MR2 Roadster Owners Club

Hi All,

Just thought I'd give you an update on my MR2 TTE turbo I bought Jan this year. It's my first MR2 and I've got to say I've been hugely impressed. I've driven 6000 miles and done 7 track days and I've enjoyed every mile. Trouble with track days though is they lead you down that slippery slope of modifications and it's that slope I've well and truly slid down! The car was a little tired when I bought it but I'm well under way sorting that out! Every track day lead to more and more mods and a new vision for the car was formed, a 2ZZ turbo charged, stripped out dedicated track/race car. The project is now well under way at Rogue.

Modifications i've carried out over past 6 months

Brake pads – I initially fitted Carbotec Panther Plus front and rear. After wearing them out in 5500miles I've switched to Panther XP8. Both sets are awesome, the XP8 exceptionally so, can't believe the braking power from a standard set up. Panther plus faded after very hard sustained use on track, hence why I've switched to Panther XP8.

Suspension

CHE rear track arms, trailing arms and control arms.
Front polybushes
Cusco front and rear brace
Whiteline drop links

Interior

Removed soft top, radio, central console, rear storage, spare wheel and surrounding plastic.

Fitted 300mm Sparco steering wheel. Looks great, weights the steering nicely and most of all I now don't bang my legs with my hands when putting on large amounts of lock.

I've been stock piling parts over the past 6 months and as of 2 weeks ago fitting was started by Rogue (The TTE turbo kit and Tein SS are coming off );

2ZZGE engine
6 speed gear box and TRD quick shift
OS Giken flywheel and twin plate clutch
Link G4 ecu
CHE cast iron turbo manifold (ceramic coated)
Garrett GT28RS turbo (ceramic coated)
Moroso oil pan and accusump
CWX oil pump gear
Charge cooler
Gearbox cooler (water to oil)
Oil cooler (Water to oil)
525 injectors
255 flow fuel pump, fuel return line etc
6 point roll cage
Recaro Furious seats
BC Racing RM Coilovers
Varley Red Top 15
ARP bolts
Tarox G88 discs
Race Technology Dash 2 and data logger (fits nicely in the MR2 Sat Nav pod)
Toyota replica body kit and duck tail spoiler.
Switching from Yokohama Advan Neova to Toyo 888. Neova's are superb for a road track compromise but the time has come to switch to track rubber.
All brackets and packaging being designed and fitted by Rogue

The information I've gathered from MR2ROC and Spyderchat has been invaluable in helping me make decisions on where to go with this project. I'm currently looking at news wheels and entering that mine field of offsets!

I'm currently on paternity leave so I'm not on line that regularly so I've asked Patrick from Rogue to add some pictures and updates on progress.

without sounding like a vulture :p are you selling your old turbo? sounds like a great build, you are in good hands with Rogue. Get some piccys up of the beast! Will it be the first turbo 2zz mk3 in the uk?

Those carbo's must of got some serious abuse! Great pads though, how is the noise on the xp8's?

Sounds like an awesome project. You've definitely ticked all the boxes on the spec sheet.   s:D :D s:D  

Standard compression?

Look forward to following this. Keep us posted!

As the others said. sounds like it will be awesome. A proper track machine. Hope you can keep this updated and look forward to pics. You definitely have picked the right components to make an great set up.

What led you to wanting to cool the gear box oil? Have you found it get very warm on track use?

Also looking at the dash module you've picked. looks like a nice unit. Will in integrate with the link?

Hi All,

Simon has asked me to contribute to this thread with pictures and technical information. I'll do my best for you all, but as this is a race project there may be some information that has to remain confidential. The design brief is that the car should be flexible enough to be used for a variety of different tasks - trackdays, short sprints (~20 minute wheel to wheel races) and endurance racing. One of the key focuses therefore has been on the oil control systems, hence the laminar flow coolers and accusump. The requirement for a gearbox oil cooler comes on the back of our experiences with the C64 gearbox in our Britcar racer, which returned from race duty with scorched internals!

Pictures:

The project begins. All rear panels are stripped off the car as we'll be working extensively in this area:

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1ZZ-FE Engine and TTE turbocharger in situ:

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Dropping the engine and gearbox from the car (the more observant of you will notice a guest appearance by Philster's rear bumper):

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TTE turbocharged engine bundle, in need of a new home!

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2ZZ engine with Moroso Oil Pan, modified exhaust manifold and GT28 ball bearing turbo installed:

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OS Giken Flywheel mounted:

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Moroso Oil Pan, and oil take-off sandwich plate:

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Polybushed engine mounts:

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Mocking up chargecooler pipework using a mk2 MR2 core with engine dummy fitted:

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Stripping out dashboard and interior:

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Modifying the heater system to remove air conditioning section but still have functionality:

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Trial fitting new rear spoiler on another roadster with engine cover still installed!

