Does anyone know how much Toyota would charge to supply a new Toyota MRS key and code the key to the car?
It is a Japanese Import.
Thanks
£150 plus was a quote I had 5 years or so back.
norman
I bought one from CTP a couple of years ago for £90 so I'd assume he can still get them. It's a shame the £90 key is useless because CTP cut the wrong key code into it and wouldn't send me a replacement unit (so I ended up with a normal key and a useless key with the cental locking button on it).
I can't find anywhere else to get them from, have tried a lot international sellers on eBay just for the shell to put my internals in and no one seems to be able to get hold of them.
Hi,
Who are CTP?
I've just phoned Toyota... they have a local locksmith who can supply a new key for £147. I would need to then go to a specialist to get the key coded to the car so the central locking works.
Can anyone advise of a better option?
Thanks
David
Have you already got one key that works and you just want another as a spare ?
Pete
Basically whats happened is the key (metal part) has come loose from the plastic section. The plastic section is broken.
I need to renew the plastic section.
As I'm just buying the car..... the seller said he would reduce the cost of the car to allow for me to buy a whole new key.
Then you only need to buy a new key and swop the internals, which I presume work
True.
Is there a cheaper method? The car is an Import from Japan.
Quote from: "dlivingstone_19"True.
Is there a cheaper method? The car is an Import from Japan.
Mine was a jap import one button key which only activates the central locking, it only had one key so I ordered a spare off ebay something like this m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-1-SIDE ... 4cf8beb07b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-1-SIDE-BUTTON-REMOTE-KEY-FOB-CASE-BLADE-TOY43-/330590761083?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf8beb07b) m then had the blade cut by a locksmiths shop, so in my case I now have two keys one which works remotely and one manually, if you bought that key you could then transfer the insides of your old key to the new one.
I ended up only paying £10 for the key and cutting
As the mrs does not have an alarm or immobiliser set by the key you do not have to go to any great expense
Hope this makes sense
Pete
Yes it does thank you.
I wonder if a locksmith shop would do this...... I would of thought they would worry that I was getting a key cut to steal a car mayeb.
I'll call around. Cheers
Unless the mrs is different to the uk version, the key Peter has posted isn't quite right. The UK one uses a Toy41 blade rather than the 43 - if you look at your key a 41 will be wider at the bottom than the top
Oh i read through quickly on my phone! I assume that is correct for the mrs then, didnt realise they were just one button
Yes it's for a Toyota MRS. Thanks anyway
I ordered one of those keys from eBay (as per the one you have linked Peter - Toy43) and they're wrong; as has been said they are lowered at both sides (I think they're for the Corolla). I talked to the eBay seller and he said he couldn't get hold of the right ones and gave me a full refund. Not only are they not the right shape, they're also not as wide, not quite as long, the grove is not in the same place and it finishes higher up the key and on top of that it won't even go into the lock, I even tested by putting the front of my key (with the Toyota logo) and screwing it onto the other part of the eBay key and even the button doesn't line up.
I took the key to Timpson's to see if they could do anything and they said it was a completely different key and there was no way they could cut it.
If you found somewhere that did manage to get them and completely change the shape please please let me know as I really want to get a cheap one and change the internals??
Here's my proper key against one of the eBay 1 button ones (which are all the same from my endless searching):
(http://www.azekiel.co.uk/images/keys.jpg)
After all of that I emailed numerous eBay sellers the above pic and asked if they could get hold of it they all said they sold the left one but couldn't get hold of the right hand one. I then gave up...
From a quick look, it looks like the blade number is Toy41 like this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-YARIS-2-BUTTON-REMOTE-KEY-FOB-CASE-BLADE-TOY41-/390329343984?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5ae1711ff0) rather than the Toy43 but I can only find these in the UK 2 button form.
Before you shell out any money at all (beyond a key blank off ebay) please read:
- The MR-S key does not act as an alarm immobiliser in any way.
- The UK Roadster keys DO, therefore it is best to disregard any info to do with a MR2 key unless its a MR-S being discussed
- The MR-S is always accompanied by a CAT-1 aftermarket alarm in this country (it cannot usually be insured without one)
- The CAT-1 alarm will unlock and lock the doors for you
Therefore -
For an MR-S with a CAT-1 alarm, there is no need for any key internals.
Just get a key cut that fits the lock and you're on your way. Should cost less than £10 for the key and cutting combined.
(You're actually better off without the original key internals on an MR-S, as pressing using it can sometimes send the alarm out of sync with the door locks!)
