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Title: another C2 install
Post by: kanujunkie on May 29, 2006, 23:21
we'll day ones been and gone and after a late start around lunchtimeish, Mark, Matt and myself managed to strip the car in its entirety and hang the turbo and manifold, put on the crank vent and prep the oil pan, not bad for the first days work.

the only problems today

1)forward engine bolts found with only 5 or six turns of the bolts left holding the engine on!!!!! looks like another issue to add to the list after the problems i had with a certain toyota garage
2)Flywheel inspection plate missing! same as above i think
3)Some dozy bugger left the cooland and oil lines at home  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

On a personal note i'd like to say a BIG BIG thankyou to Mark and Chris for 'A' putting up with me and 'B' putting me up, their generosity never ceases to amaze me, lifes true gems, cheers folks  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

also a big thanx goes to Matt, who just turned up, roll up his sleeves and mucked in, cheers, another one who i owe big time  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

heres some piccies of the day

(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI1.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI2.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI3.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI4.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI5.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI6.jpg)
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Post by: spit on May 30, 2006, 08:22
Its looking very good guys. So much easier with a pit and space all round  s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:  You tha man, Mark  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

Is there a brace for the turbo underneath, or does the kit rely on the casting? I can see something in the kit of parts that I don't recognise - maybe that's it  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Anyhoo, if there is, when you finally get your coolant lines (doh, Stu  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  ) do a test offering cos you might find that the brace is right in the way of where the rear line naturally lies - assuming the only option to you is to have the turbo hub attachment facing downwards.

Useful to do the same with the oil feed line - its not something you can twist to fit so good to find an early lie for it round to the back.
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Post by: kanujunkie on May 30, 2006, 08:44
there is a brace Ste, we just havn't fitted it yet, i'm off in a min to start with that, as for the coolant and oil lines, well they dont arrive till this arvo  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  but theres loads of room to install them after anyway
Title: Re: another C2 install
Post by: Anonymous on May 30, 2006, 09:53
Quote from: "kanujunkie".....also a big thanx goes to Matt, who just turned up, roll up his sleeves and mucked in, cheers, another one who i owe big time  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

You're very welcome. I enjoyed helping out. I've still got a huge grin on my face from the noise the Apexi makes   s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: philster_d on May 30, 2006, 12:13
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI5.jpg)

Stud !!
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Post by: ninjinski on May 30, 2006, 12:58
Stu - Good on ya mate - Nice to see your deligating skills are up to the task   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Maybe you can put the wheels back on when the boyz are finished!   s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D  

Seriously though - looking forward to hearing how is comes along!
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Post by: loadswine on May 30, 2006, 14:36
All smiles then, even more so when its done. Upgrade to perma grin I guess.  s:D :D s:D
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Post by: spit on May 30, 2006, 16:35
Quote from: "philster_d"Stud !!

  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  Good  to see Mark at the helm.....but I'm with you ninjinski....Wonder if we'll ever see that elusive picture of Stu getting his hands dirty  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  That'll be one for the archives!

(ps Stu, your beautifully crafted jig arrived today. Thanx  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  )

*edit - I've just noticed something - no rear chassis member in those pics - does it come off? Nobody told me!  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
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Post by: Anonymous on May 30, 2006, 17:00
3 x 14mm in the holes at each end. Simple job. I didn't realise how easy until I took it off Stu's car yesterday. That's exactly what I'm doing in the picture.
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Post by: spit on May 30, 2006, 19:17
Quote from: "Matt"3 x 14mm in the holes at each end. Simple job.
(http://img34.exs.cx/img34/9362/homer_doh.gif)
Doh!
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Post by: kanujunkie on May 30, 2006, 19:26
Quote from: "spit"Wonder if we'll ever see that elusive picture of Stu getting his hands dirty  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  That'll be one for the archives!

(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/dirtyhands.jpg)


Quote from: "spit"*edit - I've just noticed something - no rear chassis member in those pics - does it come off? Nobody told me!  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:

6 bolts, 3 wire clips.   DOH!  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: kanujunkie on May 30, 2006, 19:28
more later on the install but surfice to say the stress today went orbital, stripped threads on the turbo!!!!

problem sorted but 2hrs of hair pulling and i look like Aaron now  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on May 30, 2006, 19:35
Quote from: "kanujunkie"(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/dirtyhands.jpg)

That's just where you fell over, I bet  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:


Quote from: "kanujunkie"problem sorted but 2hrs of hair pulling and i look like Aaron now

Excellent!  s:D :D s:D

*rubs thighs at the thought of another one*


 s:wink: :wink: s:wink:   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: aaronjb on May 31, 2006, 01:45
Well, I'm finally back home from day 2 of the C2 install.. they'll have to manage without me tomorrow (I guess at least nobody will be getting gassed while in the pit!  s;) ;) s;) ), then I'm back on Thursday.