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More interior stripping:

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Carbon airbox mounted behind rear lamp:

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Pipework from airbox to turbocharger:

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Pipework from airbox to intake vent:

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Air feed to engine bay is blanked off:

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Intake feeds pipework:

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Interior sound deadening removal:

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Fuel tank has been removed:

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Removing paint and sealant in preparation for roll cage instalation:

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Engine test fit shows pipework from chargecooler to throttle body installed, laminar flow oil coolers, cusco catch can and oil lines to turbocharger:

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I've got more pictures to post, which I'll do when I have more time. Right now I've got Roadster race car to finish preparing for this weekend!

Patrick

very very nice

so how much for teh engine and turbo bundle?

All i can say is MONSTER!

You'll need a pair of these to wear to do it justice (carefull Russ, they're right up your street)

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Thanks for all your replies and to Patrick for the pics. Between Patrick and I we'll keep you updated on progress throughout the build. Just can't wait until it's finished! It'll certainly test my driving skills and probably show me I can't drive!

I've been doing track days now for approx 4 years and if you get serious along with brakes and suspension cooling is one of the most important areas to pay attention to if you want the car to last (I've found this out the hard way!).  

For now I'm keeping standard compression and low boost. Ultimately I will be looking to lower the compression to run 300bhp+  and hopefully race the car next year. For now I just want to get the car up and running!

The brakes did get some serious abuse, even the rear ones were shot. I can't take full credit to all the brake wear, that's down to a guy called Eugene O'brien. I've been getting a lot of tuition this year and Eugene can certainly drive! I can't recommend the carbotecs enough, they may be pricy but they are exceptional. The XP8's seen to be virtually fade free even after hours of track abuse. They do squeal but not enough to bother me. If you were doing lots of stop/start driving they may get on your nerves.

I will be selling the TTE turbo kit and Super Street suspension with EDFC, but I'm not sure on price yet. I think the kit is now fully off the car, I'll check with Rogue. Anyone interested can email me on  e dclsphillips@tiscali.co.uk e . Due to the recent arrival of my little girl I'm only on email and the forum sporadically.

christ your moving quick Patrick! Will this be a UK first for a 2ZZ with a turbo?

Is this the CF air box you mentioned to me mate?


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first dibs on the super streets please  s;) ;) s;)

Some of the behind-the-scenes CAD work. Oil cooler mounting bracket:

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Proposed dimensions of chargecooler, including location and orientation of pipework:

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Proposed chargecooler support bracket:

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Patrick

patrick, what package is that you're using?  i use ProE and Inventor

Wow. Proper engineered parts. Man after my own heart.

I take it it's a totally custom charge cooler? If so where are you getting your cores from?

What direction is the flow through the heat exchangers? and which is which? Are you adding an electric pump for the gearbox oil?

Loving this project. If only I had the cash.

Wow that shorts are amazing!!


Anyways, awesome car, lots of cool stuff.
So will this be trailered to races or road legal?

What you doing with all the bits you took out?

It's my car and even i think the shots are amazing, it's looking really good.

The car will be road legal and driven to the track and used at weekends. Next year i'm looking at racing it, i my change my mind about keeping it road legal at that point. Proplem at the moment is i don't have a trailer and don't have anywhere to keep one so i'm going to need to drive it!

I'm going to be sell a great deal of the parts that come off. As i'm on paternity leave and the project is moving so fast i'm going to look at what i keep and what i sell in a few weeks time. The TTE turbo kit and Tein SS will be sold straight away though. The Tein's will be off the car in a couple off weeks.

Is that aircon butchered now or fittable in another car?    *circles*

heh,

Nice plan STP. Best of luck with that.

Philster.

I'm liking this very much   s8) 8) s8)

Wow, this is going to be a monster... make sure you keep us updated on this one  s:D :D s:D

very impressive!  s:) :) s:)  and some great work there by the guys at Rogue, maybe a future MR2 Only Magazine feature?

Quote from: "steveybmr2-173"very impressive!  s:) :) s:)  and some great work there by the guys at Rogue, maybe a future MR2 Only Magazine feature?

Told you it was worthy steve :p

Just read this, truly amazing!

Wow. I'll follow this thread since is on my plans being the first 2zz turbo in Spain...   s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:  

Impacient to see more...  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Some more pictures:

Aluminium box section charge cooler support frame, designed to be structurally very strong whilst at the same time being very light weight. This part of the project is in the early stages, and we are waiting for the custom charge cooler nest to arrive to proceed.

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Final Chassis preparation prior to installing roll cage:

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Front end clean-up work - getting rid of unwanted bracketry and installing fasteners for new.

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Stone chip paint to protect exposed bodywork. The car will be equipped with a flat underbody sheet, but gravel gets everywhere!

