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[Mr Lazy]

A quick update...

I finally ordered the tyres (Falken ZE310) on 27 August from Tyreleader.co.uk. The fronts arrived in good time, but it is now 35 days later and the rears have still not arrived! DPD appear to have lost them but Tyreleader are refusing to reimburse me or send out replacements until they have finalised a claim with DPD. As far as I'm concerned, the issue with DPD  is between DPD and Tyreleader and I don't see why I should wait endlessly for that to be resolved. I won't be using Tyreleader again.

As for the front Falkens, it is difficult to give a fair review. Partly because I still have cheapo tyres at the rear and partly because I can't really compare them with anything. Despite this though, they do feel good and inspire me to drive with more confidence than before, although this could be psychological.

Update No.2: I left a negative review on Trustpilot and consequently, Tyreleader have now contacted me and refunded me. So thank you to them for that.

[Joesson]

Better luck with your rear end replacements!

[ManInDandism]

A quick update...

I finally ordered the tyres (Falken ZE310) on 27 August from Tyreleader.co.uk. The fronts arrived in good time, but it is now 35 days later and the rears have still not arrived! DPD appear to have lost them but Tyreleader are refusing to reimburse me or send out replacements until they have finalised a claim with DPD. As far as I'm concerned, the issue with DPD  is between DPD and Tyreleader and I don't see why I should wait endlessly for that to be resolved. I won't be using Tyreleader again.

As for the front Falkens, it is difficult to give a fair review. Partly because I still have cheapo tyres at the rear and partly because I can't really compare them with anything. Despite this though, they do feel good and inspire me to drive with more confidence than before, although this could be psychological.

Update No.2: I left a negative review on Trustpilot and consequently, Tyreleader have now contacted me and refunded me. So thank you to them for that.

A bit silly of Tyreleader to wait that long imho.

Would be obvious that they've not been delivered and if they refunded you immediately you'd think better of them!

[Joesson]

A quick update...

I finally ordered the tyres (Falken ZE310) on 27 August from Tyreleader.co.uk. The fronts arrived in good time, but it is now 35 days later and the rears have still not arrived! DPD appear to have lost them but Tyreleader are refusing to reimburse me or send out replacements until they have finalised a claim with DPD. As far as I'm concerned, the issue with DPD  is between DPD and Tyreleader and I don't see why I should wait endlessly for that to be resolved. I won't be using Tyreleader again.

As for the front Falkens, it is difficult to give a fair review. Partly because I still have cheapo tyres at the rear and partly because I can't really compare them with anything. Despite this though, they do feel good and inspire me to drive with more confidence than before, although this could be psychological.

Update No.2: I left a negative review on Trustpilot and consequently, Tyreleader have now contacted me and refunded me. So thank you to them for that.

A bit silly of Tyreleader to wait that long imho.

Would be obvious that they've not been delivered and if they refunded you immediately you'd think better of them!

The only positive from their "service" is that there will be at least a few on here that now know where not to go.

[Mr Lazy]

A bit silly of Tyreleader to wait that long imho.

Would be obvious that they've not been delivered and if they refunded you immediately you'd think better of them!

Yes, absolutely. I can understand them wanting to wait a few more days than usual in the hope that they would turn up, but waiting well over a month (and probably longer if I hadn't written the review) was a bad move on their part.

[rusty0273]

A quick update...

I finally ordered the tyres (Falken ZE310) on 27 August from Tyreleader.co.uk. The fronts arrived in good time, but it is now 35 days later and the rears have still not arrived! DPD appear to have lost them but Tyreleader are refusing to reimburse me or send out replacements until they have finalised a claim with DPD. As far as I'm concerned, the issue with DPD  is between DPD and Tyreleader and I don't see why I should wait endlessly for that to be resolved. I won't be using Tyreleader again.

As for the front Falkens, it is difficult to give a fair review. Partly because I still have cheapo tyres at the rear and partly because I can't really compare them with anything. Despite this though, they do feel good and inspire me to drive with more confidence than before, although this could be psychological.

Update No.2: I left a negative review on Trustpilot and consequently, Tyreleader have now contacted me and refunded me. So thank you to them for that.

Fantastic the response you get once a negative review goes up. Did they ask to to take it down/reword it before refunding? Had something similar with a holiday company. Not interested in listening to my complaints until I put a review up on one of the usual sites (Trip Advisor maybe?). Mobile rang within about 5 minutes with offer to make good but only if I agreed to re-do the review. Bit of a joke really but that's customer service these days.

