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Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:32 pm

What is the best baffled sump to run on a track car and where to get from

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby bernie11a » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:52 pm

Moroso

https://h-tune.co.uk/moroso-baffled-oil ... a-1zz-2zz/


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Re: Baffled sump

Postby MilesH » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:00 pm

My opinion after many trakdays and a few races is that a 1zz doesn't need a baffled sump and that the current windage plate in the factory sump is sufficient.

But nothing wrong with belt and braces if you want to fit one.

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby lamcote » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:19 am

Miles, interesting, would you say it is safe even on AD08s and the like? Presumably you ensure the oil level is kept topped up?
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:06 am

I run r888s don't think would do rockingham without one fitted

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Alex Knight » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:02 am

bernie11a wrote:Moroso

https://h-tune.co.uk/moroso-baffled-oil ... a-1zz-2zz/


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EP sump is better quality than Moroso, if we're talking 'best': https://www.eliseparts.com/products/sho ... mp-toyota/
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:30 pm

Thanks for that have you had one

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Alex Knight » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:21 am

Yes, it's been on my car about 3 years or so.
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby moto » Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:59 pm

Hi Alex With your EP sump has the xylan coating shown any signs of deteriorating over the three years you have used it.

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:37 am

Does the sump fit 1zz and 2zz what sealant did you use

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby m1tch » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:01 am

Anyone modded a stock 1zz sump for it to become baffled?

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby shnazzle » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:20 am

Isn't the 1zz already part-baffled? Hence it's a standard item to swap onto a 2zz?
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby m1tch » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:48 pm

shnazzle wrote:Isn't the 1zz already part-baffled? Hence it's a standard item to swap onto a 2zz?


I believe that its got a windage plate unlike the 2zz one which is basically a bucket under the engine, a baffled sump will have internal trap doors which ensure that oil always sits around the oil pickup and usually a larger capacity.

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Essex2Visuvesi » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:12 pm

m1tch wrote:
shnazzle wrote:Isn't the 1zz already part-baffled? Hence it's a standard item to swap onto a 2zz?


I believe that its got a windage plate unlike the 2zz one which is basically a bucket under the engine, a baffled sump will have internal trap doors which ensure that oil always sits around the oil pickup and usually a larger capacity.


Can confirm stock 1zz oil pan has no baffles but does have a windage plate (Basically a flat plate on top of the sump)

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby shnazzle » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:14 pm

Ah, that's it. Almost right :)
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby M.R. » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:33 pm

m1tch wrote:Anyone modded a stock 1zz sump for it to become baffled?

Yeah. No pictures, but it is more or less just like moroso hinged sump. Did that 3 years ago.

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Carolyn » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:41 pm

The 1zz does have a 'baffle' under the windage tray towards the narrow end of the sump. I add another just above it. Will help save your rod bearings for an extra few milliseconds.
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Alex Knight » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:32 pm

moto wrote:Hi Alex With your EP sump has the xylan coating shown any signs of deteriorating over the three years you have used it.


Hi,

No deterioration whatsoever.

I did, however have a problem where the nappy was rubbing on the bottom of the sump (the sump has greater capacity, and therefore sits lower), and it began to wear the bottom of the sump away a bit. Luckily I caught it in time.

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Alex Knight » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:33 pm

Kev6107 wrote:Does the sump fit 1zz and 2zz what sealant did you use


Yes, it fits both.

Best sealant to use is Hondabond.
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:12 pm

Thanks Alex what tracks do you do

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Alex Knight » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:39 am

Kev6107 wrote:Thanks Alex what tracks do you do


As many as I can get to, funds permitting!

In the MR2, from memory, I've done:

Castle Coombe
Pembrey
Llandow
Angelsey
Silverstone
Snetterton
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:10 pm

Have to try to meet you at a track day sometime

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Alex Knight » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:15 am

I'm booked for Pembrey on 01/10/17 :)
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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:20 pm

Bit far for me mate

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Kev6107 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:16 pm

How was your track day alex

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Re: Baffled sump

Postby Alex Knight » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:35 pm

Good thanks chap.
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