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Engine bay packaging and weight distribution considerations mean that we are locating the battery to the front of the car. We're building a bespoke lightweight aluminium frame to hold a plastic battery box containing a Varley RedTop racing battery:

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Patrick

Roll cage trial fitted prior to welding in the feet:

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Welding the roll cage feet in place:

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The much anticipated Rogue Motorsport fan kit:

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Laser cut parts arrive - some parts need bending into final shape:

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Ohh I like that fan kit.

but does it blow down or up?

Quote from: "markiii"but does it blow down or up?

Looks like up from the blades

fighting natural airflow then

Quote from: "markiii"fighting natural airflow then

Airflow on this car will be fully managed, and like most race cars will be pulled from underneath the car and out of the top. We can supply fan kits with either puller or pusher fans installed.

That fan kit really does look like a well thought out and quality piece of kit... much like all the other work being done.  Can't wait to see the figures for this car when you're all done.

this is going to be the mutts nutts. i want one.

Quote from: "enid_b"this is going to be the mutts nutts. i want one.

I hope so! I'm counting down each day, can't wait to take it for a run.

I'm not going to chase horsepower with the car (but somewhere in the high 200's will do!). I want to strike a balance of handling and reliability then develop the car over the next year. May look at a build block over the winter but getting it on the road is the main priority.

I'd love to hear why you decided to go with a turbo'd 2zz rather than a bigger/better turbo'd 1zz. Being an ex TTE owner myself, I recently had to make this desicion myself and went with a 1zz!

Is it a stock 2zz or does it have modified internals?

Jason

Quote from: "muffdan"I'd love to hear why you decided to go with a turbo'd 2zz rather than a bigger/better turbo'd 1zz. Being an ex TTE owner myself, I recently had to make this desicion myself and went with a 1zz!

Is it a stock 2zz or does it have modified internals?

Jason

I've followed you're post and it's a serious bit of kit you're creating! Sorry about the issues you've hit on the way but it seems like you are almost there. I'd be interested in seeing your car when it's completed.

Regarding engine choice, if Toyota made an engine that revved to 8000rpm, sounded like a 6 cylinder, weighed the same as a 4 cylinder, was readily available and didn't cost the earth then I'd have gone for that! As they don't I weighted up pros and cons and used a lot of personal preference.

My original intention was to modify my 1ZZ but after it started burning a fair bit of oil and the gearbox started crunching I was able to start from a blank canvas. As I do a lot of track days the one characteristic I didn't like about the 1ZZ was it was out of breath by 5500rpm. I wanted something that could rev and give a real sports car feel on track. I've driven a few Elise's and I liked the character of the 2ZZ. Initially I'm not looking for big bhp and the 2ZZ with stock internals is able to give me what I'm looking for. Over the winter I may look at internals but for now I just want to get it up and running.

I've modified a few cars in the past and from my experience the problems start when you tackle everything at once. I learnt this the hard way with a number of failed engines after a few thousand miles that were supposed to be 'bullet proof'. There is always some small detail that's missed which ends up being terminal. Rogue has also given me a huge amount of help. They strongly advised from the beginning to build and set the car up on a stock engine and develop it from there. I'm likely to buy another 2ZZ block and have it built over the winter. This allows me to run the 2ZZ turbo set up for a few months to make sure it's right.

Cool, I'd love to see it when it's done! I've had Silverstone Performance's Corrola with the supercharged 2zz a few times. Very nice engine setup! Loads of torque and of course you could rev the nuts off it. I must admit I'm a little worried about your internals for you! I've heard of quite a few turbo'd 2zz failures on stock internals. I'm sure its all dependent on the boost levels etc and I'm sure Rogue know exactly what they're doing!

I'm looking forward to it's completion. Have you thought about joining us at Anglesey come the end of October?

Jason

Quote from: "muffdan"I must admit I'm a little worried about your internals for you! I've heard of quite a few turbo'd 2zz failures on stock internals. I'm sure its all dependent on the boost levels etc and I'm sure Rogue know exactly what they're doing!

The key here is to set sensible goals and sensible limits - the fuelling and turbo on the car will be more than capable of destroying the engine in fairly short order if we push too hard too quickly! Since there's nothing wrong with the 2ZZ we've started with we reasoned that there's nothing really to be lost in running it stock and finding the limits. The most likely failures will only damage components that would be changed or modified anyway, and if the engine turns out to be capable of running the power levels that Simon wants then he's saved the price of a built engine. That said, Simon's requirement for reliability suggests that we'll be building a forged engine anyway but having a second engine core available to swap out means he can get out on the track straight away, and that for 24hr endurance racing we can have a spare engine on standby.   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:   Standard motorsport practice is to have a "pair and a spare" - ie one good engine in the car, one ready to be installed and one being rebuilt. So we're two thirds of the way there!!

