My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

Started by shnazzle, August 27, 2015, 15:20

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shnazzle

I've been having sporadic misfires for a while now, so I think I'm going to pull my injectors and replace them with another set I have. Good chance I've got a leaking injector or two.

Low mpg
Constant neg fuel trims 
Misfires

It's probably pretty obvious.

The next option is that one of more of my coilpacks are duff. 
I have swapped a suspected one in the past, and it did nothing. I made sure to swap it from another bank so that I would see the trims swap to the other bank. No such luck
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Topdownman

Just keep swopping bits with Helens car until she gets the problem?
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Quote from: shnazzle on August  8, 2020, 09:15I've been having sporadic misfires for a while now, so I think I'm going to pull my injectors and replace them with another set I have. Good chance I've got a leaking injector or two.

Low mpg
Constant neg fuel trims
Misfires

It's probably pretty obvious.

The next option is that one of more of my coilpacks are duff.
I have swapped a suspected one in the past, and it did nothing. I made sure to swap it from another bank so that I would see the trims swap to the other bank. No such luck
Fairly sure I've got some reclaimed coilpacks on the shelf, give me a shout if you want to try any but obviously I can't guarantee they were any good when I pulled them at the scrappers.😆
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shnazzle

Quote from: Call the midlife! on August  8, 2020, 09:26
Quote from: shnazzle on August  8, 2020, 09:15I've been having sporadic misfires for a while now, so I think I'm going to pull my injectors and replace them with another set I have. Good chance I've got a leaking injector or two.

Low mpg
Constant neg fuel trims
Misfires

It's probably pretty obvious.

The next option is that one of more of my coilpacks are duff.
I have swapped a suspected one in the past, and it did nothing. I made sure to swap it from another bank so that I would see the trims swap to the other bank. No such luck
Fairly sure I've got some reclaimed coilpacks on the shelf, give me a shout if you want to try any but obviously I can't guarantee they were any good when I pulled them at the scrappers.😆
That'd be good if you could if it doesn't solve it I'll just send you mine back
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Carolyn

I can fix it. Stop looking at fuel trims....
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Quote from: shnazzle on August  8, 2020, 09:35
Quote from: Call the midlife! on August  8, 2020, 09:26
Quote from: shnazzle on August  8, 2020, 09:15I've been having sporadic misfires for a while now, so I think I'm going to pull my injectors and replace them with another set I have. Good chance I've got a leaking injector or two.

Low mpg
Constant neg fuel trims
Misfires

It's probably pretty obvious.

The next option is that one of more of my coilpacks are duff.
I have swapped a suspected one in the past, and it did nothing. I made sure to swap it from another bank so that I would see the trims swap to the other bank. No such luck
Fairly sure I've got some reclaimed coilpacks on the shelf, give me a shout if you want to try any but obviously I can't guarantee they were any good when I pulled them at the scrappers.😆
That'd be good if you could if it doesn't solve it I'll just send you mine back
Glad to, only problem being it won't be until next Friday now that I can get to the post office. I start 7-5 on Monday and it's  not open Saturdays at the moment. 🙁
60% of the time it works everytime...

shnazzle

Quote from: Carolyn on August  8, 2020, 09:35I can fix it. Stop looking at fuel trims....
But surely constant misfires is something I should be looking at fixing :) 

To be fair, this is the first time I've collected fuel trim data in a long time. I no longer have Torque running as a 2nd dash permanently. It is refreshing actually because I don't drive around paranoid all the time. 

I only thought to check because I felt the misfires
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Carolyn

Quote from: shnazzle on August  8, 2020, 10:35
Quote from: Carolyn on August  8, 2020, 09:35I can fix it. Stop looking at fuel trims....
But surely constant misfires is something I should be looking at fixing :)

To be fair, this is the first time I've collected fuel trim data in a long time. I no longer have Torque running as a 2nd dash permanently. It is refreshing actually because I don't drive around paranoid all the time.

I only thought to check because I felt the misfires

Fair enough.
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shnazzle

Captains log. 
Fresh front discs and yellow stuff pads. 

Have to say, the EBC pads do fit very nicely and they are meaty. 
Second time fitting them and I forgot how much nicer they are. 

Pagid discs are also a fair bit nicer than the mtec ones Ive been using for a good while. Just seem better built. 

Plenty of meat left on my old pads but I keep just glazing the crap out of them. 

One thing; bottom slider isn't great. So, will need to get some lube in there ASAP.
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Quote from: shnazzle on August 19, 2020, 17:33Captains log.
Fresh front discs and yellow stuff pads.

Have to say, the EBC pads do fit very nicely and they are meaty.
Second time fitting them and I forgot how much nicer they are.

Pagid discs are also a fair bit nicer than the mtec ones Ive been using for a good while. Just seem better built.

Plenty of meat left on my old pads but I keep just glazing the crap out of them.

One thing; bottom slider isn't great. So, will need to get some lube in there ASAP.
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shnazzle

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Joesson

Quote from: shnazzle on August 19, 2020, 17:33Captains log.
Fresh front discs and yellow stuff pads.

Have to say, the EBC pads do fit very nicely and they are meaty.
Second time fitting them and I forgot how much nicer they are.

Pagid discs are also a fair bit nicer than the mtec ones Ive been using for a good while. Just seem better built.

Plenty of meat left on my old pads but I keep just glazing the crap out of them.

One thing; bottom slider isn't great. So, will need to get some lube in there ASAP.
I fitted Pagid discs to my daily and have found the anti corrosion coating to be efficient.

shnazzle

And the reason for the swap. 
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Burnt to a crisp. And not evenly front/back which further highlights my need to lube up that slider
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househead

The yellowstuff pads strike a nice contrast with those blue calipers too.