Note: The above does not apply if you have an MR-S without an aftermarket alarm system which operates the door locks.
In relation to where to buy the key blank - I also have stumbled on this one.
The closest I have found is the MK1 MR2 key funnily enough, which is pretty much the exact shape, but a little bit too wide, so could possibly be filed down at the sides. However I haven't got round to doing this last step yet so can't confirm if it'll work.
Quote from: "onion86"If you found somewhere that did manage to get them and completely change the shape please please let me know as I really want to get a cheap one and change the internals??
Just searched through all my old invoices and found that I bought the key blank from Toyota part no 69503A KEY, BLANK £7.16 +vat but that was 8 years ago but I would do some research before you order it just in case as I seem to remember there were 3 different keys for that part no
I'm confused. Ha
All I really need is the plastic section. I can then put my key in the new plastic part.
Quote from: "dlivingstone_19"I'm confused. Ha
All I really need is the plastic section. I can then put my key in the new plastic part.
The blade is moulded into the plastic so you can't buy 'just the plastic', you have to get the whole key with correct blade on it and get it cut. The internals you can change over but unfortunately not the actual key blade.
Thanks for the part number Peter, might check with Mr T and see if they can still get hold of it, I'd assume not any more though but worth a try.
I have the same problem(with my 1 button key),Does anyone know if I get a blank 2 button key fob would I be able to reprogram the 2 button key to operate?
Quote from: "fazzer"I have the same problem(with my 1 button key),Does anyone know if I get a blank 2 button key fob would I be able to reprogram the 2 button key to operate?
Nope, Afraid not!
Please can you explain why
That's similar to (obviously to an extreme) trying to re-program a Ferrari key to open an MR2, the systems are different so it can't be done (annoyingly).
m http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/64319 ... blank.html (http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/643196705/Toyota_1_side_button_remote_blank.html) m
It look like it's the right shape, Toy41, wider at the side, pic show right shape of the blade part...
Need to buy by 20... seem cheap enough though... since my shell broke, might be tempted...
Nice find!
I don't have an MR-S any more but I'm sure there are a few people on here that would be interested if you bought a bulk lot!
How does the blade look on this one as a potential match?
m http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/55303 ... k_key.html (http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/553030784/hot_sale_high_quality_blank_key.html) m
@ ZeroQI: Min order of 5pc is available through some of the other outlets on Alibaba.
toy43 blade on this, not toy41, is is not wider at the base and the center "slit" goes closer to the base than the one on hte side
Not for MR-s. might work on MR2
Both MR2 and MR-S use the same toy41 key, the only difference between them is the 1button or 2button remote.
Some info!!!!!! According http://key.lockcenter.co.jp/mrs.html , there is two keys for the MR-s (MR2 MK3 japanese) (JPY3000 fo shipping=16,500.00 JPY = 163.669 EUR)
. TY-MS01 - ZZW30 1999/10-2002/8
. TY-MS02 - ZZW30 2002/8-
Frequency: 313Mhz (found online toyota frequencies of 313.9Mhz, could be usefull to know the devimal value exactly )
Remote Program: OBP
http://www.autokeytransponder.com/products.php?category_id=169&pn_pr=2 seem to have stuff, but impossible to know if compatible, apart for the "4D-67 Chip" type of reference... If we knew the ref of the protocol and frequency for the two generations of MR-s, would help...4C maybe?
***EDIT*** Partner website CTP http://www.cheaptoyotaparts.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=146&flypage=shop.flypage&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=71 have spare for £139.99. picture is stock, it's the right key. Can also do a valet key for £25 precut
have a simple key i got with the car, written "Silica italy" one side and "toy38rap" the other. seem to cost virtually nothing and is a mecanical copy of the master...
http://www.topkey.lt/en/shop/1-key-blanks/100-key-blank-toyo-9p1-ty35rp78-toy38rap-ty41ap?keyword=Brand%3A+Toyota_
Question, would a key with two buttons like the below work on an 2003+ MR-S ?
http://www.topkey.lt/en/shop/181-transponder-keys-a-more/121-by-category/1565-remote-key-shell-toy41r-2b?keyword=toy41
When a picture shows the section, it's the hole shape in hte ignition switch, or seen from the holding side of the key, so i guess it's a Toy41R (reversed) we need... Therefore http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/643196705/Toyota_1_side_button_remote_blank.html is the wrong shape..
