Thats what I dyno'd today.
Quite pleased
Quote from: "uktotty"Thats what I dyno'd today.
Quite pleased
sounds good which dyno? and how much torque?
A roller one and no idea
That seems pretty reasonable to me Russ. Good old Unichip! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Good old unichip was disconnected Nige as it went tits up last week.
Not sure whether to refit it, bin it, return it or emanage it
Ah! Bad old Unichip then! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
That is particularly good then mate, as I think you have an AEM intake and no precats, but no other power adders. Or do you? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
well remembered
AEM
Remus Pipes
No precats and nothing else
in whihc case teh dyno is over reading
Thats what I thought till I asked the guy running it. It automaticaly calculates to flywheel. s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Bugger!! I was just going to buy some mongos to get mine up to153!
Quote from: "markiii"in whihc case the dyno is over reading
+1, and by miles. I'd be after a refund, personally.
Maybe it read his shirt?
Quote from: "custardavenger"Thats what I thought till I asked the guy running it. It automaticaly calculates to flywheel. s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
still has to be calibrated, sounds like they are assuming way too much drivetrain losses
not used to working with scoobies and evos by any chance?
I think the guy running it has sex with the dyno cos as far as he was concerned it's the best in the world and all else is rubbish. Apparently one of the many reasons it's better is because it's self calibrating but it's not the mass roller type. s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
think that rather says it all then :-) :-) :-)
The guy kept saying it was auto calibrating and 100% accurate!
Yeah, he was talking crap. No dyno is 100% accurate unless you take the engine out and do it that way, or you measure the power at the wheels. Unless you've got those measurements as well, then it was a bit of a waste of time.
Maybe I should take the Zed there, be the first 400bhp N/A one in the country! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Might be an idea to know if other cars on the day had readings higher than the owners imagined. That might put figures into perspective. Dynos are a lottery, we read again and again, but comparison with other cars in attendance, is always interesting.
Mine was the only MK3.
Some other feedback
Well happy with my 205bhp, certainly know why my mk1 V6 goes quite well now
Anyhow - 200bhp a the fly aint bad for an n/a engine thats supposedly an "economy" version and has done over 200k miles..
Very happy with my 218bhp on a standard motor
I was well pleased with my best run returning 188.2bhp and a nice flat torque curve
I won't go through all the guy said but he did mention he has a stock saxo whis has 125BHP as stock from factory and thats exaclty what it measures on their dyno so that show how acurate it is. lol
Oh yeah and runs were done in 3rd
I always thought they used 4th, but I'm not sure why. Could possibly be something about trying to get close to1:1 ratio engine to FD? I'm no expert on this stuff though.
Bottom line if everyone had a good day, then superb!
aparently someone didn't but no one is saying what happened.
Now that IS interesting!
I'm wondering if it was the skyline that was supposed to be turning up. Someone said it was the 4 wheel drive version but you could make it 2WD buy removing a fuse s:shock: :shock: s:shock: . Maybe he totaled his diff?
Oh dear!
I've been looking at some of the results from the guys over on twoBrutal and those don't appear to be far off what you'd expect from their setups, maybe a few bhp optimistic, but not miles out from others I've seen.
Oh no they're not too bad other than they were giving crank figures rather than the actually measured wheel figures.
Quote from: "custardavenger"I'm wondering if it was the skyline that was supposed to be turning up. Someone said it was the 4 wheel drive version but you could make it 2WD buy removing a fuse s:shock: :shock: s:shock: . Maybe he totaled his diff?
Depends if it was an R32/33 (viscous center diff, IIRC) or R34 (electronic center diff) (there's a chance I have my years wrong and the 33 has the ATESSA-TS too).. oh, that's assuming it was a GTR, of course.
Mind, either way you'd be a bit nuts to put a 4wd car on a 2wd dyno if you were hoping for realistic figures..
Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "custardavenger"I'm wondering if it was the skyline that was supposed to be turning up. Someone said it was the 4 wheel drive version but you could make it 2WD buy removing a fuse s:shock: :shock: s:shock: . Maybe he totaled his diff?
Depends if it was an R32/33 (viscous center diff, IIRC) or R34 (electronic center diff) (there's a chance I have my years wrong and the 33 has the ATESSA-TS too).. oh, that's assuming it was a GTR, of course.
Mind, either way you'd be a bit nuts to put a 4wd car on a 2wd dyno if you were hoping for realistic figures..
I am getting old and senile I think, but didn't the R32 have an electrically operated clutch to hook the fronts up when the rears started to slip, or was that something else? 154 sounds a little high for decat / exhaust and AEM only. General consensus seems to be add 28 - 30bhp for flywheel figure with the MR2.