[Mr Lazy]

@rusty0273 Actually no, they didn't ask that. However, I took it upon myself to add an edit to the review and give them an extra star (while still keeping the original paragraph intact). I want them to feel as if there is some benefit to them for refunding me, otherwise these companies may not act upon situations like this in the future.

[Zspeed]

Interesting thread. Im also struggling to find tyres in the right sizes.

Has anyone used Michelin Pilot Sport 3 and what did they think of them? Seem to get a good review generally but cant find any comments about them used on a 2? 

[puma2]

Interesting thread. Im also struggling to find tyres in the right sizes.

Has anyone used Michelin Pilot Sport 3 and what did they think of them? Seem to get a good review generally but cant find any comments about them used on a 2? 


i would have gone for the Michelin had they done a full set in std size.
there again i would have 1st choice ad008r but when they went to rs the reviews were not good and tyre dealers had down graded  the tyres. so gave falken  310 a go from protyre

[Gaz mr-s]

The Pilot sport 3 is an old tyre.  Look up Hankook K125 in tyre tests (not punters reviews)  Comes in standard sizes, as does the Falken ze310.

fwiw..... I've had both, & agree that the Hankook is better. I've only one experience of, but the Falken is more aquaplaning-resistant.
The Hankook is also cheaper from Camskill.

[Iain]

Interesting thread. Im also struggling to find tyres in the right sizes.

Has anyone used Michelin Pilot Sport 3 and what did they think of them? Seem to get a good review generally but cant find any comments about them used on a 2? 

I have them on mine. They are brilliant. Yes they are an older tyre now, does that make any difference, not really.

Grip in wet and dry is impressive. The only small drawback is the slightly softer sidewalls to what the car likes, soon sorted with upping the pressures to 28F and 34R.

They aint exactly a cheap tyre, but you get what you pay for in this world 👍

[Iain]

Interesting thread. Im also struggling to find tyres in the right sizes.

Has anyone used Michelin Pilot Sport 3 and what did they think of them? Seem to get a good review generally but cant find any comments about them used on a 2? 

I have them on mine. They are brilliant. Yes they are an older tyre now, does that make any difference, not really.

Grip in wet and dry is impressive. The only small drawback is the slightly softer sidewalls to what the car likes, soon sorted with upping the pressures to 28F and 34R.

They aint exactly a cheap tyre, but you get what you pay for in this world 👍

[Zspeed]

The Pilot sport 3 is an old tyre.  Look up Hankook K125 in tyre tests (not punters reviews)  Comes in standard sizes, as does the Falken ze310.

fwiw..... I've had both, & agree that the Hankook is better. I've only one experience of, but the Falken is more aquaplaning-resistant.
The Hankook is also cheaper from Camskill.

Thanks Gaz, i will have a look at these.

[Zspeed]

Interesting thread. Im also struggling to find tyres in the right sizes.

Has anyone used Michelin Pilot Sport 3 and what did they think of them? Seem to get a good review generally but cant find any comments about them used on a 2? 

I have them on mine. They are brilliant. Yes they are an older tyre now, does that make any difference, not really.

Grip in wet and dry is impressive. The only small drawback is the slightly softer sidewalls to what the car likes, soon sorted with upping the pressures to 28F and 34R.

They aint exactly a cheap tyre, but you get what you pay for in this world 👍

Thank Iain, is there snything you can compare the sidewall softness to? Like toyo?

Im spirited b road and country lane driving for persepective.

[Iain]

Interesting thread. Im also struggling to find tyres in the right sizes.

Has anyone used Michelin Pilot Sport 3 and what did they think of them? Seem to get a good review generally but cant find any comments about them used on a 2? 

I have them on mine. They are brilliant. Yes they are an older tyre now, does that make any difference, not really.

Grip in wet and dry is impressive. The only small drawback is the slightly softer sidewalls to what the car likes, soon sorted with upping the pressures to 28F and 34R.

They aint exactly a cheap tyre, but you get what you pay for in this world 👍

Thank Iain, is there snything you can compare the sidewall softness to? Like toyo?

Im spirited b road and country lane driving for persepective.

