Dans Turbo Build

Started by dan944, February 22, 2018, 13:42

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shnazzle

Series.

In parallel there will be less water pressure through the water lines to the turbo, which means heat won't dissipate as quickly.

Turbo is hotter so it will be the last one in the series to add its heat before it goes to the radiator.

Make sure your water radiator is in good shape and fans are working.
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1979scotte

Buy a new rad they're not expensive
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dan944

Thank you guys.  As always, much help. 

Quote from: 1979scotte on March 20, 2018, 07:42
Buy a new rad they're not expensive

already fitted one :)

mines only single fan, is it worth getting another from scrap and wiring it in parallel to the standard.  I can't remember why there's only one  :-\.

Going ballsy and buying intake pipework in advance.  I know what layout i want so just hoping the angles and lengths are correct.
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1979scotte

Quote from: dan944 on March 20, 2018, 08:27
Thank you guys.  As always, much help. 

Quote from: 1979scotte on March 20, 2018, 07:42
Buy a new rad they're not expensive

already fitted one :)

Wouldn't do any harm but I never had an issues with mine over heating.
mines only single fan, is it worth getting another from scrap and wiring it in parallel to the standard.  I can't remember why there's only one  :-\.

Going ballsy and buying intake pipework in advance.  I know what layout i want so just hoping the angles and lengths are correct.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
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dan944

So...I'm an idiot. After buying multiple adapters and restrictors (and not working still) I take all the fittings off the turbo, only to find....the banjo bolt is all ready a restrictor!!!!  PLEB!!!!  Just need a big pair of circlips to finish clocking the turbo now :)
Make space in the garage and pick up all the intake pipe work tomorrow then Saturday it begins...finally!!
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dan944

So, things went well today. Have a little bit left on the intake, then plumb in the boost gauge whilst I wait for my exhaust appt :).
So the question is. How do I relocate my catch tank thing. Can I just rip out the metal pipe work and feed my own in wherever I want?
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shnazzle

You don't have a catch tank. You mean the evap cannister? If leave that to be honest.

Adding  a catch tank is  a good idea mind.
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dan944

That's that one lol. Think I've got the answer from d!ck Sloan.
Just going to move tank to the other side.

Will look at getting a catch tank though.
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dan944

Anyone got advice on how to fit side scoops. I've got them sprayed up ready to fit and wondering if no more nails was the best option. I feel they should be screwed to get them really secure?
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wotugonado

Tigerseal is your best bet, no more nails sets rock hard and offers no flexibility for movement
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dan944

Thank you  :notworthy:
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Honda CR-V The Work Horse

shnazzle

Quote from: wotugonado on March 27, 2018, 10:29
Tigerseal is your best bet, no more nails sets rock hard and offers no flexibility for movement
Agreed. Make sure you can build some way to push the scoops onto the car though. They do flex a bit. Tape alone doesn't do it.

I had two wood boards lodged between some bricks that stick out on our drive and the scoops, with microfibre cloths to protect the scoops.
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dan944

Hmmm. It's in the garage at the moment so might be easier to go off the garage walls. Thanks again!!

Power flow exhaust booked in for Tuesday :)

Just waiting for some more vac line to run a line for the ecu and to connect the boost gauge. Also need a new filter as my bmc wont fit so that'll be up for sale as well as some other bits  :( apart from that I think I've finished my part of the build. :) wasn't hard at all tbh. Hope I get a good outcome!!!
I'd put pics up but don't know how :s
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Silver mr2 2003 FL. Custom Turbo build 209whp. Lots of handling mods.

Honda CR-V The Work Horse

shnazzle

Quote from: dan944 on March 27, 2018, 10:40
Hmmm. It's in the garage at the moment so might be easier to go off the garage walls. Thanks again!!

Power flow exhaust booked in for Tuesday :)

Just waiting for some more vac line to run a line for the ecu and to connect the boost gauge. Also need a new filter as my bmc wont fit so that'll be up for sale as well as some other bits  :( apart from that I think I've finished my part of the build. :) wasn't hard at all tbh. Hope I get a good outcome!!!
I'd put pics up but don't know how :s
Sweet!
Tell you what... Your thread definitely inspires me towards turbo.
As many will know, I've been back/forth between 2zz power build, 1zz build, or turbo (or sc).
It changes all the time.

I was put off the 2zz idea I think... But not sure

But your turbo journey has been pretty painless hasn't it.?
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dan944

It really has been easy work. Very enjoyable work as well.
The biggest part for me was the prep. Getting ALL the correct parts that work together. I couldn't have done that without the help from yourselves.
I've learned a lot about forced induction that I didn't know. Mainly the vac side of things lol.

Looks like we may have a fairly long wait to get booked in at RRR which is going to kill me but then it will be complete!!

Very much looking forward to seeing what one of these can do with an extra 100hp.!
"I swear mum I did try and sell the roadster"

Silver mr2 2003 FL. Custom Turbo build 209whp. Lots of handling mods.

Honda CR-V The Work Horse

1979scotte

Quote from: shnazzle on March 27, 2018, 12:05
Quote from: dan944 on March 27, 2018, 10:40
Hmmm. It's in the garage at the moment so might be easier to go off the garage walls. Thanks again!!

Power flow exhaust booked in for Tuesday :)

Just waiting for some more vac line to run a line for the ecu and to connect the boost gauge. Also need a new filter as my bmc wont fit so that'll be up for sale as well as some other bits  :( apart from that I think I've finished my part of the build. :) wasn't hard at all tbh. Hope I get a good outcome!!!
I'd put pics up but don't know how :s
Sweet!
Tell you what... Your thread definitely inspires me towards turbo.
As many will know, I've been back/forth between 2zz power build, 1zz build, or turbo (or sc).
It changes all the time.

