Tyres

uncletravellingmatt · March 31, 2018, 19:34

Decided to go for ToyoT1Rs, as recommended. Ain't got a hard-top. so please don't "shoot me down like a dog" (apols to Django and Christoph Waltz!

uncletravellingmatt · April 6, 2018, 11:37

Me again. Re advice given - spoken with Camskills and they report that Toyo proxes T1R tyres were discontinued years ago, the same for the Bridgstone Potenzas. They suggest the Uniroyal (made by Continental) Rain Sport 3 tyres (A rated in the wet, against E for the T1Rs - technology has moved on. they say). Anyone got any experience with a roadster on Uniroyal Rain Sport 3's?

1979scotte · April 6, 2018, 12:22

Rainsport are an excellent tyre.
Wouldn't worry to much about the ratings they give with tyres.
AD08R have more grip than anything else I have tried and don't rate to well.
How about some Falken ZE 914 quite a few members have tried them. Good for the money.

MR TWO · April 6, 2018, 12:34

Quote from: uncletravellingmatt on April 6, 2018, 11:37
Me again. Re advice given - spoken with Camskills and they report that Toyo proxes T1R tyres were discontinued years ago, the same for the Bridgstone Potenzas. They suggest the Uniroyal (made by Continental) Rain Sport 3 tyres (A rated in the wet, against E for the T1Rs - technology has moved on. they say). Anyone got any experience with a roadster on Uniroyal Rain Sport 3's?

Did you ask whether Camskills who have probably sold thousands of T1r tyres are now out of stock and selling something else on which they get a better margin?

LydonB · April 6, 2018, 12:45

Did you check if you like the Toyo R1R s? Have them on one of mine and they have some serious grip on dry.

Quite good on wet roads as well, car comes back quickly after it sways on the rear. I once lost the rear on some diesel and control also came back in an acceptable time.

Call the midlife! · April 6, 2018, 13:03

Quote from: LydonB on April 6, 2018, 12:45
Did you check if you like the Toyo R1R s? Have them on one of mine and they have some serious grip on dry.

Quite good on wet roads as well, car comes back quickly after it sways on the rear. I once lost the rear on some diesel and control also came back in an acceptable time.

Ahh, the old "lost it on some Diesel" chestnut...[emoji23]

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Call the midlife! · April 6, 2018, 13:05

Quote from: MR TWO on April 6, 2018, 12:34
Quote from: uncletravellingmatt on April 6, 2018, 11:37
Me again. Re advice given - spoken with Camskills and they report that Toyo proxes T1R tyres were discontinued years ago, the same for the Bridgstone Potenzas. They suggest the Uniroyal (made by Continental) Rain Sport 3 tyres (A rated in the wet, against E for the T1Rs - technology has moved on. they say). Anyone got any experience with a roadster on Uniroyal Rain Sport 3's?

Did you ask whether Camskills who have probably sold thousands of T1r tyres are now out of stock and selling something else on which they get a better margin?

Toyo still list them on their website but some dealers claim they have been replaced with the T 1 Sport (I think) if it's true it would explain why Demon Twerks are in a rush to get rid.

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Ardent · April 7, 2018, 08:19

Not had Rainsports on the 2, Didnt do in the correct size for me when I was looking. But are my go to tyre for my daily. Love love Love.
Did have some Falkens. Very pleased with those as well.

Both good, but not as good as the AD08r, but, they are more pocket friendly.

MR TWO · April 7, 2018, 11:49

Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 6, 2018, 13:05
Quote from: MR TWO on April 6, 2018, 12:34
Quote from: uncletravellingmatt on April 6, 2018, 11:37
Me again. Re advice given - spoken with Camskills and they report that Toyo proxes T1R tyres were discontinued years ago, the same for the Bridgstone Potenzas. They suggest the Uniroyal (made by Continental) Rain Sport 3 tyres (A rated in the wet, against E for the T1Rs - technology has moved on. they say). Anyone got any experience with a roadster on Uniroyal Rain Sport 3's?

Did you ask whether Camskills who have probably sold thousands of T1r tyres are now out of stock and selling something else on which they get a better margin?
Toyo still list them on their website but some dealers claim they have been replaced with the T 1 Sport (I think) if it's true it would explain why Demon Twerks are in a rush to get rid.

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I thought Toyo Sport were only availabl;e in 17 rim size?

Call the midlife! · April 7, 2018, 12:07

Quote from: MR TWO on April 7, 2018, 11:49
Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 6, 2018, 13:05
Quote from: MR TWO on April 6, 2018, 12:34
Quote from: uncletravellingmatt on April 6, 2018, 11:37
Me again. Re advice given - spoken with Camskills and they report that Toyo proxes T1R tyres were discontinued years ago, the same for the Bridgstone Potenzas. They suggest the Uniroyal (made by Continental) Rain Sport 3 tyres (A rated in the wet, against E for the T1Rs - technology has moved on. they say). Anyone got any experience with a roadster on Uniroyal Rain Sport 3's?

Did you ask whether Camskills who have probably sold thousands of T1r tyres are now out of stock and selling something else on which they get a better margin?
Toyo still list them on their website but some dealers claim they have been replaced with the T 1 Sport (I think) if it's true it would explain why Demon Twerks are in a rush to get rid.

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I thought Toyo Sport were only availabl;e in 17 rim size?

You're probably right, I never actually followed it through it's just what some suppliers were listing as the replacement in general terms.

