How many miles has have you guys driven on one full tank of fuel.. I've got about 208 miles on one tank using the standard unleaded from Shell.... Also does anyone use the more expensive type of Petrol in their car? If you do how many miles do you on a full tank and do you notice any real differences from the standard unleaded??
I tend to get around 300 miles between fillups. That's using Tesco NUL, commuting to and from work 12 miles each way, with no major runs at the weekends. I think I normally put in somewhere between 35 and 40 litres when I fill her back up again, which is normally somewhere between the bottom line and 1/4 of a tank.
QuoteI tend to get around 300 miles between fillups.
Wow Hanslow, i suppose you drive really slowly.... and don't have a heavy foot. How anyone else???
When I was N/A I got around 320 miles, now I am turbo it is at least equal if not better ('normal' driving and motoway as opposed to mental) and around 280~300 when on boost a lot with urban driving thrown in.
Strangely my car has always been really economical, Markiii's isn't anywhere near as efficient as mine when we did comparisons.
I get around 300 miles from a tank and I drive it like I stole it s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
I was getting around 200, but then I reset the ECU and enjoyed both a more responsive, powerful and increased MPG.
I tend to use brand name normal unleaded (same price as the supermarkets at my usual stations).
Quote from: "rainmen23"Wow Hanslow, i suppose you drive really slowly.... and don't have a heavy foot. How anyone else???
s:P :P s:P
See the other posts....it's not just me s;) ;) s;)
Are you driving with both feet on the loud pedal? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
hand up 2 u Hanslow
Though bongo
how do I reset the ECU ???
Long motorway runs with the roof down, I get about 300 to a tank (that's cruising at about 90ish)..
Roof up or slower (50-60mph up the M1, say) I can get 330-350 to a tank..
Round town, a smidge under 300, I'd say.
Any large figure speeds are km/h, naturally. Cough.
Somebody look up the volume of the tank s:wink: :wink: s:wink: and i can do some maths. Always fill up around the 1/4 mark or above.
Since the Unichip (pity I didn't do it before) I have been keeping accurate records, and my overall on Optimax is 32mpg. Has varied between 24 and 36.
Anybody got similar comparisons, don't know if thats good, bad or indifferent s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
I'm more interested in knowing how to reset the ECU on the car at the moment
Quote from: "roger"Anybody got similar comparisons, don't know if thats good, bad or indifferent s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
I worked mine out on a couple of long runs (Sheffield & back), and on the slower journeys it came out to about 36mpg, while on the quicker journey about 30mpg.
The tank is fairly small, IIRC..
I usually fill up at around 320miles, though I reckon it'd last another 20 or so. Last time I worked out the mpg it was just over 37.
Quote from: "rainmen23"I'm more interested in knowing how to reset the ECU on the car at the moment
Disconnect battery for 20 minutes!
I race something from every set of lights and most of my driving is either crawling along in traffic or nailing it down dual carriage ways and I get 30-32mpg which I think is pretty good considering my poor driving.
When I did Bruntingthorpe I started with just under 3/4 of a tank, drove from Birmingham to Bruntingthorpe(other side of Leicester) 90 mph with roof down, dids loads of laps with the engine screaming in every gear, drove home 90 mph with roof down and still had enough fuel for a couple of trips to work
it really can't be the simple can it
Quoterainmen23 wrote:
I'm more interested in knowing how to reset the ECU on the car at the moment
Disconnect battery for 20 minutes!
yes it can
Quote from: "rainmen23"it really can't be the simple can it
Quoterainmen23 wrote:
I'm more interested in knowing how to reset the ECU on the car at the moment
Disconnect battery for 20 minutes!
Yep. Careful though, you will loose all your radio setting as well.
If you have a unichip you just have to flick a switch!
As to milage I tend to bounce around the 280 mark (filling up when just above the redline) although for some reason, on a trip back from sommerset on the bankholiday weekend I managed 345 before filling up. Needle was on the red when I noticed it as I joined the motorway to work. I think the last few miles were done by my sweat alone! s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Simon
Does resetting the ECU affect the immobiliser at all?
do you have to mess about with putting codes in and stuff, or does it just 'work' when you press lock/unlock on the key?
Ok call me thick if you like.
though let me tell you my situation.. The only thing I've changed on my car is the wheels... (17" if your asking with 205/40/17 in the front and 215/40/17 in the back) and put petrol in the car and drive it.
Can u guys tell me whats a Unichip?? and does my car have an ECU??
Works fine with mine. (a 2000 uk car)
While you have the battery off, you can clean the MAF as well.
Search for Cleaning and MAF should get you the info on how too.
Simon
http://www.spydermagazine.com/2002/March/maf_clean/maf_clean.htm
Thanks for that
I'll give it a tiry tonight and I'll be topping u the car with the good old "go go juice"
Quote from: "rainmen23"Ok call me thick if you like.
Can u guys tell me whats a Unichip?? and does my car have an ECU??
Don't worry, we all start somewhere. The Search button is good if you become stuck on anything.
A Unichip is a programmable chip made by Dastek that "fits" alongside the ECU - provides more power etc.
The ECU is behind the bulkhead, in the passenger cubbie hole behind the seat.
Quote from: "rainmen23"... and does my car have an ECU??
ECU (electronic control unit? possibly s:oops: :oops: s:oops: ) takes info from the sensors (like the MAF) and decides how the engine is running and wether to change stuff to make it run better.
Wow technical aren't I. I am sure somone else can come up with a better explanation than me.
Simon
Quote from: "SimonC_Here"ECU (electronic control unit? possibly s:oops: :oops: s:oops: )
Generally ECU means just that, but often the engine ecu is also short for engine control unit.
Quotetakes info from the sensors (like the MAF) and decides how the engine is running and wether to change stuff to make it run better.
While that's completely true, I think a simple description would be that it just controls the engine s;) ;) s;) Opening injectors, firing spark plugs and stuff s8) 8) s8)
Never measured the range on the tank, or the mpg. And more to the point, couldn't care less. Thats not why I bought the car.
I use Super Unleaded exclusivley, change the air filter and clean the MAF every 5000 miles, and never have the tank above half full unless going on a long journey, as I'd rather save the weight.
Quote from: "Tem"Opening injectors, firing spark plugs and stuff s8) 8) s8)
See stuff. s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Simon
I think the petrol tank capacity is 48 litres (just under 11 imp gallons).
I was quite pleased when I managed 160 miles on 20 litres (the fuel guage was read half full) on my recent trip down thro' France..(autoroutes at about 80-85mph). In total 1750 miles was roughly 230 litres, about 34mpg. That included a fairly lame (but fun s:lol: :lol: s:lol: ) night time Ronin moment thro' the tunnels south of Charles De Gaule airport...(want to see/hear the video?)
Ed
Running map B all the time my last fill up was 35 litres at exactly 300 miles, the conversion makes it 7.7 gallons which converts to 38.9 mpg s:shock: :shock: s:shock: (No! I don't drive like a granny!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: )
I've only been checking out of curiosity, since I fitted the chip it usually returns 34 mpg but I recently took the it out for the last service before it runs out of warranty, that figure is since re-fitting the chip and letting it settle in.
As far as running on map A at Bruntingthorpe goes, I really wish I had filled up at lunch time because it certainly driks at a healthy rate. When I left the site my fuel light was on and got lost looking for the filling station and ended up back at the airfield s:? :? s:? I eventually found one after about 35 miles!! s:P :P s:P
Quote from: "Les"Running map B all the time my last fill up was 35 litres at exactly 300 miles, the conversion makes it 7.7 gallons which converts to 38.9 mpg s:shock: :shock: s:shock: (No! I don't drive like a granny!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: )
I've only been checking out of curiosity, since I fitted the chip it usually returns 34 mpg but I recently took the it out for the last service before it runs out of warranty, that figure is since re-fitting the chip and letting it settle in.
s:P :P s:P
I get lower than that with the chip and do long runs down the motorway; average 30mpg but I do boot it a lot once warmed up of course s:? :? s:?
