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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Steve Green on April 12, 2011, 09:53

Title: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Steve Green on April 12, 2011, 09:53
The front fog lights on my 2003 facefift are corroding inside. They seem to let in water!
Is this normal, can you get at them by removing the wheel arch liners?
Ebay seems to say that the same fog lamps are used on a Prius. Are there any other alternatives?

Any hints or work-arounds please guys.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: deadmau5 on May 5, 2011, 17:07
I'd be interested in this as well. I've searched fog light mould and mold and there's nothing.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Wabbitkilla on May 5, 2011, 19:25
I have recently ordered some of those ebay ones around £38 ... i'll let you know if they are good.

The easiest way to replace them is to remove the bumper, not a big job really.
You will need bulbs too though as they sieze in place normally.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: deadmau5 on May 5, 2011, 21:33
What is the title of those lights on ebay? I've had a search for MR2 fog lights but didn't find anything like that.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Wabbitkilla on May 5, 2011, 21:59
Quote from: "deadmau5"What is the title of those lights on ebay? I've had a search for MR2 fog lights but didn't find anything like that.

 m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 427wt_1130 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380327014079&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1427wt_1130) m
and
 m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 427wt_1130 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380327014071&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1427wt_1130) m

Be warned though I ordered them on the 20th and haven't seen them yet!
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Wabbitkilla on May 22, 2011, 12:49
Ok update time...

I had a little problem with delivery which the supplier didn't bother contacting me about.
When I chased him up he said the delivery driver had problems finding the building (bear in mind I work in a big glass building with a 20ft O2 on the front ... hard to miss really).

However, he posted them out next day delivery via ParcelFarce.
They arrived next day and I fitted them yesterday.

These are definitely the right ones, direct replacements for the original Toyota items and fit dead easy!
Be warned though, the bulbs tend to stick in them, or the corrosion welds them in place so best to get fresh bulbs while you're at it.
The bulbs are HB4/9006 types, about £10 each at online suppliers or over £15 each at Halfrauds.

You do need to take the front bumper off, best do it with a friend, two pairs of hands are better than one ... but you can do it on your own.
You need to squeeze the tabs in on the adjusters, and then gently bend the bumper catch away from the housing and then they just pop out, noo screws at all   s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Steve Green on May 22, 2011, 16:52
Useful info, thanks.
Looks like I will be spending money and asking for some help.
Title: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: bigwillcv36 on May 25, 2011, 10:55
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Ok update time...

I had a little problem with delivery which the supplier didn't bother contacting me about.
When I chased him up he said the delivery driver had problems finding the building (bear in mind I work in a big glass building with a 20ft O2 on the front ... hard to miss really).

However, he posted them out next day delivery via ParcelFarce.
They arrived next day and I fitted them yesterday.

These are definitely the right ones, direct replacements for the original Toyota items and fit dead easy!
Be warned though, the bulbs tend to stick in them, or the corrosion welds them in place so best to get fresh bulbs while you're at it.
The bulbs are HB4/9006 types, about £10 each at online suppliers or over £15 each at Halfrauds.

You do need to take the front bumper off, best do it with a friend, two pairs of hands are better than one ... but you can do it on your own.
You need to squeeze the tabs in on the adjusters, and then gently bend the bumper catch away from the housing and then they just pop out, noo screws at all   s:D :D s:D

I just had my light delivered... Cheers for the heads up on the eBay link.

I don't suppose you could post up some pics of the bumper removal part could you? I've looked in the How To section and couldn't find anything and I'd like a little guidance before I start pulling my car apart!   s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Anonymous on May 25, 2011, 14:28
I just replaced one of these foglights on my MR2 without removing the bumper. Just undid three screws holding the plastic undertray in place beneath the foglight - note that this doesn't come off completely as its part of the wheel arch lining, however, I was able to push it out of the way enough to get access inside to the foglight.

Getting the old one out is a bit tricky as it's not obvious how its secured. I started by taking the connector off the lightbulb fitting, then tried a mirror and torch to see how it was fixed. No screws involved, the two posts either side of the lamp simply push into sockets in the housing in the bumper with plastic clips moulded in place which ideally need to be pushed back - easy if you do take the bumper off I would imagine, but I didn't. Oh and there's an adjuster too (adjusts angle of the fog light beam) which I unscrewed as far as it would go then twisted with a pair of pliers until it broke off (there's a new one on the replacement) - not convinced it was necessary to do this but as I was working with no information so I removed it any way.

Eventually levered out the light from the front with a screwdriver using a cloth to protect the bumper - a little bit of leverage first one side then the other and out it popped.

Bulb fitting just twists out using pliers and just as easy to fit in new lamp. Old lamp was cracked and misted but bulb was fine so re-used.