They're not that soft really, i didnt notice much difference taking off the oem bridgestones and fitting the michelins.

You do however notice it a tad when on a sprited run, all depends how you drive and what you like really. It didnt bother me too much as there is more than enough grip, a bit of sidewall flex isnt much to worry about. Again it can come back to what feel or feedback you want from the car.

On a recent track day i did i ran the morning session on oem pressures then upped them to 28F and 34R for the afternoon and the car just felt alot happier, so i'll be leaving them at that pressure.

[shnazzle]

I've been thoroughly enjoying my Rainsport 3/5 combo.
It's truly fantastic having actual grip on wet roads.

I know some people say "I never struggle, I think thr AD08RS have plenty grip in the wet".
I have to call bullsh1t on that. Having driven the AD08 range for years and now being on Rainsports, the sheer amount of grip I have on wet corners is phenomenal in comparison.

It's SO nice not having to fear going on in the wet. Standing water? Not a problem... Just piledrive through.

I can wholeheartedly recommend them to anyone. Also for dry blasting around. Absolutely fine.
Don't run them on a track, but tyat seems fairly obvious...

[1979scotte]

I've been thoroughly enjoying my Rainsport 3/5 combo.
It's truly fantastic having actual grip on wet roads.

I know some people say "I never struggle, I think thr AD08RS have plenty grip in the wet".
I have to call bullsh1t on that. Having driven the AD08 range for years and now being on Rainsports, the sheer amount of grip I have on wet corners is phenomenal in comparison.

It's SO nice not having to fear going on in the wet. Standing water? Not a problem... Just piledrive through.

I can wholeheartedly recommend them to anyone. Also for dry blasting around. Absolutely fine.
Don't run them on a track, but tyat seems fairly obvious...

It's a combination of wet and cold for me on the AD08R.
But I live in a much warmer dryer part of the country than you.
Not sure what I will get next but it won't be the RS.

[shnazzle]

What's also interesting; 
A 3rd person review based on what I saw.

@tricky1138  is running the Nankang NS-20 tyres. We've got them as well on Helen's 2 and I've found them rather good so far but we drove behind Tricky back from Ding Day and the weather was absolutely horrid. Proper torrential rain. Not like "oh my it was raining cats and dogs" but like properly pouring out of the skies so much so that you couldn't even see tyre tracks on the surface from the car in front. It was that water-logged. River A1.
I aquaplaned twice on the rear in our Airtrek (new tyres on order).

BUT...Tricky in his '2 on NS-20s didn't really seem to be struggling at all. I had to drop to 40mph and it was still dicey, while he trucked on. 
NS-20 seem to be very effective (with fresh-ish tread) at moving water out of the way.

[Ardent]

When I had them. I would say the same for the Falkens.

Sort of glad I was not behind myself, given the amount water they shifted.

Sadly, (as perverse as it sounds) I've not been out in heavy rain on the rainsports.

[AJRFulton]

I've been thoroughly enjoying my Rainsport 3/5 combo.
It's truly fantastic having actual grip on wet roads.

I know some people say "I never struggle, I think thr AD08RS have plenty grip in the wet".
I have to call bullsh1t on that. Having driven the AD08 range for years and now being on Rainsports, the sheer amount of grip I have on wet corners is phenomenal in comparison.

It's SO nice not having to fear going on in the wet. Standing water? Not a problem... Just piledrive through.

I can wholeheartedly recommend them to anyone. Also for dry blasting around. Absolutely fine.
Don't run them on a track, but tyat seems fairly obvious...

You'll never get a tyre that does it all.

These high performance track capable road tyres (ie AD08/RSR/NS2R/etc), cannot be as good in the cold and wet as a dedicated road tyre.

Frankly the E marked track special tyres (R888R, AR1, AO48, etc) would be dangerous on the road in a downpour even though legal. I use the AR1 on my car (non road legal, track only) and it is pretty much undrivable as soon as the track progresses beyond being merely a bit 'damp' - whilst being imo the best 1B track tyre on the MR2 when dry and up to temperature. I'd hate to have them on a car driving a greasy and wet public road.

In road driving you never really go above 6 or 7 tenths. Tbh..... any half decent road tyre will cope with spirited driving on a dry day that's above 10°C. If you have to worry about grip in the dry when road driving, your car is either not set up well or you're driving too fast! Don't get me wrong, I completely get them on a weekend car that rarely sees rain (as they do feel more composed ), but I really do not get them at all on a daily.

I really like rain sports as a cheap(ish) road tyre, had them on several vehicles. They definitely feel very composed in the wet, and perfectly adequate in the dry too - would happily use them on a daily.

[Petrus]

I have gone from poor quality all weather to AD08R.
The latter offer about the same grip in the wet. The caveat being that when there is real stánding water, I slow down a lot for the reduced sight because of the rain alone already!

Yes, premium brand rain tyres offer lots more traction when there is more water pooring down than to wet the road but it all depends on whether you nééd that. On a daily in the Netherlands of the UK I would go for it. Commuting with an MR2 in colder weather must nowadays be a minority use though.

Mine ís my ´daily´ but not for commuting and I can pick my time, route and ´hurry´, living in the mountainous andalucian heartland under 300 days of sun/year.
It is now 35 degrees C. Tomorrow Sunday 38 degrees expected and just a bit further on 43. Monday the same or higher.
I will be picking up my son on Monday, passing a region that has extreme heat warning up to 50 degrees. The all terrain rubbers under his mom´s SUV will have a véry hard time and I will need to take tighter bends like it has snowed. Same thing rain specials. The AD08Rs under the MR2 lóve it. When the current set wears down* will look at A052 ;-)
205/50 x 15 rear, 195/50 x 15 front.

* I am positively surprised about the wear. They wear quite evenly front/rear and look like they will get close to 40k kms.  Ok, that is pretty dismal for ECO tyres under a commuter car but for sports rubber I think it rather good. Must be the sub 900 kilos of the car on none too grippy tarmac here.

[Zspeed]

In case it is of use to anyone Michelin have confirmed the Pilot Sport 3 will shortly be finishing.

As a result im considering going with so yoko ad08rs for summer and getting some seperate winter tyres.

I have 4 spare 15 x 6j standard wheels at the moment, can anyone comment on whether it would be a good idea to use these as a square set with some winter tyres for uk use from nov-feb with some suitable all weather tyres, or should i get some more for a staggered setup if i go down this route?  Need to be safe as its my daily and we do seem to get a right mix of weather the last few years


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[1979scotte]

In case it is of use to anyone Michelin have confirmed the Pilot Sport 3 will shortly be finishing.

As a result im considering going with so yoko ad08rs for summer and getting some seperate winter tyres.

I have 4 spare 15 x 6j standard wheels at the moment, can anyone comment on whether it would be a good idea to use these as a square set with some winter tyres for uk use from nov-feb with some suitable all weather tyres, or should i get some more for a staggered setup if i go down this route?  Need to be safe as its my daily and we do seem to get a right mix of weather the last few years


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Many on here really don't like the AD08RS it's just such a let down after the original.
Also if its a daily anything as extreme as the AD08R is probably a bad idea. Look at the weather we've had in the last month. Scorching and monsoon.
Not sure what to suggest as I don't know what I'm going for Next myself. Definitely not the RS. Perhaps rainsports maybe not the final word on the handling front but as safe as houses.

[Iain]

In case it is of use to anyone Michelin have confirmed the Pilot Sport 3 will shortly be finishing.

As a result im considering going with so yoko ad08rs for summer and getting some seperate winter tyres.

I have 4 spare 15 x 6j standard wheels at the moment, can anyone comment on whether it would be a good idea to use these as a square set with some winter tyres for uk use from nov-feb with some suitable all weather tyres, or should i get some more for a staggered setup if i go down this route?  Need to be safe as its my daily and we do seem to get a right mix of weather the last few years


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Always a good idea to keep some stagger, its how the car was designed to be so its the safest way forward.

The conti premium contact was on my short list if you're looking up that end of the table, be a close or even a match to the PS3s.

@1979scotte Do we know anyone who has actually fitted the new RS yet? I struggle to believe its as bad as the rep it seems to be getting.

[Zspeed]

Thanks Iain, I walked around Hatton Sunday and there were plenty of cars with the rs on them even though everyone with them was off somewhere else and I couldn't speak to them directly.

Lots of old toyo t1r tyres on most of the cars. I assume they don't do many
Miles and will go out of date before they have to change them.

Also thinking about the conti. The hankook k125 and the kumho ha51 seem to do better than the rainsports in most tests too. I still have some time to make a decision but won't be long.