Scotts Yellow Supercharged V6 Roadster

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s12vea

#900
April 1, 2019, 12:41
I can't imagine fuelling would be an issue either for 300bhp.
Lessons will be learnt and I will be finished, light at the end of the tunnel mate for sure
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shnazzle

#901
April 1, 2019, 13:24
Quote from: 1979scotte on April  1, 2019, 12:38
Quote from: ayresyboy on April  1, 2019, 11:23
Oh dear oh dear. How did the conversation go with the differing opinions? Andy

Don't want to get too heavily into it Andy.
Never met the guy which is a serious error on my part.
Wasn't there when the car went on the dyno again a school boy error.
I don't believe I need a 280 LPH fuel pump or 500+ cc injectors to achieve 300bhp on a 3 litre motor.
Agreed.
Quick calc shows 472cc. But that's assuming 10psi and no RR FPR, a max of 80% duty and 300 at the wheels.

So, you're more likely sub-400cc.

90% duty, RR FPR and 300 at crank is only 320cc

Seen this a lot when we were looking for a tuner; they all have an unhealthy obsession with Walbro pumps and huge injectors.

Good move to shift
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1979scotte

#902
April 1, 2019, 13:38
Quote from: shnazzle on April  1, 2019, 13:24
Quote from: 1979scotte on April  1, 2019, 12:38
Quote from: ayresyboy on April  1, 2019, 11:23
Oh dear oh dear. How did the conversation go with the differing opinions? Andy

Don't want to get too heavily into it Andy.
Never met the guy which is a serious error on my part.
Wasn't there when the car went on the dyno again a school boy error.
I don't believe I need a 280 LPH fuel pump or 500+ cc injectors to achieve 300bhp on a 3 litre motor.
Agreed.
Quick calc shows 472cc. But that's assuming 10psi and no RR FPR, a max of 80% duty and 300 at the wheels.

So, you're more likely sub-400cc.

90% duty, RR FPR and 300 at crank is only 320cc

Seen this a lot when we were looking for a tuner; they all have an unhealthy obsession with Walbro pumps and huge injectors.

Good move to shift

300 at the flywheel is all I am insured for.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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StuC

#903
April 1, 2019, 22:17
New tuner is deffo the way to go mate.

So much has gone into getting bee6 to this point, I feel you are close to finishing with:
the right people,
doing the right things,
at the right time. :)

Looking forward to seeing and hearing her at DD.
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1979scotte

#904
April 17, 2019, 16:45
Hopefully some good news Tuesday.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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#905
April 17, 2019, 16:52
Sounds good..[emoji1303]


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mikek

#906
April 17, 2019, 19:49
Fingers crossed Scott, you could do with a bit of good luck with this project
2zz by Rogue. Se7en cams. BMC CDA. Competion clutches lightened flywheel, Megillian Racing Exhaust. TRD sportivo suspension and ARB\'s. TRD braces. TRD quick shift. TRD dash kit, Matts brace. Getting there but not sure when it will stop!

1979scotte

#907
April 24, 2019, 10:46
So the car went back to Dyno yesterday.
Has had a new fuel pump and injectors fitted.

Long and the short is she made 240bhp 244 ft-lb at the wheels 7 psi boost.
The Dyno corrected this to 295bhp which seems quite a lot but it is what it is and as I am only insured to 300bhp that's where it was called a day.
Being a V6 and using a heavier S series gearbox the losses are always going to be higher than a 1zz and a C6x.
300 @ the wheels is well within reach according to the tuner but I don't believe the transmission could live with that.

Was hoping to get to drive her today but the drivers side driveshaft has now shown it's age so will have to be changed hopefully get that sorted within a week.

Ultimately figures are just a tunning guide and it's how she drives that matters.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

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#908
April 24, 2019, 11:23
Happy Days??


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StuC

#909
April 24, 2019, 11:35
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 24, 2019, 10:46
So the car went back to Dyno yesterday.
Has had a new fuel pump and injectors fitted.

Long and the short is she made 240bhp 244 ft-lb at the wheels 7 psi boost.
The Dyno corrected this to 295bhp which seems quite a lot but it is what it is and as I am only insured to 300bhp that's where it was called a day.
Being a V6 and using a heavier S series gearbox the losses are always going to be higher than a 1zz and a C6x.
300 @ the wheels is well within reach according to the tuner but I don't believe the transmission could live with that.

