My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

Started by shnazzle, August 27, 2015, 15:20

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tomaky

From 112 to 113lbft? Haha

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Skoda octavia vrs 2ltr 245bhp petrol 2023 estate
Ex-2011 Skoda Superb Estate 170 CR Daily Driver
Ex - 2005 Porsche Cayman S
Ex - 2003 Sable
Ex- 2000 Pre FL Blue THOR RACING Ex- TURBO
Ex 2004 Blue  Roadster RIP

1979scotte

Quote from: tomaky on March 19, 2019, 10:18
From 112 to 113lbft? Haha

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When you've not got a big fat porker every little bit matters.  :thebird:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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shnazzle

Quote from: 1979scotte on March 19, 2019, 10:21
Quote from: tomaky on March 19, 2019, 10:18
From 112 to 113lbft? Haha

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When you've not got a big fat porker every little bit matters.  :thebird:
Damn right!
Well, put it this way, I get wheel spin rather easily now whereas before I had to force it, which my clutch would not thank me for
...neutiquam erro.

tomaky

That might be the most asbo thing I've read from you [emoji23] the r888s refuse to spin.

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Ex - 2005 Porsche Cayman S
Ex - 2003 Sable
Ex- 2000 Pre FL Blue THOR RACING Ex- TURBO
Ex 2004 Blue  Roadster RIP

1979scotte

Quote from: tomaky on March 19, 2019, 10:29
That might be the most asbo thing I've read from you [emoji23] the r888s refuse to spin.

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Complete turd they span plenty at Scotch Corner.
So much that you had to be rescued.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

shnazzle

Quote from: 1979scotte on March 19, 2019, 10:40
Quote from: tomaky on March 19, 2019, 10:29
That might be the most asbo thing I've read from you [emoji23] the r888s refuse to spin.

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Complete turd they span plenty at Scotch Corner.
So much that you had to be rescued.
...neutiquam erro.

tomaky

Quote from: 1979scotte on March 19, 2019, 10:40
Quote from: tomaky on March 19, 2019, 10:29
That might be the most asbo thing I've read from you [emoji23] the r888s refuse to spin.

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Complete turd they span plenty at Scotch Corner.
So much that you had to be rescued.
Didn't have to be just had a bloody panic attacking girlfriend haha

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Skoda octavia vrs 2ltr 245bhp petrol 2023 estate
Ex-2011 Skoda Superb Estate 170 CR Daily Driver
Ex - 2005 Porsche Cayman S
Ex - 2003 Sable
Ex- 2000 Pre FL Blue THOR RACING Ex- TURBO
Ex 2004 Blue  Roadster RIP

shnazzle

Yes I'm back obsessing about fueling and stuff, following the install of my Zero manifold and new cat.
Go on, get it out your system...
In the meantime, I've been collecting logs to try to determine where my map is failing me and causing the issues.

Created a spreadsheet that creates a nice little 16x16 table based on loading in logs from Torque Pro on rpm, throttle and LTFT1/2. Finds all the values, splits them across throttle and rpm and averages the trims.

Result so far after just 3 logs-worth are interesting already.
...neutiquam erro.

Call the midlife!

You know what that's telling you don't you?
Your car knows Kung Fu...


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60% of the time it works everytime...

shnazzle

Quote from: Call the midlife! on March 19, 2019, 22:14
You know what that's telling you don't you?
Your car knows Kung Fu...


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Que?
...neutiquam erro.

delhusband

never mind that, a man of your talents with all those divide by zero errors!  ;)
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shnazzle

Quote from: delhusband on March 19, 2019, 22:46
never mind that, a man of your talents with all those divide by zero errors!  ;)
Don't even..

I was going to add error handling  into the formula but its already quite long!

Once I start adding more parameters (timing and o2 voltage) I'll switch to VBA to do the analysis :)

I reckon if I do the same for o2 voltage and cross-reference against trims, I can get a decent impression of the stock target AFR map :)
0.45=stoich., so it should be easy to map out where it's targeting 14.7...which I think is damn near everywhere but full throttle
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Call the midlife!

Quote from: shnazzle on March 19, 2019, 22:43
Quote from: Call the midlife! on March 19, 2019, 22:14
You know what that's telling you don't you?
Your car knows Kung Fu...


