SuperArt's TTE Turbo - "Turbo Dodo"
As these cars continue to decrease in number, the hope is this one survives long into the future even long after I'm done with it.
The mission: To assemble the most desirable and rarest factory option parts and to drive the subsequent OEM flavoured time capsule for as long as possible whilst refreshing the greasy moving parts along the way.
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Why "Turbo Dodo"? I believe this car is as good as extinct with the rate of change the automotive world is seeing. There may be a future where only the most affluent automotive aficionados can afford to enjoy fossil fuel fun let alone the whole discussion about how lightweight sports cars like this won't ever be made again.
It's as dead as a Dodo and it's turbocharged. Simple really.
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Current Specification
Basic stats
2005 MR2 Roadster - UK Facelift
1E7 Crystal Silver
Hardtop
Aircon
Interior
OEM Two-tone leather interior with contrast stitching
OEM GB carbon effect instrument cluster surround
OEM GB carbon effect door sill
TTE roll bar (P/N: AM27987)
TTE chrome pack 1 & 3 Gaiter surround, weighted shift knob, door handle surrounds, cluster rings.
JDM Navigation Pod
JDM aluminium MR-S rearview mirror cover
JDM aluminium MR-S handbrake lever [soon!]
Exterior
OEM GB body kit
OEM GB ducktail spoiler
OEM GB red "TOYOTA" badge
TTE front bumper (P/N: AM27917)
TTE foglight kit (P/N: AM26430)
TTE air intake kit (P/N: AM27977)
TTE rear grille (P/N: AM28034)
TTE rear spoiler (P/N: AM27919)
TTE chrome fuel cap cover (Part of chrome pack 3)
TTE sports silencer (P/N: AM27909)
TTE Grand Prix Alloy Wheels (P/N: AM18422)
JDM 'Midship' Badge custom painted silver
JDM Chrome mirrors [soon!]
Engine Room
TTE turbocharged (P/N: AM26404)
TTE performance air filter (P/N: AM18150)
Chassis & Suspension
TTE chassis brace
TTE lowering springs (P/N: AM27910) [soon!]
TTE stabiliser kit (P/N: AM27914) [soon!]
TRD Front Strut Brace [soon!]
*No fibreglass copy items or third-party parts installed. If multiple parts available in the same category the rarer part was chosen and fitted. I.e. Grandprix wheels over grandstands, sharp-look side skirts over jelly mould style and carbon effect door sills over the chrome/mirror plates*
It's 2014. As a youngster whose focus at the time was just finding a good work/life balance I didn't really pay any effort in pursuing any passions/hobbies.
That was until I discovered the world of Touge (峠, tōge Japanese for mountain pass) driving. After spending an unreasonable amount of time watching Japanese language video clips of tuned cars take to the windy narrow mountain passes, I was enamoured and wanted a piece of the action. It just looked so FUN!
The search as it most often does started with a MX-5. By chance I happened to stumble across the zzw30 MR2 and a decision was made to source one after a little research.
Mid-engined, reasonably priced and a Toyota product? What's not to like? Sure it was an incredibly awkward looking thing but it seemed to perform incredibly well on the mountain stages.
At the time I was still driving my first car, a 2004 Nissan Almera having obtained my licence only 2 years earlier. I didn't really know much about cars then and even less about MR2s. After my research I only knew that my car would have to be fitted with a hard top and leather interior, anything else would be just be a bonus.
The car you see today was actually the third car I viewed, after days browsing on Autotrader it was the only car which kept grabbing my attention with its rare/interesting leather interior.
Rather on impulse, I decided to purchase the car.
I'll wager not many people would base the decision to buy a car on the interior but that's what I did.
Purchased in 2014 with 62,000 miles this is the car on the day I brought it back home.
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Acquired!
- 2005 MR2 with hard top, A/C, Two-tone leather interior, TTE Spoiler and some interesting exterior weathering.
In hindsight I should've done a bit more research and viewed the car with a more critical eye, however heart won over mind and I purchased a car which on closer inspection was a little rough round the edges.
There was a scrape on the rear bumper, paint had begun peeling from the front bumper/bonnet, the front lights (all of them) were badly weathered and the brakes looked like they'd seen MUCH better days.
It was also missing one of those black kidney grilles from the rear bumper. The previous owner lived in South End and the street the car was parked was not very wide. I imagine it's quite difficult to keep a car when it has to stay parked on the street at all times so in fairness to him the condition could've been a lot worse.
The redeeming qualities of this purchase were the excellent as new interior, hardtop and TTE spoiler.
At the time I was still getting used to driving such a low slung lightweight car that my focus wasn't really on the presentation but the driving feel. However the car couldn't stay like this as my OCD was putting me on a path to pursue perfection.
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I drove the car around like this for a while but eventually ran into my first major problem.
On my way home from work on a balmy summer evening I noticed that the water temperature had shot up dangerously close to the limit and I ended up parking the car on the M25 hard shoulder to wait for the AA man to recover my vehicle.
Long story short, it was the radiator that let go. I decided to have a crack at carrying out the repairs myself so armed with Les' incredibly helpful guide here and a few choice tools from Halfords I took the front of the car apart and replaced the rad with a Koyorad item.
Seeing as I'd never done any car repair/maintenance by myself before, this simple task felt incredibly rewarding even though it took me from noon to after dark to finish - not to mention the hours of internet tutorial trawling before that.
I don't remember much from 2014 at least not pertaining to this car, but I do remember having the worst time bleeding the car. God how much do I not want to do that job again.
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Job jobbed!
- Koyorad replacement by myself
- Purchased my first tools from halfords
At this part of the story you'd probably expect me to reel off yet more issues and my recount of fixing them.
The truth is (and I'm sure a lot of you already know this) this car doesn't really get used a lot. I've always had a daily driver and at one point this was even my third car. For me this is just a toy to play with on fair weather days.
Back in 2014 I drove it perhaps once a week which didn't give the car a lot of chances to show me what it wanted to break next. Instead of concerning myself with those small issues of reliability and safety :) my main focus and obsession was bringing the car up to scratch with original factory issued optional extras.
