Quote from: Joesson on May 31, 2023, 09:39@Zens said:
To refresh them I would have to have the car up on stilts/holders for a week or so, at a minimum. I have no winter set.
I had my OE wheels powder coated to choice within a day, leaving my car with them while it was done.
A friend recently had his Jaguar wheels refurbished, it took about a week but meanwhile he used a set of replacement wheels and tyres provided by the renovator.
Your location / logistics and available services would determine what is best for you.

I don't know about leaving my "rare" sports car with them. I get images of Ferris Bueller's Day Off in my head.

No chance of a car loaning service here. Places that do this kind of work will be too small for that. But I have contacted 2 people for a quote to do the job. Waiting.

Quote from: Petrus on May 31, 2023, 11:29You´re leaning to refurbished OEM. The week on blocks will get sorted. See above 

As you see by my above post, not even close to be sorted.  It's looking like it's my only choice. Given I can't even locate a full FL set to buy, so I can send them for refurbishing while the car sits on the current PFL set.

Quote from: Dev on May 31, 2023, 14:21I was at the same crossroad years ago to refinish the PFL wheels but I like the look of the FL 15/16 staggered better with the clear coated spokes instead of paint that made the car pop.
At the time the FL factory wheels in very good condition was commanding a high price that made the aftermarket more appealing for reduced weight but in the end the wheels now have worked out better for my esthetic particularly with the lip kit and offsets that even up with the fenders.

Maybe today, in the UK, you can find the FL set for a good enough price to make it worth it. But here, they are basically unobtanium. So I think it would end up not being much cheaper than buying the OZ.

By the way, are your Ultraleggeras 16x7 and 17x7? I have a dealer here who I was talking to about buying them from telling me to have the 16x7 at the rear I would have to widen the fenders to get type approval. When I brought up the fact the 16" FL OEM is also 16x7 and if the ET was the problem then, he then sidetracked and said yes, the ET being ET37 on the OZ would mean it would stick out 8mm and so would need fender widening . To me sounds like bogus. What do you guys say? I mean, my rear wheels are about 20mm inwards. So 8mm shouldn't be a problem. The FL 16" have the same ET45.

Quote from: Ardent on May 31, 2023, 22:08You could fly to the UK pick up a pair of 16s, return and refurb for way less than 1k. Bearing in mind, if I remember correctly, this is just to see if you prefer 16s.

Have you looked at what the import costs may be?
I have a set of FL 15 Fronts and 16 Rears all shod in Rainsport rubber for sale.
Choices choices

I don't see me flying to the UK to buys wheels.

I haven't looked at import costs, but should be bellow 30% total. This is how much it is from the US. Not sure what kind of deal the UK and EU got after Brexit, but I doubt it would be worse than from the US. Shipping is also the concern though.

And I saw your add for the wheels on the for sale section. But you said no posting. 

Ask J-Spec for a price delivered. They are good at shipping stuff.

Quote from: Carolyn on June  1, 2023, 11:08Ask J-Spec for a price delivered. They are good at shipping stuff.

Ok, will do. But if I Google J-Spec I get several results, including from Australia, Sweden and Switzerland.

But I guess the one you mean is probably in the UK?

Quote from: Zens on June  1, 2023, 11:21Ok, will do. But if I Google J-Spec I get several results, including from Australia, Sweden and Switzerland.

But I guess the one you mean is probably in the UK?

https://www.j-spec.co.uk/

Quote from: Zens on June  1, 2023, 11:07Not sure what kind of deal the UK and EU got after Brexit, but I doubt it would be worse than from the US. Shipping is also the concern though.

Well, it is as bad or worse. There are some treaties with the US, none with the UK.

Have you looked at breakers in Spain yet? There should be some wheels available. Want me to have a search?

Several on Wallapop:

https://es.wallapop.com/app/search?keywords=llantas%20mr2&filters_source=search_box&longitude=-3.69196&latitude=40.41956

looks new:

https://es.wallapop.com/item/llantas-860325107


p.s. same seller also offers

https://es.wallapop.com/item/escape-de-toyota-mr2-859797839

no, not homologated but still fun. I would have fiited it if a would not already have the Amuse.

Quote from: Carolyn on June  1, 2023, 11:36https://www.j-spec.co.uk/

Thanks! 

Quote from: Petrus on June  1, 2023, 11:39Well, it is as bad or worse. There are some treaties with the US, none with the UK.

Have you looked at breakers in Spain yet? There should be some wheels available. Want me to have a search?

Several on Wallapop:

https://es.wallapop.com/app/search?keywords=llantas%20mr2&filters_source=search_box&longitude=-3.69196&latitude=40.41956

looks new:

https://es.wallapop.com/item/llantas-860325107


p.s. same seller also offers

https://es.wallapop.com/item/escape-de-toyota-mr2-859797839

no, not homologated but still fun. I would have fiited it if a would not already have the Amuse.

Really? Oh boy. I haven't bought anything from the UK yet since Brexit.

Thanks for having a look. 

I think exhaust I'm fine. I have a nice dual sports exhaust and I quite like the noise it makes. 

The wheel set looks indeed like new. But it seems to be PFL?

Now is the question. Will the most likely more expensive shipping from Spain (slightly further way) still be cheaper than the importing taxes? I would say probably yes. But buying from a private person, they might not be willing to post.  So J-spec might actually end up being more handy. Let's see.

But it's a good idea to look in other parts of the EU. I just thought since the FL cars are rare around here and even in Germany I couldn't find any FL wheels, it would be the same around the EU. UK has the advantage of driving on the same side of the road as Japan. So I have the impression Japanese cars and JDM culture has always been bigger in the Uk than in Europe. Here a Lexus is an exotic luxury car!

The Wallapop ad states willing to ship. Rest is up to ..... you.


Sorry, don´t have all the answers.
Oh, UK is RHD like JDM; that´s one answer 


Whishing you luck and success from here on.

Quote from: Petrus on June  1, 2023, 12:32The Wallapop ad states willing to ship. Rest is up to ..... you.


Sorry, don´t have all the answers.
Oh, UK is RHD like JDM; that´s one answer 


Whishing you luck and success from here on.

Ah ok. I missed the shipping thing. My Spanish probably failed me. 

Yes, this is what I meant. UK being RHD like Japan, Japanese cars seem just more popular there than in the rest of Europe. At least this is my impression.

Thanks again for having a look around.

Quote from: Zens on June  1, 2023, 11:02Maybe today, in the UK, you can find the FL set for a good enough price to make it worth it. But here, they are basically unobtanium. So I think it would end up not being much cheaper than buying the OZ.

By the way, are your Ultraleggeras 16x7 and 17x7? I have a dealer here who I was talking to about buying them from telling me to have the 16x7 at the rear I would have to widen the fenders to get type approval. When I brought up the fact the 16" FL OEM is also 16x7 and if the ET was the problem then, he then sidetracked and said yes, the ET being ET37 on the OZ would mean it would stick out 8mm and so would need fender widening . To me sounds like bogus. What do you guys say? I mean, my rear wheels are about 20mm inwards. So 8mm shouldn't be a problem. The FL 16" have the same ET45.

Im from the US where we have more options without much taxation of goods.
I have now seen them being sold at a reasonable cost but most of them are not in the best condition as they were 15 years ago. Regardless I am more happy with my decision of blindly trusting a friend when I was having a difficult time making up my mind. I think the Ultraleggeras look the part if you have a lip kit and I do like them over the OEM so there is no going back. I have looked at other wheels since that look better in images like the Rays but they just don't have that eye catching 3D pop of the spoke design when you look at them on other cars especially off angle. Even the knock off wheels that try to mimic the OZ look flat in comparison.

Regarding the offsets my wheels do not stick out of the fender and I never had a rub with being as low as I am. The people that rub generally have too much wheel width and offset combined with higher sidewalls with lowering springs.

Take a look.

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Quote from: Dev on June  1, 2023, 15:04Im from the US where we have more options without much taxation of goods.
I have now seen them being sold at a reasonable cost but most of them are not in the best condition as they were 15 years ago. Regardless I am more happy with my decision of blindly trusting a friend when I was having a difficult time making up my mind. I think the Ultraleggeras look the part if you have a lip kit and I do like them over the OEM so there is no going back. I have looked at other wheels since that look better in images like the Rays but they just don't have that eye catching 3D pop of the spoke design when you look at them on other cars especially off angle. Even the knock off wheels that try to mimic the OZ look flat in comparison.

Regarding the offsets my wheels do not stick out of the fender and I never had a rub with being as low as I am. The people that rub generally have too much wheel width and offset combined with higher sidewalls with lowering springs.

Take a look.

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Thanks. This is the rear 17" wheel? Is it 17x7 ET37? So you still have a inch between tyre and fender?

Quote from: Zens on June  1, 2023, 15:40Thanks. This is the rear 17" wheel? Is it 17x7 ET37? So you still have a inch between tyre and fender?

Yes almost an inch and yes it's the 17" wheel with the 37 offset.
 
 I found something for you. The wheel size here is 17/18 but it gives you an idea how they look on a silver car with the side profile.
 

Quote from: Dev on June  1, 2023, 15:52Yes almost an inch.
 
 I found something for you. The wheel size here is 17/18 but it gives you an idea how they look on a silver car.
 

Thanks. They look good.

If you have an inch, this is basically what I have. So the ET37 vs ET45 doesn't make that much of a difference. You arguably have more than I have. An inch is 25mm. I have 20mm, so slightly under an inch. Is your offset 37?

Quote from: Zens on June  1, 2023, 16:02Thanks. They look good.

If you have an inch, this is basically what I have. So the ET37 vs ET45 doesn't make that much of a difference. You arguably have more than I have. An inch is 25mm. I have 20mm, so slightly under an inch. Is your offset 37?

Yes the offset is 37. The reason why it may appear equal to yours is primarily because when you lower the car it increases the camber pushing the top of the tire inwards. It's nothing extreme as my camber is -1.9 so even at the stock ride hight it will still tuck in the fender.