New lamp just pushed into place, re-attached wire (tested it to make sure it worked) then screwed tray back up. Job done, in all about 45 mins.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Barney Bear on July 21, 2011, 15:36
Thanks Guys
just ordered a pair as the other one is bound to go a week or so after lol   s:D :D s:D  

and as for the bumber removal your right would be easier with a mate helping but I did thia a while ago when I replaced the headlights
trust me if I can do it anyone can only thing I did wrong at first was to take out all the bolts from the L shape plastic at the front in the middle and there was no need
from memory think just the 1 each end works fine
also had a very large offcut of carpet as a bonus to your knees and to stop any  damaged to paint work once off

thanks again

just incase anyone doesn't want to go via e-bay there web site is  w www.crashrepairparts.com (http://www.crashrepairparts.com) w  much easier to find

part number is A3531L and A3531R
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Barney Bear on July 22, 2011, 09:35
Fantastic service

lights arrived 10 mins ago

now for the hard bit  bet that won't be 10 mins   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Well had to take the bumper off but having already done this once before seem to go a lot smoother a second time, doesn't seem to be any time saving ideas on this one
it has to come off only tip I can add the two lamp holders do indeed get stuck with the corosion but I found a large spanner that fits the hole length of the fitting and a gentle rocking movement from left to right and  the a lift with a screwdriver on each tag/locking lug  and they do come off in one piece with no damage then a good clean to get rid of the ali dust and your good to go

  s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: wotugonado on July 15, 2012, 22:26
bookmarked for future reference
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2013, 12:53
Would these work?

 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Prius- ... 4d09c561b8 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Prius-2006-2009-Front-Fog-Light-Drivers-Off-Side-/330876412344?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3APrius&hash=item4d09c561b8) m

apologies for the first post, i'm trying to help a friend out and change out her dead front fogs with replacements but I can't seem to find concrete information as to which fogs will fit directly and the bulb type.

Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: trevsmr2 on March 13, 2013, 18:35
Must have been written just for you

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Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: kentsmudger on March 14, 2013, 01:29
As per the year in the title of the thread, does anyone know if these lights are any good for PRE facelift fogs?
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: trevsmr2 on March 14, 2013, 04:52
Quote from: "kentsmudger"As per the year in the title of the thread, does anyone know if these lights are any good for PRE facelift fogs?

I didn't think Pre-facelift had fog-lights ??
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: andyroo104 on March 14, 2013, 05:32
Quote from: "trevsmr2"
Quote from: "kentsmudger"As per the year in the title of the thread, does anyone know if these lights are any good for PRE facelift fogs?

I didn't think Pre-facelift had fog-lights ??
They were fitted to imports, Mrs.
Andy.

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Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Wabbitkilla on March 14, 2013, 05:52
I suppose the important question is, "are they the right size and shape for the pre-facelift?". The only way of knowing is finding out their dimensions and checking against the originals. I haven't seen how the originals are held in place, Spit might be able to offer some advice with that as he has looked for years at replacements. They're a bit of an odd size from memory.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2013, 08:06
Quote from: "kentsmudger"As per the year in the title of the thread, does anyone know if these lights are any good for PRE facelift fogs?

I noticed the year on the title yet the question was "The front fog lights on my 2003 facefift are corroding inside. They seem to let in water!", maybe that's where the confusion starts   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:   If these other lights are suitable it would be helpful for anyone else using them.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: kentsmudger on March 14, 2013, 21:15
I have answered my own question, now I have looked at the fog-lamp surrounds I have - The import lamps need 4 tabs, evenly spaced, so these are a no-go

The search continues!
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: philsparks on September 13, 2020, 14:19
Hi - first post here, and I know it's to a very old thread.  But I just went the process of replacing the lights in my mk3.  Took a few pictures which might be helpful if anyone is doing the same.  Here goes:
(https://i.imgur.com/0W3tkz7h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/x121PTsh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GYpHjLyh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7h2LzVfh.jpg)

Assuming the images work you can see that once the lights are out there are 3 places they're held in.  There's a circular cylinder on either side (around 1cm long and 1cm diameter) and a hole at the back that the adjuster pokes through.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: philsparks on September 13, 2020, 14:32
I didn't remove the bumper, I just jacked up the front of the car and unbolted the plastic cover (it's an extension of the wheelarch liner), about 4 bolt/screws came out.  I squeezed the plastic "ears" on the back of the adjuster (the small thing on the back of adjuster bolt, only a few mms diameter) and pushed this through the little hole in the bumper.

The hard bit is getting the little cylinders out of the two holes.  You can see from the pictures above that one of them has a sort of "catch" in front of it, it's possible to get a screwdriver under this catch from behind the bumper and lever it out while pushing the light out.  Alternatively if you know where you're aiming you can do the same with a screwdriver between the light and bumper from the front. 

The other side doesn't have this catch and frankly is a pain.  I managed to get a little screwdriver between the cylinder and bumper from behind the bumper but its awkward.  If I had a plastic or wooden stick it might be possible from the front.

TBH if you have a mate to help it's probably a lot easier with the bumper off!

Hope this helps a bit.
Phil
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: simpsonaldinho on October 16, 2023, 20:14
Ressurecting an old topic yet again, but wanted to check as understandably all the old eBay links in this thread have expired.

Are these the ones? Based on the listing stating MR2 and this thread mentioning they are same as Prius, just thought i'd check as under £15 for the pair seems too good to be true...


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314609339986?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230811123856%26meid%3D5670b2fb62b84f33be66465796512812%26pid%3D101770%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D314609339986%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p4375194.c101770.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3A39e5eb6618b0a54e1cc0d81dffffe976%7Cpageci%3Ab8d252da-6c57-11ee-aec3-1659d0e1297d%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: Gaz mr-s on October 17, 2023, 09:44
Yep, same topic on here just a few days ago....the listing you found is even cheaper.
Title: Re: Front Fog lights 2000>>
Post by: minimike on October 22, 2023, 15:00
Ali express, exact same as eBay fogs £14 per pair delivered last time I ordered them.