Have the pagid discs + yellowstuff on mine and I'm very happy so far.
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Gaz mr-s

I'm replacing Mtec too. Worst discs for rust I've ever owned.  A contributor on this forum works in the brakes field & has told me that Mtec don't make discs. They buy the cheapest they can & make make them look sexy, or just box them.

shnazzle

Took the car down south last weekend and those brakes....Just crazy. Now for the rears to be done. At the same time I will take the front calipers apart again just so I can lube up the sliders. On the rear there's going to have to be a bit of handbrake adjustment. I'm really scraping the barrel now.

In other news I saw a post about some Alpine speakers for 35 GBP. I put an order in. Unfortunately I was called a few days later to be told they were out of stock and if I wanted these Pioneer speakers instead. I went for it.

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I got these speaker adapters online a good while ago. The new speakers screwed straight into the adapters and the adapters were a perfect fit onto the door.

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Next to stock.
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Install was easy. These come with in-line high-pass filters just like the one on the stock tweeters.
The new tweeters I fitted onto the stock frames. Stock ones are screwed onto a metal plate. I unscrewed them and stuck the new tweeters on using the provided double-sided sticky pads. As for wiring, I've gone for a simple splice into the stock speaker wires. Left all the connectors etc in place.
First door took a bit of figuring out to see how I was going to do it. Second door took 10 minutes.

I need to tinker a bit with the equaliser but first impressions are that they are definitely more clear. The tweeters seem to have a very high set filter so really only cover the upper ends of the "ttssss" of a high-hat for example.

Bass I dare say is actually a bit less than stock I think. I could be wrong. But mixed with my usw-10 woofer they offer a good boost in clarity. Especially at higher volumes.
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Bossworld

They'll improve as they break in I'd have thought?

I tried unscrewing the stock tweeters from the brackets but they also appeared to be epoxied on (or similar) :D

Only thing I'd check with using the adaptors, if you look at the rear of the stock speakers, the shroud looks like it'd stop water ingress. I taped a cut open sandwich bag to the top rear of the new speakers to protect them in a similar fashion.

BahnStormer

They're a pretty straight-forward swap, but I figured I'd get some improvement with mine when I swapped the speakers over and put some Pioneer components so I went for the ones with the active filter... but I think they were closer to £100 for the pair, but a very straight swap and a MASSIVE improvement over stock - tweeters and mid-range are amazing and bass response is incredible (lower than most subs) - albeit not with as much volume....
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shnazzle

Been a while since any update, which makes sense as I do nothing with the car anymore haha!
All my money is going on fly fishing. It was supposed to be a somewhat cheaper hobby...let me tell you, it's not.

BUT... it's MOT time so figured I'd best sort the broken bulbs in the dash, the dead rear pads and iffy handbrake.
Bought some EBC yellow stuff for the rear to match my fronts. For road use, I do rather enjoy the EBC yellows. Although I would say, progressive they are not. Oh well. Then I can also put my rear spacers on which I've had sat for about 6 months and get my rear wheels out to the correct width compared to the fronts. Also fit the dogbone spacers for the subframe.
I guess at some point I also need to install the aerial blanking plate I got off @Snelbaard but that'll have to wait for summer.

Also still have set of 45GBP A-arms to replace mine, but quite frankly I've been put off since people have reported issues with these. 
 
Now to dig through the garage to see if I can find any old dash bulbs. Should have some. If not, I'll have to stick the horrible LED ones in for now. Then I need to tackle the broken light behind the temperature knob on the HVAC.

Still the occasional misfire despite changing all coil packs, sparks, returning to stock intake. Last one on the list is to send off some spare injectors for cleaning and replace them. See if that does the trick. Runs fine otherwise.

Decided to be naughty yesterday at an empty crossing and launch the car. It did not such thing. revved, dumped and just burnt the sh1t out of the clutch. As it turns out the AD08Rs have more grip than my clutch does hahaha. Oh well. Not doing that again then.
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BahnStormer

ha ha.... on a standard 1ZZ, if it's dry and not to cold, you'll struggle to spin up the AD08RS's, although a slightly damp road and you can get some gentle progressive drift on the throttle....

Personally I'm going to save mine for trackdays and the Conti Sport Contact 2's will go on next March - they're a fair bit older, so really need to get "used up".... might even take those to the next limits day, it'll put me amongst the Saxo's on the highspeed bend rankings, instead of just behind the Elises.... but at least then they'll be done  >:D
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tricky1138

Dash bulb arent a MOT fail!

Get everything else fixed first! ;)
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1979scotte

Quote from: shnazzle on November 23, 2020, 10:30Decided to be naughty yesterday at an empty crossing and launch the car. It did not such thing. revved, dumped and just burnt the sh1t out of the clutch. As it turns out the AD08Rs have more grip than my clutch does hahaha. Oh well. Not doing that again then.

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Topdownman

I thought you reserved such behaviour for Helens car!
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shnazzle

Quote from: 1979scotte on November 23, 2020, 12:08
Quote from: shnazzle on November 23, 2020, 10:30Decided to be naughty yesterday at an empty crossing and launch the car. It did not such thing. revved, dumped and just burnt the sh1t out of the clutch. As it turns out the AD08Rs have more grip than my clutch does hahaha. Oh well. Not doing that again then.

Exactly how old are you? 🙄😂
Never too old! I behaved like a model driver before that so.. I'm allowed :) 



Quote from: Topdownman on November 23, 2020, 12:19I thought you reserved such behaviour for Helens car!
Haha not anymore now that hers is no longer faster than mine :)
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