Quote from: Dev on June  1, 2023, 16:20Yes the offset is 37. The reason why it may appear equal to yours is primarily because when you lower the car it increases the camber pushing the top of the tire inwards. It's nothing extreme as my camber is -1.9 so even at the stock ride hight it will still tuck in the fender.

Ok, makes sense. But even then, does it make sense to you that at stock height, the rear fender would need widening for the OZ? I have about 20mm from tyre to fender and according to online calculators the OZ would stick out 18mm compared to stock.

Quote from: Zens on June  1, 2023, 16:50Ok, makes sense. But even then, does it make sense to you that at stock height, the rear fender would need widening for the OZ? I have about 20mm from tyre to fender and according to online calculators the OZ would stick out 18mm compared to stock.

 I cant say for sure but I think it would still be in the fender with room to spare. 
  Even if you base it on your calculations you would still have 2mm which means it will not be peaking out.
  There are a lot of other factors so the calculations probably will not be exact and in reality it will sit further in.
 We have a national online tire and wheel retailer (TireRack) that will match up the correct wheels for the car based on a number of factors. There are plenty of wheels that will fit that is not on their recommendation list for various reasons like if they stick out of the fender, rubbing or many other safety issues. The OZ wheels is in their recommended list of what fits for an OEM car so I would say it's a safe bet.

Quote from: Dev on June  1, 2023, 15:04The people that rub generally have too much wheel width and offset combined with higher sidewalls with lowering springs.

or simply rág it 
I even rubbed the inner wheel well plastic left side both front and rear all OEM in one particular open view corner with perfect camber coming up to the village.
It is two corners up from where charming company stopped recording    But at least it is horizontal so not complaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97tlU3HqnBM

Quote from: Dev on June  1, 2023, 17:37The OZ wheels is in their recommended list of what fits for an OEM car so I would say it's a safe bet.

Agreed!

Quote from: Zens on June  1, 2023, 11:02Maybe today, in the UK, you can find the FL set for a good enough price to make it worth it. But here, they are basically unobtanium. So I think it would end up not being much cheaper than buying the OZ.

By the way, are your Ultraleggeras 16x7 and 17x7? I have a dealer here who I was talking to about buying them from telling me to have the 16x7 at the rear I would have to widen the fenders to get type approval. When I brought up the fact the 16" FL OEM is also 16x7 and if the ET was the problem then, he then sidetracked and said yes, the ET being ET37 on the OZ would mean it would stick out 8mm and so would need fender widening . To me sounds like bogus. What do you guys say? I mean, my rear wheels are about 20mm inwards. So 8mm shouldn't be a problem. The FL 16" have the same ET45.

 I just re-read this out of interest because there is something odd about what the dealer is saying. 
  Just speculation on my part but I think dealer assumes that the fenders would have to be widened because he is making an unfounded assumption the OEM wheels are at the same level as the fender and buying a negative offset wheel or even a wider wheel will push it out past the fender. He has no way of knowing how the OEM wheel sits relative to the fender without measuring it.

Ok some updates. It's looking more and more like I will get me some rear FL 16" wheels.

For the tyre list, anybody has experience with the Pirelli PZero Nero GT?

Quote from: Zens on June  9, 2023, 23:48Ok some updates. It's looking more and more like I will get me some rear FL 16" wheels.

For the tyre list, anybody has experience with the Pirelli PZero Nero GT?

You continue to come up with strange questions.  According to what I read, it's not made in a 215/45/16,  & not made in 15" at all....

Unless you are familiar with a particular tyre, it's not a risky idea to mix brands on a 2.  The choices are limited for tyres made the 2's FL sizes.  If you want a tyre for regular road use that'll cope with rain, Falken ZE310 & Hankook Ventus K125 fare well in tyre tests.  You might have tyres available on the Continent that we don't have here though?

Quote from: Gaz mr-s on June 10, 2023, 00:32You continue to come up with strange questions.  According to what I read, it's not made in a 215/45/16,  & not made in 15" at all....

Unless you are familiar with a particular tyre, it's not a risky idea to mix brands on a 2.  The choices are limited for tyres made the 2's FL sizes.  If you want a tyre for regular road use that'll cope with rain, Falken ZE310 & Hankook Ventus K125 fare well in tyre tests.  You might have tyres available on the Continent that we don't have here though?

Hmm, I had taken a quick look, the moment I found out about them and it seems it was available in 185/55/15 and 215/45/16. But it was a very quick look at a single retailer online configurator, as at this point I'm basically looking for excuses not to buy either the Michelin or the Yoko AD08RS.

But please do tell about the strange questions I've been asking. If I'm ware of what is strange I might learn from it. I'm always on the lookout for learning opportunities.

Quote from: Zens on June 10, 2023, 08:48as at this point I'm basically looking for excuses not to buy either the Michelin or the Yoko AD08RS.

Why? Earlier this week I had some fun putting the hammer down in the rain here. The yearly inspection means I have a ceteris paribus befor & after & back agian and this year it was with proper rain. The AD08RS is súch a predictable tyre with for a summer tyre surprising wet grip. Imo it is thé best compromise for this car, in the correct size and at a reasonable (álmost ore Covid) price.