I got Yokohama's but everyone else i know got Bridgestone Potenza's
Any ideas?
i got Yoko's too.. our guess is that its what ever is cheaper at the time! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Bridgestone Potenza RE040's on mine.
Kris - Do you have the model number, i'll do some kinda comparison chart of reviews!!
If we have been given cheaper tyres i want mine changed under warranty lol!!
James.
ummmm not sure - they are on the car which i dont have right now! s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
I think they are A049 or A045... something like that. Im sure someone with a 03 on yokos will correct me with the right code! s:D :D s:D
Yokohama A043
AFAIK, they are the primary tyres and used whenever available. Bridgestone RE040 is the backup...
They are pretty similar though, no need to worry about either one s:) :) s:)
Oh right, that's interesting, guess there has been some kinda shortage of the Yoko's recently then?
Bridgestones on our 2001, and they are still on there 29K later with life left in them! (lots of motorway miles s:( :( s:( )
Think we are going to change them soon anyway, what's the recommended rubber?
Good point Dan. We have had this thread before somewhere, but there was no definitive answer. I reckon its all down to personal preferance, but after a few people here recommended them, I might go fot the Good year F1's this time round.......
My '02 model had Yokos as stock. I'm now running Toyo Proxes T1-S and would highly recommend them.
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Quote from: "John Woodward"I might go fot the Good year F1's this time round.......
Those seem to be pretty good tyres, but you can't get any reasonable sizes for MR2...
Quote from: "Tem"Yokohama A043
AFAIK, they are the primary tyres and used whenever available. Bridgestone RE040 is the backup...
They are pretty similar though, no need to worry about either one s:) :) s:)
I've got the yoko's now on my 2003, but had bridgestones on my 2002...
As for which rubber, then opinion is always divided here when this matter comes up, as it depends on what you use them for and how you like the car to feel/drive. A lot of people go for bridgestone s03's, but a few recently have recommended toyo t1's and eagle f1's.
I love my stock Yokos. They'll do anything in the dry (well, anything I ask of them). They are however a total nightmare in the wet IMHO, but I haven't got any other RWD roadster type car to compare with, it might just be how it is?
J
Quote from: "Jimbob"I love my stock Yokos. They'll do anything in the dry (well, anything I ask of them). They are however a total nightmare in the wet IMHO, but I haven't got any other RWD roadster type car to compare with, it might just be how it is?
J
Toyos are
much better in the wet than the Yokos, just as good in the dry but more progressive for some great,
safe, sideways fun!
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TEM Wrote:QuoteJohn Woodward wrote:
I might go fot the Good year F1's this time round.......
Those seem to be pretty good tyres, but you can't get any reasonable sizes for MR2...
I thought you could Tem? I am on stick wheels on an '00 and they are 185/15 and 205/15 and I am sure you can get these sizes. At least I thought I saw them on the Goodyear website......
Quote from: "Jimbob"I love my stock Yokos. They'll do anything in the dry (well, anything I ask of them). They are however a total nightmare in the wet IMHO, but I haven't got any other RWD roadster type car to compare with, it might just be how it is?
J
Poor wet performance is standard on Yoko's in my experience. I owned an MX-3 in tha past, and that came with Yoko's. If the sun even went behind a cloud, the tyres seemed to lose grip. Or maybe it was my driving s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Anyhoo, I swapped the fronts for Bridgestones (it was a FWD car, so the rears took forever to wear out), and that made a big difference to the grip at the front.
Quote from: "John Woodward"I thought you could Tem? I am on stick wheels on an '00 and they are 185/15 and 205/15 and I am sure you can get these sizes. At least I thought I saw them on the Goodyear website......
John I started out with the Yoko's but changed over to Goodyear F1's. They were a lot more predictable in the wet, and also when the back does break away now it is a bit more progressive. I was able to get them in the 00 sizes (185/55/15 Front and 205/50/15 Rear) although these were the GSD2 variant (Apparently not as good as the GSD3's - altho these are much more limited in sizes).
Quote from: "dancarbon"Bridgestones on our 2001, and they are still on there 29K later with life left in them! (lots of motorway miles s:( :( s:( )
Think we are going to change them soon anyway, what's the recommended rubber?
Mate you've done well with your bridggies! i've clocked up 16k on my '02 car and i'm down to about 3mm. I reckon my 20k service bill will be quite hefty!
i've been told the bridggies are much better than the yoko's. The Yoko's have a softer rubber compound so although great in the dry, they are not that great in the wet - esp as you're driving around on greasy damp roads. I believe Nissan's R34 (Skyline) comes with 040s as standard too.
Martin
Quote from: "John Woodward"I thought you could Tem? I am on stick wheels on an '00 and they are 185/15 and 205/15 and I am sure you can get these sizes. At least I thought I saw them on the Goodyear website......
The old model had proper sizes...GSD2 or something. But that's not available anymore, at least not over here. And the current model GSD3 only had 195/55/15, the rest being 16" and bigger.
I had the GDS3's on my old alloy's ACE 197's 17" 205/45/17
They were nothing short of awesome, the worst tyres i think were Falken ZE512's they were dangerous!
Can someone remind me of tyre sizes for the 03?
Ta
J
Sam wrote:QuoteJohn I started out with the Yoko's but changed over to Goodyear F1's. They were a lot more predictable in the wet, and also when the back does break away now it is a bit more progressive. I was able to get them in the 00 sizes (185/55/15 Front and 205/50/15 Rear) although these were the GSD2 variant (Apparently not as good as the GSD3's - altho these are much more limited in sizes).
Hmmm....Ok. Can you still get the GSD2's then or have the GSD3's superceded them? These seem to be a lot of people's choice, but even after all these recommendations, I am still quite confused. I don't want to buy a set of tyres, put them on and then hate them. So, I have a lot of thinking to do..........might just stick with the Bridgies and see what they go like......... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
John,
GSD2 and GSD3 are still available though getting the D2 in a size that the better D3 is available in may prove challenging.
I have the D3's on 17" at the moment and they are brilliant. I'm going to try the Eagle Venturas on 15" next as they aren't far off and the D3 don't come in 15" sizes.
I'd say your choice on stock 15" is best kept to
Eagle F1 D2
Eagle Ventura
Toyo Proxies
Bridgestone S03 (You'll have to get 195 for the front though as they don't do a 185)
Any of these will be so much better than the stock RE040 that you won't beleive it until you try it.
Trust me the RE040 is poo in comparison.
Plus the cheapest of these is the Toyo Proxies at £44 each so they can actually be cheaper as well.
w www.mytyres.net (http://www.mytyres.net) w .
Mark.
Mark, that is excellent stuff. Thanks a lot for that. Much appreciated!
John, you know how you always agree with me?... Well I have Toyo Proxes T1-S. I think you know what to do...
s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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'Core,
I know you have told me about these Toyo's on a number of occasions, and I do not doubt what you say, but, there are a couple of things that bother me....
1) Surely, with tyres, you pay for what you get. If Toyo's are cheaper, then are they any better?
2) I HAVE heard of them, but they are not a BIG name manufacturer and personally, when it comes to tyres (as lets face it, probably the most important component of your car) I am a bit more inclined to go to a manufacturer of name.
Am I being prejudiced and narrow minded? Or are these reasonable questions to raise? Basically, what pedigree do Toyo have?
Also, as it might be a bit hard for me to get the tyres delivered from somewhere like, say, mytyres.co.uk, I MIGHT have to go to a place like, god forbid, Kwik fit or something, and I guess they won't have these in!!! s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Quote from: "Hardcore"John, you know how you always agree with me?... Well I have Toyo Proxes T1-S. I think you know what to do...
s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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can you get these in the new 16" rear size though? i searched that mytyres site and they only gave me 5 types for that size.. none of which were Toyo?!?
Quote from: "John Woodward"1) Surely, with tyres, you pay for what you get. If Toyo's are cheaper, then are they any better?
Normally I'd agree, I had heard of Toyo for a while, since TVR took them on as OEM actually, but it was a comprehensive, scientific tyre test done in
evo a while back that convinced me to take the plunge and try them out. All I can say is that I'm very happy with every aspect of the tyre I've experienced, not least the value for money. The only thing I can't really comment on is they life span, although my rears have done nearly 8,000 miles now and are still looking very fresh while me previous rears (OEM Yokos) lasted just over 10,000 miles.
Quote from: "John Woodward"2) I HAVE heard of them, but they are not a BIG name manufacturer and personally, when it comes to tyres (as lets face it, probably the most important component of your car) I am a bit more inclined to go to a manufacturer of name.
Fair enough, I respect that, I took the gamble with the Toyos and am very happy. Good enough for TVR, good enough for me!
Quote from: "John Woodward"Am I being prejudiced and narrow minded? Or are these reasonable questions to raise? Basically, what pedigree do Toyo have?
They're good questions, at the end of the day it's up to you. Personally Toyo have proved their pedigree to me.
Quote from: "John Woodward"Also, as it might be a bit hard for me to get the tyres delivered from somewhere like, say, mytyres.co.uk, I MIGHT have to go to a place like, god forbid, Kwik fit or something, and I guess they won't have these in!!! s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
You shouldn't have any problem getting Toyos from most tyre fitters, they're not that uncommon!!
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"can you get these in the new 16" rear size though? i searched that mytyres site and they only gave me 5 types for that size.. none of which were Toyo?!?
True, you
can't get Toyos in the '03 rear size,
yet...
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John,
If you want another opinion on the Toyo's then Liz has them. And considering the greif they got at North Weald they wear rather well as well.
mytyres will deleiver to a qwik fit if you want them to. Though I'd clear the fitting with Kwif fit first, at some point they are going to reaslise they make sod all from just fitting them, so not every outlet may be as co-operative.
Mark.
Awe.....you guys.........(sniff).......you're all just sooooo helpful.....I love you all................. s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Honestly, this is all really good stuff and I thank you all for your input!!! I will check out all the possibilities when it comes round to tyre change time (which, according to the servicing bloke at Mr T this morning, isn't going to be that long away!).
Mind you, after what you said about the Toyo's, they do sound like a good proposition 'Core. One more thing on them. What do they LOOK like? I know it shouldn't be a problem, but I can make a difference. The best tyres I had on my Mini's were Michelin's but they looked pants!
If they are good enough for TVR, then they should be good enough for me too!!!
m http://www.toyo.co.uk/ (http://www.toyo.co.uk/) m
Hardcore,
Where did you get your Toyo's from? Just checked the website and they look good!!!
Also, am I correct in thinking the fronts on the pre-'03's are 55 profile and the rears 50 profile? Or are they both 50? I think Sam has already said this, but I could have sworn that when I checked (I have a short memory!) the other day that they were both 50. If so, what size do you have on the fronts? Cos Toyo don't do a 185/55/15 in the Proxes.....I think......i'm going to check that again now............... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
stock sizes
185/55/15
205/50/15
if you have to use 195 on the front go for 195/50/15
Quote from: "John Woodward"One more thing on them. What do they LOOK like? I know it shouldn't be a problem, but I can make a difference. The best tyres I had on my Mini's were Michelin's but they looked pants!
They look great actually, the tread pattern is similar to Goodyear Eagle F1.
Look!...
(http://www.toyo.co.uk/graphics/t1-s_tyre.jpg)
s:D :D s:D
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Quote from: "John Woodward"Hardcore,
Where did you get your Toyo's from? Just checked the website and they look good!!!
I got mine from a local fitter called Motorsport Wheels (http://www.mswuk.com), they are a chain so check their Web site to see where else they are. The rears cost me about £45 each, fitted, including VAT IIRC.
Quote from: "John Woodward"Also, am I correct in thinking the fronts on the pre-'03's are 55 profile and the rears 50 profile? Or are they both 50? I think Sam has already said this, but I could have sworn that when I checked (I have a short memory!) the other day that they were both 50. If so, what size do you have on the fronts? Cos Toyo don't do a 185/55/15 in the Proxes.....I think......i'm going to check that again now............... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Pre '03 fronts are 185/55/15 OEM, Toyo
do do this size in the T1-S.
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Mark, thanks again! I must have read funny on mine, cos I could have sworn they said 50 profile. So I CAN get the Toyo's then! Wicked!
