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Title: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: alfajerry on January 16, 2012, 15:03
It seems from this thread

 l viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15371 (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15371) l

that later cars beeper may be more hidden than earlier ones.
I decided to silence mine today and on my 2006 car there is no black cylinder external to the clocks, the beeper speaker is inside the clock assembly.
It's still quite easy to get to.
My wife insisted that I didn't silence it completely so I stuck a piece of sellotape over it which made it too quiet, but putting a couple of pinholes in the sellotape has given her enough volume without it driving me mental.

Seven screws to undo here:
(http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/47724/2025827980081221314S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2025827980081221314AsYgJG)

Takes you to here:
(http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/47505/2130918530081221314S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2130918530081221314jkClai)

The speaker is the black circular item top right:
(http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/49004/2930391220081221314S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2930391220081221314ZvnWAe)

Hope this helps someone in the future.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: onion86 on January 16, 2012, 15:35
Thanks for the pics, there was something on spyderchat with pictures etc. but handy to have it here too. Will be following this once I stop working on the old car and have a bit of time.

Quote from: "alfajerry"It seems from this thread that later cars beeper may be more hidden than earlier ones.
From what I have seen before I think the speaker was in the place that yours is on all of the facelifts (i.e. you have to unscrew the 7 screws and take clocks apart), the stavros fella with the TF300 may have misunderstood.

Quote from: "alfajerry"My wife insisted that I didn't silence it completely do I stuck a piece of sellotape over it which made it too quiet, but putting a couple of pinholes in the sellotape has given her enough volume without it driving me mental.
How quiet is too quiet, inaudible? I was thinking of using the blu-tac but that may be similar to sellotape without pinholes, I don't want to disable it completely because after driving a 5-speed for 3.5 years I'm bound to put it in reverse at some point, especially with the short shifter it seems a lot closer to when I first drove it!

What were the noise differences in terms of a percentage of original loudness between the sellotape and sellotape + pinholes?
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: alfajerry on January 16, 2012, 15:59
One layer of Sellotape made it almost inaudible.
With two pinholes it's something like 30/40% of original.
As long as you use something 'reversible' you can experiment.

Anyone know if I should have a bulb in that empty holder, fourth from left in first photo?
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: onion86 on January 16, 2012, 16:17
Quote from: "alfajerry"Anyone know if I should have a bulb in that empty holder, fourth from left in first photo?
I'd say no as there's nothing there on your dials. From an educated guess it might be for SMT shift lights, I'll see if I can find a pic.
*EDIT* found a pic (number 3): http://www.toyota.co.uk/bv/bwaftersales/downloads/brief/MR2.pdf#page=9
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: alfajerry on January 16, 2012, 16:27
Thanks Stu.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: rory57 on March 24, 2012, 18:07
Thank you for posting this Stu: no bleeps at last - bliss.  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
Title: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: bigwillcv36 on March 24, 2012, 18:56
I kind of like the beeping  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: HodJay on March 25, 2012, 20:37
Ahhhhhhh I JUST wrote a thread and mentioned how desperately I want to stop all the bleeping! I just hope that one day I  dare to take it apart!
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: onion86 on March 25, 2012, 20:58
Did this today at last after my 1st trip out in the new car with the roof down  s:D :D s:D  I went for the sellotape and 2 pin holes. I made sure I kept some sound as I'll no doubt end up leaving the lights on otherwise!
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 4, 2012, 19:44
I need to do this on my car which is a 2005 model so the presumably the speaker will be inside the clocks as mentioned. I can't seem to open the images at the start of the thread so can anyone tell me how the clocks come apart please? I've had them out today and took the screws out that hold the rear plastic cover on but still couldn't see the speaker. Does the printed circuit board just pull off so you can get to the other side of it? I didn't want to force anything and risk doing any damage so I just ended up putting it all back together for now  s:( :( s:(
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: trevsmr2 on October 5, 2012, 07:50
Quote from: "SteveMK3"I need to do this on my car which is a 2005 model so the presumably the speaker will be inside the clocks as mentioned. I can't seem to open the images at the start of the thread so can anyone tell me how the clocks come apart please? I've had them out today and took the screws out that hold the rear plastic cover on but still couldn't see the speaker. Does the printed circuit board just pull off so you can get to the other side of it? I didn't want to force anything and risk doing any damage so I just ended up putting it all back together for now  s:( :( s:(
(on my 2000 model)