My thinking was that I'd first upgrade the car until it matched the image I'd been obsessing about (more on that later) and focus on the repair/maintenance work once the car reached a state of "wholeness" - you know, then it would be a cinch keep it looking pretty.
Present day me would do the complete opposite and focus on the maintenance and repairs first but for a young and inexperienced car guy image was the only thing I cared about.
Having discussed all my car dreams and aspirations with the ROC, I realised a lot of parts I wanted were either extremely rare to the point of non-existent or that I'd need to shell out inordinate sums bringing them in from overseas.
I then spent a good few weeks on the blower to various scrappers whose ebay listings indicated they might have some tasty parts in stock and hitting plenty of dead ends along the way. That is until I found a man who I'd come to depend on an awful lot in the coming years. You all know him fairly well now but back in 2014 I am not sure many people did. I'm of course speaking of our good friend Dean from Rutland MR2.
As is the way with these things, one never leaves an Aladdin's cave with merely what one originally intended to buy. I really only wanted the black ducktail spoiler I saw in Dean's ebay ad but it turned out he had a lot more on offer. Dean is the nicest bloke you could meet so after spending some time nattering away he talked me round into parting with more of my beer tokens.
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Acquired!
- TTE Brace
- Toyota GB plastic side skirts
- Toyota GB ducktail spoiler
- TTE fuel cap ring
This carried on for a while, calling breakers, spamming Dean with text messages and checking the ROC classifieds as often as I could and meeting ROC members in the wind and rain (why does it always rain when I buy parts for this car?) all the while slowly piecing together the parts I needed to recreate what I believed to be the perfect silver MR2 roadster - the silver SP240 belonging to Simon Walsh.
Here's a small e-shrine I've put together to immortalise his car... which ultimately performed a back flip and somersaulted into some hedges but I won't post that photo here.
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Around this time, the parts I'd been collecting were starting to build up.
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Acquired!
- TTE Style bar (Courtesy of Dean Roiser)
- TTE lowering springs
- JDM midship badge (Courtesy of Andyroo)
- TTE exhaust (coursety of Dean Roiser)
- TRD rear strut brace
- OEM Toyota GB front spats
- OEM Toyota GB side skirts and rear spats (courtesy of UKTotty a.k.a. Russ)
Towards the end of 2014 I turned my attention to refreshing the brakes (with my retired neighbour's helping hand), installed a TTE style bar and the TTE exhaust while I was at it too.
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Job jobbed!
- TTE style bar installed
- TTE exhaust installed
- All new brake discs and pads fitted
I tried my hand at tidying up the front lights with the meguiars 2 step kit. Expensive for what it is and the results weren't that great. Still, slightly yellowed is better than very yellowed.
Ended up getting new headlights later on anyway.
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Job jobbed!
- Meguiars 2 step headlight restoration.
Armed with some new stoppers and a head full of Hot Version you tube videos, I decided to participate in the first Car Limits ROC meet arranged by Scotty.
Hilariously fun day but I really didn't learn anything other than how much I'd been overestimating my driving ability so it was still money well spent in that regard. How often do you get a chance to really ****-up a corner in real life, not once but over and over again and be smiling about it?
Put some faces to names and had a great day out.
EDIT: My car was the only other car (together with JoeCool's) equipped with hardtop much to the bemusement of other ROC members of course.
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Job jobbed!
- Attended track day and my first ROC event
- Made friends
The next major event in the history of this car occurred sometime in 2015/16 when a red TTE turbo car came up for sale.
I wasn't able to purchase the car but I did manage to buy the kit from the member who had (no prizes for guessing who I got the kit from ;D :D). A pilgrimage to Headcase in Bexhill was made to get the kit fitted (my old man followed me on the way down in his SLK). To bring the boosted car back up to London I sat shotgun in Scott's SP240 and drove in convoy with Jrichard's V6. Shame I didn't take photos of the mini meet.
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Acquired and fitted!
- TTE Turbo kit with piggyback ECU 'Power Control' module.
- TTE Panel filter (Did not know this even existed!)
After the turbo conversion I managed to get a good 3-4 months of fun (I think we're still in 2016 here, but my memory is hazy), tackling my favourite local B roads on my once weekly drives. However the car developed a strange issue and started belching great big plumes of white smoke, I guess it decided to join the vape craze.
The car was checked into my local friendly garage R2 Automotive and upon inspection oil was leaking from the turbo and the fins were pretty damaged. To this day I have no idea what could've caused it but I ended up putting a shiny new snail in and from all indications this one will last me a long while.
R2 also carried out a compression test and found the car in clean bill of health!
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Job jobbed!
- New turbo fitted
- Compression tested and healthy
Er - any pics?!
Quote from: ManInDandism on May 20, 2019, 07:12
Er - any pics?!
Pics are there (viewing on Android), lovely too :)
Quote from: delhusband on May 20, 2019, 07:36
Quote from: ManInDandism on May 20, 2019, 07:12
Er - any pics?!
Pics are there (viewing on Android), lovely too :)
I couldn't make up my mind ifnl he was taking the Mickey or not.
Hey if you guys want more pics I'll not hold back this weekend when I continue the story.
Hope you guys' internet speed is good 😎🤯
Quote from: SuperArt on May 20, 2019, 08:13
Hey if you guys want more pics I'll not hold back this weekend when I continue the story.
Hope you guys' internet speed is good 😎🤯
I only do fibre mate.
Plenty of speed for a few pictures
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 20, 2019, 07:58
Quote from: delhusband on May 20, 2019, 07:36
Quote from: ManInDandism on May 20, 2019, 07:12
Er - any pics?!
Pics are there (viewing on Android), lovely too :)
I couldn't make up my mind ifnl he was taking the Mickey or not.
That's odd. All pics in full view now!
Read the whole thread (on my Android phone) on the train on my way into work. Loads of text but honestly could not see a dickie. Hats off for the endeavour!
