My Sable 2005 MR2 - shnazzle

[manos3003]

Yes. A few.
Murky coolant, two of spark plugs show soot, I've never seen it run due to a fuel pump issue, and oil was just below minimum line haha

Aside from that, it's all good hahaha

Seems healthy as a horse (1, not all 190 of them)   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Murky coolant = Head gasket? I'd start there at least

Soot can be the cause of misfires, but ultimately not the root cause of the problem. Maybe you need to have a look at the air/fuel ratio when it's actually running.

Fuel pump isn't very expensive to replace.

Oil, you could do with a top-up.

Simples!   s:D s:D

Yup. Head gasket is my guess. Especially as oil was low as well. So that's an easy fix with the block out, but just need to hope no damage was done.

I suspect misfires are indeed the cause of the sooty plugs simply because they had no other deposits/oil on them. I wish I could get the full freeze frame data so that I could see what the LTFT and STFT was at the time the codes came up.

Oil has been topped up and fuel pump (10 quid) should arrive today  s:) s:)
Hopefully that'll get the car to at least run. Then I can charge the battery up a bit and do a compression test. Not enough power left in the battery at the minute to crank it for a compression test.

Nice one chap! Seems you're on top of things.  s:) s:)

With the head out, it's a good chance to see imperfections and assess whether there's any need to skim it so it fits nicely on the block. No need to port, this engine is very good on air-flow, porting can be disastrous on a 2ZZ-GE if done wrong.

Sooty plugs could be for a number of reasons  that would mess up the air/fuel ratio (e.g. poorly set after-market injectors). A snapshot of the ECU with all DTCs would give you some rough guidance to begin with, I'd agree on that.

[shnazzle]

With the head out, it's a good chance to see imperfections and assess whether there's any need to skim it so it fits nicely on the block. No need to port, this engine is very good on air-flow, porting can be disastrous on a 2ZZ-GE if done wrong.

Interesting. I was considering doing some porting, especially as the manifolds do seem a bit messy from factory. But I wouldn't want to mess it up. I'll leave it for the sake of a couple of horses  s:) s:)
I hope it doesn't require a skim. replacing the gasket is one thing. Dismantling the whole damn thing to send off for a skimming is a whole other thing. Then I might as well send it as-is and have them machine the whole lot, replace rings, etc etc.

[manos3003]

Interesting. I was considering doing some porting, especially as the manifolds do seem a bit messy from factory. But I wouldn't want to mess it up. I'll leave it for the sake of a couple of horses  s:) s:)
I hope it doesn't require a skim. replacing the gasket is one thing. Dismantling the whole damn thing to send off for a skimming is a whole other thing. Then I might as well send it as-is and have them machine the whole lot, replace rings, etc etc.

Seems quite the faff to try and rescue the engine, but since you already have a donor engine, if you can save it you might as well try.

[shnazzle]

So another unsuccessful day with the Celica.
Got the seats out, which looks great with the exception of one small hole on the drivers side. Can fix that. They're really comfy actually so might fit these in the mr2 for a while to see what they're like.
If I like them, they're keepers!

In the 2zz...still need to change the fuel pump as the one in there is knackered due to water ingress.
Sodding screws are seized solid so couldn't remove it  s:( s:(

[manos3003]

So another unsuccessful day with the Celica.
Got the seats out, which looks great with the exception of one small hole on the drivers side. Can fix that. They're really comfy actually so might fit these in the mr2 for a while to see what they're like.
If I like them, they're keepers!

In the 2zz...still need to change the fuel pump as the one in there is knackered due to water ingress.
Sodding screws are seized solid so couldn't remove it  s:( s:(

Nice seats, currently pondering whether to get some celica ones or some aftermarket ones.

As for the screws, cut them, re-thread the holes and use shiny new ones  s:) s:)

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The problem is Manos that I'd rather not create sparks so close to the fuel tank  s:) s:)

[manos3003]

The problem is Manos that I'd rather not create sparks so close to the fuel tank  s:) s:)

Might be your last resort if penetrating fluid and some heat don't do the job.

[shnazzle]

The problem is Manos that I'd rather not create sparks so close to the fuel tank  s:) s:)

Might be your last resort if penetrating fluid and some heat don't do the job.

Might be the last thing I ever do!

