Turbo wanna be 1zz couple of questions

Started by Nvy, November 1, 2017, 09:27

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macdool

#50
Hey guys, I've just read this whole thread and thanks for all the info. I'm going for a similar build to you guys and getting Patrick Chambers to install it for me once I get all the parts together.

I'm buying my manifold now and he said the cheaper ones don't have good flow so I'm not sure about those ones in the links you sent a while back in the thread, maybe just check it out. I'm going for the monkey wrench racing one.

I'll start a thread about my build later tonight.
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Nvy

#51
Quote from: "macdool"Hey guys, I've just read this whole thread and thanks for all the info. I'm going for a similar build to you guys and getting Patrick Chambers to install it for me once I get all the parts together.

I'm buying my manifold now and he said the cheaper ones don't have good flow so I'm not sure about those ones in the links you sent a while back in the thread, maybe just check it out. I'm going for the monkey wrench racing one.

I'll start a thread about my build later tonight.

Hey, glad we have fellow turbo wanna bes. Up to certain PSI say 15 u will not have any problems with the cast manifold that is 100 euros. If u want to go nuts u have to go tabular but they are easier to break and u would need a support bracket for your turbo. I cant justify the price of MWR one with the shipping and vat, id rather have one made locally.

macdool

#52
QuoteHey, glad we have fellow turbo wanna bes. Up to certain PSI say 15 u will not have any problems with the cast manifold that is 100 euros. If u want to go nuts u have to go tabular but they are easier to break and u would need a support bracket for your turbo. I cant justify the price of MWR one with the shipping and vat, id rather have one made locally.

I think its more about air not flowing smoothly through the cheaper ones therefore being less efficient. I didnt know there was so much to it, really interesting.

https://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/log_style_vs_equal_length_manifolds
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1979scotte

#53
The tkc manifold that monkey wrench sells isn't exactly equal length runners.
I would think it would be over £300 including shipping and taxes.
I suppose that's not too bad in comparison to other parts you may buy and it is the part to purchase first and build from.
Have you watched any mighty car mods on YouTube?
Al has done some mad turbo builds and made power just fine on log type manifolds.
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shnazzle

#54
I'd rather have the "inefficiency" of a cast manifold than the cost, relative fragility and space requirements of the tubular.
Price to power ratio just doesn't stock up on the 2.
Unless you were talking something along the lines of the blue Phoenix 900hp k20 turbo project,.. Why bother?

Can't see why that log manifold on eBay wouldn't do the job for the power levels and turbo sizes we're generally talking
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Nvy

#55
I totally agree with shnazzle and scotte, and this is what i said earlier. If you are not going some crazy PSI u cant justify the cost and headache of the tabular one. If of course u want to throw cash on the wind or ure a crazy perfectionist go for fully custom one.

P.S. With speeds above 100 km/h i feel that the steering wheel is shaking, its not wheels coz they were checked when i was replacing them. Maybe steering rack? Any ideas would be appreciated.

P.S2. My car is back from the repair shop, it feels a lot better after the throttle cable was adjusted. Now i can go sideways in every turn and it feels awesome, a small budget turbo project will be on the go and i have another nice idea that i will share with all of you guys once i cook it.

Nvy

Hey @m1tch,
A question for you, do you think BW 6758 will fit with turbokits manifold? Im planning to get one for my build and i already started collecting parts. Now im trying to figure out what turbo to use and BW EFR 6758 loooooooks tasty, also trying to find cheap price for it. As i dont want to spend more than necessary i dont want to get any knockoff parts so im going to save cash before im done with everything.

Im not sure if there will be enough space to fit this turbo as it is a bit bigger.

Cheers

P.S. @Everybody please feel free to chime in with any info or experience.
P.S.2 Manifold turned up today, i totally like it.

BahnStormer

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Nvy


BahnStormer

So like this one?


Forgive my turbo naivety, but does that mean the O2 sensors get deleted? Or do they get installed in the downpipe after the turbo?
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1979scotte

You can drill out for an o2 sensor which would be my preference for piggy back ECU or just put one in the down pipe.
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Nvy

Quote from: BahnStormer on May 22, 2018, 12:38
So like this one?


Forgive my turbo naivety, but does that mean the O2 sensors get deleted? Or do they get installed in the downpipe after the turbo?

I think there was a post somewhere answering your question but generally a wide band is installed post turbo and no o2 sensors are needed. Im not entirely sure how everything works yet but have the books on my kindle to read. I have seen applications where some sensors are hooked up to monitor every cylinder but i have no idea why and in which case we need them. With that cast manifold we cannot have any sensors anyways.

You can read dans thread he had problems setting up his MAP but he figured it out at the end. I think the other question about o2 and wide band was in m1tch's long term build.

dan944

I have wideband and O2 post turbo with both O2 sensors wired into one and a resistor to delete the heater circuit fault.
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dan944

Should have mentioned I'm on piggy back. Standalone you can just run wideband.
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1979scotte

You can tap the manifold to take o2 sensors just like the sp240 kit.
The best way to run with a piggyback.
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