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The Academy => Reference => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 22, 2011, 09:10

Title: How SMT works
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2011, 09:10
 m http://www.ariclim.com/files/mr2spyder/SMT.pdf (http://www.ariclim.com/files/mr2spyder/SMT.pdf) m
I looked all over for info when I bought my SMT.
This link was pointed out to me yesterday. Thought it might be useful.
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: Steve Green on September 22, 2011, 09:28
Excellent document find. One day it will prove very useful.
I suggest it is copied to every SMT owners hard drives.

Good work.
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: markiii on September 22, 2011, 09:53
or moved to teh library?
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: Steve Green on September 22, 2011, 11:08
Quote from: "markiii"or moved to the library?

Good idea, but would the Mods allow that as its a Toyota original document.

I am not clear on this policy, most Toyota dealers would not have a clue how SMT works, and if you had a problem they would be pleased to see a copy of D!cks find and not immediately complain about breach of copyright.
The time will come when these documents will be out of print from Toyota, if they have not already been de-listed.

I am a member of a BL classic car forum, I have many relevant manuals and books, presumably they are still copyright, but without copies of the relevant pages, some classic cars would end up on the scrapheap.

Mk3 MR2's are a long way from becoming classics but without clubs retaining copies of the relevant documentation, the future existence of the cars is jeapordised.

Under current law there is an exemption of 'Fair use'. Since the publication on this website is for the enthusiast, does not 'fair use' apply, much as it does where you might take a book out from a library, or a lecturer reference chapters in a book for the benefit of his students.
If the publication is used for profit by a commercial organisation, surely then it is that organisations duty to obey the laws of the land and use only commercially available documentation.
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: markiii on September 22, 2011, 11:52
we are linking to someone else not hosting it ourselves, should be fine

certainly no worse than it being on this thread
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: Steve Green on September 22, 2011, 12:08
Quote from: "markiii"we are linking to someone else not hosting it ourselves, should be fine

certainly no worse than it being on this thread

Links are vulnerable and depend on others to keep paying for hosting the info and retaining it in the same folder etc etc. They are far from permanent or secure.

Does not the club have an implicit responsibility to the members to ensure that such documentation is retained for the benefit of the members?
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: markiii on September 22, 2011, 12:20
the file is an extract from the BGB, hosting that is going to get someone sued
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: Cap on September 22, 2011, 12:48
If you go to
 w www.autoshop101.com (http://www.autoshop101.com) w
You will find Toyota Documents used to teach in a free website..  

I think the use and Hosting of Copyrighted Material should be left up to the Decision of the Moderators..  

Cap
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: markiii on September 22, 2011, 13:00
I think it should be left to the comittee as its them in the firing line
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: Anonymous on September 22, 2011, 19:27
Yep been posted before here found using smt in the search box:

 l viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31025&hilit (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31025&hilit) l

 l viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31205&hilit=+smt (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31205&hilit=+smt) l

 l viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31643&hilit=+smt (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31643&hilit=+smt) l

 l viewtopic.php?f=25&t=32513&hilit=+smt (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=32513&hilit=+smt) l
Title: Re: How SMT works
Post by: Steve Green on September 22, 2011, 19:46
Quote from: "markiii"I think it should be left to the comittee as its them in the firing line

Agreed, but it does not hurt to review the situation periodically.