After removing the white cover ,the circuit board justs pulls off

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n281/blz-8027/DSCF2530.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n281/blz-8027/DSCF2532.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n281/blz-8027/DSCF2533.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n281/blz-8027/mk3%20mr2/DSCF2527.jpg)

(this is also how you change import dials to UK ,and keep the original mileometer readings )
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 5, 2012, 16:53
Thanks for that Trev that's really helpull:) I presume the speaker is the Black circle in the top left in the last picture?
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: trevsmr2 on October 5, 2012, 17:59
Quote from: "SteveMK3"I presume the speaker is the Black circle in the top left in the last picture?
as far as im aware ,yes
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 5, 2012, 18:05
Quote from: "trevsmr2"
Quote from: "SteveMK3"I presume the speaker is the Black circle in the top left in the last picture?
as far as I'm aware ,yes

Ok cheers
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: onion86 on October 5, 2012, 18:41
Quote from: "trevsmr2"
Quote from: "SteveMK3"I presume the speaker is the Black circle in the top left in the last picture?
as far as I'm aware ,yes
Yes it is
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 5, 2012, 20:04
Thanks Stu  s:) :) s:)   I don't suppose you know if it can be removed without damaging the board do you,or can I only mask it with tape or blue tac to muffle the noise like others have done?
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: onion86 on October 5, 2012, 21:18
Well it's the same beeper for if you leave the lights on, don't have your seatbelt on, etc. so I wouldn't kill it completely, go for one of those options. If you do want to remove it completely I would assume poking it with something would do less damage than trying to remove it.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 5, 2012, 21:32
You might be right there  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Title: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: Pavett1990 on October 5, 2012, 22:03
The beeps are to tell you that your in reverse, left your lights on, left keys in ignition?
I don't understand why you'd want to stop the beeping?


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Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: JudoKilli on October 5, 2012, 22:29
Quote from: "Pavett1990"The beeps are to tell you that your in reverse, left your lights on, left keys in ignition?
I don't understand why you'd want to stop the beeping?


Cos its f*cking annoying!
Title: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: Pavett1990 on October 5, 2012, 22:50
Well it's literally 20 seconds while you get out of car? Or 20 seconds when you reverse out of space or drive? Seems a lot of work for something that's rarely used? In my opinion


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Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: alfajerry on October 6, 2012, 08:32
It's not much work, and the car bleeps for so many things it's bloody irritating.
The reverse bleep in particular, because it is an unnecessary distraction while manoevring, and people think you're driving a lorry as it's easily audible to passers-by when the roof is down. A couple of initial bleeps to warn you would have been enough.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 6, 2012, 13:00
Quote from: "JudoKilli"
Quote from: "Pavett1990"The beeps are to tell you that your in reverse, left your lights on, left keys in ignition?
I don't understand why you'd want to stop the beeping?


Cos its f*cking annoying!

Exactly!  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 6, 2012, 13:03
Quote from: "alfajerry"It's not much work, and the car bleeps for so many things it's bloody irritating.
The reverse bleep in particular, because it is an unnecessary distraction while manoevring, and people think you're driving a lorry as it's easily audible to passers-by when the roof is down. A couple of initial bleeps to warn you would have been enough.