I'll leave it for Stu to update on todays trials & tribulations later.. but he went to bed a good hour ago when I left Mark's (he was falling asleep on the sofa - must be an age thing  s;) ;) s;) )

Think I beat my record - 45 mins to get home without really speeding, including negotiating the guy who appeared to be drunk, weaving all over the M4, and who nearly rolled back into me at J6!  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: Liz on May 31, 2006, 12:30
Stu, please tell me that you are going to paint that cross member bit black whilst you have it off....I will even come up there with a tin of Hammerite if you want and do it for you!!
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Post by: markiii on May 31, 2006, 21:30
after the fun we've been having I reckon painting is teh last thing on his mind.

all my ghetto engineering skills have been put to teh test this week, and so far they are all working.

stu however now has less hair than a bald man.

now if only the stress works on body hair he will be laughing  :-) :-) :-)
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Post by: spit on May 31, 2006, 21:56
 s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Hang in there guys - boost is only a whisker away. Having nattered with Stu today he sounds remarkably chirpy and not at all bald. He is obviously delegating the duties well  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

I still think you should swap the tips over and 180 them - that'd look so cool  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  
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Post by: kanujunkie on May 31, 2006, 22:40
well day 3 is now over and today was another bad one. after spending the morning trying to fix yesterday disaster with a damaged fitting, we ended up spending 4hrs trying to work out why the exhaust and intercooler wouldn't fit only to find out that the right hand exhaust tip was never tested for fit before it was sent out!! basically it doesn't fit and needs to be plugged up now  s:( :( s:(  

so fingers crossed it should  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  only take 2 hrs work to be able to start her up and then limp her to H&S for a full fix  s:? :? s:?  

watch this space but at the mo i'm beginning to wish i'd not started  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
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Post by: Tem on June 1, 2006, 05:36
Quote from: "kanujunkie"at the mo i'm beginning to wish i'd not started  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:

Just wail till you get everything sorted out, that'll make you forget all the worries and you keep wondering why you didn't do this earlier.  s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: Anonymous on June 1, 2006, 07:46
Try to be patient with yourself and the car.

If its not any fun to do the work then stop.

Mine spent three weeks on jack stands and I didnt  have the problems you've had.
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Post by: philster_d on June 1, 2006, 09:37
Work has been insanely hectic, sorry I havent had a chance to pop over for a bit of moral support.

Best of luck,
Philster.
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Post by: loadswine on June 1, 2006, 10:11
Hang in there ! Boosted smiles are only just round the corner.  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 1, 2006, 13:08
10 mins to D-Day  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
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Post by: ninjinski on June 1, 2006, 13:37
Quote from: "kanujunkie"10 mins to D-Day  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:

Bring it on   s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D  

Cant wait to hear!
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Post by: Anonymous on June 1, 2006, 14:08
Quote from: "kanujunkie"10 mins to D-Day  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:

What are you doing on the site when you are 10 minutes away....   s:?: :?: s:?:  

Get back in that garage.....
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Post by: Slacey on June 1, 2006, 14:14
So? How did it go? It was either one of the following reasons for the hour between D-Day and me posting this:

1. It went great and you are out blatting round Hertfordshire;

2. It all went bang and you are repeatedly smashing your head into a wall!

I know which option I'd like to pick - so which one was it?  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:    s:P :P s:P
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Post by: ninjinski on June 1, 2006, 15:00
Quote from: "Slacey"So? How did it go? It was either one of the following reasons for the hour between D-Day and me posting this:

1. It went great and you are out blatting round Hertfordshire;

2. It all went bang and you are repeatedly smashing your head into a wall!

I know which option I'd like to pick - so which one was it?  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:    s:P :P s:P

or 3. Stu is busy getting the guys to clean up the garage for him before they leave!   s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
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Post by: spit on June 1, 2006, 15:26
oooooh the suspense  s:? :? s:?

Hope its all good news Stu.
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Post by: markiii on June 1, 2006, 15:55
it runs

however we have a couple of minor things to sort

split coolant hose (stu is off fetching kno)
injectors (arron and I are doing know after a tea break)

exhaust, big issue but off to H&S for a fix tommorow

all in, going better today (just)
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Post by: Anonymous on June 1, 2006, 16:36
Tea break? Pfft, you just can't get the staff...  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:


Sorry I haven't been able to pop over either, still I guess I'll get to see her this weekend anyways!  s:D :D s:D
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Post by: spit on June 1, 2006, 17:08
Sadly I'm not going to be able to make it either. Trip down south is off now  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:  .

Thanks for the engine soundbyte down the 'phone though Stu - the next best thing to being there - sounds wicked  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

Whats the ETA for getting markiii's beastie sorted? Looking forward to meeting up soon.
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Post by: heathstimpson on June 1, 2006, 19:09
Quote from: "Ekona"Tea break? Pfft, you just can't get the staff...  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:


Sorry I haven't been able to pop over either, still I guess I'll get to see her this weekend anyways!  s:D :D s:D
Same with me; was hoping to get over but the nightshifts have been a little hectic  s:? :? s:?  Sounds like things are not too bad   s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: Liz on June 1, 2006, 20:51
What time are you going to Basildump tomorrow?
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 1, 2006, 22:50
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secondly

OMG  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

this thing is unbeleivable, its smooth, theres absolutely no lag whatsoever. and i think i snapped my neck  s:? :? s:?
As for the install, well i've had my moments of tearing my hair out but now its in, minus a screwed exhaust, its unbeleivable, the thing goes like a rocket. Were just off to the garage to panel her up now and then i'm off to H&S in the morning.

Liz i'm in Basildump from 8am onwards, i'll call you when i'm done  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: ninjinski on June 1, 2006, 23:06
Great news mate - welcome to the thrill a minute club!   s:D :D s:D  

You now officially have a new car so to speak! ENJOY    s:D :D s:D    s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Liz on June 1, 2006, 23:09
Sounds brilliant Stu, gets me back to thinking along the Turbo lines again.....damn you!! especially as my Boxster has eaten a set of rear tyres in 3 months, is due a large service and a new clutch...ho hum!

You will probably be gone by the time that I am available tomorrow, got to take Mum to the hospital in the morning, call anyway and I will give you a bell to find out where you are when I am free.
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Post by: spit on June 1, 2006, 23:18
Way to go Stu  s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:  

(and your resident mechanics of course  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  Nice work guys!)

we want pics!!!!!!
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Post by: philster_d on June 1, 2006, 23:23
Cool

and i got my wideband delivered from america
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 2, 2006, 00:41
cheers guys, pics will follow when i get home but for now we're all knackered, 4 days of hard graft and stress take it out of you
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Post by: aaronjb on June 2, 2006, 02:31
And now I'm back home again - why is it that it's physically impossible for me to leave Mark's before 1.30am?

Anyway.. After Stu had his little blat around the countryside (with me following in the Subaru) and stopping at the chippy on the way back for dinner..

Mark and I got to have a go  s;) ;) s;)

Mark drives like a nutcase - but you all knew that already.. but by hell does that thing shift! Every gear is like 1st gear, and the speedo gets up to.. uh.. the speed limit, very quickly indeed.

I thought I took it for a much more sedate drive.. but Stu (who was following in the Subaru) tells me I was going faster than Mark  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  Sorry Stu!  s;) ;) s;)


I want one.


Now.

 s:) :) s:)

It just feels so right.. neck snapping torque in every gear, but if you're cruising along it's exactly like the standard car just with more power instantly on tap.

I'm in love  s;) ;) s;)

On the downside - my car felt so.. well.. dull on the way home  s:( :( s:(  I mean seriously, it felt like I was driving a Yaris  s:( :( s:(   s:( :( s:(


Did I mention that I want a C2 kit?  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: heathstimpson on June 2, 2006, 05:54
That was a late one Aaron  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  Sounds like the bad points will soon be forgotten Stu when you play with your new toy  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  How does it compare against the TTET  s:?: :?: s:?:  It's nice to have mates like Mark and Aaron who have put a lot of effort into helping with the install; good on you lads  s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: markiii on June 2, 2006, 07:49
well just to add to teh comments above,

comparing to all of teh Hass kits that I've driven, I have tosay wow

nice job Gas

it's insanely quick at only 5psi, seriously it's quicker than any of teh hass at that boost pressure

has zero lag, idles so much nicer, has a gorgeously purposeful exhaust note that is just right in volume.

I am seriosuly impressed.

not mention that we started off with an airfiltyer making noises like a squrell on acid (Marks impression of said squirel coming up, courtesy of Stus camera soon  :-) :-) :-) )

it's very very nice


need to get mine back on teh road now
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Post by: Liz on June 2, 2006, 09:10
Just spoken to Stu and I could hear the exhaust note in the background - very nice too....
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Post by: spit on June 2, 2006, 09:24
(http://cgi.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow/characters/images/louis_balfour2.jpg)
MMMM....great!

I want another C2  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

You guys must have seriously grafted over the past few days. Proud of you all.

Quote from: "aaronjb"why is it that it's physically impossible for me to leave Mark's before 1.30am?
Probably the leg irons Aaron  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  .... or are they over at Dan's place? I forget!

Really really made up for you Stu. Sparing a thought for Lee too - he put a lot into that kit.

group hug!
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Post by: TommyD on June 2, 2006, 10:43
It must be good if Mark is impressed. Just to add to what has already been said. Well done to the mechanics involved, enjoy your new car Stu, I still find it hard to go a day without a quick blat around town. Now all we need is that Surrey Turbo meet......Phil
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Post by: Ernie Ball on June 2, 2006, 10:55
Congrats, Stu!  You must be delighted.

And well done to the "crew."

The envy around here is palpable.
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Post by: philster_d on June 2, 2006, 13:58
C2 still going strong here 3k miles and counting.

Today I beat a motorbike   s:) :) s:)  and he put his knee on the floor through 2 corners before I overtook and F'ed off    s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 2, 2006, 15:02
ok heres a few piccies, i've not taken any yet of the completed job as i've been too busy playing  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  but surfice to say as Mark has already said its insanely quick for such a small car. After the first 200miles on boost i've got a small oil wheep on the turbo outlet flange but other than that were good  s:D :D s:D  which is surprising seeing the amount of engineered bodges we put in!!! part of the air inlet tract is actually a can of WD40 and the oil inlet was made out of a union with some liquid metal and a football inflation needle in it and thats not to mention the tin can on the exhaust  s:? :? s:?  
all in all the process was about as stressful as it gets but the outcome is stunning, Mark wasn't kidding when he says they'res no lag whatsover, its fast as hell. I've got a CEL at the mo due to an issue with removeing the 1-1 bank o2 sensor but other than that i should be in for some long term boosting.

(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI7.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI8.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI9.jpg)
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(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI11.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI12.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI13.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI14.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI15.jpg)
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI16.jpg)
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Post by: red_leicester on June 2, 2006, 15:42
Looks like you lot did a great job.  Look forward to hearing more about it Stu.

Now here's a question... did you do any research in how much it would cost to get the C2 kit fitted ?  (We don't all have access to a pit and 4 mechanically-minded mates   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  ) I'm guessing MrT wouldn't do it, but maybe a Jap specialist ?  Like Rogue ?

Cheers
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 2, 2006, 15:46
i personally didn't, as you mentioned i asked a very nice man if i could borrow his garage but i will guarantee that someone like Rogue or 3s will do the install for you. I doubt that SP or Thor will as they have they're own kits though
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Post by: philster_d on June 2, 2006, 16:24
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI10.jpg)

watch out stu hes looking dodgy, possibly trying to stick the turbo up his jumper when no one is looking.
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Post by: philster_d on June 2, 2006, 16:29
I think Thor might.

I thought they sorted out Dans Hass instal after he was struggling with a few issues for a while.

Phil
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Post by: Liz on June 2, 2006, 16:38
(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI10.jpg)

I thought a good caption would be

"this is almost as hot as Dans bottom!"  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: philster_d on June 2, 2006, 16:52
remember the burger burgler from McDonalds adverts ?    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 2, 2006, 17:15
Quote from: "philster_d"I think Thor might.

I thought they sorted out Dans Hass instal after he was struggling with a few issues for a while.

Phil

Thor have got to be some of the nicest people out there, they really went out of they're way to try and find a new oil fitting for us, even if they did fail they seemed to go that bit extra, they'll be my choice for the tune, as for issues, as i said i've got a small weep and thats it, no issues at all

Yet  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: philster_d on June 2, 2006, 17:23
I was also thinking of them for my mapping.
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Post by: aaronjb on June 2, 2006, 17:24
Quote from: "Liz"(http://www.tandridgecanoe.co.uk/roadster/TI10.jpg)

Wow, who's that handsome guy, and is he in this club?

See, that's what I read...

 s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  (Had to change the subject somehow!)

Quote from: "kanujunkie"Thor have got to be some of the nicest people out there, they really went out of they're way to try and find a new oil fitting for us, even if they did fail they seemed to go that bit extra, they'll be my choice for the tune, as for issues, as i said i've got a small weep and thats it, no issues at all

Yet  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

Be positive Stu, positive  s;) ;) s;)  No "Yet"..

You'll be fine  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: markiii on June 2, 2006, 18:10
I reckon expect circa £1000 to install, you might if you get lucky get a tune included as well
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Post by: markiii on June 2, 2006, 18:11
oh and just in case there was ever any doight the build quality of this kit is in another galaxy to teh Hass
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 2, 2006, 18:14
i'll go for that as well, but you must get it camcoated for durability and looks
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Post by: loadswine on June 2, 2006, 22:22
Well done guys, that looks a brill install. I don't doubt you've worked like mad to get this done. Respect!  s8) 8) s8)  
Looking forward to a spin when you are over this way Stu.
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Post by: spit on June 2, 2006, 22:48
Quote from: "red_leicester"Now here's a question... did you do any research in how much it would cost to get the C2 kit fitted ?

For that personal touch, Gas has been known to leave Budapest to do installs around Europe at very reasonable rates, so that's another option that you can discuss with him when you place your order next week  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Gazz on June 2, 2006, 22:59
Nice one Stu. Glad to see your impressed and enjoying the C2, I'm sure you'll get as much fun out of it, if not more (mmmmm 10 psi....) as I do out of the TTET.

Think you owe your workforce plenty of beers for the help with the install   s:) :) s:)
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Post by: red_leicester on June 3, 2006, 07:44
Quote from: "spit"so that's another option that you can discuss with him when you place your order next week  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

There's going to be more turbos on this site than N/A soon   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

It is so tempting...
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 3, 2006, 09:46
Quote from: "red_leicester"
Quote from: "spit"so that's another option that you can discuss with him when you place your order next week  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

There's going to be more turbos on this site than N/A soon   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

It is so tempting...

dont think about it, just do it!!!!

guarantee you wont regret it  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: ninjinski on June 3, 2006, 15:37
Mate so glad u are enjoying the car and that u took the plunge - Just a quick though - You should look now at fitting the under car bracing from SP that comes with the TTET - It will tighten the car up nicely for you on the twisties... ENJOY    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 3, 2006, 17:22
Quote from: "ninjinski"Mate so glad u are enjoying the car and that u took the plunge - Just a quick though - You should look now at fitting the under car bracing from SP that comes with the TTET - It will tighten the car up nicely for you on the twisties... ENJOY    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D

i'm going a different way to the TTE one, i've got the corkies brace already and the David's bars also do a good job on their own, but i've also bought a set of TTE ARB's with the upgraded droplinks from 2's R US, the combo should make for a comfortable but rigid ride without being OTT.

as for the ride, well i've covered 350miles already and Dan did a few miles in her as well, and apart from a knocking exhaust and the oil issue, she runs a dream. Dan beleives that she's only running a max of 4psi at the mo but thats fine by me whilst i run her in, i guess a boost guage will confirm the truth but that'll have to wait for a bit
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Post by: Liz on June 3, 2006, 17:41
Have you let Ele have a go yet, if so, what did she think of it??
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Post by: Anonymous on June 3, 2006, 18:56
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Dan did a few miles in her as well, and apart from a knocking exhaust and the oil issue, she runs a dream. Dan beleives that she's only running a max of 4psi at the mo but thats fine by me whilst i run her in, i guess a boost guage will confirm the truth but that'll have to wait for a bit

Best turbo'd 2 I've ever driven, tbh. So much smoother as the boost comes in than the Hass (granted it's at very low psi levels), and I'm dead impressed with the quality of the kit + install.

It was so much fun in fact, that I couldn't resist getting the arse out a bit on a nice sweeping corner: Sorry Stu!  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 3, 2006, 22:47
i love it when you get the arse out mate  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Liz on June 3, 2006, 22:48
Quote from: "kanujunkie"i love it when you get the arse out mate  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Ewwwwww!!
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Post by: aaronjb on June 4, 2006, 20:11
Hmm - Mark, have you been selling your phrases to Top Gear?

Clarkson was reviewing the ProDrive P2 just now and said:

"You get this funny noise from the wastegate when you take your foot off the throttle.... It sounds like Squirrels being stuffed into the engine"

 s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  Ahh, memories..

Stu - where's that vid?  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 5, 2006, 07:39
Quote from: "aaronjb"Stu - where's that vid?  s;) ;) s;)

its 3.6Mb and i've run out of webspace  s:( :( s:(
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Post by: aaronjb on June 5, 2006, 10:11
Quote from: "kanujunkie"its 3.6Mb and i've run out of webspace  s:( :( s:(

Bah, mail it over to me and I'll host it  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: aaronjb on June 5, 2006, 11:37
Here we go:

 m http://www.mindserv.co.uk/mr2-images/squirrel.avi (http://www.mindserv.co.uk/mr2-images/squirrel.avi) m

Mark's impression of wastegate chatter on a C2 kit  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 5, 2006, 11:39
cheers Aaron
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Post by: Slacey on June 5, 2006, 11:40
WTF!?  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 5, 2006, 11:43
on the first drive up the road the BOV was sticking, the compressor stall created a sound like a demented squirrel and that was Marks impression of it!!!!!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on June 5, 2006, 11:52
Thats the nearest impression to the actual noise I've ever heard  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: ninjinski on June 5, 2006, 12:34
pi**ing myself laughing at that    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D  

(http://f.screensavers.com/OMS/img/413/Alvin_215.gif)
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Post by: Anonymous on June 5, 2006, 12:57
 s:lol: :lol: s:lol:   I nearly passed out from laughing so hard. Tears streaming down my face.....   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: philster_d on June 5, 2006, 13:17
you guys need to get out more
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Post by: loadswine on June 5, 2006, 15:01
Oh excellent!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:   Mark , you are a talented man!!!!  s:!: :!: s:!:
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Post by: heathstimpson on June 6, 2006, 07:35
Stu how does it sound compared to the TTET  s:?: :?: s:?:  Closer to a NA with H&S  s:?: :?: s:?:
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 6, 2006, 09:27
its less bassy than the NA but still has a roar, the Apexi though is unbeleivable, the sucking noise is huge on acceleration but then on lift off theres the huge release of pressure BOV, it is slightly annoying(over 100dB on release) but still very addictive

its a package that has to be heard, guess i'll be doing trips at JAE then  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: aaronjb on June 6, 2006, 09:43
Quote from: "kanujunkie"its a package that has to be heard, guess i'll be doing trips at JAE then  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

Don't worry Stu, I'll take people out (in your car) when you get bored of it  s;) ;) s;)   s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 6, 2006, 09:47
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"its a package that has to be heard, guess i'll be doing trips at JAE then  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

Don't worry Stu, I'll take people out (in your car) when you get bored of it  s;) ;) s;)   s;) ;) s;)

  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  you wish  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: aaronjb on June 6, 2006, 10:11
Quote from: "kanujunkie"s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  you wish  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Awww  s;) ;) s;)  But you know I don't drive fast....  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: heathstimpson on June 6, 2006, 10:12
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  you wish  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Awww  s;) ;) s;)  But you know I don't drive fast....  s;) ;) s;)
He's promised me the use of his 2 for that weekend  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:    s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 6, 2006, 10:12
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  you wish  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Awww  s;) ;) s;)  But you know I don't drive fast....  s;) ;) s;)

ah huh!
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Post by: philster_d on June 6, 2006, 10:29
Or get a ride in the mean machine   s:P :P s:P
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 6, 2006, 10:32
C2 trips all round then Phil, think we had better fill up before we arrive at JAE  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: philster_d on June 6, 2006, 10:37
gemma is driving the support tanker
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 6, 2006, 10:50
Quote from: "philster_d"gemma is driving the support tanker

chuck a jerry in for me  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: edward.carter on June 6, 2006, 13:12
Quote from: "kanujunkie"C2 trips all round then Phil, think we had better fill up before we arrive at JAE  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
sounds like a plan  s:) :) s:)    will exchange passenger ride for beer (for after obviously   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  )
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 6, 2006, 14:15
Quote from: "edward.carter"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"C2 trips all round then Phil, think we had better fill up before we arrive at JAE  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
sounds like a plan  s:) :) s:)    will exchange passenger ride for beer (for after obviously   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  )

ooohh!!! now your talking  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 7, 2006, 14:11
i've just had an MOT emissions test done on the 2 and heres the results
Fast idle test at 2500rpm
CO  -  0.00%
HC  -  2ppm vol
Lam -  1.007

Natural idle test

CO  -  0.06%

all in all i'm really surprised i thought it would fail as the emanage isn't tuned yet but instead it passed with flying colours
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Post by: ninjinski on June 7, 2006, 14:14
Kewl mate - at least that a worry u dont have - Drive on!   s:D :D s:D
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 7, 2006, 14:16
i'm happy as larry about it all, really, really thought it would fail
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Post by: philster_d on June 7, 2006, 14:35
ooo I hope I have nothing to do for mine.

Guess we'll see in a year.
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 7, 2006, 17:03
Quote from: "philster_d"ooo I hope I have nothing to do for mine.

Guess we'll see in a year.

looks like your maps ok, but its definatly no good for running all the time, the mpg is terrible and the power isn't much better. Me thinks a tune is required  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: spit on June 7, 2006, 17:58
Congrats Stu  s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:  Decent numbers.

I'm confused though - thought you were running the Philster map?  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 7, 2006, 18:08
Quote from: "spit"Congrats Stu  s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:  Decent numbers.

I'm confused though - thought you were running the Philster map?  s:? :? s:?

yep, Phils maps on mine at the mo until i can get it mapped, i'm thinking of going to Thor to get it done
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Post by: spit on June 7, 2006, 18:25
Always best to get it done specific to the car....unless you're poor  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:  

For a quick MPG fix, try the Barcelona map - it solves the very rich idle, holds off-boost light acceleration at 14.7 and uber-boosts at 12-12.5 AFR. But its still basically just the Philster special tweaked on wideband  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

It got me 320 miles from home to Boulogne on a tank (4 hours of driving) with no fuel light.
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Post by: Anonymous on June 7, 2006, 19:18
Quote from: "spit"Always best to get it done specific to the car....unless you're poor  s:cry: :cry: s:cry:  

For a quick MPG fix, try the Barcelona map - it solves the very rich idle, holds off-boost light acceleration at 14.7 and uber-boosts at 12-12.5 AFR. But its still basically just the Philster special tweaked on wideband  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

It got me 320 miles from home to Boulogne on a tank (4 hours of driving) with no fuel light.

[OT] crikey, i'm lucky to get 280 to a tank, and that's N/A!!   s:( :( s:(   [/OT]
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Post by: spit on June 7, 2006, 19:56
I've debated this with the lads before, its barmy. Dunno if its a quirk of the J-Spec ECU but it was frugal N/A too.....or maybe the J-Spec tank is bigger  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  Perhaps its just old codger driving - I'm still on original brake pads   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  and the F1s have lasted for eons.....

Back O/T, I started with Phil's map and it was very very heavy on the sauce. Good news for us if its MOT-friendly though  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  Nice one Gas!
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 7, 2006, 20:34
the 2 second conversion back to Phils map and hey presto were singing  s:D :D s:D
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Post by: spynish on June 7, 2006, 22:58
Think I really am TOO RICH  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  
Not more than 200 miles/tank...
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 8, 2006, 20:43
Quote from: "spynish"Think I really am TOO RICH  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  
Not more than 200 miles/tank...

ouch, i've just worked out mine and it'll be 250miles to the tank. Did you get yours mapped at all?
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Post by: spynish on June 8, 2006, 23:26
Quote from: "kanujunkie"
Quote from: "spynish"Think I really am TOO RICH  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  
Not more than 200 miles/tank...

ouch, i've just worked out mine and it'll be 250miles to the tank. Did you get yours mapped at all?

Of course, by Gas...

But mine doesn't work so well than before, I imagine weather and altitude has something to do...  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on June 9, 2006, 07:32
306 miles from a full tank until fuel light comes on, non-motorway miles
240 mile round trip to Skegness (normal driving on way there, fun  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  driving on return journey) plus 66 miles commuting to work, averaged 35.86mpg.
If I do 50% motorway and 50% commuting then it goes up to 37-38mpg.
Basically, I'm still doing roughly the same mpg with the TTET that I was when the car was standard  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
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Post by: filcee on June 9, 2006, 10:49
Quote from: "DavidM"306 miles from a full tank until fuel light comes on, non-motorway miles
240 mile round trip to Skegness (normal driving on way there, fun  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  driving on return journey) plus 66 miles commuting to work, averaged 35.86mpg.
If I do 50% motorway and 50% commuting then it goes up to 37-38mpg.
Basically, I'm still doing roughly the same mpg with the TTET that I was when the car was standard  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Those sort of numbers are just plain wrong for a real car, even N/A.  With boost, that's just daft.
The '2 is just a winner all rounnd.  Mr T, surely, must have some regrets about putting it out to grass.
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 11, 2006, 21:14
well i've just covered the 1st 1000miles on the turbo and she's still performing beautifully. The oil leak that occured a while back has cropped up again so it looks like a gasket needs to be sourced to fix that but outside of that theres absolutely no issues at all, she runs fine and the performance has caught quit a few people out. Only critisism i have is that the dump valve does become a bit annoying after a while but at the same time its great fun scaring people who are walking up the road  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
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Post by: aaronjb on June 12, 2006, 21:31
Glad it's still working fine  s:) :) s:)

The oil leak - is that the oil return? I can't remember (sorry, not paying attention recently  s;) ;) s;) ).. If so, is the return a flange fitting?  If it is then I think I have a gasket here for that.

Incidentally, seen this?  m http://spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... highlight= (http://spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32155&highlight=) m

Go on... Do it  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: spit on June 13, 2006, 00:53
Quote from: "aaronjb"Incidentally, seen this?  m http://spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... highlight= (http://spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32155&highlight=) m

Go on... Do it  s;) ;) s;)

  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 13, 2006, 08:05
oooooohhhh, well i've got to get the exhaust welded up anyway, i'll have a look into it. The resonator tips would be scrap as they'd be too long but in theory that would be a simple job for H&S to do. ooh you've got me wondering now.
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Post by: edward.carter on June 13, 2006, 08:27
Love that exhaust!!
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 13, 2006, 09:03
i'm wondering about the crash bar though  s:? :? s:?  , would it have to be scallopped out  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: edward.carter on June 13, 2006, 09:05
Id take the chance, its sexehhhh   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: aaronjb on June 13, 2006, 09:06
Quote from: "kanujunkie"i'm wondering about the crash bar though  s:? :? s:?  , would it have to be scallopped out  s:? :? s:?

Yeah - a later post in that thread explains how he manufactured a 'slimmer' bumper bar (as they call them that side of the pond) to fit under the tips.

Although from their position, it does look like you could move them up a bit and get away with it..
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 13, 2006, 09:12
i've got a chromdesign grill on the bak so its easy to see, i'll have a look when i get up later
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Post by: spit on June 13, 2006, 09:31
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"i'm wondering about the crash bar though  s:? :? s:?  , would it have to be scallopped out  s:? :? s:?

Yeah - a later post in that thread explains how he manufactured a 'slimmer' bumper bar (as they call them that side of the pond) to fit under the tips.

Although from their position, it does look like you could move them up a bit and get away with it..

Its feasible, but you'll have to be bob on with the alignment to allow enough movement without vibration and/or melting. If anyone can, H&S can  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

You'll also need to modify a new black heatshield or cut out the old one of course. I wouldn't advise running without - Alberto was caught out by this.(Here) (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7568&start=133&sid=b7d7a2cf23ce57372ec989a74ee9cd7d)
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Post by: philster_d on June 13, 2006, 12:43
(http://194.24.233.106/hungarygas.jpg)
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 13, 2006, 12:51
for info thats Gas's personal 2 that spits fire  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 14, 2006, 18:55
new fault  s:( :( s:(  , coolant leak, and its on the block side of the turbo  s:? :? s:?  

anyone got a spare set of knuckles lyeing around?
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Post by: aaronjb on June 14, 2006, 19:43
Quote from: "kanujunkie"new fault  s:( :( s:(  , coolant leak, and its on the block side of the turbo  s:? :? s:?  

anyone got a spare set of knuckles lyeing around?

Poo - you mean up at that adapter that we had all the trouble with, or elsewhere?

I'm not far from you, can always pop over one evening after work..
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Post by: kanujunkie on June 14, 2006, 19:58
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"new fault  s:( :( s:(  , coolant leak, and its on the block side of the turbo  s:? :? s:?  

anyone got a spare set of knuckles lyeing around?

Poo - you mean up at that adapter that we had all the trouble with, or elsewhere?

I'm not far from you, can always pop over one evening after work..

cheers mate, i'm just going to tighten the connection first but if needs be i'll give you a call and take you up on your offer. and no its not at the adaptor that we had the trouble with, that was the oil return, which i managed to get a seal for today  s:D :D s:D  , its not a gusher luckily, just another small weep
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Post by: aaronjb on June 14, 2006, 20:00
A gusher hey?  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  ahem!

Anyway - I didn't mean the oil ones  s;) ;) s;)  Remember the coolant hose that was split? You must - you were the one who went off and bought the replacement hose  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: kanujunkie on July 30, 2006, 16:27
heres a copy of the 02 sensor mod for the current C2 kit, this will allow the o2 wireing down the RHS of the engine block to become the 3rd 02 and the line down the left of the block splits to feed the ECU with info for bank 2 sensor 1 and bank 1 sensor 1.  if done on the optional e-manage harness will allow the wireing to be returned to stock easily. Other advantage is that you will not damage any O2 sensors wireing, plus it will leave you with 1 spare standard O2 sensor

Click here (http://www.stuandele.co.uk/mr2roc/C2_O2_sensor_mod.jpg)

note:- there is a shorting link fitted to the old 3rd O2 sensor socket pins 3-4. An Amphenol for crimp is the perfect size to cutdown for the job, then just tape over the socket