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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: bigbear007 on February 13, 2018, 17:05

Title: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: bigbear007 on February 13, 2018, 17:05
 
Anyone removed the rear lights with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
As you can see (pic below) it wraps around the light so can it be done ?

I'm changing the left hand lens as it was recently cracked.

(http://i.imgur.com/ku6Qgrn.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ku6Qgrn)
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: shnazzle on February 13, 2018, 17:18
Nope.
Worst part of that spoiler.
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: 1979scotte on February 13, 2018, 17:22
StuC may know.
I thought Matt had worked out a way.
Only reason I don't have one is this trouble.
Best spoiler.
Good luck.
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: Topdownman on February 13, 2018, 17:23
I am sure someone (was it @StuC (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15683) ?) said it could be done by loosening the bumper at the top to give some wiggle room?
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: shnazzle on February 13, 2018, 17:30
The main reason it won't come out is because the light has a peg on the outer side. If you remove the peg it's probably still very secure but you can get the light out (maybe)
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: bigbear007 on February 13, 2018, 17:38
Quote from: Topdownman on February 13, 2018, 17:23
I am sure someone (was it @StuC (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15683) ?) said it could be done by loosening the bumper at the top to give some wiggle room?

That sounds like a plan I'll give it a go when the lens is delivered tomorrow.
The lens from the dealer was only £28 but the gasket was £38.68 !
I have heard that you can use O' ring rubber cord but I'm not sure of the size?
It's cheep enough on Amazon :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N2TK6NM/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2YO7EU37P7WB9&colid=1Z1ZD8NQ7AS5C&psc=0
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: StuC on February 13, 2018, 18:03
Quote from: 1979scotte
StuC may know.
I thought Matt had worked out a way.
Nope, Matt worked around it!! Lol.

Quote from: Topdownman on February 13, 2018, 17:23
I am sure someone (was it @StuC (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15683) ?) said it could be done by loosening the bumper at the top to give some wiggle room?

I was looking to change my rear number plate trim for the FL one. I managed to get enough wiggle room to move the lower portion of the bumper to do the swap.

I never managed to solve the Ducktail Paradox!!! :-(

The only advice to new owners would be to not adhere it to the bumper. It has enough fixings without needing the bonding as well.
Doesn't help current owners though.

One abstract thought has occurred though. Can you loosen the rear quarter enough to change the lamp?
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: bigbear007 on February 13, 2018, 18:59
Would I be able to take off the lens without taking the light fully out of place ? :-\
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: mikek on February 13, 2018, 19:24
I've done it. Remove the top bumper fittings and the fittings in the wheel arch. This should give you enough wiggle room. Just! It's very tight. Before I put the lamps back in I cut off the lugs at the side so I had more wiggle room. I then used a small self tapper where the lug was to secure it. Much easier to get out now. Still a pain if I'm honest.
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: StuC on February 13, 2018, 19:46
@mikek (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22649) perhaps you need to give a paradox masterclass at Ding Day
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: mikek on February 13, 2018, 19:49
Perhaps
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: bigbear007 on February 13, 2018, 21:13
Thank's Mikek
I'll be giving that ago tomorrow, I'll let you all know how it went.

I'm going in, I may be a while  ;)
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: shnazzle on February 14, 2018, 00:55


Quote from: mikek on February 13, 2018, 19:24
I've done it. Remove the top bumper fittings and the fittings in the wheel arch. This should give you enough wiggle room. Just! It's very tight. Before I put the lamps back in I cut off the lugs at the side so I had more wiggle room. I then used a small self tapper where the lug was to secure it. Much easier to get out now. Still a pain if I'm honest.

Actually undoing the two outermost bolts on the spoiler is easier than this and allows you to (just) squeeze the headlight out.
To be honest I now know by feel where the bolts are so it's not that bad.

10 Ratchet spanner in hand and 5 mins and the spoiler is off anyway. It's just a pain in the hoop.
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: bigbear007 on February 14, 2018, 21:22
Quote from: shnazzle on February 14, 2018, 00:55
Actually undoing the two outermost bolts on the spoiler is easier than this and allows you to (just) squeeze the headlight out.
To be honest I now know by feel where the bolts are so it's not that bad.

10 Ratchet spanner in hand and 5 mins and the spoiler is off anyway. It's just a pain in the hoop.
Mine is bonded in as well!  ::)
No time today but I'll give another go next Monday when i'm free
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: shnazzle on February 14, 2018, 21:52
Quote from: bigbear007 on February 14, 2018, 21:22
Quote from: shnazzle on February 14, 2018, 00:55
Actually undoing the two outermost bolts on the spoiler is easier than this and allows you to (just) squeeze the headlight out.
To be honest I now know by feel where the bolts are so it's not that bad.

10 Ratchet spanner in hand and 5 mins and the spoiler is off anyway. It's just a pain in the hoop.
Mine is bonded in as well!  ::)
No time today but I'll give another go next Monday when i'm free
Bonded in???? Which ape sorted that out?
Why did they think the 6(?) bolts wouldn't hold?


..good luck :)
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: StuC on February 14, 2018, 22:11
Quote from: shnazzle on February 14, 2018, 21:52Bonded in???? Which ape sorted that out?
Why did they think the 6(?) bolts wouldn't hold?
Tell me about it! It's such an unnecessary pain. [emoji853][emoji853][emoji853]
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: mikek on February 14, 2018, 22:19
Mines the same, no way it's coming off the bumper
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: shnazzle on February 15, 2018, 10:03
Genuinely no clue then on how you get access without breaking stuff. I guess you can undo most of the bumper and try to undo bolts as much as possible that way?
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: StuC on February 15, 2018, 18:59
Welcome to the paradox!!
Title: Re: rear lights removal with the duck tail TTE spoiler on?
Post by: mikek on February 15, 2018, 19:23
The best bit is you can't take the bumper off without getting the lights out!