Chris
Quote from: "Ilogik"Quote from: "uktotty"Thats what I dyno'd today.
Quite pleased
sounds good which dyno? and how much torque?
Does this show the torque?
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/uktotty/dyno.jpg)
Yeah peak torque about 140ftLb
Torque is the more horizontal of the two lines read on the scale on the right.
Quote from: "ChrisGB"I am getting old and senile I think, but didn't the R32 have an electrically operated clutch to hook the fronts up when the rears started to slip, or was that something else?
I thought (could be wrong, it's been a while) that the 32 (and possibly the 33) had ATESSA (same as the Pulsar/GTIR) which is mechanical torque bias between front & rear, while the later models had ATESSA-TS - electronic torque bias front/rear.
Like I say, could be wrong - maybe they all had electronic center diffs.
Quote from: "markiii"in whihc case the dyno is over reading
yep, most dyno's do overread, you get what you pay for with a dyno.
I got mine done cheaply as part of an owners club and it came out at 139bhp, the car is totally standard and was using oil, with lots of hot air inside the dyno building.
Quote from: "NickNJ"I got mine done cheaply as part of an owners club and it came out at 139bhp, the car is totally standard and was using oil, with lots of hot air inside the dyno building.
Surely being +1bhp on what it's 'supposed to be' isn't too bad of a reading? Although I suppose being 8 years old in a hot building, your car possibly shouldn't be 139.
Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "ChrisGB"I am getting old and senile I think, but didn't the R32 have an electrically operated clutch to hook the fronts up when the rears started to slip, or was that something else?
I thought (could be wrong, it's been a while) that the 32 (and possibly the 33) had ATESSA (same as the Pulsar/GTIR) which is mechanical torque bias between front & rear, while the later models had ATESSA-TS - electronic torque bias front/rear.
Like I say, could be wrong - maybe they all had electronic center diffs.
Back in the day we had something apart and it had a chain driven clutch that engaged the front wheels when the rears started to slip. It was definitely Japanese and four wheel drive and as I have never seen a Pulsar stripped down, it was not one of those. Just had a feeling it was the R32 but could be wrong.
Chris
Quote from: "onion86"Quote from: "NickNJ"I got mine done cheaply as part of an owners club and it came out at 139bhp, the car is totally standard and was using oil, with lots of hot air inside the dyno building.
Surely being +1bhp on what it's 'supposed to be' isn't too bad of a reading? Although I suppose being 8 years old in a hot building, your car possibly shouldn't be 139.
Yeah in reality cars rarely make the figures quoted out of the factory, factor in loss of bhp over the years amongst other things and it shouldn't have been anywhere near 138. Most RR are just a guestimate so pretty pointless.
Quote from: "ChrisGB"Back in the day we had something apart and it had a chain driven clutch that engaged the front wheels when the rears started to slip. It was definitely Japanese and four wheel drive and as I have never seen a Pulsar stripped down, it was not one of those. Just had a feeling it was the R32 but could be wrong.
You could be right - I know the center 'diff' is 'intelligent' on the 33 & 34, so I suppose it stands to reason s:) :) s:) - I always sort of ignored the R32, as I think it looked rather like a Mondeo s:lol: :lol: s:lol: (always wanted an R34, though)
Quote from: "markiii"in whihc case the dyno is over reading
That was my thought too.. With TRD panel filter, downpipe, h+s exhaust and emanage I was on 145bhp.
Then maybe you should do the mods I did, you can get 153.9 then! s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "uktotty"Then maybe you should do the mods I did, you can get 153.9 then! s:) :) s:)
get in
How about an ROC Dyno Day? We haven't had one of those in years.
Phil
Quote from: "evileye_xc"How about an ROC Dyno Day? We haven't had one of those in years.
Phil
Why you feeling confident then Phill?
Quote from: "custardavenger"Quote from: "evileye_xc"How about an ROC Dyno Day? We haven't had one of those in years.
Phil
Why you feeling confident then Phill?
I think power/money spent then Phil could be sitting quite pretty
(money spent on engine mods only mind s:lol: :lol: s:lol: )
Confident once the charge cooler and PFC are done.... and tuned s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Tho now there are some big BIG boys out there who will easily make silly numbers once they are sorted
Phil
Driveability is the key Phil, and that's what the PE delivers. On the twisties its just smiles all the way.
Guess we had better get your plumbing for that chargecooler sorted then. s:wink: :wink: s:wink: