Blue PFL V8 conversion

Started by 8thumpers, January 14, 2018, 00:39

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8thumpers

Quote from: StuC on March 19, 2018, 18:06
Just thinking out loud. You should be able to calculate backwards from my previous measurements, as hey were to the subframe mount. This is only viable of course if you still have your subframe. ;)

@8thumpers
Yeah  I did do that and have made the decision to junk all standard suspension arms in favour of rose joints so that gives me some flexibility in dimensions.
Cheers mate.

StuC

I hope that gives you enough wiggle room. :)
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tomaky

That looks like its going to sit pretty low?
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StuC

@tomaky Not as low as your standards though mate, so it will still run OK.
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Quote from: StuC on March 23, 2018, 14:14
@tomaky Not as low as your standards though mate, so it will still run OK.
Harsh! But probably fair...


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8thumpers

Quote from: tomaky on March 23, 2018, 12:04
That looks like its going to sit pretty low?
On a technical note.. I will have 125mm ground clearance so should be ok :)

tomaky

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Skoda octavia vrs 2ltr 245bhp petrol 2023 estate
Ex-2011 Skoda Superb Estate 170 CR Daily Driver
Ex - 2005 Porsche Cayman S
Ex - 2003 Sable
Ex- 2000 Pre FL Blue THOR RACING Ex- TURBO
Ex 2004 Blue  Roadster RIP

8thumpers

#182
Picked up some Audi wheels on FleaBay today for  £100... only need two for the rear at mo, but as they are similar to the 2 I couldn't resist!
Also sorted a comfy garage seat and cracked a beer open!
It's not all about getting oily! [emoji23]🤣

8thumpers

Re-fibreglassed the garage roof today in the sunshine. No more leaks!!
Also, my rose-joints arrived for the suspension arms [emoji106]

8thumpers

The first trial fitting of the engine mount x-member. I'm pleased with the result, it will put a lot of cross strength back into the chassis.
Next job is to get the mounts themselves designed and fitted to it....

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The other part that FleaBay gave up was an A6 gear shift linkage. This mates directly to our Jedi box.
I think with some minor engineering I can utilise it quite nicely.

8thumpers

The Audi shifter is attached to its original gearbox selector and is so simple. A direct rod that rotates slightly to cross the gate and pulls back and forth to select gears.

I thought I'd see if the Audi gearstick mechanism could be used at all...
It looks like it will almost drop right in place  - needs a small bracket or two to locate it but it even fits inside the 2 tunnel trim!

Sometimes things just happen right! [emoji3][emoji4][emoji4][emoji4][emoji41]

MrT

What are you planning for subframe? I'd understood that gearbox mount was part of subframe. Didn't realise it was not.
Cheers
Tyler

RIPieces: Sable \'05 Roadster \'Red\' edition.
Project: MR-S import (JDM) now my toy and mule for:
SC build OR a 2AR-FXE swap (ref: Frankenstein Motorworks) OR Electric conversion
AND rebody with a fibreglass replica of Porsche 550 Spyder.

StuC

Nice progress, especially to see the "engine cradle" in place.

Looks like the route for the gearshift is going to be "interesting". ;)
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8thumpers

Quote from: MrT on March 30, 2018, 14:30
What are you planning for subframe? I'd understood that gearbox mount was part of subframe. Didn't realise it was not.
Rear subframe is independent to engine mount subframe. Rear one will support gearbox and all the suspension pickup points too.
Currently the engine is supported on wooden blocks...

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Quote from: StuC on March 30, 2018, 15:23
Nice progress, especially to see the "engine cradle" in place.

Looks like the route for the gearshift is going to be "interesting". ;)
Yeah it should pass up the side of the engine and route between the alternator and block via some small UJs....

MrT

Oh ok, sorry. I'm confusing the 2 subframes. You will need some sort of transverse torque brace across the top of the engine, otherwise I'd worry about the block mounts just twisting that engine subframe in half.

But making great progress.
Cheers
Tyler

RIPieces: Sable \'05 Roadster \'Red\' edition.
Project: MR-S import (JDM) now my toy and mule for:
SC build OR a 2AR-FXE swap (ref: Frankenstein Motorworks) OR Electric conversion
AND rebody with a fibreglass replica of Porsche 550 Spyder.

8thumpers

Quote from: MrT on March 30, 2018, 23:05
Oh ok, sorry. I'm confusing the 2 subframes. You will need some sort of transverse torque brace across the top of the engine, otherwise I'd worry about the block mounts just twisting that engine subframe in half.

But making great progress.
Thanx :)

The Audi has an offset torque mount at the front to deal with the twisting ... I'll get a pic later....

8thumpers

Currently taking a week off in sunny Cornwall.... plenty of time to order those parts I need for gearchange and suspension arms! [emoji6]

BahnStormer

This build it utterly mental!! Good work, I'm loving it!
Black 2006: AC & heated leather: 4x Megillian braces, Koni/Tein custom suspension, MTEC+YS+braided brakes, Toyosports manifold, TTE exhaust, Conti PremiumContact2(summer)/ Conti TS860S(winter) / YokoAD08RS (track/summer), Pioneer MVH-390BT + TS-E171ci, FBSW, Robbins mohair hood.

8thumpers

Quote from: BahnStormer on April  8, 2018, 12:40
This build it utterly mental!! Good work, I'm loving it!
That's me! Mad as a box of cranks!
Cheers!

8thumpers

A few parts arrived this week..
UJs for the gear linkage complete with correct size tube.
PU engine and gearbox mounts - for Landrover and Capri!
The threaded inserts for the Spherical joints. These will be welded into tube to fabricate the suspension arms.
Automotion Components do some great deals on stuff like this  - well worth getting one of their free catalogues!

Oh, and I also got my £56 mig working with little trouble - Fleabay Bargain!

8thumpers

A bit of an update so you know it's still going on....
Finally got the rear subframe fabricated and offered up.
Next job is to finalise the pu gearbox and engine mount positions.
I'll also get the suspension arm positions and weld on the brackets to locate them on the subframe.

StuC

That is a big step fella. Well done.

Are you going to brace the corner points of the subframe?
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MrT

That subframe shouldn't need any bracing given the size of the tubing. Very well engineered. Only thing I'd suggest is capping the top mount tubes, but it might cause an issue for powder coating. You could drill a breather hole in the crush tubes before capping it though.

Nice work.
Cheers
Tyler

RIPieces: Sable \'05 Roadster \'Red\' edition.
Project: MR-S import (JDM) now my toy and mule for:
SC build OR a 2AR-FXE swap (ref: Frankenstein Motorworks) OR Electric conversion
AND rebody with a fibreglass replica of Porsche 550 Spyder.

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