2006 Passenger side window no longer retracts

carspath · October 13, 2023, 16:12

As per the title the passenger window is stuck in the UP ( fortunately , considering today's downpour ) position .

The Driver's side window works perfectly - the passenger side window not at all .

1 ) What is the logical sequence for tryingto detect what the fault is .... ie , which of the components within the chain has the worst history for breaking down ?

2 ) I am not technically minded , nor do I have many tools , but i wonder if a wire has come loose from teh window motor ----- how do I remove the door card to check this ?

3 ) Also how would i access the centre console switch to see if that is at fault ?

All suggestions and advice gratefully received .

SV-3 · October 13, 2023, 16:36

Hi

Check/operate the window lock switch to the right of the steering wheel.

Gibla · October 13, 2023, 16:40

From the symptoms you gave

I had very similar, and it turned out to be the passenger window switch which was 'gummed-up' with carbon like goo that simply needed cleaning off with sandpaper/file.

You access this by loosening the centre console which is held in by a screw on either side of it.

This is if reply in post #1 didn't work

Joesson · October 13, 2023, 17:26

@carspath
As @SV-3 writes check the window lock switch to the right of the steering wheel.
That will stop the passenger window opening.
You will not be the first to fall foul of the switch that has no useful function!

Ardent · October 13, 2023, 18:00

+1

s12vea · October 13, 2023, 18:08

+2

fawtytoo · October 13, 2023, 19:41

That darned switch has had me a couple of times.

Ardent · October 13, 2023, 22:01

@carspath

Any news?

carspath · October 14, 2023, 20:39

Hi everyone ,

Thanks for all the replies

Thanks to previous reading of the owners manual and MR2ROC , I knew about teh switch to teh Right of the steering wheel and sadly that is not the problem ... I wish it was !!

So I'll try removing the central console and cleaning the passengersside switch next ... wish me luck !!

I'll report back .

Thanks everyone

Ardent · October 14, 2023, 22:46

@carspath

If removing the center console and all 4 screws are present. Then my top tip is to whip out the seats. Sounds excessive but much quicker than fiddling about with the front screws that are obscured by the seats.
When you put the seats back in, they are torqued to 35nm.

Joesson · October 14, 2023, 22:58

@carspath

Another top tip is not to replace the obscured screws when you put the consul back. Mine are in the (redundant) ashtray, wrapped in a tissue to stop them rattling.
Not found a need to replace them and the seats don't need to come out to remove the consul to adjust the handbrake, that will be a job for you at some point.

carspath · October 14, 2023, 23:53

Oh dear .... its beginning to sound too complex for me to get teh central console out .
Where exactly are these obscured srews please ?

Anything else I can check first -- how difficult is it to remove the door cards to get to the window motor .... is it likely that teh motor has failed ?

Thank you

Ardent · October 15, 2023, 00:34

Each seat is only four easily accessible bolts.

The 2 rear console securing screws are easily visible. The two front ones are obscured by the seat squab.
You can remove with a cranked type screwdriver or whatever combo you can come up with.

I will wager you a coffee, you can undo and remove the the four bolts to the seats quicker than fiddling about with the screws.
Then as @Joesson dont bother putting the front two back. I currently have no screws securing the console. Guess what? Nothing, it just sits there.

Point of order.
Once the bolts are removed, this allows you to tilt the backrest forward and then tilt the whole seat backwards allowing easy access to the hidden screw, so not even technically removing.

i take it the front screws are actually there?

Petrus · October 15, 2023, 11:08

I use a Philips head bit in the small ratchet wrench for the front screws if I don´t have the seat(s) out.

Joesson · October 15, 2023, 12:46

Quote from: Petrus on October 15, 2023, 11:08I use a Philips head bit in the small ratchet wrench for the front screws if I don´t have the seat(s) out.

There's not much of the seats in your car anyway, and I would think that at least two consul screws are permanently removed from the car.

Petrus · October 15, 2023, 14:25

Quote from: Joesson on October 15, 2023, 12:46There's not much of the seats in your car anyway,

So no seat cushions to hold it tight: My console nééds the screws.

carspath · October 15, 2023, 21:37

Great , Thank you for the information and the encouragement ....much appreciated

Ardent · October 15, 2023, 22:08

@carspath

you have your location as UK, might you be able to narrow that down a little.
Might be someone more local that could assist.

Petrus · October 16, 2023, 09:59

Quote from: carspath on October 15, 2023, 21:37Great , Thank you for the information and the encouragement ....much appreciated

On youtube there are two or three nice illustrations of how to get the door card out if it would get to that. It really is a doddle. It would help if you borrow a spatula from the kitchen to act as the ´panel clip tool´. Wiggling it i¡under the panel is a bit easier on the card and clips than fingers and pulling but that will work too

Unlikely you will need to though.
But do look at the videos. Will boost confidence.

carspath · October 17, 2023, 22:55

Thank you Petrus and Ardent ...... I'm in West Dorset .

MR2 mk3's are an uncommon sight here , but just this last week I've seen two , including an identical red 2004 9 mine is a 2006 car ) in the Dorchester Tesco car park !!

Would be great to get to know any mk 3 owners in this area .

Thanks again Both