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Title: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Nunfa1 on January 20, 2018, 12:21
Hi everyone,
well after 4 years of relatively trouble free motoring, just the odd handbrake and o2 sensor issues, she finally gave up last night. Driving home from work, turned right in second gear went to accelerate up the hill and came to a shuddering halt. Rear wheels completely seized and gearbox stuck in second gear. Wasn't fun that's for sure.
car is home now, just need to get it on the drive. Will probably get some wheel dollies rather than try the more imaginative suggestions offered on the FB page.  s:D :D s:D  
After that I suppose it's gearbox and clutch out, anyone have any links on a how to for the removal?
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: 1979scotte on January 20, 2018, 13:16
That's a pretty big deal.
Did you need a new pair of pants?
Glad you're ok.
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Nunfa1 on January 20, 2018, 13:44
Quote from: "1979scotte"That's a pretty big deal.
Did you need a new pair of pants?
Glad you're ok.

Haha, yeah I'm good thanks. Was only going slow & sensible so it wasn't too big a deal. It's only when you think about the fact you were  doing 70 along a dual carriage way 5 minutes earlier that things get a bit scary.
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Joesson on January 20, 2018, 13:52
That happened to a work colleague in the 60' s, drained the motor bike ( gear box) oil, took it out for a " test run" on the local dual carriageway ( Chertsey by pass) changed into top and thought " new oil?". He was hospitalised but lived to walk and tell the tale.
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: 1979scotte on January 20, 2018, 15:41
Quote from: "Joesson"That happened to a work colleague in the 60' s, drained the motor bike ( gear box) oil, took it out for a " test run" on the local dual carriageway ( Chertsey by pass) changed into top and thought " new oil?". He was hospitalised but lived to walk and tell the tale.

****!!!
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: jonbill on January 20, 2018, 18:28
Quote from: "Joesson"That happened to a work colleague in the 60' s, drained the motor bike ( gear box) oil, took it out for a " test run" on the local dual carriageway ( Chertsey by pass) changed into top and thought " new oil?". He was hospitalised but lived to walk and tell the tale.

I had a rather similar experience 20 odd years ago on a Ducati,  Alternator changed at dealer service, 2 days later on the M1 the new alternator fell off and jammed the crank. Apparently completely coincidental.   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Ardent on January 20, 2018, 18:39
Nunfa1
Drop me a pm with an email address
Have a couple of docs you might find helpful
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Joesson on January 20, 2018, 18:55
Quote from: "jonbill"
Quote from: "Joesson"That happened to a work colleague in the 60' s, drained the motor bike ( gear box) oil, took it out for a " test run" on the local dual carriageway ( Chertsey by pass) changed into top and thought " new oil?". He was hospitalised but lived to walk and tell the tale.

I had a rather similar experience 20 odd years ago on a Ducati,  Alternator changed at dealer service, 2 days later on the M1 the new alternator fell off and jammed the crank. Apparently completely coincidental.   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:


Ardent, there's that word again!
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Ardent on January 20, 2018, 19:19
it's a sign.
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Ardent on January 21, 2018, 10:37
Nunfa1

you have post
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: krazysteve on January 21, 2018, 11:04
Same happened to mine, doing 70 ish, RAC got me home, after rocking it back n forth, might need a couple of helpers it came free.
I  ragged mine up the drive with a 250hp Forester.  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  
When box was removed and stripped, 2nd motion shaft bearing had failed.
 m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CYmhqVsgpk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CYmhqVsgpk) m
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: McMr2 on January 21, 2018, 20:27
Any warning signs in either case?
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: krazysteve on January 21, 2018, 23:37
Quote from: "McMr2"Any warning signs in either case?
Yeah mine started to whine on and off after some frisky driving when we went to the Ring.
Lasted about 3k more before locking up, seconds before whined like mad then some poo came out as i was on fast left hand bend.  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  
Oh did change oil when back from Germany it had a burnt smell and was black, was changed only the year before that with MT90.
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: McMr2 on January 22, 2018, 00:02
Scary stuff, not really what you want on a fast left hander. Or any bend for that matter.
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Nunfa1 on February 17, 2018, 12:07
Well the car has gone in, didn't fancy doing it myself. New clutch to be fitted and a replacement gearbox. Fingers crossed that's all it is.
Managed to free it up and get it out of gear by rocking backwards and forwards, didn't sound great when it pulled on to the recovery truck though. 
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: K T M Rider on February 17, 2018, 14:29
So now I've found your thread :-) was just wondering how many miles on your car and any gbox oil changes to your knowledge?
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Nunfa1 on February 17, 2018, 15:52
Quote from: KTM_Rider on February 17, 2018, 14:29
So now I've found your thread :-) was just wondering how many miles on your car and any gbox oil changes to your knowledge?
95k miles with full service history. I changed the gearbox oil for MT90 at about 80k
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: K T M Rider on February 20, 2018, 16:11
Quote from: Nunfa1 on February 17, 2018, 15:52
Quote from: KTM_Rider on February 17, 2018, 14:29
So now I've found your thread :-) was just wondering how many miles on your car and any gbox oil changes to your knowledge?
95k miles with full service history. I changed the gearbox oil for MT90 at about 80k

Sounds slightly unlucky - my sister's 2 is on 105k and pretty sure original box and oil (just told her to get the gbox oil done at next service).

Still here's to the next 95k  :)
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: Nunfa1 on March 5, 2018, 14:01
Got the car back today and it's purring like a kitten  :)
Old gearbox still had oil in it so must've just been an internal failure. It had been wearing for a while if the lack of noise coming from the back now is anything to go by. Fingers crossed the replacement will last me a bit longer.
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: delhusband on March 6, 2018, 07:51
Good news :)  that sounded like a pretty horrific type of failure
Title: Re: Wheels seized, gearbox failure?
Post by: m1tch on March 6, 2018, 12:31
Quote from: Nunfa1 on March  5, 2018, 14:01
Got the car back today and it's purring like a kitten  :)
Old gearbox still had oil in it so must've just been an internal failure. It had been wearing for a while if the lack of noise coming from the back now is anything to go by. Fingers crossed the replacement will last me a bit longer.

Perhaps crack the box open and see what its like? You can then pull out the LSD and sell it on to recoup some costs!