Quote from: "muffdan"Cool, I'd love to see it when it's done! I've had Silverstone Performance's Corrola with the supercharged 2zz a few times. Very nice engine setup! Loads of torque and of course you could rev the nuts off it. I must admit I'm a little worried about your internals for you! I've heard of quite a few turbo'd 2zz failures on stock internals. I'm sure its all dependent on the boost levels etc and I'm sure Rogue know exactly what they're doing!

I'm looking forward to it's completion. Have you thought about joining us at Anglesey come the end of October?

Jason

As Patrick said we will be staying within sensible limits. I did a trawl of the internet before starting the project and picked up fairly quickly that the 2ZZ doesn't like high boost on stock internals. However, the levels it seems to reliably take do give significant gains over stock. I know I could have done this with the 1ZZ but my preference is for high revs and torque of A turbo delivery. The whole car is being treated as a project hence why I'm not focusing or concerned about high boost (yet!). I'm considering suspension, set up and aerodynamics to play just as much a part in how I want the car to turn out. I am a little nervous about having an adjustable boost control though, knowing me it's likely to be set on MAX from day one with a blown engine on day 2! I've gone to town on air and oil cooling/management so this should help.

Regarding Anglesey, I'd be really interested in going. I'll need to over come my fear of Angelsey, mid October, rain and crashing first!

More pictures!

Roll cage fully installed and padded:

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Dashboard refitted:

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Fire Extinguisher installed in cubby-hole behind passenger seat:

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Fuel tank fittings:

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Fuel pressure regulator with gauge:

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Accusump fitted:

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Chargecooler shelf / heat shield:

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Engine now at final fit stage:

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You guys are machines!  Looks wicked. When should you upgrade to a fuel regulator?

How do you not get a head ache when you see all those wires, that dash would of given me a heart attack lol.

at the risk of sounding rude, how much roughly is all this costing?

Quote from: "campbell"at the risk of sounding rude, how much roughly is all this costing?

It is going to cost a fair bit of money but i set out with a very specific goal in mind. I started buying parts in January so the cost is spread across 7 months, selling the parts that come off is helping. I've been doing track days for a few years now and was thinking about moving in to racing. i wanted to create a car that could be used on track days and remain road legal this year and then take it racing next year, hence roll cage etc. i'll be moving to toyo 888's on track days from now on, without the cage i didn't feel safe using them. Cornering speeds in an mr2 with 888's are high. Most road cars regularly used on track days especially with track day tyres will suffer from oil surge, i've lost a couple of engines in the past from it. The amount of track days i currently do and the likelyhood of racing meant for me a baffled sump and accusump were a definite, even lotus recommend the accusump on the elise/exige if used on track days. An endurance race is also on the cards for next year where heat management is essentail.

ultimatley though i love cars and only happy when i'm involved in creating what a drive. i could have bought something already prepared but i'd not enjoyed driving it as much. i am in a very fortunate position to be able to to this. Rogue have played a big part in making this all happen and have put in a great deal of hours on the design.

lots of what i'm doing will relate to others as they modifiy their cars but my final goal is fairly extreme so the full build is reflecting that.

Driver's side harness eyelets and stress plates installed:

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Chargecooler core installed:

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Front mounted pre-radiator, matched to chargecooler core:

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Custom gearbox oil pump mounting:

(http://www.roguemotorsport.com/images/misc/simonphillips/pics8/06.jpg)

Gearbox oil pump mounted and plumbed into laminar flow oil cooler:

(http://www.roguemotorsport.com/images/misc/simonphillips/pics8/07.jpg)

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Accusump electronic pressure control system installed:

(http://www.roguemotorsport.com/images/misc/simonphillips/pics8/10.jpg)

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The rear bumper bar is right in the way of where we want the exhaust to exit:

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Problem solved!

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Engine bay fire extinguisher nozzle:

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Quality work there. And one of my questions answered

Any updates on this. Please

Rogue are making serious progress, it's looking amazing! The car was started up for the first time on Wednesday using a base map from their 2ZZ Brit Car. Next on the list is the rolling road set up. There are still a few bits and pieces to do but mapping dependant it won't be long before it goes out on its maiden voyage! I'm like a child at Christmas and can't wait to get it on the road. I'll have a chat with Patrick and ask him to post a few of the latest pics.

The only real delay i've experienced is trying to get hold of Bride seat rails. I ordered then approx 8 weeks ago and they're still no where in site. The UK supplier seems to be as frustrated as i am with the lack of clear info being given by Bride Japan. They always seem to be 2 weeks away and then never arrive. In the interim i've got Rogues Brit car seat rails installed.