Was hoping to get to drive her today but the drivers side driveshaft has now shown it's age so will have to be changed hopefully get that sorted within a week.

Ultimately figures are just a tunning guide and it's how she drives that matters.

Numbers are good and all, but...
The bit I am interested in is how YOU feel about driving her. That's the report I am looking forward to reading.
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shnazzle

#910
April 24, 2019, 11:37
That's a lovely curve as it is. I'd be very pleased. Fingers crossed it's what you want it to be when you drive it
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1979scotte

#911
April 24, 2019, 15:19
Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 24, 2019, 11:23
Happy Days??


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Yes although as I said its how she drives not the figures and I'm yet to drive her.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

1979scotte

#912
April 24, 2019, 15:22
Quote from: shnazzle on April 24, 2019, 11:37
That's a lovely curve as it is. I'd be very pleased. Fingers crossed it's what you want it to be when you drive it

The HP curve is typical rotrex climbs beautifully in relation to revs.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Mikeymead

#913
April 24, 2019, 15:37
Yay, progress, shame about the drive shaft but getting there.
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cptspaulding

#914
April 24, 2019, 16:42
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.

Hoping it won't be too long now. There'll be a queue about 40 deep for a ride-along a ding day  :D :D

Former owner 2003, 2zz conversion.

Call the midlife!

#915
April 24, 2019, 16:48
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 24, 2019, 15:19
Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 24, 2019, 11:23
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Yes although as I said its how she drives not the figures and I'm yet to drive her.
I get where you're coming from, I'm currently at the point where I'm wanting to drive it but apprehensive about it going pear shaped again.
I don't think any of us will ever be totally happy with our cars but I imagine you grinning from ear to ear the first time you get to boot it one regardless.


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StuC

#916
April 24, 2019, 17:02
Quote from: cptspaulding on April 24, 2019, 16:42
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.

Well said!
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JoeCool

#917
April 24, 2019, 19:11
Never know, next time you might beat me around the sprint course with torque like that!

Fingers crossed for you, but I reckon she's all right now. Nothing to it but to drive it!
2ZZ '02 Roadster

1979scotte

#918
April 24, 2019, 19:16
Quote from: JoeCool on April 24, 2019, 19:11
Never know, next time you might beat me around the sprint course with torque like that!

Fingers crossed for you, but I reckon she's all right now. Nothing to it but to drive it!

Would of beat you last time if it wasn't on T1R and understeering for England ;p
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

Ardent

#919
April 24, 2019, 21:24
Quote from: cptspaulding on April 24, 2019, 16:42
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.

Hoping it won't be too long now. There'll be a queue about 40 deep for a ride-along a ding day  :D :D
Small ones to front.  ;)

shnazzle

#920
April 24, 2019, 21:33
Quote from: Ardent on April 24, 2019, 21:24
Quote from: cptspaulding on April 24, 2019, 16:42
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.

Hoping it won't be too long now. There'll be a queue about 40 deep for a ride-along a ding day  :D :D
Small ones to front.  ;)
In the cubby with you
...neutiquam erro.

Ardent

#921
April 24, 2019, 21:40
 :D
Not much different o virtually being in the binnicale.

KRAMSNEHPETS

#922
April 24, 2019, 21:40
I look forward to you review of how it feels when you have driven it. Mine gets new exhaust sillencer and some more dyno on the 4th may
2004 Red edition. 2ZZ engine with Rotrex 30 94 supercharger,90mm pulley. Link Storm ECU. Charge cooler. Custom Meggalian exhaust.Uprated fuel pump, regulator and rail.840 injectors.323 BHP at the hubs. Meistier coil overs. Matt under body brace. Front and rear, upper and lower braces,list goes on...

tricky1138

#923
April 25, 2019, 09:39
Getting closer to being done. Hope it gets sorted soon.

Light at the end of the very long tunnel!
2004 FL, Black, Matt Brace, Team Dynamics Monza R, Tein Springs, TTE Exhaust, heated black leather seats, black leather armrest,  Zunsport grills, Midship front badge,  TRD spoiler, Halo DRLs with LED fogs, large clear wind defector, Krissg kick panels,  small mongos.

1979scotte

#924
April 25, 2019, 21:56
Home with her and all is well.
First impressions are good but need to get more time behind the wheel.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦
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