Ladies and Gents,
Having just test fitted one of the new batch prior to packing and shipping, I figured you might benefit from some instructions.
This latest version is slightly different from the last batch.
benefits are a tighter seal to the existing airbox (you better beleive it) and easier manufacturing.
With that said while still not rocket science the impact has been to make installation a little more effort. I had the V2 down to a 5 min install, V3 is looking at more like 10-15 mins.
My digi cam is broken at teh moment so no pics for a while, but heres teh low down.
Step 1
Remove the left hand side rear light cluster. 2 screws on teh top and it will lift out. Be careful with the securing lug that pushes into teh wing. you need to push teh ligth unit toward thethe other side of teh car for it to pop out.
Step 2
Pull out the old tapered pipe. Literally just grasp and twist it will pop out.
Step 3
Remove the plastic screw and grommet on teh left that holds the left hand part of the existing pipe (the bit that dissapears off into the wing). This will give you the extra give in teh pipe that you need.
Step 4
Your new pipe has a long section and a short section. The long bit goes into teh airbox, teh short bit into the pipe on the left. While holding the pipe so that the open ends point upwards insert the long part under teh crossmember toward the airbox (don't worry about inserting it yet).
Step 5
Rotate the opipe so that the short part is pointing toward the pipe emerging from teh wing. Now push it in. Now you can push teh long end into teh airbox. Be warned this will take a fair bit of effort and you may find it easier to unbolt teh coolant bottle from it's mount to give extra access. You need to push this end in until the lip on teh end of your inlet pipe is totally inside teh airbox.
Step 6
Reattach the screw and grommet that holds in the pipe on teh left. Everything shoudl now be a tight fit and nothig will move.
Step 7
Replace teh light cluster.
And there you go. Step 5 may be a bit of a pain but the result is a very tight seal[/b]
That's excellent Mark - I'll look forward to using the instructions when I get my pipe now...
... starting to get excited now too!!! s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
fitted my mark 1 version the other day, piece of cake - 10mins flat, but do as Mark says watch out for the spigot that goes into the wing from the light unit, could be real easy to snap off
Fitted mine today - tight fit (are you kidding, mark). For those who haven't done it yet, if you get the same problem I suggest you dremel off a bit of the seal, and maybe grease it up. Unfortunately the air box entry "hole" cracked. A pity, but not too serious.
The other end thought you could say is loose, probably not an airtight seal. Does any body think this might cause problems?
Every thing seems OK on a test drive. "Noise" slightly lower, good!
Finally, probably a bit obvious but stock pipe is attached to a bit of metal by a rubber screw/popper (similra to the one holding the LH air pipe, and that has to come out before twisting to get the pipe out. Mark missed that from his instructions - probably just on oversight.
Getting to the old one and getting it off was only about 5 mins, nearly an hour to get the new one on reasonably accurately!!
Quote from: "roger"Getting to the old one and getting it off was only about 5 mins, nearly an hour to get the new one on reasonably accurately!!
yeah i had a nightmare getting it to look right as well, but with a bit of wiggling, it came good,
Fitted mk3 pipe at yesterdays pre-cat gut meeting but it had fallen out by the time I got home. Trie dfitting again this morning but it is one hel of a tight fit, The box pipe has cracked quite a bit but I've budged it for now with the old gaffer tape. Will have to see what happens, unless anyone has any ideas s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
bugger, you must have a fractionally wider pipe.
I would suggest dremel/filing the lip down a little if it persist or alternatively a very tight cable tie around the pipe it goes into on the left wing, as I did notice yours was a little looser at this end than the others I've done.
All sorted, dremmeled down the lip a little and have fixed both ends with a jubilee clip. Solid as a rock and just a few tape marks s8) 8) s8)
Question:
Does it make sense to put insulation around the inlet pipe? If so, what kind?
you could do if you want but it would seem a bit pointless without insulating te rest of the system, i.e. the filter box and the pipework that runs around the top of the engine. If you still want to Steve then you can purchase heat wrap from Halfrauds or an motor factors store
Watch with heat wrap though - it tends to contain any moisture, causing corrosion and can also work in reverse - if the pipe gets heatsoaked (sitting in a traffic jam for example) when you get moving again the wrap will prevent the heat from dissipating. I looked into wrapping all of my IC pipes and after a bit of research decided against the idea.
If you really want to do it ceramic coating would be teh best option.
