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The Workshop => Appearance Related => Topic started by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 09:28

Title: New Aftermarket rear lights.
Post by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 09:28
I have been wanting to produce some for a while now.  I have got hold of a set of DAMD light clusters which I have already taken moulds of.

(http://i15.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/25/d5/12_2.JPG)

I intend to use the afterburner style lights as used in Rogue Systems MK2 conversion.

There is a combination that will allow these to be road legal and they are 'E' marked

(http://www.roguesystems.co.uk/images/299/05.jpg)

Instead of a fibre glass wing connecting the two lights we have a twin aluminium GT style wing that is purpose built to fit.

(http://www.gt-international.com/MR2ROC/damd.JPG)

I am sure that we can do a better price than DAMD (although this is a different design) which is £700 and £1000 by the time taxs and shipping is paid for.  I am hoping for a retail price of between £250 and £300.

Would there be any interest in these?

I am working alongside supastylin.com who have arranged some recent GB's for us and a specialist FG manufacturer.  I shall have some prototype photos soon.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 09:36
That's a great idea mate, I think they will look awesome   s8) 8) s8)     s8) 8) s8)  , I could be very temped to buy, especially a that price. Hope to see the design stages and some pic's
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 09:38
I am also proposing a second version that would be used independently like the original clusters.  There would be no wing and the shape would be shaved to approximatly the same as stock.

The lights would again use the after burner style and would be made of FG.  The shell could be colour coded to the vehicle.

If anyone knows of a company that can produce ABS/Polyeuethane moulds and samples than I'd be grateful for their details, as i'd prefer to use it over FG.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 09:38
Just a quick question, will you plan to make them the same shape as the Stock ones? or will they be flush, or will we have to by the spoiler to join in all up?
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 09:43
Version 1 will have a spoiler to join it up
Version 2 will be the shape of a stock cluster

Both will be easy bolt in replacements
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Post by: dieamond on November 2, 2005, 10:02
I'm interested, without spoiler support of course
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Post by: markiii on November 2, 2005, 10:07
Adam,

I'd be interested in teh spoilerless version, could this be done out of a very dark perspex though? imagin the DAMND look Sean has, but with teh afterburner lights. I gyou get what I mean
Title: Re: New Aftermarket rear lights.
Post by: Tem on November 2, 2005, 11:25
Quote from: "Jap GT300"Would there be any interest in these?

Yes!

Depends from the outcome and price of course, but I've been meaning to replace my lights with the DAMD stuff anyway. I wouldn't mind a cheaper option  s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 13:37
Quote from: "markiii"Adam,

I'd be interested in the spoilerless version, could this be done out of a very dark perspex though? imagin the DAMND look Sean has, but with the afterburner lights. I gyou get what I mean

Do you know anyone that works in Perspex?  All large companies have there own machines for their own designs, I am finding it difficult to locate someone that would create moulds and produce the item in anything other than FG.

I would prefer a perspex or ABS finish.
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Post by: xdesign on November 2, 2005, 13:42
I would be interested too! The spoilerless version.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 15:55
Adam, despite the fact that I shouldn't be spending any more money on the outside of my car, you know I'll take a spoilerless set!  s:D :D s:D
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 16:50
I am going to push the production of these seeing as there is a good response from just the UK.  

Version 1 could be ready for production very soon, but Version 2 (the one I think will look best) will take a little longer.  Especially as I want an ABS structure.

Can anybody photo shop an example of what i've described?
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 16:52
I'd be interested for certain, dependent on final cost.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 16:53
Quote from: "Jap GT300"Can anybody photo shop an example of what i've described?

I'll give it a go. No guarantee on quality, though.  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: MR-S Turbo on November 2, 2005, 18:36
I would be interested in something like this.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 19:48
Right, here are some mock-ups (not sure how close they are to Adam's interpretation though).

Type 1 (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights2.jpg)
Type 2 (as Type 1, but with gaps filled in) (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights.jpg)


I like 'em, but only if the two lights are the same size (which I'm sure they will be, but aren't on the Rogue lights). Looks pretty good when filled in, too.
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Post by: Bongo on November 2, 2005, 20:09
I prefer the lights from the DAMD unit, ie coloured and not silver on the outside.