Great write up which gives a good step by step explanation of how you have developed your car....and the more photos the better :)
You've now put me to shame and I'll have to start a similar thread to show how my car developed, although it was completely standard when I bought it from new in 2004 and it has taken probably 15 years to get it as I want it. It might take me a while to start the thread as I need to sort out 15 years of photos first ;)
To continue the ever more confusing and less coherent tale then!
I'd been picking up a few factory option parts for the bodywork since the very beginning, and due to the car's paintwork not being up to scratch anymore I decided to have it all sorted out once and for all. The parts I found are genuine articles, I was adamant if I couldn't find the genuine parts to complete the body kit I'd rather not have a body kit at all. This insistence on genuine parts stems from my own belief they'd be longer lasting than copy parts. Whether that's true or not remains to be seen, but at the very least I hope that it would add more value to the finished car (if ever there was such a thing!)
And so yet another trip down to Headcase in Bexhill was made and the exterior rejuvenation project was underway.
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Trivia!
Did you know?
Toyota made 2 styles of side skirt for the Toyota GB body kit. One with straight sharp edges, and one with a softer jelly mould style. I couldn't tell you which year they offered which style or if the change in design was tied to some other reason. Hopefully someone out there will let me in on the secret one day!
I went with the sharp edge style side skirt and sold the jelly mould. Good choice too as it turns out the jelly mould skirt would later be reproduced in fibreglass.
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Job jobbed!
- Fitted OEM Toyota GB body kit
- Fitted OEM Toyota GB ducktail spoiler
- Resprayed and blended
- JDM front badge fitted
- TTE fuel door fitted
- TTE badges applied
Well it's a good thing one of my photos had a caption on it courtesy of my old man. So now we know it was April 2017 when this all took place.
Here's the car when it first rolled out of Headcase's shop freshly painted. Took a photo alongside my old man's SLK - he had to drive down with me all the way from Hornchurch and back up again. What a great dad.
Edit: It must be said though it looks great in pictures there were some huge oversights on this job which I noted to Scott, SteveA and JRichards when I collected but was essentially told (in the gentlest terms) to manage my expectations. However it's not a matter of expectations but minimal acceptable level of quality which this really did not meet.
Without going into details, this remains one of the most annoying and worst jobs carried out on Dodo. It is what it is.
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Some have remarked the car looks a bit 'chavvy' referring to the double spoiler. As much as I like to have the TTE spoiler on the car I do agree this was a very busy look.
You'll see some photos with it on and sometimes with it off going forward as I can't quite make up my mind about it.
In the same year a car port was erected to better make use of the wide access area beside the house. Now with a way to keep the away from the elements I was ready to carry out even more exterior upgrades without having to fear mother nature wreaking havoc when my back is turned.
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Job jobbed! (But not by me!)
- Car port erected
- Turbo Dodo parked in a safe place
All the lights at the front were then replaced with genuine Toyota items.
These really hurt the wallet, but I did try the headlight restoration kit (see above) and it didn't do anything for me so I bit the bullet and decided to go with the longer lasting option.
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Job jobbed!
- New headlights
- New foglights
Another very significant exterior change was the addition of some rather tasty TTE Grand Prix wheels which had to be imported from the continent. I'd been waiting for years for a set of these to pop up for sale and there just aren't any in the UK. Lo and behold, within the first month of putting out the feelers on the European owners group someone was ready to part ways with their set.
After forking out some rainy day funds (I really wanted these wheels) I waited for a few weeks, and then they arrived!
I had also purchased a set of Grandstand wheels but decided I didn't much care for them after all as they were made available through the 90s on corollas and paseos. After deciding the grandprix and chicane wheels fit the modern look of the car that bit better I moved on the grandstand wheels to a corolla owner.
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Acquired!
- TTE Grand Prix 16x7 wheels
Quote from: SuperArt on July 23, 2019, 22:34All the lights at the front were then replaced with genuine Toyota items.
These really hurt the wallet, but I did try the headlight restoration kit (see above).
I have the same kit and am yet to try it. Looking at your brand spankers does make me just want to get new ones tho! Tbf only one of mine is particularly bad, the other is like 75% decent.
Quote from: househead on July 23, 2019, 23:37Quote from: SuperArt on July 23, 2019, 22:34All the lights at the front were then replaced with genuine Toyota items.
These really hurt the wallet, but I did try the headlight restoration kit (see above).
I have the same kit and am yet to try it. Looking at your brand spankers does make me just want to get new ones tho! Tbf only one of mine is particularly bad, the other is like 75% decent.
The 2-step kit is good for a few months but perhaps the included sealer isn't the best because the yellowing does resurface.
All I'll say about the new lights is that it really makes the car look good as new. I've had many compliments from non car folk about how new and factory fresh my old car looks. You won't regret it!
Is there a current source for brand new ones? Do Toyota still sell them?
Quote from: househead on July 24, 2019, 00:12Is there a current source for brand new ones? Do Toyota still sell them?
Indeed they do! I'd enquire with their service department and ask for a quote. When they give you a number hmm and ahh a bit before kissing your teeth and saying "can you do it any cheaper?"
They went from £200+vat per light to about £180 for me.
I think the new lights are a great purchase of you can afford the investment.
I feel that you should add a small edit about you changing your wheels.
Scott told me told me not too.
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 24, 2019, 06:55I feel that you should add a small edit about you changing your wheels.
Scott told me told me not too.
I couldn't be dissuaded anyway. Just had to be done! For science!
UPDATE
I haven't checked my thread in a while and it appears the photo links broke sometime ago.
I've taken this chance to rewrite a few posts which didn't read too well, adding in more information which came to mind as I was writing again and also uploaded a few new photos.
I'll be updating this thread soon as I want to report on the whole CaliperRefurb brake fiasco and how the car currently sits.
Most importantly. I've given the car a new name: Turbo Dodo. Why "Turbo Dodo"? I believe this car is as good as extinct with the rate of change the automotive world is seeing. There may be a future where only the most affluent automotive aficionados can afford have fossil fuel fun let alone the whole discussion about how lightweight sports cars like this won't ever be made again.
It's a Dodo and it's turbocharged.
It's certainly a nice car and wouldn't mind driving around in it.
:) this will be a good read especial about the brakes as we all know that all 2s have problems on this :(
Long story short.