Anc cheers for the photo Hardcore. I had a quick look on the website just as you posted that and they DO look good. Like you said, a bit like the F1's, so I might have to go with these. I'll check the site and see where the nearest one is. This is all fantastic info lads. Brilliant!!! Buy you all a pint when I see you (whenever that will be. Not going to JAE!!!! s:cry: :cry: s:cry: s:cry: :cry: s:cry: )!!! s8) 8) s8)
Bugger! Just had a look aty MotorSportWheels and the nearest one to me is in London! the only other feasible one is in Wednesbury in the Midlands, as it isn't actually that far from my home town in Dudley and I can maybe get them fitted there when I go to visit my Dad one weekend maybe?......... s:? :? s:?
Might see if I can shop around though and see what I can come up with. I am beginning to like these Toyo's a little more..........especially if they are cheap!
Quote from: "John Woodward"I am beginning to like these Toyo's a little more..........especially if they are cheap!
Ah, another tempted on to the dark side!
s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
I was actually first supported in my liking for Toyos (before I bought them) by another '2 owner over on the
evo forum, although I don't think he's on here (Anthony, you here??...).
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Well, if they are as good as you reckon and Liz does too, as well as TVR and the blurb on their site is good......they are cheaper too......then hey, why not?!!! If I can get them for the price YOU paid, then I will be WELL pleased!!! I do like the look of them too!
Bit blinkered me............
I don't think you'll be dissapointed if you do go for them. I will stick with them now but if you didn't like them, for whatever reason, you can easily change after a few thousand miles, just so you feel you've got your money's worth.
But I'm sure that won't happen, they're great!
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Well, by the sound of it, I reckon I have got a buyer if I didn't like them!!! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Nah, I think the Bridgies are "ok" on at the moment, but I kinda feel I want something with a bit more grip. I know the grip levels with our car is good anyway, but sometimes I do feel it needs a little more "bite". Get what I mean? If they Toyo's are as good as you reckon, then they will give me a little more bite in the dry and by the looks of it, a lot more grip in the wet. After what happened with my Mk1, I still get paranoid about going out in the wet in this one. I'll hoon it around with the best of them in the dry, but I lose ALL confidence in it in the wet.........hopefully, these will help....
Oh, and I have found a Toyo dealer in the next village along from me! WhooHOO!!!
I don't know what the Toyos are like compared to the Bridgestones 'cos I never had them, but they are much better in the wet than the Yokos.
The Toyos possibly don't have the absolute grip in the dry of the Yokos (in terms of maximum lateral G's, I'm not sure, but they are very close all in all) but they are so much more progressive and predictable that you will probably be willing to approach their limit a lot more than you did with the Yokos, which were, IMHO, scary!
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Well, that is good enough for me, cos it is a good compromise on the Bridgies and I don't have the Yoko's to compare to. I don't think I can go TOO wrong if they are recommended and are a bit more progressive. By the looks of it (and from what you and others have said), the characteristics are pretty much similar to the F1's too, with the F1's maybe edging the out and out grip, but not by a lot, but with the wet performance not as good. I'm quite happy to meet in the middle!!!
I'm getting the S03 Bridgies myself...couldn't get the 195 (finnish importer doesn't have any and quotes 6-8 weeks wait). Got 205 and 225 instead...hope it turns out ok...
(actually wanted Colways, but they seem to be factory order stuff and I need tyres now)
I fitted Eagle F1's at 15k and have since done a further 15k including 4 track days
Excellent road holding on all surfaces and in the wet
Fronts are still OK (6 mm) but after an airfield day at Binbrook the rears will have to go and be replaced with the same before a driving holiday next month in (sunny) Scotland
Quote from: "Tem"I'm getting the S03 Bridgies myself...couldn't get the 195 (finnish importer doesn't have any and quotes 6-8 weeks wait). Got 205 and 225 instead...hope it turns out ok...
(actually wanted Colways, but they seem to be factory order stuff and I need tyres now)
Tem, Can you get 225 on the rear 6.5" rim?
Yeah...205/50 is recommended to have a 5.5-7.5" wheel and 225/50 6-8" wheel. Half an inch wider would probably be better, but can't afford lightweight wheels right now..