I was put off the 2zz idea I think... But not sure

But your turbo journey has been pretty painless hasn't it.?

2zz or turbo/SC why no V6?
Apart from fuel consumption.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

shnazzle



Quote from: 1979scotte on March 27, 2018, 13:16
Quote from: shnazzle on March 27, 2018, 12:05
Quote from: dan944 on March 27, 2018, 10:40
Hmmm. It's in the garage at the moment so might be easier to go off the garage walls. Thanks again!!

Power flow exhaust booked in for Tuesday :)

Just waiting for some more vac line to run a line for the ecu and to connect the boost gauge. Also need a new filter as my bmc wont fit so that'll be up for sale as well as some other bits  :( apart from that I think I've finished my part of the build. :) wasn't hard at all tbh. Hope I get a good outcome!!!
I'd put pics up but don't know how :s
Sweet!
Tell you what... Your thread definitely inspires me towards turbo.
As many will know, I've been back/forth between 2zz power build, 1zz build, or turbo (or sc).
It changes all the time.

I was put off the 2zz idea I think... But not sure

But your turbo journey has been pretty painless hasn't it.?

2zz or turbo/SC why no V6?
Apart from fuel consumption.

Lots of reasons for me personally but the main one is the ability to piece together parts over a long period of time. I can't afford a big wallop of an expense in one go.

And I've learned so much in the way of do's and don'ts with regard to turbos that frankly that's where my comfort lies.

2zz I think I'd be disappointed with but a turbo 2zz does hit the mark. But frankly, cost/benefit of 2zz turbo vs 1zz turbo... The extra expensive of the swap isn't worth it.
It's either turbo or positive displacement SC.

Also... I'd be more than happy with 230ish break.
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1979scotte

Quote from: shnazzle on March 27, 2018, 13:23


Quote from: 1979scotte on March 27, 2018, 13:16
Quote from: shnazzle on March 27, 2018, 12:05
Quote from: dan944 on March 27, 2018, 10:40
Hmmm. It's in the garage at the moment so might be easier to go off the garage walls. Thanks again!!

Power flow exhaust booked in for Tuesday :)

Just waiting for some more vac line to run a line for the ecu and to connect the boost gauge. Also need a new filter as my bmc wont fit so that'll be up for sale as well as some other bits  :( apart from that I think I've finished my part of the build. :) wasn't hard at all tbh. Hope I get a good outcome!!!
I'd put pics up but don't know how :s
Sweet!
Tell you what... Your thread definitely inspires me towards turbo.
As many will know, I've been back/forth between 2zz power build, 1zz build, or turbo (or sc).
It changes all the time.

I was put off the 2zz idea I think... But not sure

But your turbo journey has been pretty painless hasn't it.?

2zz or turbo/SC why no V6?
Apart from fuel consumption.

Lots of reasons for me personally but the main one is the ability to piece together parts over a long period of time. I can't afford a big wallop of an expense in one go.

And I've learned so much in the way of do's and don'ts with regard to turbos that frankly that's where my comfort lies.

2zz I think I'd be disappointed with but a turbo 2zz does hit the mark. But frankly, cost/benefit of 2zz turbo vs 1zz turbo... The extra expensive of the swap isn't worth it.
It's either turbo or positive displacement SC.

Also... I'd be more than happy with 230ish break.

Won't clog up Dan's thread but if that's the sort of power you are happy with then it's 1zz turbo all the way.
It's when you want more that a 2zz comes into its own.
So much stronger internally.
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Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

dan944

Would most of the kit be transferable to the 2zz? Apart from the manifold?
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shnazzle

Pretty much yes. Ecu would need a remap for the addition of lift
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1979scotte

Quote from: shnazzle on March 27, 2018, 15:06
Pretty much yes. Ecu would need a remap for the addition of lift

Disagree.
2zz flows much more air.
You would want a larger turbo.
Imho.
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shnazzle

Quote from: 1979scotte on March 27, 2018, 15:39
Quote from: shnazzle on March 27, 2018, 15:06
Pretty much yes. Ecu would need a remap for the addition of lift

Disagree.
2zz flows much more air.
You would want a larger turbo.
Imho.
Much more? The 2554 isn't at the top of the efficiency range on the 1zz,surely there's enough bandwidth?

If not, replacing it with Gt28 isn't too hard
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mikek

I'm still not convinced that a turbo would suit the nature of the 2ZZ. Supercharging seems the more complimentary way to go to keep the character of the engine.
2zz by Rogue. Se7en cams. BMC CDA. Competion clutches lightened flywheel, Megillian Racing Exhaust. TRD sportivo suspension and ARB\'s. TRD braces. TRD quick shift. TRD dash kit, Matts brace. Getting there but not sure when it will stop!

mikek

Dan when are you booked in to RRR?
2zz by Rogue. Se7en cams. BMC CDA. Competion clutches lightened flywheel, Megillian Racing Exhaust. TRD sportivo suspension and ARB\'s. TRD braces. TRD quick shift. TRD dash kit, Matts brace. Getting there but not sure when it will stop!

shnazzle

Quote from: mikek on March 27, 2018, 16:21
I'm still not convinced that a turbo would suit the nature of the 2ZZ. Supercharging seems the more complimentary way to go to keep the character of the engine.
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