[manos3003]

The problem is Manos that I'd rather not create sparks so close to the fuel tank  s:) s:)

Might be your last resort if penetrating fluid and some heat don't do the job.

Might be the last thing I ever do!

Chillax!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:   Drain the fuel out of the tank to minimise the risk of going ka-boom and you're good!  s:D s:D

Might need to let the fumes out as well, gas with heat is even worse!

[shnazzle]

Starting to think this was a mistake.

Anybody else want to try their luck on this Celica?  s:) s:)  
I cant be arsed haha

[Jrichards20]

Starting to think this was a mistake.

Anybody else want to try their luck on this Celica?  s:) s:)  
I cant be arsed haha

Oh no, don't give up. Hold on to it, do little bits at a time and wait for a cheap SC to pop up. Whack that on with it and you have a beast, and then, it will all be worth it!   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

[shnazzle]

Starting to think this was a mistake.

Anybody else want to try their luck on this Celica?  s:) s:)  
I cant be arsed haha

Oh no, don't give up. Hold on to it, do little bits at a time and wait for a cheap SC to pop up. Whack that on with it and you have a beast, and then, it will all be worth it!   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

I need the drive clear. That's the problem. And on top of that, the Audi now has a parking sensor fault AND the passenger window cable snapped.
You know what they say...when it rains.

Goal for today/tomorrow is to get the car running. If it runs and sounds ok, I'll rip the engine out of the front of the car and call the scrappy for the rest.

Seats will be sold. Not taking any dibs as of yet obviously

[jeffsimply]

Starting to think this was a mistake.

Anybody else want to try their luck on this Celica?  s:) s:)  
I cant be arsed haha

This £350 engine and box turning out to be a bit more expensive mate?   s:flame: :flame: s:flame:  

Seriously though, definitely stay at it. Get the engine and box out. Put it on an engine stand and get rid of the Celica shell, wait a few weeks and I all but guarantee you'll get excited about putting it in again.

I'm going to wait a couple of months (going to take me a while to get my chassis stuff sorted anyway) and then have someone do the 2ZZ swap for me unless I spot another SP or TTE turbo on eBay for reasonable money in the meantime. Perfect excuse to have a gearbox refurbished too so you have a lovely 'as new' box for the foreseeable future.

[shnazzle]

Starting to think this was a mistake.

Anybody else want to try their luck on this Celica?  s:) s:)  
I cant be arsed haha

This £350 engine and box turning out to be a bit more expensive mate?   s:flame: :flame: s:flame:  

Seriously though, definitely stay at it. Get the engine and box out. Put it on an engine stand and get rid of the Celica shell, wait a few weeks and I all but guarantee you'll get excited about putting it in again.

I'm going to wait a couple of months (going to take me a while to get my chassis stuff sorted anyway) and then have someone do the 2ZZ swap for me unless I spot another SP or TTE turbo on eBay for reasonable money in the meantime. Perfect excuse to have a gearbox refurbished too so you have a lovely 'as new' box for the foreseeable future.

It was 300 quid  s:) s:)  haha. But I have spent another 60 or so on oil, coolant (which it didn't end up needing in the end), spark plugs and a fuel pump. Now I need to get some Irwin bolt removers, so that's another 20 but that's just adding to the arsenal so that's ok.
Basically if I can get it running tonight, it's a keeper, if not, I'm binning it.

[shnazzle]

Fuel pump changed.

.. Nothing. Battery shows next to nothing.
Borrowed a battery charger so I'll try later tonight. If it doesn't start. I'll check fuses and if they're all good,calling scrappy tomorrow

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Battery charged.
It's definitely fueling this time. Pulled a plug and it was wet and smelled of fresh fuel. WOuld have a hard time smelling of any other fuel as they're brand new.

Now there;s no spark!

Phase 2...find why no spark.

[manos3003]

Battery charged.
It's definitely fueling this time. Pulled a plug and it was wet and smelled of fresh fuel. WOuld have a hard time smelling of any other fuel as they're brand new.

Now there;s no spark!

Phase 2...find why no spark.

Happened to my Corolla. 2 things to check.

1. Starter motor
2. Immobilizer

[shnazzle]

Battery charged.
It's definitely fueling this time. Pulled a plug and it was wet and smelled of fresh fuel. WOuld have a hard time smelling of any other fuel as they're brand new.

Now there;s no spark!

Phase 2...find why no spark.

Happened to my Corolla. 2 things to check.

1. Starter motor
2. Immobilizer

IT does crank, so it's not the stater motor, and the block's not seized  s:) s:)
As for immobilizer...interesting...how would I go about checking this? THe keys are knacked. I can unlock the car with the button though, so that should turn off the immob

[manos3003]

Battery charged.
It's definitely fueling this time. Pulled a plug and it was wet and smelled of fresh fuel. WOuld have a hard time smelling of any other fuel as they're brand new.

Now there;s no spark!

Phase 2...find why no spark.

Happened to my Corolla. 2 things to check.

1. Starter motor
2. Immobilizer

IT does crank, so it's not the stater motor, and the block's not seized  s:) s:)
As for immobilizer...interesting...how would I go about checking this? THe keys are knacked. I can unlock the car with the button though, so that should turn off the immob

In my case, I could unlock the car, but immobilizer light didn't switch off when I put key in the ignition. Maybe immobilizer lost memory?

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I'm really stumped now.
Can MAF issue stop a car from starting?
Just checked codes and I think it's just making stuff up as it goes along now.

I had codes P0300, P0301 for misfires, P0411 for Secondary Air Injector. Now I've got just MAF codes P0100 and intake air temp circuit P0110. I doubt I knacked both sensors of the MAF when I Cleaned it, and an IAC code...

Still no go. Fueling absolutely fine now. I can smell it,

The "Security" light goes off whne I put the key in. ANd when I unlock the car the other security light stops blinking. How else can I test immobiliser?
Or...what else could it be?!?!?
Ive tried starting the car with a bit of throttle in case the IAC is not letting air in.

[shnazzle]

Rag lost. 2ZZ is up for grabs for someone who has patience, space and time. Seats also up for sale separately.

Also..don't buy expensive cars.
Passenger door regulator went on the Audi..guess how much that costs to fix?  285 quid... TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE quid. For a bit of metal cable and plastic. That's fitted. And under the table. 341 inc vat if done properly.
Audi is going out the door. Long live old DIY cars.

[1979scotte]

Rag lost. 2ZZ is up for grabs for someone who has patience, space and time. Seats also up for sale separately.

Also..don't buy expensive cars.
Passenger door regulator went on the Audi..guess how much that costs to fix?  285 quid... TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE quid. For a bit of metal cable and plastic. That's fitted. And under the table. 341 inc vat if done properly.
Audi is going out the door. Long live old DIY cars.

Why do you think i gave up Mercs and BMWs for a mondeo? (Wife hated it until traded for the 2)
Tired of paying the earth for everything.
I have my 2 and the use of a 19 year old polo. ( £200 60k miles 1 owner years mot)
Will do me nicely thank you.

[shnazzle]

Rag lost. 2ZZ is up for grabs for someone who has patience, space and time. Seats also up for sale separately.

Also..don't buy expensive cars.
Passenger door regulator went on the Audi..guess how much that costs to fix?  285 quid... TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE quid. For a bit of metal cable and plastic. That's fitted. And under the table. 341 inc vat if done properly.
Audi is going out the door. Long live old DIY cars.

Why do you think i gave up Mercs and BMWs for a mondeo? (Wife hated it until traded for the 2)
Tired of paying the earth for everything.
I have my 2 and the use of a 19 year old polo. ( £200 60k miles 1 owner years mot)
Will do me nicely thank you.

Yeah we're selling the Audi asap and getting a nice Mazda5 instead. We had an 06 about 5 years ago and it was absolutely fantastic. So, sticking with a winning formula

[StuC]

I feel your pain on the Audi stuff fella. Recently had to get 2 x drive shafts... £300... Each!

Also had to change a cam chain tensioner.  That was £400, which btw I needed 2 off as well. Blasted v6!!  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

[shnazzle]

I feel your pain on the Audi stuff fella. Recently had to get 2 x drive shafts... £300... Each!

Also had to change a cam chain tensioner.  That was £400, which btw I needed 2 off as well. Blasted v6!!  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

Indeed!
Thats the thing we'll miss. That 3.0 v6 is beautiful. Easily the best engine I've driven.
Im sure we'll find other ways to get our power kick  s:) s:)   s:) s:)