I totally agree Jerry,apart from being annoying it is definitely a distraction when you're reversing,one or two beeps is all that was needed....
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: Anonymous on October 6, 2012, 13:11
You can wire in a switch, which i have done, that allows you to turn off the beeping when reversing. This still gives you the initial warning when going into reverse but allows you to cancel it whilst reversing and simply switch it back on when you go into first gear.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: SteveMK3 on October 6, 2012, 19:11
I had another go at this today,I took the binnacle apart again and got the PCB off this time. I filled the hole in the centre of the speaker with a little Black silicone and after letting it dry put it all back together. The difference is massive! It's lovely and quiet now but at the same time can still be heard,it's just a lot more subtle IMHO so I'm very happy with the results  s:D :D s:D   Thanks for all the replies and advice guys.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: rudycob1 on October 18, 2012, 21:55
Hi. M R 2 said that he wired a switch on this. Can I have some advise as to we're and how you wired this up. Which wire?
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2012, 14:26
Hi Rudy, i removed the coin holder, drilled through the back of it and added a switch. I found the wiring details on spyderchat iirc. Basically you take off the instrument binnacle, locate the correct wire, cut it then wire the cut ends to the switch. 10 min job, once you identify the wire.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: Markb on October 19, 2012, 22:41
I don't mind the reverse beeping......out of the 4 cars i have here the MR2 is the only one with the reverse in the wrong place lol.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: rallycross2 on April 21, 2014, 17:57
for such a small car this reverse beeping is maddening!
how long does it take to do this mod ?
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: paulfjr on April 23, 2014, 14:32
I would like to stop the beeps on reversing - but not sure if it is just me but I cannot see the photos. Does this happen to everyone?? Is there another link somewhere where the photos are? Thanks
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: alfajerry on April 23, 2014, 15:28
Sorry about that Paul, the ones in my original post were hosted somewhere no longer active and I no longer have the car or the photos.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: trevsmr2 on April 23, 2014, 16:50
Quote from: "paulfjr"I would like to stop the beeps on reversing - but not sure if it is just me but I cannot see the photos. Does this happen to everyone?? Is there another link somewhere where the photos are? Thanks
Quote from: "alfajerry"Sorry about that Paul, the ones in my original post were hosted somewhere no longer active and I no longer have the car or the photos.

have  a look at my reply in the thread
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: Mike G on April 26, 2014, 06:56
To silence the reversing beep Its a white wire you snip, about 3 in from the right on the top right multiplug of the three going into the rear of the dash if viewed from the front
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: robincm on April 23, 2016, 16:33
Just put some sellotape over the sounder on my mk3, all in it took me about 20 mins including reading up on here how to do it, and cleaning the instrument panel clear plastic. If I had to do it again I could probably do it in about five. The most scary thing is that you're pulling some sensitive electrical guts out of the vehicle, and I was slightly worried about it not working when I put it all back, but it was fine.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: gazza1286 on April 23, 2016, 17:05
robincm (and anyone considering this method)

Opening up the actual binnacle is not for the faint hearted and doesn't need to be done. There's two options which are described on this link for which the assembly isn't opened :-

 l viewtopic.php?f=31&t=54025 (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=54025) l

As previously mentioned the beeper is a necessary safety feature and shouldn't be (totally) disabled. I wouldn't be happy with muffling it either.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: robincm on April 23, 2016, 20:17
In my case, I have just finished fitting reverse parking sensors, which also beep when reverse gear is engaged, so making the built-in "you are in reverse gear" noise quieter was necessary.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: dgreaves on April 25, 2016, 23:40
maybe I am missing something on this thread but is it possible to isolate the reverse beep only leaving the lights and door etc warnings intact , is there a switch on reverse gear that can be isolated ?  excuse my ignorance but I am an old person ( 72)  appreciate any advice as I also want to fit reverse sensors.

Dave Greaves
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: gazza1286 on April 26, 2016, 10:36
The thread only relates to the reverse beep. All other warning tones are unaffected.(or more precisely the alternative solution I suggested above has no effect on the other tones).
If you intend fitting reverse sensors check when they give a activation tone. On mine there is a couple of seconds delay. So you may not be able to totally rely on this if considering deactivating the stock reverse beep.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: M.R. on April 27, 2016, 19:36
Any downsides when completely removing beeper? Already taped beeper and it still annoys me.
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: ihs61 on November 24, 2019, 10:15
Hi
I have a 2005 car that used to bleeb, yes it is annoying but prevented me from reversing into a car at a set of lights so I put up with it
However I changed the clocks to a set from Germany as the speedo registers kilometres (I have the car in France) With these clocks I don't have the bleep anymore, is this because they might have come out of a pre-facelift car ?
If this is the case, can I fit my speaker from my original clocks ?
thanks Ian
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: Petrus on November 24, 2019, 11:17
Quote from: ihs61 on November 24, 2019, 10:15With these clocks I don't have the bleep anymore, is this because they might have come out of a pre-facelift car ?
 

My continental PFL beeps...
Title: Re: How to stop the beeps on a late model MR2
Post by: 105e on November 24, 2019, 12:02
Quote from: ihs61 on November 24, 2019, 10:15Hi
I have a 2005 car that used to bleeb, yes it is annoying but prevented me from reversing into a car at a set of lights so I put up with it
 

Me too, Hated the bleeping at first, but did once prevent what could have been a very red face, so now i like it..