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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 1, 2003, 18:14

Title: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: Anonymous on July 1, 2003, 18:14
Managed to locate and disable what is for me the most annoying thing about this car.
All 2003's beep when put in reverse, easy fix - could do it again in 10 minutes.   s:D :D s:D  
Anyone interested in how to do it???   s:?: :?: s:?:  

Jon
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Post by: Anonymous on July 1, 2003, 18:18
Yep...is it easy to do?
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Post by: Anonymous on July 1, 2003, 18:26
If i can do it then anyone can!

need to pull off the dash instrument hood - the bit with the speedo and rev counter. Theres 2 clips at the top and 2 at the bottom and it just pulls out.
Then unscrew the instrument panel, one screw at top and 2 at bottom. This will pull forward enough to get at the three connectors.
On the biggest connector, the white one on the right hand side going into the instrument panel, theres a red with blue stripe wire. Its on the top row, 3 in from the left hand side as you look at the connector.
I just snipped it and taped off both ends.

Voila, no more beep!   s8) 8) s8)  
You could join this wire back together at a later stage if you're missing the beep too much...    s:D :D s:D  
Then put everything back together, which is very simple.

Job done!
Jon
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: Peter Laborne on July 1, 2003, 18:28
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Post by: filcee on July 2, 2003, 09:34
My 2001 SMT is fitted with a reverse beeper, and I find it annoying.  (My friends call me the dustcart when it starts going off, though the less well informed think it's a parking sensor!)  Having said that it does server a useful purpose on the SMT ... which is to remind you that you have selected the wrong gear, and are about to back into the bloke behind you at the lights   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

In an SMT reverse gear is selected by 'left and forward' with the stick.  This is the same position as first gear on most manual 'boxes.  There is no detente on the stick - locking collar, push down/pull up movement etc. - to prevent you from selecting reverse - hence the beeper.  Having inadvertently moved the stick in the wrong direction when exiting roundabouts - selecting 1st instead of 3rd for example   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:   - I should imagine it is possible to do the same when moving from neutral to 1st gear.  Fortunately I haven't managed to do that yet .... but have resisted the temptation to disconnect the beeper just in case I do.

Of course, you could always avoid using reverse - in which case a trip to Tesco's to practise your donuts is required   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Chris on July 2, 2003, 13:43
Quote from: "Jon H"If i can do it then anyone can!

need to pull off the dash instrument hood - the bit with the speedo and rev counter. Theres 2 clips at the top and 2 at the bottom and it just pulls out.
Then unscrew the instrument panel, one screw at top and 2 at bottom. This will pull forward enough to get at the three connectors.
On the biggest connector, the white one on the right hand side going into the instrument panel, theres a red with blue stripe wire. Its on the top row, 3 in from the left hand side as you look at the connector.
I just snipped it and taped off both ends.

Voila, no more beep!   s8) 8) s8)  
You could join this wire back together at a later stage if you're missing the beep too much...    s:D :D s:D  
Then put everything back together, which is very simple.

Job done!
Jon

YES!!!!! there is a god! that beep is gonna get it!  Well it will if i can bring myself to start snipping wires on my new car!

How did you find out about that?
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Post by: Anonymous on July 2, 2003, 15:49
Really easy to do and only 1 wire to snip!

I took the dash apart and went through every wire i could find with a multimeter checking the voltages.

My next task is to find the second most annoying thing - the beep when you open the door with the key in the ignition   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on July 2, 2003, 15:53
Quote from: "Jon H"My next task is to find the second most annoying thing - the beep when you open the door with the key in the ignition   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

I've always thought that bonging noise made it sound like I'd got an american motor (for some reason!).
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Post by: filcee on July 2, 2003, 15:58
Yep, they have them in the US because (for some reason) if your car doors are shut for a length of time, they will lock.  

Even if
- the engine is running
- you are not on the drivers seat

Now how hard would it be to check those things?

I guess we have to suffer it because it's easier to have as much of a single spec. to build to than to have to build 47 different variations for each market you sell to.  (Of interest is the fact that the Elise at one time had 3 different front bumpers because of the different markets they were selling to - all highlighted by the fact that the original front-end was not to US spec.)

Ho hum - back to the rental car  s:D :D s:D  

filcee
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Post by: Anonymous on July 2, 2003, 16:38
In the US they lock, as some insurance companies will only ensure if you have anti-car jacking features on your car (ie the doors lock automatically).

The MR2 ROC has this feature, but it must be enabled by the dealer.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 2, 2003, 16:42
Quote from: "cstevens"In the US they lock, as some insurance companies will only ensure if you have anti-car jacking features on your car (ie the doors lock automatically).

The MR2 ROC has this feature, but it must be enabled by the dealer.
So the owners club has an anti-car jacking feature?!

Nice one!

  s:P :P s:P  

--H--
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Post by: Anonymous on July 2, 2003, 17:47
Yeah, thats why im here so much... aint worked out how to get out!!!!!   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on July 2, 2003, 17:54
Quote from: "Hardcore"So the owners club has an anti-car jacking feature?!