Who are you getting the bride seat frames from Si? I know newara do them, but if your still in need speak to Phill over on Driftworks.com or Shaun @ MTbuggies.com

As for your car, it looked lovely from what I could see, the work I could see looked intense and well done, cant wait to see it in the flesh. When does it go in for mapping.

This is absolutely amazing! Congrats for the top notch install guys!   s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:

Quote from: "STP"They always seem to be 2 weeks away .

I feel your pain, my car has felt about 2 weeks away for the last 3 months.

Quote from: "philster_d"

Quote from: "STP"They always seem to be 2 weeks away .

I feel your pain, my car has felt about 2 weeks away for the last 3 months.

I just doesn't feel right, the car is almost there but i have no seat! We've gone to far to put the standard seats back in as the seat belts and mountings have gone. I'm running FIA/Road legal harnesses that don't fit on the standard seats. Rogue have kindly lean't me their seat rail but at the moment i can't see an end date to getting the bride rail. I think i'll give Driftwork at call to see what they can do. I hear the problem links back to the manufacturer.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for your car, hopefully this time you really are just round the corner from it being up and running.

I know Driftworks have a similar seat rail, they may  possibly be able to replicate you theirs for the roadster.

Newara parts  its not them you bought them from If it is them, then try coord  sport too.

Going up to see patrick on monday afternoon let him have a drive in my car, see what he thinks to the hesitation. Hopefully something simple, other than that power fc says everything is spot on.

Quote from: "Ilogik"I know Driftworks have a similar seat rail, they may possibly be able to replicate you theirs for the roadster.

Newara parts its not them you bought them from If it is them, then try coord sport too.

Going up to see patrick on monday afternoon let him have a drive in my car, see what he thinks to the hesitation. Hopefully something simple, other than that power fc says everything is spot on.

I've email Driftworks and Newara parts so i'll see what they come up with. Thanks for the info.

I am in awe!
Amazing work by Rogue,eagerly waiting on the outcome.I am thinking to make a small trip to you guys..  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

STP i am sure you are going to be extremely happy!  s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:  
 Good choice on the BC Ram.I replaced my Tein SS with it and i am very glad i did,especially regarding track duty.The valving of the BC's is much better that the Tein's,i never thought it would be such a big difference.

Quote from: "Christopherathens"I am in awe!
Amazing work by Rogue,eagerly waiting on the outcome.I am thinking to make a small trip to you guys..  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

STP i am sure you are going to be extremely happy!  s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:  
Good choice on the BC Ram.I replaced my Tein SS with it and i am very glad i did,especially regarding track duty.The valving of the BC's is much better that the Tein's,i never thought it would be such a big difference.

I paid my car a visit earlier this week and it's stunning. I actually got to drive it round the block on a very conservative boost, intial impresses are good! Just the final mapping to go and it'll be out on the road. Some of the latest touches really do make the car look special, I'll ask Rogue to update the pictures.

I've read a great deal of posts on your car, it's seriously impressive. With 325bhp it must fly. I'm keeping the boost capped at 8psi on mine until i uprate the internals, thats a job for next year!

Had another peak at your car, the amount of time and effort in this build is second to none. Car as well as looking the part low mean and moody has an evil heart to boot. Cant wait to see it up and about Simon.

What are you doing Sunday? If the car is mapped fancy a trip to RWYB at Santa Pod?

Quote from: "Ilogik"Had another peak at your car, the amount of time and effort in this build is second to none. Car as well as looking the part low mean and moody has an evil heart to boot. Cant wait to see it up and about Simon.

What are you doing Sunday? If the car is mapped fancy a trip to RWYB at Santa Pod?

The build is absolute quality, there's some real attention to detail gone in to it. From my short run around the block the handling felt in a completely different league.

I'm down in Brighton this weekend while the car will be with Rogue. I'll certainly be up for taking it to Santa Pod at some point this summer.

Sounds good, I really liked the exhaust! Looks stock where it came out the rear bumper.

One suggestion, because i don't see any tachometer and you surely need one because the stock one doesn't go over 8K.
 Speedhut Tachometer,really satisfied with the outcome:
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Quote from: "STP"I've read a great deal of posts on your car, it's seriously impressive. With 325bhp it must fly. I'm keeping the boost capped at 8psi on mine until i uprate the internals, thats a job for next year!

Thank you.
 Same here about that job next year..  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Christopher. Thats just beautiful.

Quote from: "custardavenger"Christopher. Thats just beautiful.

Cheers Rob,the main factor i chose it is that it looks stock..at least in daytime.  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

If im right think his got a pretty bad ass set up for the tacho.

Quote from: "Ilogik"If Im right think his got a pretty bad ass set up for the tacho.

I only saw it in the box and was very jealous   s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:

Quote from: "Star_69"

Quote from: "Ilogik"If Im right think his got a pretty bad ass set up for the tacho.