I get about 280 from a tank of fuel.
If you want to reset the ECU without loosing the radio settings just pull the ECU fuse out for 20 mins s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Lee where is the fuse???
Quote from: "rainmen23"Lee where is the fuse???
great minds think alike!!! s8) 8) s8) s:D :D s:D s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
in the interests of science s:?: :?: s:?: (and this thread) i worked out my mpg heres what i got;
Motorway (steady 75-80ish mph) 37.5mpg
Town 27mpg
'enjoying' my favorite roads..... wait for it 18mpg s:!: :!: s:!: s:!: :!: s:!:
My engine is completely standard by the way
Quote from: "rainmen23"Lee where is the fuse???
easiest way is to just disconnect the battery for 20mins
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "rainmen23"Lee where is the fuse???
easiest way is to just disconnect the battery for 20mins
I think they are after this:
Quote from: "LeeUK"If you want to reset the ECU without loosing the radio settings just pull the ECU fuse out for 20 mins s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "Tem"Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "rainmen23"Lee where is the fuse???
easiest way is to just disconnect the battery for 20mins
I think they are after this:
Quote from: "LeeUK"If you want to reset the ECU without loosing the radio settings just pull the ECU fuse out for 20 mins s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Yes, but at the end of the day its just as easy putting the radio settings back as with hunting the correct fuses out. If my memory serves me right you have to pull two fuses not one.
Quote from: "heathstimpson"Quote from: "Tem"Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "rainmen23"Lee where is the fuse???
easiest way is to just disconnect the battery for 20mins
I think they are after this:
Quote from: "LeeUK"If you want to reset the ECU without loosing the radio settings just pull the ECU fuse out for 20 mins s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Yes, but at the end of the day its just as easy putting the radio settings back as with hunting the correct fuses out. If my memory serves me right you have to pull two fuses not one.
yeah you're right Heath, but i'll be buggered if i can remember where they are
Quote from: "heathstimpson"Yes, but at the end of the day its just as easy putting the radio settings back
Depends from the radio s;) ;) s;)
I used to have a radio with tons of features, like automated volume control, which required you to teach the radio where you idle, what revs you consider low and which high...not to mention setting all the filters, outputs, inputs and whatever.
(and I never even used the radio)
Don't remember where the fuses are, but IIRC they are marked on the inside cover of the boxes.
There are 3 fuses labelled ECU in the fuse box in the engine bay and by the passenger door. I pulled them all for 24hours and the ECU didn't reset though.
Since getting my car tuned last week I have got 168 miles to one tank s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Dastek is set to it's richest point because of my intake setup s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Just got back from a trip to the Lake District. The wife and I shared some of the driving on the way up and, over mostly motorway and A road, including some pootling round the lakes (total 280 miles) it averaged, wait for it..........
40 mpg s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
I thought the fuel gauge had broken as it wasn't far below half with 280 miles on the trip counter lol. Thats a potential range of 400 miles!!!! Haven't filled up yet after the return trip (which was done a lot faster with a lot more stationary motorway traffic - how DO people crash on a straight road s:roll: :roll: s:roll: ) but it looks like it's done about 35.
Almost makes 87 pence a litre seem bearable.
Quote from: "proeliator2001"Almost makes 87 pence a litre seem bearable
but i bet its a lot lest bearable on the twisties when having a bit of fun s:? :? s:?
The fuel gauge isn't linear, so you shouldn't calculate mpg when you're somewhere in the middle s;) ;) s;)
As I work for HM Customs I work all over the country, and Since I bought my 2 In October 2003 I have done 34,500!
I keep a record of of my milage and fuel recipts and I have averaged 41MPG. The most i have ever travelled on one tank is 385miles.
Mark
Having now filled up again, it actually averaged 39.7 mpg over 600 miles - bloody amazing imo.
Re the comment above, it is indeed easier to bear 87 pence a litre when nailing it through the twisties but it would still be nice if we weren't taxed quite so highly on fuel.