Bought a caliper set from Simon Sinclair over facebook, was requested friends and family payment so did just that.
Got it on the lifts and my mechanic discovered that the tolerances on the carriers are way too tight.
If I decided to go ahead I'd need to shave the pads a couple mm each side EVERY time I change pads.
Tested a few different brands of pads (new) and my old pads which came off the car. Fouled with every single one.
Ended up losing a day of my time and few hundred quid in labour lighter with nothing to show for it.
To distill what happened next when I tried to get a refund, I'd use the word nightmare.
Apparently I hadn't purchased from an enthusiast/individual, I'd purchased from a business.
Apparently I accepted the T&Cs at point of payment (was never shown a copy of this, neither did I accept anything).
Apparently according to those same T&Cs which I wasn't aware of I should be VERY careful with what I said due to a NDA clause within.
Apparently I should've known I was buying from a business from the email address I wired the payment to.
Ultimately it was the most painful soul crushing experience dealing with someone who wouldn't take a view on things. Who initially said in no uncertain terms I wouldn't be getting my money back. Only after a lot of work was an offer of assessment and possible refund made but I had to arrange shipping at my own cost.
Made the same complaint to Frentech who I learned supplied Simon in the first place. Matter resolved in literally 5mins.
David was pretty much bending over backwards to make things right. Promised full refund even without seeing the goods and sent me a return shipping label.
Well I've received my refund a few days ago, so I felt compelled to put this on record.
I maintain I did not deal with any business. I purchased from someone who I had thought was a reputable fellow enthusiast.
The club was very supportive. I was contacted by a few members from the management team including Patrick with whom I had quite a long phone call on the matter. Ultimately there are posts on social media and one here somewhere cautioning would-be buyers so with any luck this wont be happening again to anyone else.
Still want to get a fresh set of stoppers on there but I will wait until I recover from my losses.
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Sunday 6th Feb 2022
Started taking things off the Dodo and installing the "forever" parts.
I had initially flip flopped with liking and not liking the TTE boomerang but have decided to put it back on with the numbers matching boot lid and sell the spare lid.
I still can't warm up to the double spoiler look. However I like having space back in my shed more than I dislike the look of this combo.
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I started the bumper changeover with the TTE one and realised the UK plate holder doesn't fit.
Will have to find a solution fast as I have MarkA waiting for the Bootlid and bumper sans spats.
Looking to get booked in at S12vea's recommended body shop to have this painted up soon.
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Appreciate your comments but at this stage I'm not looking to beat anyone with a stick.
I can only hope this doesn't happen with anyone else.
I should say for anyone else reading please don't comment on the above post#33. It was just to put events on record. Thanks to everyone who lent an ear when I was going through it, you know who you are.
I would run a smaller stick in front plate or none if you're brave
Can't wait to see this fitted, let me know when it's booked in
I run a 12" X 3" plate up front.
Never had any bother from the bizzies.
I think I'll have to keep using this euro plate rather than Japanese sized plate, just for the look more than anything else. I'll forgo the screws and will try some strong automotive adhesive tape. Might mutter a prayer during installation for good measure.
Some new TTE bits come in from a recent shipment. Nothing really to shout about (some are duplicates/spares of things I already have) and some TTE branded memorabilia which I'll never wear.
Managed to snag a pair of somewhat uncommon TTE side vents in new old stock condition.
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I don't know what the fuss is about, to me they seem kind of flimsy (they are plastic) and really not worth the arm and leg I had to give up in exchange.
Maybe I'll change my mind once they are on the car.
At the very least it goes with my modus operandi for the Dodo.
The mesh is VERY shiny though which is a plus.
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Quote from: SuperArt on February 7, 2022, 19:07I think I'll have to keep using this euro plate rather than Japanese sized plate, just for the look more than anything else. I'll forgo the screws and will try some strong automotive adhesive tape. Might mutter a prayer during installation for good measure.
I have 6 letters on mine, plate cut down with legal size letters and margin then stuck with 3M HD Velcro
Quote from: s12vea on February 7, 2022, 11:20I would run a smaller stick in front plate or none if you're brave
Can't wait to see this fitted, let me know when it's booked in
+1 on the stick on. Just saying.
Quote from: Bernie on February 7, 2022, 20:17Quote from: SuperArt on February 7, 2022, 19:07I think I'll have to keep using this euro plate rather than Japanese sized plate, just for the look more than anything else. I'll forgo the screws and will try some strong automotive adhesive tape. Might mutter a prayer during installation for good measure.
I have 6 letters on mine, plate cut down with legal size letters and margin then stuck with 3M HD Velcro
Would like to see a photoshop with a stick on.
Had a spare 15 mins this evening so I thought I'd fit one of these new old stock badges I picked up recently.
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After a lot of elbow grease and dental floss...
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Here's the end result!
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Took a leaf out of Toyotas own Corolla compressor with the red Toyota badge and compressor badge.
If only Toyota had released the TTE turbo as a range topping model. If only.
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I did the same with the VVTi-190 badge for my 2ZZ.
The TTE bumper install has NOT gone smoothly so far.
I might be thick here by not knowing how to do a simple job like this, but there is no doubt the TTE bumper is actually thick.
I'm not kidding, the lip under the lights must be half an Inch thick the one which runs across the front secured by four screws is like 1cm thick. The bumper doesn't sit flat, it's very raised.
TTE Bumper top lip:
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TTE Bumper lip (near lights):
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What's even more confusing is the recessed vent/grille area fouls with the inside "gubbins" where the fog lights so it doesn't go far in enough.
Lastly, mystery tab. What is this even for?
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Anyone know where I can get copy of the TTE bumper install manual?
Just a guess but maybe the mystery tab is for other markets that need a side reflector?
So I brought the Dodo and her new face to R2 Automotive.
They have managed to get further than me at least but have had to lighten the car a bit to get it to fit.
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Gaps and fit is nice and tight/even, but they've needed to take off the crash bar and mounts. Horn possibly will need relocating.
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There's no way I'm driving around without a crash bar. I've asked them to keep at it, maybe persistence will prevail.
I'm sure it's a genuine part but I don't remember Bernie having any of those problems when he had his fitted, I thought all TTE stuff was a straight swap, size and location wise.
Problem seems to be one of two things:
1) shrinkage according to S12vea.
2) poor quality control of a small limited run product by a small sub division of Toyota according to my TTE source.
On the latter, there's truth in that. My TTE rear grilles were not a straight swap. You'd be surprised to see how they're actually mounted.
I can only believe it is genuine.
Has all the right markings and it is made from quite heavy flexible plastic. The small fog light kit as well is exactly the same as in the instructions.
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Quote from: SuperArt on February 11, 2022, 20:17The TTE bumper install has NOT gone smoothly so far.
I might be thick here by not knowing how to do a simple job like this, but there is no doubt the TTE bumper is actually thick.
I'm not kidding, the lip under the lights must be half an Inch thick the one which runs across the front secured by four screws is like 1cm thick. The bumper doesn't sit flat, it's very raised.
TTE Bumper top lip:
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TTE Bumper lip (near lights):
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What's even more confusing is the recessed vent/grille area fouls with the inside "gubbins" where the fog lights so it doesn't go far in enough.
Lastly, mystery tab. What is this even for?
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Anyone know where I can get copy of the TTE bumper install manual?
Body shop that installed mine also removed the crash bar to get it to fit correctly it won't sit right with the crash bar in place
Quote from: Bernie on February 12, 2022, 17:39Body shop that installed mine also removed the crash bar to get it to fit correctly it won't sit right with the crash bar in place
So you are not running a crash bar? Did you also need to relocate the horns?
Quote from: SuperArt on February 12, 2022, 21:07Quote from: Bernie on February 12, 2022, 17:39Body shop that installed mine also removed the crash bar to get it to fit correctly it won't sit right with the crash bar in place
So you are not running a crash bar? Did you also need to relocate the horns?
TBH no idea they never mentioned it when I collected it
I took the new TTE side vents down to R2 Automotive for their guys to spray up and fit. They had just taken off the nasty fake carbon wrap stuff off the TTE rear grilles and found this crazy bodge by some previous owner.
The guy who sold it to me must've had a rear end shunt at some point.
Anyway, cracks aren't deep in the plastic but have to be sanded out before we go to paint.
Lots of work to do.
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This will look stunning when finished Arthur
You're on the home straight
Quote from: s12vea on February 23, 2022, 07:04This will look stunning when finished Arthur
You're on the home straight
Should be finished this weekend!
Then I've got to work on the greasy bits before summer.
With any luck, I'll fall in love with it again so I don't have my customary yearly flirt with the idea of selling the Dodo towards the end of the year.
Some progress shots.
The front spats fitted terribly initially and there were some overhang issues to solve. After some mods they now fit perfectly and the overhang has been taken care of. Look almost factory finish.
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Turns out the TTE grill isn't damaged at all. All the crazy cracks were just in the paint and boy were there many layers of it. For some reason the previous paint jobs were all awful and nobody had bothered to sad down to bare plastic before recolouring.
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So today we have finished all the painting. Final polish will be done tomorrow and the car will be complete once more.
I have spoken to R2 and they insist the crash bar just will not work with this bumper even if we consider cutting some sections off.
Deeply uncomfortable with the prospect of operating any car which does not have the standard basic safety features from the factory so I'm very conflicted on this.
I'll likely drive it home and park up for a while until I figure out how to get a custom crash bar made up.
Either that, or I put the original bumper on with the crash bar and keep driving in safety.
On an unrelated note and perhaps moot point, still need to figure out how to wire up the TTE foglight kit to the FL wiring. R2 Automotive will know but my wallet is starting to hurt so I want to have a stab at it myself.
Lots of reading up to do.
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Quote from: SuperArt on March 2, 2022, 22:49Deeply uncomfortable with the prospect of operating any car which does not have the standard basic safety features from the factory
In your driving career, how many times have you been in the situation where the car/object in front of you, has reversed into you?
Or, how many times have you driven in to the car or object in front of you?
I write this from the perspective of trying to ease your mental uncomfortableness.
To further alleviate the issue and your uncomfortableness. I am prepared to give you £1k, for your death trap 2. You know it makes sense
You can then put that towards a super safe SUV.
I'd be interested to know how it affects the handling as well, bearing in mind how much the chassis flexes when it's on axle stands with the crash bars off.
I wouldn't be comfortable without the crash bar.
Especially not this day and age when people seem to leave their sense at home and go out on their phone, speeding, not indicating and not sticking to their side of the road.
10 years ago... No problem.
I've seen custom
Quote from: Ardent on March 2, 2022, 23:57In your driving career, how many times have you been in the situation where the car/object in front of you, has reversed into you?
Or, how many times have you driven in to the car or object in front of you?
I write this from the perspective of trying to ease your mental uncomfortableness.
To further alleviate the issue and your uncomfortableness. I am prepared to give you £1k, for your death trap 2. You know it makes sense
You can then put that towards a super safe SUV.
I took the same view with mine also taking into account it's not a daily and low mileage driven
Perhaps you could think about having one fabricated to fit the space you have?
Maybe worth chatting to Ropey Racing who make a rear one, to pick their brains about how they determined the strength needed?
https://www.ropeyracing.com/mr2-parts/2020/2/20/1elesacvp2xuxwmvvltzqawzafr0jp-7pwp9?
Quote from: Topdownman on March 3, 2022, 07:11Perhaps you could think about having one fabricated to fit the space you have?
Maybe worth chatting to Ropey Racing who make a rear one, to pick their brains about how they determined the strength needed?
https://www.ropeyracing.com/mr2-parts/2020/2/20/1elesacvp2xuxwmvvltzqawzafr0jp-7pwp9?
I don't think they did, they've been called out on the strength side of it previously when all they say is "ours is stronger than original".
It's flat plate and small gauge tube and fairly straight, mainly there to mount their other accessories.
But for peace of mind, structural rigidity and to satisfy your insurance they might be able to make a front one, at a cost.