Is it just me?
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Post by: dieamond on November 2, 2005, 20:10
nice
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 20:28
I think there Awesome, imagine that on a black '2   s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: markiii on November 2, 2005, 20:47
Quote from: "Ekona"Right, here are some mock-ups (not sure how close they are to Adam's interpretation though).

Type 1 (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights2.jpg)
Type 2 (as Type 1, but with gaps filled in) (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights.jpg)


I like 'em, but only if the two lights are the same size (which I'm sure they will be, but aren't on the Rogue lights). Looks pretty good when filled in, too.

ok see if you can do black perspex like teh damd, but with teh afterburner lights?
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 20:52
That might be tricky... I actually gave up trying to do them and got a mate to do it instead!  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

I'll give it a go thoughm and if I fail I'll ask around again.
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 21:34
Thats great Dan.  The first picture is exactly how I envisage the version 2 to look.

I can use any selection of lights from this supplier

 m http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/SVCMORELIGHTS.HTM (http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/SVCMORELIGHTS.HTM) m

Personally though I do prefer the afterburners
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 2, 2005, 21:36
BTW.  I think Rogue uses the same size lights but they appear smaller because of the angle of the unit and camera
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 21:38
Quite possibly. Taking a second look at the photo you supplied, you could well be right.
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Post by: Tem on November 2, 2005, 21:53
Quote from: "dieamond"I'm interested, without spoiler support of course

Please change your avatar to 80px wide or smaller  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 21:56
Quote from: "Tem"
Quote from: "dieamond"I'm interested, without spoiler support of course

Please change your avatar to 80px wide or smaller  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

/me hugs FF and right click-->block images  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Liz on November 2, 2005, 22:36
Just when I said that I would not buy anything else for my car - these come along - I liiiiiikkkkeee!!!  Damn you! (no pun intended)

Loving the look with the gaps filled in...time to totally debadge the rear and really confuse people!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 2, 2005, 22:42
yip, awesome, id be very interested too, dependant on cost and sweet talking the better half!
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Post by: heathstimpson on November 3, 2005, 07:00
I really like the look with the gaps filled in too; stop tempting me to spend at this time of year  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 3, 2005, 07:13
Any good, Mark? (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights3.jpg)

I know it's not exact, but the idea is still there.
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 3, 2005, 08:41
Thats an intresting concept in it's self.

There's a moulded colour coded section holding the rear lights with a tinted perspex cover.  Pretty much how front lights are put together.  I really like that!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 3, 2005, 10:17
does this mean that we could have the option to take the cover off and have:
http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights2.jpg

but then if we wanted we could put the cover on and have this:
http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights3.jpg

? ? ?
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Post by: Anonymous on November 3, 2005, 10:52
Quote from: "Ekona"Right, here are some mock-ups (not sure how close they are to Adam's interpretation though).

Type 1 (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights2.jpg)
Type 2 (as Type 1, but with gaps filled in) (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights.jpg)


I like 'em, but only if the two lights are the same size (which I'm sure they will be, but aren't on the Rogue lights). Looks pretty good when filled in, too.
I really like the look of these!  Obviously the filled in look better but I guess that would be more difficult to do
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Post by: roger on November 3, 2005, 11:53
Quote from: "IHateJam"I really like the look of these!  Obviously the filled in look better but I guess that would be more difficult to do

If they are filled in IMO they need to be a bit lower. Not too difficult, just have to have a whole new bumper assembly.   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 3, 2005, 12:52
The lights without the cover look excellent, damn you for not doing these a couple of years ago, i would of definatly had some.  s:x :x s:x
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Post by: Anonymous on November 4, 2005, 00:23
Adam, this is just a thought. Is it possible to do up a GT300 version, with a spoiler attached to the rear lights, wide enough for the extended width of the GT300 spyder? I won't mind paying extra for it though I have no idea how it can be done.
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 4, 2005, 08:13
Quote from: "simontan75"Adam, this is just a thought. Is it possible to do up a GT300 version, with a spoiler attached to the rear lights, wide enough for the extended width of the GT300 spyder? I won't mind paying extra for it though I have no idea how it can be done.

The width between the rear lights is going to stay the same though   s:? :? s:?  

The GT300 is wider in the arches by 5 inches each side, so it won't affect this setup.
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Post by: philster_d on November 4, 2005, 10:30
I had the rev 6 lights front and back on my tubby.

They do look great on a black car.

Im interested to see how these come together.

Good luck,
Philster.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 4, 2005, 17:55
interested in type 2
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Post by: Anonymous on November 4, 2005, 18:01
I would definetly buy a set if these get produced.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 4, 2005, 18:18
I could be interested in a set of these Adam plus I know of a firm who might be able to do the ABS option you want. I'll get their details asap but they're up in County Durham somewhere I think, would that be a problem? They make ABS moulds for lights and wheel arches etc on Westfields which is how I know about them plus I've dealt the with owner in the past and he was really helpfull.
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Post by: Jap GT300 on November 4, 2005, 19:15
The location isn't a problem as long as he can give a rough quote from photos.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2005, 10:28
Adam, how's the project going? Are you in the production stage yet?
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Post by: Rowland on November 13, 2005, 09:49
An interesting thread and hats off to Adam for taking the plunge and trying something quite radical with the mk3 rear clusters.
I must admit on screen I prefer the look of the lights with the cover rather than without.

i.e  m http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights3.jpg (http://www.pixelcult.co.uk/sexylights3.jpg) m  

I think going on previous experience with LED rear lights on the mk2, LED aftermarket rear lights honestly need the accompaniment of other aftermarket styling aids such as a mild to medium bodykit to look at home.

Interestingly enough I happened to be at Roguesystems a few weeks back and it would appear that the boys there have been working pretty hard on a similar concept using the same components.
From what I could see the prototypes looked near completion and had a visual element of Skyline'ness about them.

I'll be interested to see how things progress and look forward to seeing some black mk3's Photoshopped with those rear lights!"



  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2005, 19:00
Sorry about the delay Adam but I totally forgot about this! Here is the link for the company who I said might be able to help:

 m http://www.esp-plastics.co.uk (http://www.esp-plastics.co.uk) m

The guy to speak to is Nick, he is the boss. The bike powered Westfield pictured on the site is his own car so at least he's a car enthustiast which always helps!
Title: New Aftermarket rear lights.
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2005, 22:31
I will be following this project with great interest!  I would want version 2 to fit under my TRD spoiler.
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Post by: Jap GT300 on December 12, 2005, 10:38
Cheers Steve.

I'll get on with this project in January.  I'm going to be really busy right up until christmas.

Adam
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Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2005, 17:14
i'd be interested in this, if it can look EXACTLY like the damd ones, with the FG spoiler. why are you thinking a aluminium spoiler? why not use the same style lights too? they look better than the afterburner ones (or could that be an option for the buyer to choose?)
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Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2005, 09:40
both the rogue lights and the other style of lights are all available from my usual supplier Adam.  There are various combinations of lights and surrounds.

 m http://www.s-v-c.co.uk (http://www.s-v-c.co.uk) m

alternativly I have also used a couple of other suppliers if yuo struggle to find the sizes/styles you want  


hope that helps Adam?
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Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2006, 01:34
anything happening with this?

i'd prefer it without a spoiler thinking about it. i take it you're not having a spoiler connecting them? so can i just have the lights (with damd clusters, not the afterburner ones)?
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Post by: romoby on February 13, 2007, 19:45
This project has been deleted????
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Post by: kanujunkie on February 13, 2007, 20:10
pretty much, Yes
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Post by: romoby on February 14, 2007, 09:47
Pity...then..i'll make for myself!!!

Stay tuned guys!!

Rob
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Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2007, 00:04
Im really interested in this ive always been a fan of afterburner lights ,they have been about on the mk2 for a while the new tvr typhoon rear cluster are very similar to afterburner style but a bit more modern and couldnt look any hotter !
  will paypal in advance if you need deposits?
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Post by: rtbiscuit on February 16, 2007, 00:55
you can add me to the list as well

would love a set of lights like those!