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BahnStormer · April 8, 2018, 20:46

Yoko AD08R's are great... seem to be the best tyre that was avilaable in the same pattern for front and rear... I had some initial concerns about the sidewalls flex, but tried them (for one run) at 30PSI (4PSI over recommended) and the "sidewall" issue is clearly just my 60k mile stock suspension getting a little tired... this is next on the list, when funds permit!

shnazzle · April 8, 2018, 20:48

Yeah you won't find nay flex in the AD08R sidewalls. They're fortified with metal. They're stiff as can be.

Sure you're not thinking Toyo T1-R

1979scotte · April 8, 2018, 20:50

Quote from: BahnStormer on April 8, 2018, 20:46
Yoko AD08R's are great... seem to be the best tyre that was avilaable in the same pattern for front and rear... I had some initial concerns about the sidewalls flex, but tried them (for one run) at 30PSI (4PSI over recommended) and the "sidewall" issue is clearly just my 60k mile stock suspension getting a little tired... this is next on the list, when funds permit!

AD08R have sidewalls hewn from granite so it's your suspension for sure.

BahnStormer · April 8, 2018, 21:03

Quote from: 1979scotte on April 8, 2018, 20:50

AD08R have sidewalls hewn from granite so it's your suspension for sure.

Yeah - original tyres were very old and ropey, so never leaned on them at all... once I had the Yoko's on there, I started to do that - had one bad "wobble" straight after they were installed (valve on the front right leaked from 26PSI to <20PSI and it was a long, hard left corner) and even though I pulled over and confirmed it immediately - got it fixed within 24h, it took months before I was properly confident in them again.

There's still a sponginess to the ride that is now 99% due to tired suspension, but that'll need ~£800 and a friend around the corner to clear his drive for the day (?) - neither of us has done MR2 (or any Toyota!) suspension before, so hopefully we'll do it all in a few hours!!

shnazzle · April 8, 2018, 21:14

Don't negate your bushes. They can go pretty iffy and have a lot to do with spongy feel

Ardent · April 8, 2018, 23:55

Quote from: BahnStormer on April 8, 2018, 20:46
I had some initial concerns about the sidewalls flex, but tried them (for one run) at 30PSI (4PSI over recommended)

As in lack of?
I trust you now have the correct pressure in front and rear. 26F 32R

BahnStormer · April 9, 2018, 13:49

Quote from: Ardent on April 8, 2018, 23:55
Quote from: BahnStormer on April 8, 2018, 20:46
I had some initial concerns about the sidewalls flex, but tried them (for one run) at 30PSI (4PSI over recommended)
As in lack of?
I trust you now have the correct pressure in front and rear. 26F 32R

No, too much flex. I don't think there is any more, but after the initial valve problems (front right deflation) and obvious corner "wobbling", so I was looking at tyre pressures initially. Problem is I don't know what to expect as I never drove the car hard when it was on bad tyres and now that it is on good tyres, I've started to notice the sponginess. It may just be that the Audi insulates you COMPLETELY from what's happening on the raod and it's been 15 years since I've owned a car that gives you decent steering feedback (BMW E30)....

I have the pressures back down some of the way: 28PSI front (stock+2PSI) and backs have always been 32 PSI rear (stock).

Still feels spongey in the corners, not sure if that is purely paranoia or also tired suspension. I'm betting on an equal measure of each.

March was an expensive month with the '2 - >£1000 in MOT+fixes + new hood.... mostly the latter!! As soon as I have that sort of money to spend on the car again, it's going on MeisterR's and I'll polybush (only the suspension components!) when that's going in.

shnazzle · April 9, 2018, 13:56

It'll be suspension. Those tyres and painfully solid at times

BahnStormer · April 9, 2018, 15:28

Quote from: shnazzle on April 9, 2018, 13:56
It'll be suspension. Those tyres and painfully solid at times

Yeah - pretty sure you're spot on with that. I'll let somebody take it for a ride at one of the meets and give me some feedback... problem is once the suspension is firmer, I'll be wanting the chassis tightened up too... it's a slippery slope that I've been down before in previous cars.... plus I'll probably be running 25-26PSI and complaining about the sidewall stiffness after that

Ardent · April 9, 2018, 23:39

slightly tongue in cheek

I was thinking the same as shanz, that somehow you were thinking of the T1Rs.

uncletravellingmatt · April 11, 2018, 10:11

OK, so I've got Uniroyal Rain Sport 3 tyres all round about to be fitted. Any info/experience about suitable tyre pressures for road use. Thanks.

1979scotte · April 11, 2018, 10:38

Quote from: uncletravellingmatt on April 11, 2018, 10:11
OK, so I've got Uniroyal Rain Sport 3 tyres all round about to be fitted. Any info/experience about suitable tyre pressures for road use. Thanks.

Start with stock pressure 26 front 32 rear and go from there.
Assuming you've got stock or close to stock sizes.

BahnStormer · April 16, 2018, 22:37

Toyo T1 Sport don't go below 17" and the smallest for the fronts would be 205/50ZR17, so massively over-tyred.... unless you like rolled arches and an undrivable car....

https://www.toyotires.com/tire/pattern/proxes-t1-sport-ultra-high-peformance-summer-tires

Real shame they don't do T1-S's any more - they had those for 16" rims and about 195 width, if not 185's (and smaller rims).... but I think they stopped those about 10years ago - it was like a T1-R, but where the V patterns went all the way to the side.... they didn't hold their line quite as well as the T1-R's, but there was a lot more feel and when they started to let go, they were very progressive.... very good fun indeed!