I had only 1 key with remote (whose plastic were failing) and 1 Master key copy (Silca Toy38rap - Getting this is cheap on Fleabay and cost few euros at you local locksmith), also had an alarm fot, but at times, the locking seem to not work until i use the central locking switch inside...
I went to our parner CTP ( m http://www.cheapToyotaParts.com (http://www.cheaptoyotaparts.com) m ), and ordered (costed with shipping fees £169.99 GBP to ireland) a master remote and valet key, and received:
. Master key with One button remote (toyota), need to register it with the ECU [http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=23563&view=unread#unread]
. Toyota valet key
. Silca Toy 41R with ring and red hard paper label hadwritten "Pxxxx" (spare master with code on paper)
http://coremedia.kaba-ilco.com/key-systems/literature_grid/key_download.aspx?File=2012_auto_truck_key_blank_reference.pdf&Attachment=True
Page 85: (i can confirm my Toyota MR-S 2003 Code match the key range P1 to P-2390. the code should be pressed onto the passenger's door lock as well)
MODEL YEARS APPLICATIONS CODE SERIES ILCO/EZ [PLASTIC] EQUIPMENT REQUIRED† SUBSTITUTES
MR2 Spyder 2001-2005 All P1-P2390 TOY57-PT TKO/SDD, OBP Program E or I Service Key TR44
This all is looking rather complicated for something that is really quite simple s;) ;) s;)
I ask CTP already this question and was supplied this link for the J spec keys.
m http://www.cheaptoyotaparts.co.uk/index ... &Itemid=29 (http://www.cheaptoyotaparts.co.uk/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&category_id=204&product_id=146&Itemid=29&vmcchk=1&Itemid=29) m
I believe if you send them some form of proof of ownership and vin numbers they also supply precut saving you the bother. When i questioned bout the remote locking function, i was told that the key comes with a simple set of instructions as to how to program your remote fob yourself quite easily!
Hope this helps.
I gave them a copy of the master key, and they read the code (between P1 and P2390) which allow to create dupes without sending a key, and created a master with remote, a valet key and a master key copy (which i didn't order but attached to it was the Pxxx code). I thought i made that clear and simple, but apparently failed miserably s:D :D s:D
Got two processes prom ctp, the uk one where you replace pressing both button on the remote with pressing the only one button on the mr-s remote, and this one, which did nothing for me. dunno for what this process is
Starting sequence:
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Unlock door
Open Driver's door (Key plate not inserted in ignition key cylinder).
Insert key plate into Ignition key cylinder, and then remove it.
Within 15 sec, move the door control switch 5 times to LOCK then UNLOCK at 1s intervals (10 press total).
Within 15 sec, close then open driver's door.
Within 15 sec, move the door control switch 5 times to LOCK then UNLOCK at 1s intervals (10 press total).
Insert key plate into ignition key cylinder.
Programming Mode Selection:
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Turn the ignition switch from ON to LOCK at 1s intervals:
. 1 time(s) for Add mode
. 2 time(s) for Rewrite mode
. 3 time(s) for Confirmation mode
Remove key plate from ignition key cylinder
The receiver perform the Lock-Unlock operation
Confirmation mode: From 0 to 4 times at 2 sec intervals to indicate the number of registered codes. Then it returns to normal mode.
Add mode: Once at 1 sec intervals
Rewrite mode: Twice at 1 sec intervals
Programming mode:
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Within 15 sec, press transmitter switch for at least 1 sec.
Within 03 sec, the receiver perform LOCK-UNLOCK once to inform it has received the signal from the transmitter
Within 15 sec, close then open driver's door, and press transmitter switch for at least 1 sec.
Within 03 sec, the receiver performs LOCK-UNLOCK to inform it has received the signal from the transmitter:
Once: Registration of recognition code is completed
Twice: Registration of recognition code failed
o First and Second code didn't match
o Code already registered
Loops back to Programming mode to add or rewrite more codes or exits if:
15 sec elapses since the receiver last response
Driver's door is closed
Key plate inserted in ignition key cylinder
4 recognition codes are registered at one time.
Weird thing is, i do the normal uk process, if i use my first remote it sees it, if i use the one ctp made, nothing happens when pressing the button, apart a small light flashing on key when pressing... what could i possibly be doing wrong?
The original pairing process worked using 1 button instead of two, but you do seem to have to respect the two pressing time at the end
There is two separate key electronics for the import MR-S, beware. one for pre-facelift, one for facelift models.
I do also have a toad remote, with no passcode. getting the serial number on the alarm (no clue where in the car it is) and toad support can give you the code to reprogram it...