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Que?
https://youtu.be/6vMO3XmNXe4


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Alex Knight

Quote from: delhusband on March 19, 2019, 22:46
never mind that, a man of your talents with all those divide by zero errors!  ;)

=IFERROR(<your existing formula>,"")

Will fix this. Sets all errors to blank cells.

shnazzle

Quote from: Alex Knight on March 20, 2019, 11:34
Quote from: delhusband on March 19, 2019, 22:46
never mind that, a man of your talents with all those divide by zero errors!  ;)

=IFERROR(<your existing formula>,"")

Will fix this. Sets all errors to blank cells.
Did this on my version already.
But, with a few thousands rows of data so far, it has made it very slow. So, going down VBA route now.
...neutiquam erro.

shnazzle

There we go. Can now flexibly choose the table resolution as well.
I tried doing a 64x64 table which leads to even more interesting results.

The only thing I don't like is that I'm averaging the LTFT bank 1 and bank 2. The core assumption in that is that both sensors are equally accurate, and that fueling across both banks is similar. It hides that one bank could be running leaner than another for one reason or another.

What this tells me is that my low load areas are smashing but the part throttle areas not so much.
Good news is that it seems to be an almost flat value of about 7%. Easy fix!

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shnazzle

Oil and filter change today.
This little doodad on the oil bottle is awfully handy


Whilst under the automobile I did see something I didn't like, engine mount rubber is just holding on on two sides. No wonder the head steady made such a difference :) Time for some Sikaflex treatment. Didn't have any in the house unfortunately:


Also took some pics of the cat:


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Carolyn

The gaps on the sides are as it's made.

But doubtless it will be floppy.

Clean as thoroughly as you cam. Tooth brush, degreaser, then fairy liquid and then water.

Jack the engine to centre the bush.  Put goop in from both sides.

Leave jacked for 24 hours to cure.
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shnazzle

Oh that's odd. At the top there I felt a load of rubber deposit like as if the mount had been attached there at one point.
Regardless, it's getting stuffed.


As usual the engine oil replacement job was 20mins to let it drip a while and replace oil and 40 mins to remove and replace the damn nappies! I hate those things
...neutiquam erro.

cptspaulding

Quote from: shnazzle on March 22, 2019, 13:10
40 mins to remove and replace the damn nappies! I hate those things

exactly that  :(
Former owner 2003, 2zz conversion.

Carolyn

in this pic, you can see an example of the extra bit of rubber-  It does not connect, it's simply a buffer.
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smarty72

Quote from: shnazzle on March 22, 2019, 13:10
Oh that's odd. At the top there I felt a load of rubber deposit like as if the mount had been attached there at one point.
Regardless, it's getting stuffed.


As usual the engine oil replacement job was 20mins to let it drip a while and replace oil and 40 mins to remove and replace the damn nappies! I hate those things

At the age my car has reached, I consider it a grown up, so I don't force it to wear a nappy anymore...
current: Astral Black FL

Ex: Forest Green 2003.

shnazzle

Quote from: smarty72 on March 22, 2019, 15:50
Quote from: shnazzle on March 22, 2019, 13:10
Oh that's odd. At the top there I felt a load of rubber deposit like as if the mount had been attached there at one point.
Regardless, it's getting stuffed.


As usual the engine oil replacement job was 20mins to let it drip a while and replace oil and 40 mins to remove and replace the damn nappies! I hate those things

At the age my car has reached, I consider it a grown up, so I don't force it to wear a nappy anymore...
I know! But you know me... I get worried when people start talking about how the nappies help with airflow into the engine bay and even downforce/lift!

If someone could say, with some certainty, that it has no negative effects then they'd be off.

Concerns I have are:
- the gaping hole into the flywheel (like everyone else, my little plastic cover is long gone)
- excessive corrosion, as it is an all-year daily
- downforce/lift
- engine bay temps.
...neutiquam erro.

Joesson

@shnazzle -
I've said previously that I believe manufacturer's do things for a reason. I can't see why Toyota would put the three ( is it in total) under trays on the 2 if there were not valid reasons.
The "concerns" that you have are likely among the "reasons".

shnazzle

Quote from: Joesson on March 23, 2019, 09:33
@shnazzle -
I've said previously that I believe manufacturer's do things for a reason. I can't see why Toyota would put the three ( is it in total) under trays on the 2 if there were not valid reasons.
The "concerns" that you have are likely among the "reasons".
Exactly. They can't just be cosmetic.

What I do find ridiculous is the pointless oil draining "port" in the mid nappy. It's far too small so it just goes into the nappy and causes a massive mess and you can't get to the oil filter. Why would you drain oil without changing the filter.
So, on that note, Toyota designers can sometimes get it very wrong.
...neutiquam erro.

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