Ah, interesting. I was hoping for some engineering expertise!
I was not thinking of them doing it as there would be no commercial value for them as the front one is not one that people ever see like the rear, just hoping that they could give some pointers.
I was thinking about a local fabricator who could knock up something to suit and adjust it if/when needed.
IIRC there are two differing front crash bars for the 2 as I found out when I damaged mine.
My original on a 2003 was fairly thick but the one I replaced it with was about half as thick. May have had a couple of spacing brackets too (too long ago now).
Might that help?
Quote from: cptspaulding on March 3, 2022, 12:58IIRC there are two differing front crash bars for the 2 as I found out when I damaged mine.
My original on a 2003 was fairly thick but the one I replaced it with was about half as thick. May have had a couple of spacing brackets too (too long ago now).
Might that help?
You are absolutely dead on.
It would seem TTE designed their offerings right before the facelift with all it's changes was introduced.
R2 Automotive have confirmed I will likely need to convert the front crash structure to PFL. This is the way ahead.
@Bernie FYI.
Had a mini photoshoot with the Nex 7 today. I don't really know what I'm doing with a camera but the results seem to be ok with the point and shoot setting.
Here's how she sits today. She's come very far but there's still so much more to do.
The first job would be putting the JDM front badge back on methinks. Then I've got Nvy's TTE springs to install, TTE ARB to repair (had come off a wrecker), TRD braces to powdercoat and install.
The list is never ending.
For your viewing pleasure...
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@SuperArt I should perhaps know this, but the two tone seats. Were they an option at some point?
@ SuperArt, that does look VERY nice.
Looking through these images makes me appreciate so much the OEM design of the car and the accessories Toyota came up for this platform.
Everything seems to tie in so sweetly. Especially the bumper, it ties in the lines which run across the boot lid, hard top and bonnet.
If you look carefully you'll see the lines which on the bonnet are an inset element, become a raised element on the nose of the TTE bumper.
I think they were really trying to play off on their F1 involvement, this nose really gives me that F1 inspired feeling.
I'm over the moon right now.
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Quote from: Ardent on March 6, 2022, 16:44@SuperArt
I should perhaps know this, but the two tone seats. We're they an option at some point?
Yes.
You had black or red leather as an upgrade from cloth offerings, but this bespoke leather interior programme was the highest cost interior option (according to ROC posts from circa 2006) made from a different leather stock.
The leather is very hardwearing and is extremely premium feeling.
I did not know this was a rare option at the time of buying the car, but this is the only reason why I purchased this particular car back in 2014. I felt that it was somewhat special.
I just got lucky.
Perhaps is leather, rather than the normal pleather of the FL.
Updated some images with better ones, I got the bigger camera out.
Sorry for mix of noon and early evening images.
Clean clear headlights make a world of difference to the overall appearance.
Quote from: SuperArt on March 6, 2022, 19:17Updated some images with better ones, I got the bigger camera out.
Sorry for mix of noon and early evening images.
That must have been an extraordinarily long shutter speed!
Sweeeet ride. 8)
Quote from: SuperArt on February 12, 2022, 21:07So you are not running a crash bar? Did you also need to relocate the horns?
The horn bracket does not attach to the crash bar, so they are not affected.
My apologies for the late response ;)
As to the double spoiler conundrum, the banana is a style accessory, the duckbill has a very much functional effect.
Chapeau to your sourcing skills!
...and Turbo Dodo is for sale.
I took her for an hours drive on local B roads today after work.
For the first time since taking ownership I felt nothing; not amusement, excitement, satisfaction, just straight up apathy.
I remember fondly falling in love with pouring myself into a tiny low-to-the-ground odd looking mid-engined sports car all those years ago. How I felt so proud of myself for doing small maintenance jobs, how excited I felt finding all those rare parts and of course the feeling of camaraderie joining you folks for drives out. However all good things it seems must come to an end. I enjoyed the journey far more than reaching the destination.
Not going to do anything else to it, shelved the safari rally light idea.
Time to move on. Never thought I'd feel this way ever but there you go.
so all good things must come to an end.....
Quote from: J88TEO on May 17, 2022, 21:39so all good things must come to an end.....
That´s what is said but... whý??? WHÝ must all good thing come to an end. Never saw the sense is that. Nope, sorry, not stopping with/ ending good things.
Sorry to read this
@SuperArt
@SuperArt We have never met, but have always admired your unique masterpiece. I can empathise with your sentiments, but just a thought before you consider taking actions to sell.....why not leave it for 2 weeks or so and see if you can replicate your current apathy towards the car + maybe driving in general.
The 'other' things in life sometimes take a far greater priority and can have a positive/negative impact on our overall satisfaction with events.
I apologise for wittering on about matters I know zilch about, but please give yourself the opportunity to reconsider.
Being the compassionate person that I am, I am sorry to hear you feel that way, but, if you do, you do.
I am prepared to relieve you of your burden for £1k.
If the love is not there, time to let go. I am prepared to take on that burden for you. That's what friends are for.
Sell it to Ardent. Sell it to Ardent. Sell it to Ardent.
Quote from: Ardent on May 17, 2022, 22:22Being the compassionate person that I am, I am sorry to hear you feel that way, but, if you do, you do.
I am prepared to relieve you of your burden for £1k.
If the love is not there, time to let go. I am prepared to take on that burden for you. That's what friends are for.
Sell it to Ardent. Sell it to Ardent. Sell it to Ardent.
I´ll take the turbo off your hand Jason ;)
@SuperArt take the roof off, take the muffler off (turbo and cat are moot enough for the next bit); roll it out first light Sunday morning, go to the deserted industrial estate down/up the road and let the turbo smoke the tyres.
I went out early this morning and lit the rear up with n.a. power even in thírd. It is súch a nicely balanced car and with the upgrades yours has ... dríve that smile on your face!
I've been there once. Built my first 2zz MR2 back in 2009. Drove it for a few years and got fed up. Sold it. Drove a nice Mercedes C-class for a few years. Missed driving with the roof down. Tried a Boxster and a SLK 350. Ended up buying a beautiful red stock low milage MR2 again. Nothing gives more bang for the buck.