Oh ho bloody ho!...the MR2R then!
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Post by: Peter Laborne on July 3, 2003, 12:23
Quote from: "Jon H"I just snipped it and taped off both ends.

Does this affect your warranty? I'm not too sure Mr T would be happy that you took out the instrument panel and snipped wires.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2003, 00:46
You lot are getting rid of reverse bleeping. You must be MAD. I think its dead classy and I'm going to add it to my '51 roadster; along with brown go faster stripes and black-out window film.

OK before I get lots of offensive replies ... only kidding  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  

Actually bit jealous of the 03 side vents and rear lights... may very well partake of these; its nice to see there will be something left for Mr T to improve next time!
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Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2003, 08:55
Hopefully in the next model Mr T will reintroduce the sony head instead of the fisher price one that we 03 drivers have to put up with.

It seems that the cost of rear 16s, new vents and spots was so expensive, that they could afford a decent stereo anymore.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2003, 09:11
I thought the stereo was a panasonic unit, and as Panasonic are Toyota F1's main sponsors, I wouldn't be surprised if a change back to Sony will have to wait until Toyota change sponsors.
Title: Help stop the beeping - PLEEEEASE !!!
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2004, 09:33
I followed the guide to stop my MR2 beeping when reverse is selected, all OK until I removed the big white connector from the back of the clocks. There is no red/blue wire and the hole in the connector 3rd in from the left is empty. But still it beeps ARRRGGHHH ! I've got a 2001 SMT, please someone help and tell me which wire to cut. Thanks.
Mr L
  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2004, 12:29
The guide I wrote was for a 2003 onwards manual so i'm not much help with smt.
If you can get hold of a multimeter then check the dc voltages along each of the wires when reverse is selected - when you find one that goes to 12v when in reverse and 0v when not then you've got your man!
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Post by: GSB on November 26, 2004, 12:40
The reverse beep is fine, I dont mind it as its the only thing that stopped me doing a full throttle banzai 0-60 dash the other day at a set of lights. The ones that REALLY 'kin annoy me though, are the "keys in the ignition" beep"  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:   and the "you're not wearing your seatbelt" beep...

The seatbelt one is the most annoying thing I've ever ever come across. It beeps at you, and when you ignore it, it actually gets louder and more insistant!  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
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Post by: Bongo on November 26, 2004, 12:47
you can turn that off with some sort of secret key twisting ODO button pressing code...
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Post by: roger on November 26, 2004, 13:12
Quote from: "Bongo"you can turn that off with some sort of secret key twisting ODO button pressing code...

I tried that, but I haven't been able to do it. I got the "sequence" from a post in here somewhere I think. I only gave it about 5 minutes, perhaps one day I'll give it a proper go.

Roger
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Post by: Asterix on November 26, 2004, 15:49
Quote from: "JonHatto"The guide I wrote was for a 2003 onwards manual so i'm not much help with smt.
If you can get hold of a multimeter then check the dc voltages along each of the wires when reverse is selected - when you find one that goes to 12v when in reverse and 0v when not then you've got your man!

Or that wire is for the white reverse light on the back of the car  :-) :-) :-)

Marcel
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Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2004, 16:38
You say there are two clip at the top and bottom of the instrument hood but I'm unsure where you mean and how you're supposed to release them to pull the hood out. Could someone please explain as I've got a very annoying rattle behind?   s:? :? s:?  

Thanks,

Andy
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Post by: roger on November 27, 2004, 20:49
Quote from: "AndyR"You say there are two clip at the top and bottom of the instrument hood but I'm unsure where you mean and how you're supposed to release them to pull the hood out. Could someone please explain as I've got a very annoying rattle behind?   s:? :? s:?  

Thanks,

Andy

The clips hold the cluster finish panel to the main dashboard. They are above and below the outside instruments. I have never done it, but apparently using a taped (to stop marking) scraper ie flat thin mettalic thingy, insert this between the two surfaces and lever / prise the panel from the dashboard. The instruments themselves can be removed by undoing the 3 screws that are exposed when the finish panel is off.

I am not too certain whether the clip is reusable though. The diagrams are a little confusing.  Can somebody who has done it confirm?

roger
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Post by: GSB on November 27, 2004, 23:05
Lower the steering column, and then grasp the instrument cover either side of the rev counter, and pull... No tools required.
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Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2004, 15:02
Thanks, did as GSB suggested and the hood came off easily. Couldn't find the rattle though!  s:x :x s:x  

Andy
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: Patou on July 25, 2013, 17:05
Helo !

I know... that's a long time that anybody come here   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

But I would like tell you "thanks" for this info, I will be able to stop this beep now in my 2006 MR-S   s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:    s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:    s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: redarrow on July 28, 2013, 03:07
Just asking so if you put your smt in reverse
And hit a car behind you becouse you dont
No your in reverse and not in first gear,
That in thory makes you responsible,

When there car get fixed and yours does not
Becouse you cut a safty feature from the car.

That means your are driving your car without
Valid car  insurance when you drive becouse of
A cut off wire.

Trust me in a accident they go over your
Car with a toothbrush.  