Quote from: "proeliator2001"but it would still be nice if we weren't taxed quite so highly on fuel.
and that is a totally different subject and one that i'm sure we all agree on. It's time as well that the Goverment addressed it properly instead of continueing to penalise the small guy/girl for owning a vehicle, unfortunatley with the continueing climate issues i personally beleive that the Goverment will use it as an excuse to bend us over the bonnett and take us from behind!!! s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
Just got back from Portsmouth (the IFOS event)
285 miles 4 hours 35 litres = 37.5 MPG s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "Les"285 miles 4 hours 35 litres = 37.5 MPG s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Only 37.5? Where was the fire, Mr Senna? s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
i managed to get through 43litres for 125miles the other day, guess this has to be as cr*p as it gets s:? :? s:?
thats 13.2mpg s:!: :!: s:!: s:( :( s:(
Quote from: "kanujunkie"thats 13.2mpg s:!: :!: s:!: s:( :( s:(
Now that's the first mpg that actually belongs to PERFORMANCE area s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "Bongo"There are 3 fuses labelled ECU in the fuse box in the engine bay and by the passenger door. I pulled them all for 24hours and the ECU didn't reset though.
How do you know when the ECU resets anyway?
(not just you, but in general)
I've had the battery off for several months twice and it didn't seem like the ECU reset itself. It started just fine and felt just like it used to, as far as I can remember. Same goes for shorter battery removals, I can't see any difference to what it was like before the assumed reset.
But I've had this happen twice now. In both cases the stock ECU has been off car for a year or so, several months anyway, while I've had the PFC in the car. When I put the stock ECU in the car, it pretty much refused to drive during the first 10 mins or so and wouldn't rev past 3000rpm even when floored. Instead it did what I can only imagine of being learning the idle. Bouncing between 500-2000rpm, sometimes slower, sometimes faster. And going VERY low on the revs, lower than it ever does during normal behaviour, even when it's going down enough to make the car vibrate and feel like the engine would stall.
Real reset perhaps?
I had a CEL (caused by user error), pulling the fuses didn't clear it, pulling the battery did.
The butt dyno noticed better performance after this and MPG improved aswell. Previous attempts with fuses led to no such gain.
Quote from: "Tem"Quote from: "kanujunkie"thats 13.2mpg s:!: :!: s:!: s:( :( s:(
Now that's the first mpg that actually belongs to PERFORMANCE area s;) ;) s;)
bingo, trackday mpg s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I do a lot of miles so have to watch my fuel bill (one of the main reasons for buying the 2 - good fun and good mpg). I live in the country so don't do any town or motorway miles:
most litres at fillup was: 387
highest mpg was: 39.9
lowest mpg: 34
average mpg over 10k miles: 36.88
Altogether, I am very happy with the result.
James
Quote from: "jamesn"most litres at fillup was: 387
James
how much! is your car attached to a petrol tanker? s:?: :?: s:?: s:!: :!: s:!: s:?: :?: s:?: s:!: :!: s:!:
i guess that should read most miles?
38.7 would be my guess s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I`m currently on 369 miles on one tank of petrol, the fuel warning light came on 4 miles from my home last night, should really fill up s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
The last few months I`ve been using a 97 octane petrol, dunno if it is me or not but it does seem to go that little further. Before anyone says it... I don`t drive granny style, I do have my red line moments round the country roads s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D Fuel economy probably wasn`t on my mind when buying the 2, just an added bonus in my eyes, better than any car I`ve owned before.
Yes, 387 miles s8) 8) s8)
I suppose that at 40mpg the '2 should be easily able to pass the 400 mile mark on a tank.
I do have a habit of running the tank dry though. I ran out of petrol completely a few weeks ago at the 360 mile mark. s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
James
i've met so many people quoting various figures for mileage that were heaps higher than mine till i realised they'd top up at the yellow light and add some random figure to the miles done. i always thought there was somehting wrong with my car...
with a PE turbo and a usually heavy foot i do around 200 miles till the point the yellow light comes on, but on hughway drives that rises to 250 miles. bear in mind i have lead weighted feet s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: