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Title: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on November 29, 2016, 19:00
This Arrived today off Ebay and before people say why didn't i go to Swansea i will give my reasons
i wanted to do it myself as others have
The costs and time travelling from Newcastle and back add £££'s for me and finally quality but that's subject to opinions

will hopefully post some pictures when fitted
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Treboeth on November 29, 2016, 19:14
But Swansea boys do everything better   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Always good to have other options though and the quality of the Hoods does vary ( Ray in Swansea admits this himself)

Post a video but make sure the swear filter works   s:D :D s:D  
Hope it goes well.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: keeper2611 on November 29, 2016, 19:15
How much was it?
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Treboeth on November 29, 2016, 19:32
Quote from: "keeper2611"How much was it?


£510 including delivery from Ebay.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: andyroo104 on November 29, 2016, 20:22
Looking forward to seeing how this looks fitted and opinion on quality.

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Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: ayresyboy on November 29, 2016, 20:34
Is it a monsoon one?

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Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Treboeth on November 29, 2016, 20:39
Quote from: "ayresyboy"Is it a monsoon one?

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Are you trying to make me share an ebay link and get me in trouble with the Mods   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121992644074? ... EBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121992644074?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) m
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: cabbydave on November 29, 2016, 21:29
If you have trouble I think there is a trimmer near you on here
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on November 29, 2016, 21:59
Thanks for that info but i think the trimmer you are  thinking about is more of a specialist in leather work.
i have managed to acquire a lend thanks to andyroo104  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  of the DVD removal / installation video so have this as reference

Probably start and finish it this weekend if all goes well
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: 1979scotte on November 29, 2016, 22:53
The picture in the link of the silver car is MikeGs old car.
Had his fitted somewhere in essex.
They must just nic the pics from google.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: ayresyboy on November 29, 2016, 23:20
I got a monsoon one from a member on here few years back. Fit it myself. Few head scratching moments but I managed it

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Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Treboeth on November 29, 2016, 23:24
Quote from: "ayresyboy"I got a monsoon one from a member on here few years back. Fit it myself. Few head scratching moments but I managed it

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Was going to edit your post with this

"Cheeky Mod Edit Ayresyboy offers services"   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

But came to my senses  s:( :( s:(
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: MR TWO on November 30, 2016, 16:01
Quote from: "Treboeth"But Swansea boys do everything better   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Always good to have other options though and the quality of the Hoods does vary ( Ray in Swansea admits this himself)

Post a video but make sure the swear filter works   s:D :D s:D  
Hope it goes well.

My mohair top was made by Haartz.  I had Jack in Swansea fit it for me - an inexpensive and fun experience - all tacked onto a weekend away in Tenby.

My roof is great quality, and I would fully recommend one.  It was Jack himself who put me in contact with them and therefore I figure it is as good as any available since Jack would know!
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: jvanzyl on November 30, 2016, 16:24
Is there any difference in the quality of the roof provided by jack vs haartz?
Title: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Bernie on November 30, 2016, 17:23
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Is there any difference in the quality of the roof provided by jack vs haartz?

Yes night and day the Haartz is top quality & welded in heated rear screen and the Jack one is bargain basement in effect "you pay for what you get"

Also I've seen some very dodgy roof seams on some of Jacks and he himself says if you want top drawer go elsewhere

I'm happy with my Haartz

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Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: MR TWO on November 30, 2016, 18:13
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Is there any difference in the quality of the roof provided by jack vs haartz?

I have seen quite a few of Jacks handiwork, and I think his roofs are pretty good, especially at the price he sells them including fitting (professional fitting quotes are frequently 300+).  

Like Bernie, I asked Jack for advice and he simply said if you want a new roof for your car thats well made & inexpensive buy mine.  If you want the best I recommend Haartz and he gave me a couple of contacts who in turn gave me a discount when I told them Jack had referred me.  Jack fitted the roof -the least I could do- and I am very happy with the results and the purchase.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: jvanzyl on November 30, 2016, 18:26
Thanks for the info, soooooo you're basically looking at£500 for the haartz soft top plus £100 odd for fitting at jack's?
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: MR TWO on November 30, 2016, 18:39
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Thanks for the info, soooooo you're basically looking at£500 for the haartz soft top plus £100 odd for fitting at jack's?

Haartz are American I think, so the post Brexit Sterling crash may have pushed the prices up? Jack will give you a good price on the fitting which may be a fair bit less than what you estimate.  Give him a call.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: 1979scotte on November 30, 2016, 19:38
Carhoodsdirect.co.uk say that all their hoods are haartz.
Prices seem reasonable. 532 inc VAT.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on November 30, 2016, 20:30
As far as i know Haartz only supply the fabric and they don't actually make the hoods as some people think
They make mohair in 2 types Stayfast & Twillfast
There are also other companies who also make soft top fabrics very similar?

My hood looks well made the new rear window is bonded in and the fabric looks very smart, is it Haartz?
Shortly i will be able to give you my verdict
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on November 30, 2016, 22:57
Just been checking and i have found that my hood has Haartz fabric   s:D :D s:D  

it has a label sewn in and was made by E-Z ON  http://ezonauto.com/product/toyota-199-200h-heated-glass/ and Haartz supply them with fabric

Link to Haartz  http://www.haartz.com/find-your-top

You can find this hood advertised here on ebay usa http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EZ-ON-BRAND-NEW-TOYOTA-MR2-Spyder-2000-2007-CONVERTIBLE-SOFT-TOP-Spiderer-/251184801068?hash=item3a7bc7e52c:m:mqHP6erroFN1bS70Vy5HUsw

Very happy with my purchase for £510
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Stifler on December 1, 2016, 08:59
All the best with the fitting, hope it goes well for you  s:) :) s:)

Be great to see some pictures once done!
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: tricky1138 on December 1, 2016, 09:34
Good luck with the fitting.

Once you've practiced on yours I'll let you fit mine!   s:scared: :scared: s:scared:  

(not that I'm buying one for a while!   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  )
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 2, 2016, 17:49
Hi Mulaz,  Would be really interested in how you get on fitting your new hood.  Was going to do mine myself with the help of my brother-in-law who's a handy bugger but my wife put her foot down pretty firmly knowing my history with jobs, what could go wrong?  It looks pretty simple to me I'm sure I can manage it!  Oh  sshit shit sshit !

Pretty sure the one you've got is the same as the mohair one I had fitted in early September by Paul of the Soft Top Shop in Stockport.  £830 all in.

So, you're looking to save yourself £300 + and you'll have the satisfaction of sorting it yourself as to the hood itself, can't believe just how easy it is to put up and down.  Had the hood  down even in the frost and you can literally do it with your little finger unlike the vinyl, trying to lower that when it was cold was like wrestling with an angry anaconda!  It also looks so much better than the vinyl, I'm embarrassed to say sometimes I often just stand there looking at.  So, think you've done the right thing there and good luck with the fitting, what possibly could go wrong!
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on December 2, 2016, 19:06
Cheers for the best wishes!... you would think i was undertaken some epic journey up Everest
But for now i have started with lifting the hard top off using my electric winch and this is now stored up out of the way

The car is now tucked up in my warm garage for the night and the misses is away from tomorrow morning with the girls to see Soul to Soul so i can play at my hearts content all day and night if i have too with planet rock blasting  fitting my new roof:D
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: lamcote on December 2, 2016, 20:28
That'll be Soul II Soul

Ooooh, I am so hip.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: MR TWO on December 2, 2016, 20:42
Quote from: "mulaz"Cheers for the best wishes!... you would think i was undertaken some epic journey up Everest
But for now i have started with lifting the hard top off using my electric winch and this is now stored up out of the way

The car is now tucked up in my warm garage for the night and the misses is away from tomorrow morning with the girls to see Soul to Soul so i can play at my hearts content all day and night if i have too with planet rock blasting  fitting my new roof:D

Goodluck and this sounds like fun!
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on December 3, 2016, 20:10
I have worked on my roof change from 10am this morning until 5.30 and completed 95%
Had a few headaches and had to redo a few steps along the way but happy for what i have accomplished  

Even having the DVD showing the procedure it missed a few items out as not every roof is the same
Got to say this is not easy to do as at times you have to be a blind one handed contortionist  

Only for the brave as Dick Sloan commented on face book but the savings for a Genuine Haartz are worth it if you have the skill and buckets loads of patients
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Treboeth on December 3, 2016, 22:35
Well done, looks a really nice job.

Did you fill up the swear jar?
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on December 3, 2016, 23:10
Haha not my style to swear as I have found over the years it make things worse.
But screaming helped !
Know I have a few ahhhhh tomorrow before I am happy   s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: sussex on December 4, 2016, 08:57
Looks Brilliant, can see the quality, Always a bit of pressure when fitting something expensive in case something goes wrong, often when fitting parts etc the owner makes a better job than the professionals as they spend more time on the job ,for a garage time is money.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: moleskin on December 4, 2016, 09:57
Patience is what is needed to do a good job. Something that you seem to have.
Not sure that I do though!!
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on December 4, 2016, 15:00
[attachment=1:1972q6hh] ia1 car3.gif ia1 [/attachment:1972q6hh]well it's finished for now, i'm going to let it stretch out for a while as it's drum tight but does look so much better than my old roof
I Have one small area on the second bow that needs redoing but i have had my fill this weekend.

My advice for other owners thinking of fitting a roof is "if you have to ask yourself can i do this?" then i wouldn't try!
as it's defiantly at the top end of home car maintenance skill levels and patience  

As the old saying goes it's easy once you know how it's done
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Tomo70 on December 4, 2016, 15:53
Looks great Ian, job well done.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: MR TWO on December 4, 2016, 16:05
It looks brilliant!

I bought Fabsil for mine after I tested it for a month or so ( I wanted to know it didnt leak before I put extra waterproofing on it). Now the rain bubbles up just like it does on the paintwork.  Yeah I know its silly but I like it!
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on December 4, 2016, 16:45
Used some of this info from Spyderchat.com http://www.spyderchat.com/forums/showthread.php?53290-Installing-an-MR2-Spyder-Convertible-Soft-Top-Replacement
A must is this DVD http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401140627970?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: andyroo104 on December 5, 2016, 04:59
Looks great, I do love a mohair especially a top quality one.

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Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: shnazzle on December 5, 2016, 08:07
Really well done Ian. Looks smashing
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: jvanzyl on December 5, 2016, 11:48
So now that you're an expert can we come to your for help fitting??  :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on December 5, 2016, 12:05
Fitting one roof doesn't make me an expert but l will help anyone to my best of knowledge with advice
If I was doing it again I would change some steps that are on the DVD and to knock hours off the time it took
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 9, 2016, 09:54
Looks great mulaz, hell of a saving doing it yourself, you probably know this already but, after I'd had mine fitted by Paul at the softopshop he told me to run the hose over it as soon as I got home and give it a really good soaking no idea why and his other bit of advice was not to put the hood down for a couple of weeks.  Not a problem I guess at this time of the year!  Best of luck mate, the job looks great.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: shnazzle on December 9, 2016, 10:20
Why do you need to soak it GREY? OUt of curiosity
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Joesson on December 9, 2016, 10:41
My guess would be that the soaking thoroughly wets / stretches all the fibres. As the hood dries, without additional heat, the hood fibres will shrink and become tighter on the frame and " mould" or pre shrink the shape.
In the days of tight denims I understand this was the way to get the correct form!
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 9, 2016, 21:39
I think you're right there Joe, when I picked mine up I was so blown away by the difference the mohair hood made that I forgot to ask all the questions I should have such as; why do I need to soak it, what's the best way to get bird crap off (I live by the seaside!) does it need proofing etc...  Turns out the soaking does work like sitting in the bath in new Levi's yes I'm old enough to have done that, no need to proof it, bird crap comes off no problem with the hose just let it air dry no need to dry it off with the chamois leather.  Still looks like new three months on would thoroughly recommend.
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on December 9, 2016, 22:45
Quote from: "mulaz"Haha not my style to swear as I have found over the years it make things worse.
But screaming helped !
Know I have a few ahhhhh tomorrow before I am happy   s:) :) s:)

I find being able to swear in multiple languages can be beneficial
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Joesson on December 10, 2016, 09:48
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"
Quote from: "mulaz"Haha not my style to swear as I have found over the years it make things worse.
But screaming helped !
Know I have a few ahhhhh tomorrow before I am happy   s:) :) s:)

I find being able to swear in multiple languages can be beneficial

Often quality scores over quantity  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: mulaz on December 11, 2016, 13:04
Did a small amount of corrective work on my roof this morning and can now say that's it for now and i am 99% happy especially for £500

 i only have one problem and that's the glass when lift up from folded hits the roof pull catch , so the one handed pull up for now is a no go
After speaking to EZ-0N who made this roof they said You have to give the top time to adjust and wear in and eventually it won't catch onto anything. Our tech guy also mentioned you should use your hand to push the bottom of the top inward and then pull up when you are lifting the top.

Will post an update next year after the roof has been giving some time to settle
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: Joesson on December 11, 2016, 16:36
As I no longer work for a living, I have spare time available to ease the top down and glass into place with both hands from outside the car which I feel gives the (OE) roof a better chance of a longer life.  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Title: Re: New Mohair roof in a box
Post by: shnazzle on December 11, 2016, 21:05
Ian if it makes you feel better my rear window has always caught the catch and I always push the window up from the inside when putting the roof up