Also with the new mot laws in the uk
If the mot place notice there no bleep it
 A mot failure.

Infact even a accedent anybody fault your
Not insured, becouse you diabled a safty feature
That there for your safty.  

I am very sure that your insurance company
No that feature is active in your car.
And if you need to use your car insurance
There no it been disabled

This makes sencse to me becouse we have to
Inform the insurance ppl of any mods we add to
Our car sometimes our premiums go up for the
Mod to be added so i dont see how you can cut
Away a safty feature with out you invalidating
A insurance policy.

Is all this correct or all rubish my own
Written thory.

Regards john / redarrow
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: s12vea on July 28, 2013, 06:51
I just unplugged the connector under the drivers seat - job done without cutting any wires
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: redarrow on July 28, 2013, 18:32
Quote from: "s12vea"I just unplugged the connector under the drivers seat - job done without cutting any wires


Do you re connect when going for a mot.

Also why everybody cutting wires when you
Just disconnect from under the seat?

Regards redarrow
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: skyinsurance on July 30, 2013, 11:23
Quote from: "redarrow"Just asking so if you put your smt in reverse
And hit a car behind you becouse you dont
No your in reverse and not in first gear,
That in thory makes you responsible,

When there car get fixed and yours does not
Becouse you cut a safty feature from the car.

That means your are driving your car without
Valid car  insurance when you drive becouse of
A cut off wire.

Trust me in a accident they go over your
Car with a toothbrush.  

Also with the new mot laws in the uk
If the mot place notice there no bleep it
 A mot failure.

Infact even a accedent anybody fault your
Not insured, becouse you diabled a safty feature
That there for your safty.  

I am very sure that your insurance company
No that feature is active in your car.
And if you need to use your car insurance
There no it been disabled

This makes sencse to me becouse we have to
Inform the insurance people of any mods we add to
Our car sometimes our premiums go up for the
Mod to be added so i dont see how you can cut
Away a safty feature with out you invalidating
A insurance policy.

Is all this correct or all rubish my own
Written thory.

Regards john / redarrow

Inform the insurers of the modification and assuming they cover it, it's not a problem.

Thanks

Ollie
Sky Insurance

Tel: 01707 642552

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Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: Wabbitkilla on July 30, 2013, 11:30
Every car in the world warns you it's in reverse, when you start slipping the clutch it moves ... backwards!
You shouldn't be charging off backwards anytime to catch yourself out anyway, the beeper is the only one I've ever come across in a passenger car so the rest of the world seem to get on quite happily without it.
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: Andys-N20 on July 30, 2013, 12:30
Suppose I want to add this beeper to my 2000 6 speed 2ZZ?
Could I just find a reverse light output and run it to the pin everyone is talking about?
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: Andys-N20 on July 30, 2013, 18:39
Just had a play and if you fit a facelift spec dash pod to your pre-facelift MR2 and add a wire she beeps at you.
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: jrrmr2 on July 3, 2014, 21:46
Anyone else try Jon H's method of silencing the reverse beep?  Does it work?  And does it leave the reverse indicator light and other beeper functions intact and operable?

Unplugging the underseat connector probably disables the air bag.

J.R.
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: Markb on July 5, 2014, 22:28
I must admit the beeper saved me a few times when i first bought the 2.......its the only one of the four cars we have here with the reverse in the top left,i' m used to it now but found it easy to go into reverse instead of first.

My problem now is not going into sixth on the other cars  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: SpeedyGonzalez on May 19, 2015, 21:13
Quote from: "jrrmr2"Anyone else try Jon H's method of silencing the reverse beep?  Does it work?  And does it leave the reverse indicator light and other beeper functions intact and operable?

Unplugging the underseat connector probably disables the air bag.

J.R.

Hi ya. Old thread I know but just wanted to add my 2 piece for any that cares to know.

Firstly the underseat sockets control the two seatbelt lights respectively. They do not stop the reverse beeping. Not sure about the airbags, and wouldn't want to find that one out anyway. I left the socket in obviously.

You CAN remove the beeper itself (actual name: Pizzo buzzer) from the dashboard circuit and it WILL silence the beeping altogether without affecting any of the dashboard lights which are lit by tiny Toshiba V2 spec bulbs (also removable).However doing this will also silence any other noises that the car makes including leaving the lights on, door open et al..

So proceed with a bit of caution. It's a safe and easy mod  but if you're a bit on the forgetful side you might want to leave this one alone. Personally I couldnt stand that bloody beeping when reversing. Fockin maddening.

alternatively you can stick a bit of blue tac or gum in the buzzer and that should do the trick.

Plus it's reversible. D'oh!
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: adamjob on May 21, 2015, 21:42
I cut the wire and installed a resistor and capisator, now I only get one beep.
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: ashtons99 on June 29, 2015, 22:32
Quote from: "adamjob"I cut the wire and installed a resistor and capisator, now I only get one beep.

Any chance we can have a bit more info on this method of "fixing"
Title: Re: Disabling the reverse beep!
Post by: gazza1286 on June 29, 2015, 22:40
There's two explanations here. (I know which one I prefer)

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