I agree with Gibla. Give yourself a few weeks to think this through. Maybe you will change your mind. If not, GLWTS. It will sell quick for sure. It is a beauty.
I bought my own car twice now!
Had it 10 years. Not once thought of selling it.
Go and drive something else, and see how good you've got it right now.
The grass isn't greener.
Do you think a 2ZZ might keep you more interested? It may not be as fast as some turbo 1ZZs, but it's definitely a more engaging driving experience.
Quote from: SuperArt on May 17, 2022, 21:19...and Turbo Dodo is for sale.
I took her for an hours drive on local B roads today after work.
For the first time since taking ownership I felt nothing; not amusement, excitement, satisfaction, just straight up apathy.
I remember fondly falling in love with pouring myself into a tiny low-to-the-ground odd looking mid-engined sports car all those years ago. How I felt so proud of myself for doing small maintenance jobs, how excited I felt finding all those rare parts and of course the feeling of camaraderie joining you folks for drives out. However all good things it seems must come to an end. I enjoyed the journey far more than reaching the destination.
Not going to do anything else to it, shelved the safari rally light idea.
Time to move on. Never thought I'd feel this way ever but there you go.
It happens mate.
Nows the right time for you to try something new.
Like bird watching 😜
Quote from: Alex Knight on May 18, 2022, 22:08I bought my own car twice now!
Had it 10 years. Not once thought of selling it.
Go and drive something else, and see how good you've got it right now.
The grass isn't greener.
Do you think a 2ZZ might keep you more interested? It may not be as fast as some turbo 1ZZs, but it's definitely a more engaging driving experience.
Each to their own but the 2zz doesn't do it for me. Even with a rotrex strapped to it perhaps Arthur may like it more than me.
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 18, 2022, 22:36It happens mate.
Nows the right time for you to try something new.
Like bird watching 😜
I am a protagonist of ma-wo-vrij, di-do-za and zo free. I thínk @Schnazzle will get it. Maybe too too young.
Point being new does not need to mean replacing the former ;D
Quote from: Alex Knight on May 18, 2022, 22:08Go and drive something else, and see how good you've got it right now.
I think that's a great idea.
Quote from: Gibla on May 17, 2022, 22:17@SuperArt
We have never met, but have always admired your unique masterpiece. I can empathise with your sentiments, but just a thought before you consider taking actions to sell.....why not leave it for 2 weeks or so and see if you can replicate your current apathy towards the car + maybe driving in general.
The 'other' things in life sometimes take a far greater priority and can have a positive/negative impact on our overall satisfaction with events.
I apologise for wittering on about matters I know zilch about, but please give yourself the opportunity to reconsider.
Appreciate your sage advice, also I'm sure Turbo Dodo would appreciate your praise if only she had ears (no ears here! Her strap works)
It's not really anything complicated, I'm not going through bad times or experiencing any emotional turmoil.
I just found myself in a moment of lucidity thinking "why am I keeping this thing going when I'm clearly not enjoying the process anymore?"
I don't need the space or money, that's not why I'm selling; but I would like not to have to spend time on it now that its no longer serving the job of making me smile.
I still feel the same, ready to pass the baton to someone else.
Quote from: Ardent on May 17, 2022, 22:22Being the compassionate person that I am, I am sorry to hear you feel that way, but, if you do, you do.
I am prepared to relieve you of your burden for £1k.
If the love is not there, time to let go. I am prepared to take on that burden for you. That's what friends are for.
Sell it to Ardent. Sell it to Ardent. Sell it to Ardent.
Well I wasn't thinking of taking payments in instalments but I will consider £1k per month for a few months. I like your offer!
This one car is already quite the burden Jase, you sure you can handle it without compromising the upkeep on Sabine? I for one wouldn't be able to handle two of these!
Quote from: Bugster_MR2 on May 18, 2022, 21:10I've been there once. Built my first 2zz MR2 back in 2009. Drove it for a few years and got fed up. Sold it. Drove a nice Mercedes C-class for a few years. Missed driving with the roof down. Tried a Boxster and a SLK 350. Ended up buying a beautiful red stock low milage MR2 again. Nothing gives more bang for the buck.
I agree with Gibla. Give yourself a few weeks to think this through. Maybe you will change your mind. If not, GLWTS. It will sell quick for sure. It is a beauty.
I am fully aware I'll not be able to replicate the experience easily at this price point. The problem is I think I've reached a point in my life where I don't really have time or find enjoyment in a dedicated fun car.
I have driven the Dodo 2,700 miles in the last 5 years. Some of those were Sunday drives with ROC members, but other than that this is really just a Toy.
Will think on it a little but my heart isn't in it anymore.
Quote from: Alex Knight on May 18, 2022, 22:08I bought my own car twice now!
Had it 10 years. Not once thought of selling it.
Go and drive something else, and see how good you've got it right now.
The grass isn't greener.
Do you think a 2ZZ might keep you more interested? It may not be as fast as some turbo 1ZZs, but it's definitely a more engaging driving experience.
I know the grass isn't greener.
I don't even want the grass haha.
The only way I can be interested in this platform again is with something that has extremely wild looks and power. The problem is I'll need professional help achieving both; but having had some negative experiences with supposedly reputable ROC members for parts and services I'm not not sure I have faith I can see through another big project and I don't like doing anything by halves.
Off the shelf for me going forward.
If I HAD to pick something else to get into, it would probably be the new shape Exige or some kind of Cayman. Building a family and home comes first, maybe when I hit my midlife crisis I'll revisit this.
I've had this little baby since I was 24 paid with using my first pay check. It's really just sentimentality keeping me going these days.
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 18, 2022, 22:36It happens mate.
Nows the right time for you to try something new.
Like bird watching 😜
I share too much with you.
Laugh it up, I'll have you know the loss of sleep is more than made up by my gaining a valuable skill set.
I am an expert at cleaning bird poo now.
When life gives you lemons...
Washed, applied de-ironiser, clay bar'd, waxed and buffed. If I had a DA I'd like to give it a once over with some polish too.
She makes a pretty subject for sales photos. Interior cleaning tomorrow then under the cover she goes until the tyre kickers show up.
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Maybe you should take it to the Drivers Club National Event on sunday? You would probably sell it there with most of the MR2 lovers all in one place?
One last drive!
Quote from: Topdownman on May 22, 2022, 08:27Maybe you should take it to the Drivers Club National Event on sunday? You would probably sell it there with most of the MR2 lovers all in one place?
One last drive!
This is a fabulous idea.
Quote from: SuperArt on May 21, 2022, 21:52The problem is I'll need professional help achieving both; but having had some negative experiences with supposedly reputable ROC members for parts and services I'm not not sure I have faith I can see through another big project and I don't like doing anything by halves.
I hear you brother.
I wished I'd of heard you earlier.
We've both learned expensive life lessons.
Quote from: SuperArt on May 21, 2022, 21:52The only way I can be interested in this platform again is with something that has extremely wild looks and power.
For now move on.
After all is said and done, it is only a car. And in your case a first car.
Buy some, swap some, scratch itches, discover the difference between fast and quick, develop your preferences/priorities.
Then you get a charming company. Changing priorities, possibly kids. Two, three cars.
Repeat.
Hope you get the price you want and whishing you a fun car journey.
I've not been actively selling the car (only listed as gauging interest on ROC and nowhere else) but the rising cost of living seems to have hit everyone pretty hard. Noticing a lot of cars come up for sale but not much actually being sold.
Due to lack of genuine interest rather than casual curiosity, I have made plans to embark on a road trip with my brother (non petrol head) with the hopes of converting him to take an interest in cars. His dream car is a Mustang V8, if asked why he'll happily tell you that he likes it for the looks and sound; that should give you an idea of what level of car enthusiast he is. The Dodo is the complete antithesis to his idea of a dream car.
I don't do anything by halves and don't warm up to things; "go hard or go home" is my mantra so my first real road trip with the Dodo will be to the Swiss alps.
General idea of the trip will be 4-5 days and around 30+ hours total drive over 2000+ miles.
In addition to the usual furka, stussen, oberalp, stelvio passes we would like to do more traditional touristy things.
No idea what points of interest to hit up (I can just think of Reims on the way through France) with this driving schedule so I might scale back on the driving and apportion more time to the sightseeing instead.
My younger brother is financially a lot more "able" due to his career in investment banking. He's the sort to pay more for convenience without batting an eye so it was a miracle I'd convinced him to give up time from work to drive 6-8 hours a day with me when really I think he'd rather fly out there and hire a super car.
I've got my work cut out coming up with an itinerary that'll interest him.
That said, here's a list of things to do prior to trip:
- Learn about how to drive in Europe and the legal requirements per country we'll be trekking through
- Check insurance cover and accident/break down recovery options
- Come up with a list of "bucket list" points of interest to visit to keep the co-pilot happy.
- Conduct a health check on the Turbo Dodo and treat her to a nice set of new tyres
- Bring/purchase lots of action cameras to plaster the inside/outside of the car with.
- Decide to go hard top on or off.
I've got to give credit to everyone who has commented on here, Facebook, whatsapp encouraging me to have an adventure with the car, it has rather inspired me to use the car for its intended purpose.
This should be fun.
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Looks like you have got a great road trip planned, if anything could make you find some love for the car this trip would be it.
Fun times ahead 8)
So pleased to hear your taking your car on a trip like this, absolutely awesome and if this trip won't make you want to keep it then nothing will. Have a really lovely time. I'm very envious. ;D
Hard top off!!
You experience so much more of the scenery that way. Plus pedestrians can tell you how nice your car is.
I hope you are going to get used to driving long distances by coming to the national Meet first.
Have fun!
Quote from: SuperArt on June 12, 2022, 15:20I don't do anything by halves and don't warm up to things; "go hard or go home" is my mantra so my first real road trip with the Dodo will be to the Swiss alps.
General idea of the trip will be 4-5 days and around 30+ hours total drive over 2000+ miles.
In addition to the usual furka, stussen, oberalp, stelvio passes
I strongly suggest you skip, shun the Stelvio, Since TopGear brought it to the attention it is a traffic jam apart from when it just opens in spring and I mean júst.
No hard top. The soft top gives you choice.
Be aware of speeding. Especially in Switzerland.
Change of plans.
My one and only copilot bailed on me in favour of ten days in Bali.
I knew it was too good to be true.
Still I've done all the work researching for this trip it's just a matter of when.
For now I have a week off from coming Monday so I'll be making a trip to some points of interest near home. A tour of the Wensleydale creamery sounds good, as does any place on the national trust/English heritage menu.
Went for a drive, discovered a fishing lake I've not frequented before. Will bring my fishing gear with me next time, might have to take the hardtop off though.
Aircon refreshed two weeks ago. Toyota quoted something stupid like £400 for a new condenser and they couldn't get it anyway advising of the parts' obsolescence.
TCB came through for me and a brand new one was installed.
Before this fix it would always leak out after regas, and I found myself never taking dodo out on sunny days.
Aircon truly is a luxury I can't do without.
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Sorry to hear the big trip is postponed.
I suggest you head to mid wales for a few days, there are some awesome roads there!
Sorry to read about the no-trip.
Dó try go. Looked a mighty enjoyable one. What about going more south (and take the TRD exhaust)? O:-)
Quote from: SuperArt on August 27, 2022, 19:26Aircon truly is a luxury I can't do without.
When I moved south in 2000 never had had an airco car.
Took two with me as part of household. Was none the wiser.
First one bought here had no either and did not miss it.
Since have ´enjoyed´ the luxury but took it out of my MR2. Drive top down anyway.
Mind, we had this past july:
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My attention is split at the moment between Dodo and Friday.
Friday is taking most of my time at the moment, but when an opportunity to purchase brand new old stock TTE lowering springs comes up, one does not simply pass it up.
Nothing but the best for my Dodo.
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Will get them fitted at some point once I've decided on which brand of shocks and what else I need to do a full suspension refresh.
:) now that is a find and then some :)
well done 8) 8)