I only saw it in the box and was very jealous   s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:

haha that car is special, I want to see it in action now.

Quote from: "STP"I'll certainly be up for taking it to Santa Pod at some point this summer.

Cool well i think i would be up for a bit of that as well. im sure our cars will have bonded by now.  s:) :) s:)

Quote from: ChristopherathensOne suggestion, because i don't see any tachometer and you surely need one because the stock one doesn't go over 8K.
Speedhut Tachometer,really satisfied with the outcome:




Your tacho's impressive, great fit and i like the colour. I've taken a different route to minimise the number of gauges and get a 8k+ tacho. I'm still keeping the standard dash but i've bought one of these  m http://www.race-technology.com/dash2_2_31.html m , it's been fitted in to an MR2 Navpod. It was cheaper than buying all the gauges i wanted and intergrates in to their GPS data logging equipment.

Quote from: "STP"

Quote from: "Christopherathens"One suggestion, because i don't see any tachometer and you surely need one because the stock one doesn't go over 8K.
Speedhut Tachometer,really satisfied with the outcome:
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Your tacho's impressive, great fit and i like the colour. I've taken a different route to minimise the number of gauges and get a 8k+ tacho. I'm still keeping the standard dash but i've bought one of these  m http://www.race-technology.com/dash2_2_31.html (http://www.race-technology.com/dash2_2_31.html) m , it's been fitted in to an MR2 Navpod. It was cheaper than buying all the gauges i wanted and intergrates in to their GPS data logging equipment.

Si have you thought about switching its location so it is in the actual consol unit itself? only thing I can see being a pain is the petrol reading gauge doing it like that, but would make it easier on the eye, or make a custom surround like this one found in the apexi MR-S

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Quote from: "philster_d"

Quote from: "STP"I'll certainly be up for taking it to Santa Pod at some point this summer.

Cool well i think i would be up for a bit of that as well. Im sure our cars will have bonded by now.  s:) :) s:)

When the cars are back on the road (hopefully for both of us it will been soon!) we should get a date in the diary. I popped round and saw yours on the dyno earlier this week, was looking good.

Si have you thought about switching its location so it is in the actual consol unit itself? only thing I can see being a pain is the petrol reading gauge doing it like that, but would make it easier on the eye, or make a custom surround like this one found in the apexi MR-S

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Not you as well! Patrick's trying to convince me i should ditch the standard dash and replace it with the digi dash. I may do in the future but i've not brought myself round to losing the standard dash yet. At the moment it still feels like an MR2 inside.

Quote from: "STP"Si have you thought about switching its location so it is in the actual consol unit itself? only thing I can see being a pain is the petrol reading gauge doing it like that, but would make it easier on the eye, or make a custom surround like this one found in the apexi MR-S

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Not you as well! Patrick's trying to convince me i should ditch the standard dash and replace it with the digi dash. I may do in the future but i've not brought myself round to losing the standard dash yet. At the moment it still feels like an MR2 inside.[/quote]

cough keep the dash and just replace the gauges with the digi :p best of both worlds then lol.

The old mr2, but you could make a plate for it to fit into would look stock then.

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Have you thought about making a plate up to fill in the passenger air bag hole?

yes he was telling me this stack dash was quite effective.

i saw a guy on IMOC selling some Defi stuff because he had gone over to that. Maybe there are some photos there somewhere.

Phil

I had thought about keeping the dash surround and just replacing the gauges with the digi dash, but the steering while is 300mm and seriously restricts the view. To effectively see the dash would take a bit of surgery. The dash isn't cheap but it really does make sense financially and for space if you want to understand whats going on in your engine.

I only spoke to matt this week about covering the hole where the air bag was removed. It seems the plastic cover forms part of the airbag so seperating the two could end in tears!

Quote from: "STP"I had thought about keeping the dash surround and just replacing the gauges with the digi dash, but the steering while is 300mm and seriously restricts the view. To effectively see the dash would take a bit of surgery. The dash isn't cheap but it really does make sense financially and for space if you want to understand whats going on in your engine.

I only spoke to matt this week about covering the hole where the air bag was removed. It seems the plastic cover forms part of the airbag so seperating the two could end in tears!

in japan their was an option for a second glovebox instead of teh passenger airbag

if you can get it a replacement cover exists

Quote from: "STP"m http://www.race-technology.com/dash2_2_31.html (http://www.race-technology.com/dash2_2_31.html) m

Great choice,A+ product.
Not that i expected less..  s:) :) s:)  

Since your's is purely a track car you should consider removing completely the dash and make a custom one with even less weight.I am also eager to see the weight of the whole car.

Quote from: "markiii"

Quote from: "STP"I had thought about keeping the dash surround and just replacing the gauges with the digi dash, but the steering while is 300mm and seriously restricts the view. To effectively see the dash would take a bit of surgery. The dash isn't cheap but it really does make sense financially and for space if you want to understand whats going on in your engine.

I only spoke to matt this week about covering the hole where the air bag was removed. It seems the plastic cover forms part of the airbag so seperating the two could end in tears!

in japan their was an option for a second glovebox instead of the passenger airbag

if you can get it a replacement cover exists

Thanks for the info, i'll do some investigation.

Quote from: "Christopherathens"

Quote from: "STP"m http://www.race-technology.com/dash2_2_31.html (http://www.race-technology.com/dash2_2_31.html) m

Great choice,A+ product.
Not that i expected less..  s:) :) s:)  

Since your's is purely a track car you should consider removing completely the dash and make a custom one with even less weight.I am also eager to see the weight of the whole car.

I'm keen to see the weight as well. A lot of weight has come out, but a lot has gone back in. We think its going to be around 1050kg without driver. Rogue have been twisting my arm on the custom dash idea, i'm sure over winter i'll give in.

Great project!

Eager to see it in the track!

Quote from: "STP"

Quote from: "markiii"

Quote from: "STP"I had thought about keeping the dash surround and just replacing the gauges with the digi dash, but the steering while is 300mm and seriously restricts the view. To effectively see the dash would take a bit of surgery. The dash isn't cheap but it really does make sense financially and for space if you want to understand whats going on in your engine.

I only spoke to matt this week about covering the hole where the air bag was removed. It seems the plastic cover forms part of the airbag so seperating the two could end in tears!

in japan their was an option for a second glovebox instead of the passenger airbag

if you can get it a replacement cover exists

Thanks for the info, i'll do some investigation.

Found the part,  m http://www.japanparts.com/images/ImageF ... =1&no=1938 (http://www.japanparts.com/images/ImageFromDB.php?base=1&no=1938) m , just need to work out if it fits.

thats the one, and I;ve seen one retro fitted so it should do

Hi guys,
Has there been any update on this amazing project?   s:) :) s:)

Yes, there have been loads of updates to the car - some are still happening - and yet more are planned! Simon's aims for the car have well and truly crossed over into the motorsport arena and he will be competing in the MR2 Super GT series next year ( m http://www.mr2supergt.com (http://www.mr2supergt.com) m ). For this reason, I can't really say anything more about what's been done to the car, or what will be happening to it in the future as Simon wants to keep some information. I'll ask him to post on this thread as I'm sure there's plenty that he's willing to share with you guys!

Cheers,

Patrick

Thank you for the update Patrick! I am looking forward to seeing the progress!   s:D :D s:D

I've just got back from holiday so i'll give a more comprehensive update later in the week with pictures. As Patrick said there have been a great deal of developments over the past couple of months and almost all of them have been motorsport orientated. I'm out on track with it at Bedford on 7th Dec to test the latest additions. It's currently with Rogue having new wheels/tyres, rear wing, front splitter and revised exhaust fitted. There have been some real ups and downs with the car but its turning out to be nothing short of awesome on track. For the first couple of months the car experienced, boost creep, very high oil, water and exhaust gas temps when on track. You got 5 laps before you had to come in. It took a while to get to the bottom of the problem and finally took the fitting of a monster 50mm deep rad, re worked wastegate, electric water pump, reduced boost pressure and remap to sorted the issues. The high EGT's melted the baffles in the silencer and damaged the motorsport cat, hence why a revised exhaust system is needed! With the new mods it'll now do lap after lap while still being just about the quickest thing on track short of a caterham. Other additions since my last post are;
The Race Tech Dash 2 and data logger installed and fully configurated in the MR2 Nav pod
BC Racing coilovers fitted
Replica Toyota body kit fitted
Lowered, by a lot. Inner wheel archs modified
Modified front bumper to increase air flow including a stick on number plate on the bonnet
Accusump configured and working

I'll get some pictures up later this week

Quote from: "STP"Accusump configured and working

What kit did you get and where have you stowed the reservoir? Considering this mod myself if I can keep the weight addition minimal.

Chris

Quote from: "ChrisGB"What kit did you get and where have you stowed the reservoir? Considering this mod myself if I can keep the weight addition minimal.

I can't remember the capacity off the top of my head, but it's an electric kit:

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Some pictures:

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Each time I see si's car I dribble the work that has gone into it is mental. Amazing to see how different it is compared to a stock one. I love the uber girth rear wheels  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  Great work and great car.

Thanks, a serious amount of time and effort has gone in to my car by everyone involved. The car is looking and driving incredibly. There's a lot of fine tuning to do over the winter as well as implementing a number of ideas ready for next years race session.

You may notice on the pictures above some imperfections in the paintwork on the rear bumper. This appeared after my last outing to Bedford when a 'small' explosion out of the exhuast creating 6 feet flames set light to my rear bumper! The high EGT's had melted the baffles and CAT which blocked the exhaust. All sorted now. If there is one bit of advice i could give anyone planning on force inducting their MR2 it's to invest in as many sensors and gauges as possible to understand exactly what is going on with the car. The more information the better. You'll end up with a better map and avoid potential serious engine failure. My engine would certainly not be alive today if it had not been for the sensors.

Out at Bedford tomorrow to test the latest additions so i'm keeping my fingers crossed for dry weather. I'm now running 245 888's at the rear and 215's at the front with a new geometry set up. The torque the car is producing easily overwhelmed and overheated my old 225's. 5 laps in and the rear became very loose. New spoiler and front splitter fitted so i'm looking forward to seeing the difference they make. I've had replica C One side scoops fitted to bring a little more air in to the engine bay and to add to the overall look of the car.

Next additions will depend on how tomorrow goes.

Quote from: "STP"Out at Bedford tomorrow to test the latest additions so i'm keeping my fingers crossed for dry weather. I'm now running 245 888's at the rear and 215's at the front with a new geometry set up. The torque the car is producing easily overwhelmed and overheated my old 225's. 5 laps in and the rear became very loose.

Are you running GG or GGG?

Chris

Quote from: "ChrisGB"Are you running GG or GGG?

GG - Medium hard. It's the control compound for the MR2 Super GT race series.

Quote from: "STP"If there is one bit of advice i could give anyone planning on force inducting their MR2 it's to invest in as many sensors and gauges as possible to understand exactly what is going on with the car. The more information the better. You'll end up with a better map and avoid potential serious engine failure. My engine would certainly not be alive today if it had not been for the sensors.

+1. Sensors have saved my engine too! For the relatively little extra a few guages cost, it's just not worth the risk living without them.

Quote from: "STP"I'm now running 245 888's at the rear and 215's at the front with a new geometry set up.

What profile/rim size are these?

Quote from: "muffdan"

Quote from: "STP"If there is one bit of advice i could give anyone planning on force inducting their MR2 it's to invest in as many sensors and gauges as possible to understand exactly what is going on with the car. The more information the better. You'll end up with a better map and avoid potential serious engine failure. My engine would certainly not be alive today if it had not been for the sensors.

+1. Sensors have saved my engine too! For the relatively little extra a few guages cost, it's just not worth the risk living without them.

So which sensor saved your engines? Was it EGT in both cases?

And I love the car. Really shows what can be achieved. Looking forward to following how it performs in the race series!

EGT, boost and knock sensors/guages saved me!  s:) :) s:)

Quote from: "Captain Vimes"

Quote from: "muffdan"

Quote from: "STP"If there is one bit of advice i could give anyone planning on force inducting their MR2 it's to invest in as many sensors and gauges as possible to understand exactly what is going on with the car. The more information the better. You'll end up with a better map and avoid potential serious engine failure. My engine would certainly not be alive today if it had not been for the sensors.

+1. Sensors have saved my engine too! For the relatively little extra a few guages cost, it's just not worth the risk living without them.

So which sensor saved your engines? Was it EGT in both cases?

It was the oil temp and pressure gauges that brought me in off track before any potential disasters. Rogue then wired the EGT and Boost sensors in to the Dash2 which helped identify where all the heat was being produced - high EGT's and boost creep. The car was then mapped using the EGT info. The past couple of months has taught me how importance EGT's are in the tuning process. However, to answer the orginal question it was using all the sensors being used in conjunction that saved the engine.

Quote from: "STP"I'm now running 245 888's at the rear and 215's at the front with a new geometry set up.

What profile/rim size are these?

I'm running 215/50/15 front and 245/45/16 rear. This is a starting point to help me choose the correct size for next session. The track day yesterday didn't give me much useful info as it rained almost all day. I will say the 888's performed great considering the conditions.

we're up at bedford this saturday if you fancy it. The weather is looking good and there's places left!  s:) :) s:)

Quote from: "muffdan"we're up at bedford this saturday if you fancy it. The weather is looking good and there's places left!  s:) :) s:)

Unfortunately i can't make it, the visiting family at Christmas commitments begin for me this weekend! I'm out at Oulton Park on 16th Dec next week if anyones going.

Hi,

Is your old turbo setup sold??

Andrew

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yep sold it to me, then I sold it on recently.

Hi,
    Where did you get the nifty rollcage?

Quote from: "crashtestdummy"Where did you get the nifty rollcage?

 m http://www.roguemotorsport.com (http://www.roguemotorsport.com) m

I know this is an old thread but its truely amazing! serious engineering and thought gone into this one!