Hi,
I have just received my unpolished pipe from the latest batch. Many thanks Mark.
I know some people have painted theirs should I paint mine to stop it rusting or will it not rust either way?
Ta,
Fraz.
it won't rust persee as its stainless.
it will discolour somewhat. personally I would paint it if unpolished, I would suggest using acid etch primer if you decide to go this route
acid etch is available from Halfrauds, comes in a metallic red spray can
Just fitted mine, all went ok, but the left hand side of the pipe is a very loose fit with noticable gap all around, is it meant too be like this?
Quote from: "markiii"I would suggest using acid etch primer if you decide to go this route
I have a pot of Hammerite paint left over from doing the calipers. Am I right in thinking that I won't need to do the etch thing?
very probably not, if you give it a good wash with hot water first
I've got a pipe from the first GB, which must be over a year ago now. I degreased it and gave a lick of Hammerite smooth black paint when I got it, and even now, its still perfect.
Okay - go the old pipe off but can I hell as like get the new pipe into the airbox!!!!
Tried putting a bit of washing up liquid on it to grease it but it doesn't seem to be helping!
HELP!!!!
What distance of pipe needs to be in the airbox?
I had the same trouble!! it went in eventually but my airbox has since cracked!!
best advice, which i think has been mentioned somewhere before is to gently dremel the lip to make it smaller.
I had to dremel some of the lip to get the pipe to fit in the airbox!
It still popped out so had to put a jubilee clip around it.
Quote from: "Two's Company"I had to dremel some of the lip to get the pipe to fit in the airbox!
It still popped out so had to put a jubilee clip around it.
Exactly the same as mine, dremel + jubilee clip = no air leaks from the crack. s:) :) s:)
Bugger - yep superglue and jub clips alround then - see whatr it sound like after the glues had some chamce to go off!
just to add to tis topic!
ive fitted my markiii and had no problems with fittment to the airbox, abit a force required, but a nice tight fit and screwed down perfectly!!
but on the other side, the part that brings the air to the inlet pipe, not so great so ive unscrewed that part and positioned it for a better air flow then fixed it in place with halfords pipe and hose repair, so theres hardly no movement! and it does the job brilliantly!!
Fitment was fine for me but the angle of the sticky-out bit wasn't. Had to bash it upwards (facing me if I were looking down at its placement in the bay) before it would align properly with the screw hole AND fit properly into both ends.
I must have got the same one as Kool PT as it fitted at both end no problem, did not even remove the rear light cluster. I think someone had removed the old pipe before as is was not connected at the support screw under the expansion bottle, So I fitted the new pipe the same way. Will check it when checking oil etc and adjust/fix the support screw fixing it needed.
Cheers, Bob
i had a bit of trouble getting the pipe in yesterday. it pretty much didn't go into the airbox. so i fitted it anyway but used some pretty good tape to seal the ends to both airbox and pipe from the intake. i know as this is pre filter, it doesn't have to be air tight, but do you think it'll be ok?
I fit my pipe and TRD filter on saturday, but haven't noticed any change at all s:? :? s:? Even reset the ECU at the same time incase that would make some difference, but nay!
I wasn't expecting Ferrari noises resonating from the engine bay, nor did I expect Bugatti Veyron performance....but I was hopeing for something to change!
I'm feeling a little disappointed to be honest s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Hi Markiii,
Sounds interesting - I've just started modding my MR2 - K&N filter already fitted, fancy one of these inlet pipes to go with it. Could you tell me where I could get one from and how much they are? Gutting the pre-cats the next job (though sounds a bit scary!) s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
Thanks!
how does the Markii work? where does it sit? anyone have apiccy?
Where for the MAF go ? as on my Blitz LM it fits pretty snug and the wire is short.
Quote from: "Ilogik"how does the Markii work? where does it sit? anyone have apiccy?
Where for the MAF go ? as on my Blitz LM it fits pretty snug and the wire is short.
It's a replacement for the restricted pipe coming out of the wing and going into stock airbox. You did read the thread didnt you? s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Quote from: "SteveJ"Quote from: "Ilogik"how does the Markii work? where does it sit? anyone have apiccy?
Where for the MAF go ? as on my Blitz LM it fits pretty snug and the wire is short.
It's a replacement for the restricted pipe coming out of the wing and going into stock airbox. You did read the thread didnt you? s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Ahh i thought it was to place induction kit further back s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Here you go, this show's you where it fits, it's just below the pink over flow tank you can see in the pic.
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Rob
Quote from: "FGRob"Here you go, this show's you where it fits, it's just below the pink over flow tank you can see in the pic.
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h70/FGRob/IMG_0446.jpg)
Rob
Thanks for that mate, so from what I see, Maf is plugged into the old box, the pipe extends further back with a filter on the end. Shame there is nothing i can extend mine back with s:( :( s:(
Quote from: "Ilogik"Thanks for that mate, so from what I see, Maf is plugged into the old box, the pipe extends further back with a filter on the end. Shame there is nothing i can extend mine back with s:( :( s:(
I've not got a filter on the end of mine, the Markiii pipe fits into the existing feeder pipe which feeds over the inner rear wing. You can make it out in this next photo.
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Rob.
Just fitted my inlet pipe and no probs but bloody hell it takes some force to get it into the airbox opening lol, not driven it yet so dont know about sound/performance etc
hey im getin an mr2 in 5 month and ive been looking at bodykits and exhaust for them and ive found tht all the exhaust iv seen in videos bein fitted you need to take the rear bumper off is that true or is there another way and if so does anybody know a really great exhaust place that would do the mr2
you can but its far easier to just drop the bumper
I've bought a markiii pipe from ebay!! I can't wait to get it fitted.
This forum provides lots of good, accurate info!! Thanks all!
If it's a question of having several orders before "knocking out a batch", I'd be interested too. Otherwise I'll keep an eye on auction sites or perhaps look for a PPE kit.
Hello,
Finally, probably a bit obvious but stock pipe is attached to a bit of metal by a rubber screw/popper (similra to the one holding the LH air pipe, and that has to come out before twisting to get the pipe out. Mark missed that from his instructions - probably just on oversight.
I just wonder if anyone fitting one of these , who has had a TTE ducktail spoiler, has any tips for getting the install done. Getting the rear light out is a nono with the spoiler fitted. Not for my car in this instance, but my good friend Nathan in Corfu. s:) :) s:)
Edit, sorry that is the Toyota ducktail spoiler as TTE didn't do that one. s:oops: :oops: s:oops: Took nearly a year for anyone to spot it though. s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
apologies for not posting earlier a week and scotland a dose of some kind of stomach bug haven't helped keep me on teh ball
big will - the pipes made perhaps 2 or 3 GBs ago had a swage on teh end whihc caused fitment problems due to the hard plastic on teh airbox having no give, we therefore went back to teh earlier design whihc doesn;t have teh swage and is a little losse in fit. The best approach is a small ring of draft excludr whihc will perform teh same job as teh foam padding on teh stock pipe and allow a snug fit.
Nige - with teh ducktail spoiler (Toyota not TTE) you have 3 choices
1. remove teh spooiler to get to teh light, its not that hard mechancially but depends on whether it was bonded on or not.
2. remove wheel and arch liner and attack from below,
3. remove teh airbox first and then the stock pipe
the good news is that the oem pipe has a half bracket so you can just twist it to remove you don't actually need the bolt out first
I have the duck tail spoiler. I have removed it a couple of times. There are 5 screws that go from the spoiler and have nuts that hold them on the inside of the bumper. There are also 5 support brackets that connect the spoiler screws to the screws and clips that run along the top of the bumper. Put your hand in there and you will feel them.The two outer ones are a sbastard bastard sbastard to get to, I have to contort my arm through those black bracket/support bars that go over the heatshield. The easiest way to loosen them is with a very stubby 10mm spanner.
If it was there from new, it shouldn't be bonded, there is just a rubber seal that goes around the edge.
A quick question. This is to let more air flow into the air box???? Why not just take the old pipe off and not use one or is it to stop hot air from going into the airbox??
Without the pipe, the air would still be filtered but it would come from the engine bay and there is a much bigger hole for it to be sucked through.
Its only an idea??
precisely that
without teh pipe it becomes a hot air intake
so like an induction kit (sucking in warm air) without the induction kit and probably less airflow due to the small opening in the airbox s:D :D s:D
is this ok guys ''as in the airbox far enough?''
doesnt move at all nice and sturdy.
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mine is held in place with two large jubilee clips,one at each end,
thanks to will supplying them when i bought is mark iii pipe....... s:) :) s:)