This is my V6 1mz non vvti roadster purchased from tomos on the 19 March 2017.
Orignally converted from 1zz to 1mz by Woodsport when under Donnac's ownership.
The car has a few issues poor idle, leakimg exhaust and possible engine mount problems among them.
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Its black with a few yellow accents.
Toms for sale description below.
2000 1MZ 3.0l V6, first registered 01/09/2000
Woodsport 1MZ 3.0l V6 conversion with LSD & extended 5th gear purchased from Donna back in July 2014 with the following spec (original advert available in on the twobrutal forum 'For Sale - Archive' along with history of being CAT C damaged, assessed by Woodsport as only cosmetic damage, subsequently repaired and VIC checked);
- Black leather in good condition
- Standard 15" pre-facelift alloys with 4 brand new tyres
- McGard Locking nuts
- Hzaltezza TRD style front lip & style skirts
- Toyota rear spats
- Facelift clear repeators, side vents & bumper inserts
- Yellow JDM nose badge
- Devs de dimpler
- Cusco front brace
- Tein springs
- Hel braided hoses
- Hayward and Scott custom twin exhaust
- Alloy Radiator
- Chrome Roll Hoops
Since I've owned it the following work has been carried out;
- MeisterR Zeta-R Coilovers x4 – Installed @ Rogue Motorsport
- Hardrace adjustable rear arms x2 – Installed @ Rogue Motorsport
- GT4-Play front wishbones with poly bushes and new ball joints – Installed @ Rogue Motorsport
- GT4-Play rear suspension arms x 4 – Installed @ Rogue Motorsport
- Hardrace adjustable rear arms x 2 - Installed @ Rogue Motorsport
- Geometry set up – @ Rogue Motorsport
- ACIS System re-instated - @ Rogue Motorsport
- Matts Underbody Brace
- Pagid front/rear pads & discs
- TCB Steering UJ
- TCB driver and passenger side front wheel bearings
- Front & rear drop links with poly bushes
- Sony bluetooth head unit WX-GT90BT (double din)
- New alternator (think it was a Lucas) and aux belt
I'm thinking this is the same pair of custards that I posted on Facebook but from the other angle??
It most definitely is
Nice... like a young Burt Reynolds...
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Twice as bright s8) 8) s8) as any other colour or is it 2 cars? Enjoy! s:D :D s:D
Tell me at least one of them transforms?? The more I see the more my silver looks dull and uninteresting, might need some go faster stripes!
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Nice to have you on board fella. UCC FTW! s:-D :-D s:-D
s:D :D s:D well well what can i say, i have always said said Scotty loves yellow the way he use to go on and on and moan about the yellow s8) 8) s8)
now he has the fastest yellow in the gang of custards s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
nice to have you aboard the clan of yellows just be carefully i dont mistake for mine and run of with it at ding day s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Fastest yellow is saying something Paul. Steve doesn't stand a chance in Greenie now! s;-) ;-) s;-)
Yellow is by far the fastest colour I agree
Now with Headcase to assess the issues.
It will be worth it when done. I haven't been in a v6 yet need you to take me out for a spin.
Quote from: "s12vea"It will be worth it when done. I haven't been in a v6 yet need you to take me out for a spin.
WTAF!!!!
You havent been in a V6 ROADSTER.
We will rectify that soon enough.
Ask Chris for a ride thatll wake you up.
I just need a 2zz ride and a supercharged for the full house.
I know strange!
I've heard Chris 2gr is a beast!
We will arrange a local meet when the weather improves
Quote from: "s12vea"I know strange!
I've heard Chris 2gr is a beast!
We will arrange a local meet when the weather improves
You have said that before Steve i shall hold you to it this time.
Quote from: "puma2":D well well what can i say, i have always said said Scotty loves yellow the way he use to go on and on and moan about the yellow s8) 8) s8)
now he has the fastest yellow in the gang of custards s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
nice to have you aboard the clan of yellows just be carefully i dont mistake for mine and run of with it at ding day s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
He might have the fastest Paul, but is it the best looking? I think your facelift looks great & would probably win that title s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
If I hadn't bought the black hardtop that was on yours before you acquired it then you could have had a matching set of 3 custards with black roofs, or should that be 3 blacks with a touch of yellow Scotte?!!
Cant comment on other peoples cars but mine is black.
There is black in the above photo for all to see.
Small bit of yellow too.
If your being fussy.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "s12vea"It will be worth it when done. I haven't been in a v6 yet need you to take me out for a spin.
WTAF!!!!
You havent been in a V6 ROADSTER.
We will rectify that soon enough.
Ask Chris for a ride thatll wake you up.
I just need a 2zz ride and a supercharged for the full house.
Gladly take you out in mine especially if I can get a ride in yours when it's done. Simon took Kate out for a spin at dong day but sadly not me...
Quote from: "mikek"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "s12vea"It will be worth it when done. I haven't been in a v6 yet need you to take me out for a spin.
WTAF!!!!
You havent been in a V6 ROADSTER.
We will rectify that soon enough.
Ask Chris for a ride thatll wake you up.
I just need a 2zz ride and a supercharged for the full house.
Gladly take you out in mine especially if I can get a ride in yours when it's done. Simon took Kate out for a spin at dong day but sadly not me...
Rides are no problem.
I would let you drive it but you 2zz guys arent prepared for all that torque. s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "mikek"Quote from: "1979scotte"WTAF!!!!
You havent been in a V6 ROADSTER.
We will rectify that soon enough.
Ask Chris for a ride thatll wake you up.
I just need a 2zz ride and a supercharged for the full house.
Gladly take you out in mine especially if I can get a ride in yours when it's done. Simon took Kate out for a spin at dong day but sadly not me...
Rides are no problem.
I would let you drive it but you 2zz guys arent prepared for all that torque. s;) ;) s;)
s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "s12vea"I know strange!
I've heard Chris 2gr is a beast!
We will arrange a local meet when the weather improves
You have said that before Steve i shall hold you to it this time.
I don't remember us having a local meet but .... The wife and kids get in the way these days with "mr2 fun"
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "mikek"Quote from: "1979scotte"WTAF!!!!
You havent been in a V6 ROADSTER.
We will rectify that soon enough.
Ask Chris for a ride thatll wake you up.
I just need a 2zz ride and a supercharged for the full house.
Gladly take you out in mine especially if I can get a ride in yours when it's done. Simon took Kate out for a spin at dong day but sadly not me...
Rides are no problem.
I would let you drive it but you 2zz guys arent prepared for all that torque. s;) ;) s;)
I've had a turbo diesel so I should be ok!!!!!! Admittedly not a custard which are clearly faster
Quote from: "mikek"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "mikek"Gladly take you out in mine especially if I can get a ride in yours when it's done. Simon took Kate out for a spin at dong day but sadly not me...
Rides are no problem.
I would let you drive it but you 2zz guys arent prepared for all that torque. s;) ;) s;)
I've had a turbo diesel so I should be ok!!!!!! Admittedly not a custard which are clearly faster
Its a black car mike not custard.
You really arent getting it are you.
Sorry. My mistake.
Congrats on your purchase of a V6 black roadster Scotte.
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Quote from: "andyroo104"Congrats on your purchase of a V6 black roadster Scotte.
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Thanks Andy.
Your MK1 looked tidy last time i saw it at Pats.
Thanks, she is back home now all tucked up in the garage.
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Well scott i keep looking at the photograph and you are so right there be black in there with the biggest bird dropping of all time s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: slime yellow it must have been unwell or you had just cleaned your fully black 2 s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Geting to the bottom of the idle issues.
This is the throttlebody
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Not to pretty but headcase has cleaned her up and now she idles like a charm.
Onto the next issue.
happy to meet up with mine!
Video of nice idle.
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Video of something altogether not good.
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Can we put this one on our youtube channel it should serve as a warning to others.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Video of something altogether not good.
Good lord that's horrific s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
I was half expecting it to disintegrate when the pry bar went in!!
Quote from: "hachiroku"Quote from: "1979scotte"Video of something altogether not good.
Good lord that's horrific s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
I was half expecting it to disintegrate when the pry bar went in!!
Drove it from Warwick to Hastings with a little stop at home to take my WIFE for a ride in it.
Over 150 miles.
Anybody think i am over reacting when i say i could have died?
Anyone what to give it a go?
Oh wow. That's really not good. That's the worst I've seen!
Definitely a warning to all
Quote from: "1979scotte"Drove it from Warwick to Hastings with a little stop at home to take my WIFE for a ride in it.
Over 150 miles.
Anybody think i am over reacting when i say i could have died?
Anyone what to give it a go?
Doesn't bear thinking about. There must be some higher entity looking out for you.
I felt the same when this happened to my 350z:
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Drove 40 odd miles on shattered nearside front - motorway speeds and fast bends.
No detectable wobble/vibrations through the steering, car felt completely normal. Wheel was clearly in 2 pieces but somehow held together the whole time. Still can't believe it to this day.
Nearly died of a heart attack when i realised what had happened! s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
Quote from: "hachiroku"Quote from: "1979scotte"Drove it from Warwick to Hastings with a little stop at home to take my WIFE for a ride in it.
Over 150 miles.
Anybody think i am over reacting when i say i could have died?
Anyone what to give it a go?
Doesn't bear thinking about. There must be some higher entity looking out for you.
I felt the same when this happened to my 350z:
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Drove 40 odd miles on shattered nearside front - motorway speeds and fast bends.
No detectable wobble/vibrations through the steering, car felt completely normal. Wheel was clearly in 2 pieces but somehow held together the whole time. Still can't believe it to this day.
Nearly died of a heart attack when i realised what had happened! s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
Ok thats in the same league for sure.
Sorry for going off on a tangent there... Your near death experience just reminded me of mine!
Just shocking mate. I know the car was low and that area was difficult to see, but I am gutted for you that I didn't spot this. s:-( :-( s:-( s:-( :-( s:-(
Soz mate. s:-( :-( s:-(
With that level of corrosion, I don't understand how this has passed it's last 2 MOT's. Especially if it was up on a ramp. I don't remember there being an undertray in place when we viewed it.
I feel you were fortunate that nothing happened on the way home, or the drive to Patrick's.
I think the term for that subframe is FUBAR'd.. If you don't know what it means 'F'd Up Beyond All Recognition'. Probably the most accurate description of what state it's in. s:D :D s:D
I'm glad it didn't give way with you & the Mrs in it Scotte....
Yikes!
Is that on the yellow V6?
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Yikes!
Is that on the yellow V6?
No its isnt fool.
Its on the BLACK V6
with yellow accents.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Yikes!
Is that on the yellow V6?
No its isnt fool.
Its on the BLACK V6 with yellow accents.
My Bad
In my defence I am colourblind s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Quote from: "StuC"Just shocking mate. I know the car was low and that area was difficult to see, but I am gutted for you that I didn't spot this. s:-( :-( s:-( s:-( :-( s:-(
Soz mate. s:-( :-( s:-(
With that level of corrosion, I don't understand how this has passed it's last 2 MOT's. Especially if it was up on a ramp. I don't remember there being an undertray in place when we viewed it.
I feel you were fortunate that nothing happened on the way home, or the drive to Patrick's.
No worries.
It looked fine from above and its pretty darn low.
I tapped and proded at it perhaps it was on the drive home that it finally gave way.
I did say it was the worst handling 2 i have ever driven.
Think i have been proved right.
No supercharger for Scott this year.
Going to take plenty of overtime to cure all this beasts ills.
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Yikes!
Is that on the yellow V6?
No its isnt fool.
Its on the BLACK V6 with yellow accents.
My Bad
In my defence I am colourblind s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Ok its yellow.
I guess that once the rear subby is replaced, it least you know where you are starting from.
Quote from: "StuC"I guess that once the rear subby is replaced, it least you know where you are starting from.
I have a rough one in storage which i am taking down for Pat to look at.
It would be a shame to buy a new one just to cut a chunk out of it.
I see where you are coming from.
I hope the one you have can be treated successfully to provide a solid start.
I would be complaining to the previous mot station as that should have been checked! Hopefully get it sorted asap mate
You only have 28 days to complain IIRC.
EDIT: pass date was July 2016. s:-( :-( s:-(
It must have been a telephone MOT it would of been picked up in July surely.
Quote from: "s12vea"It must have been a telephone MOT it would of been picked up in July surely.
It is what it is now.
Dont buy a lowered car without jacking it up.
A new life lesson learned.
Not sure we would have got a jack under there mate! s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Besides you'd have moaned like anything having to cuddle a trolley jack over there! s;-) ;-) s;-)
A replacement can be sourced and you will have the confidence it's strong and correct.
Wow Scott - glad you've at least found the issue! And very glad that no-one was hurt...
That is not good. I would think you were very lucky and it is no wonder it felt awful to drive. At least you can put it right and know it's right before you put even more power through it
If you need my old subframe you're welcome to it. It's not 100% but it has no actual holes in it! And if it's getting notched etc it can be re-inforced anyway.
That's horrible. Exactly why I did mine - peace of mind.
That is just plain nasty on all levels.
Please tell me that is not indicative of the rest of it.
Take it pat is on high alert for any other gremlins
Glad you didn't get hurt. It does show just how bad it can get. Thanks for sharing.
Is that mess above the mess an exhaust system?
The exhaust system is a mess too but we knew that.
That is a real eye opener for us all.
Time for a call to Mr T for a new subframe.
Just seen this, oh bu s:!: :!: s:!: s:!: :!: s:!: er s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
i feel for you Scotte, this being a huge damper on your buying buzz s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
at least no harm done to you or anybody else and that you found it sooner rather than later.
at least when you get another subframe you can make it as black as you want s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "puma2"at least when you get another subframe you can make it as black as you want s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Personally I think it needs to be yellow. Scottie keeps saying the car has yellow 'accents' but I'm really not seeing it - it needs more yellow if it's not to be some plain-jane black car.
Long story short. Best part of £2k.
New subframe obviously.
Extensive wire brushing cleaning welding waxoyl and underseal. MOT failure.
New exhaust. Has no Cat MOT failure again and its fubar anyway.
Various other bits and pieces.
Epic fail.
That £2k is to bring it up to legal?
Ouch.
Quote from: "StuC"That £2k is to bring it up to legal?
Legal would be less but i want it done right. And once.
Oh the joys s:( :( s:(
I dont know how people can sell a car knowing these issues, i refuse to take it that the previous owner didn't know. Be interested to check who did the previous MOT's aswell.
All will be sorted soon and the smile will return s:) :) s:)
thinking the same
Bloody hell. that is def the worst we have seen. But glad you're getting it sorted.
Almost glad I didn't buy it.
Wow... sorry to hear about the massive bill Scott.... :-/ Hope it gets done relatively quickly and that you can now have serious piece of mind that it's sorted.
Sorry to hear its so costly but I guess you were expecting to spend some money and at least you will know the jobs have been done and good for some time to come?
Just focus on how well it is going to drive when you pick it up.
It will come good in the end mate think of the v6 burble in the future.
Thanks for all the kind words guys.
Got any spare cash to go with them. s;) ;) s;)
Words are cheap... but the vending machine rejected my last £2 coin on the grounds that it's actually a mexican 2 peso piece. That and the bank manager wants a word about my credit line with ebay/various performance parts suppliers/the sales section on here.
Sorry.
Quote from: "JoeCool"That and the bank manager wants a word about my credit line with ebay/various performance parts suppliers/the sales section on here.
Sorry.
Your's too?
must be getting close to holiday season lol
are you aloud to bring a bucket to ding day and ask for collections s:x :x s:x s:x :x s:x
iam feeling your suffering and upset s:( :( s:(
sorry its only words but if i see you in person i can man hug you s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
don't call his car a bucket Paul!
too soon? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Quote from: "StuC"don't call his car a bucket Paul!
too soon? s;-) ;-) s;-)
It's never too soon for friendly, supportive banter from an understanding fellow owner...
(The money would just fall through the holes anyway...)
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Quote from: "StuC"don't call his car a bucket Paul!
too soon? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Your a ****!!!
Not a very good bucket far too many holes.
Sorry to see this Scotte but at least you know that Patrick will work his magic and you will have a lovely example yet again.
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Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "StuC"don't call his car a bucket Paul!
too soon? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Your a ****!!!
Not a very good bucket far too many holes.
I'm a star? Is that what you are saying? Thanks mate. s;-) ;-) s;-)
Once you are finished sorting this car fella, she is gonna be one of the best in the club!! s:-D :-D s:-D
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Anyone got dibs on it yet?
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I think I may have had a lucky escape!
I was going to take a look at this car, but you beat me to it!
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"I think I may have had a lucky escape!
I was going to take a look at this car, but you beat me to it!
I think i had a lucky escape and i bought the lemon.
Just something to think about there are other sub frames/v6 swaps from the same supplier that could well shortly suffer from this, not too mention the claim that the supplier claims they re enforce their sub frames.
However thank fully the car is now in the right hands!
Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Anyone got dibs on it yet?
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Plenty of meat on there...
...for the 80mm wide strip at the top! s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Disappointing to see that there is no extra reinforcing inside.
Worth noting though that the subframe has not gone by the cut out but at the other end?
When was the car converted?
Point im making Simon is theres no support, Scotte's has gone over the stock 1zz exhaust point.
Gone in the usual place.
Its a 2000 car conversion done a while back Tomos bought it in 2014.
I still think the subframe, as built by Toyota, is quite shoddy.
In my humble completely uneducated opinion haha.
I had a good look at it and it's a lapwork of sheets of metal.
Surely someone can fabricate a more solid structure
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That would be nice Pat s:) :) s:)
Conversion was done in 2010 I believe.
In relation to the subframe construction, welding together pressed metal panels is cheaper than a casting and gives more cross sectional area.
The downside is obviously that wherever there is a joint, moisture can potentially get in over time.
It might be worth seeing if its possible to create a structure with some standard section alu bars/tubes. It's something I have given some thought to before.
Perhaps i need a convo with Steve@D1 for a next project.
Did anything ever come of this?
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Quote from: "StuC"Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Anyone got dibs on it yet?
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Plenty of meat on there...
...for the 80mm wide strip at the top! s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
It ought to be mounted on a plinth and given out yearly at Ding Day the "Courage in the face of diversity and relentless p**s taking" award! [emoji2]
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Quote from: "StuC"It might be worth seeing if its possible to create a structure with some standard section alu bars/tubes. It's something I have given some thought to before.
Perhaps i need a convo with Steve@D1 for a next project.
I've been talking about this with a fabricator mate of mine and we think it should be possible to make a welded tubular subframe
The question tho would be wether there would be any weights gains/advantages compared to the cost to manufature
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Seems such a shame to start cutting it up doesn't it? s:( :( s:( Needs must
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What's wrong with the one on the right? s;-) ;-) s;-)
btw, like the point being made by the large pile of rusty flakes!!
Is the bracing the difference between a FL and a PFL? <Goes outside to check Banana.>
EDIT: I have a small brace, but it is just to mount the undertray to and is a flatish section. The one in Scott's picture looks like it has a 90 degree bend.
I'm booked in for wheel alignment Saturday morning so I'm going to have a good look at mine while it's up in the air, looks great from above...
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Cant rmeember if the FL arms fit a pre or not, if they do al bring some to ding day.
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The " bracing arms" include fixing points for the undertrays, so maybe no trays on the Bee 6.
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Wow tony triple post.
Nice one.
My triple post now trimmed to size, bit like your new crossmember.
Looks like progress is in progress.
Just to add, the reason it would get through the MOT is the same reason mine does, despite having a rotten subframe.
If you have the nappy on, you could get an advisory.
Bizarrely, mine never had an advisory until the year before last which said;
QuoteUnder-trays fitted obscuring some underside components
Engine covers fitted obscuring some components in the engine bay
luggage compartment cover obscuring some items
This year, nothing, except to note that the handbrake had little travel (which is kind of normal I believe)
Quote from: "The Other Stu"Just to add, the reason it would get through the MOT is the same reason mine does, despite having a rotten subframe.
If you have the nappy on, you could get an advisory.
Bizarrely, mine never had an advisory until the year before last which said;
QuoteUnder-trays fitted obscuring some underside components
Engine covers fitted obscuring some components in the engine bay
luggage compartment cover obscuring some items
This year, nothing, except to note that the handbrake had little travel (which is kind of normal I believe)
No nappies on the V6 mate.
Not anywhere to fix them on that subframe.
Also the chassis has extensive corrosion which was clear to see if you could get the car on a ramp.
Ouch, so not just the subframe then?
Quote from: "The Other Stu"Ouch, so not just the subframe then?
Most certainly not.
Also there is no cat on the car so it cant pass emissions.
No idea how it got an MOT last July.
The only way would be a friendly mot tester I guess.
Quote from: "s12vea"The only way would be a friendly mot tester I guess.
Very friendly.
Callous too.
If it had the correct advisories on it i would have never bought it.
In fairness Scott, it wouldn't have passed if it was carried out properly.
Reason for sale: my friendly Moter has gone straight, bugger better sell it!
So she is all fixed up now.
Just some AD08R to get fitted in PFL sizes for the time being.
Sort insurance too.
Pick her up Saturday all being well.
Good news!
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huh? What'd you do the highland with?
Quote from: "shnazzle"huh? What'd you do the highland with?
How are you in a position of responsibilty?
Took the turbo.
Left her there too.
Great news
Quote from: "1979scotte"So she is all fixed up now.
Just some AD08R to get fitted in PFL sizes for the time being.
Sort insurance too.
Pick her up Saturday all being well.
Excellent.
99% there on being a fully fledged member of the UCC. Just the inauguration to take care of. :-) :-) :-)
Fantastic. Just the ado8r and a respray to go!!!
Quote from: "StuC"Quote from: "1979scotte"So she is all fixed up now.
Just some AD08R to get fitted in PFL sizes for the time being.
Sort insurance too.
Pick her up Saturday all being well.
Excellent.
99% there on being a fully fledged member of the UCC. Just the inauguration to take care of. :-) :-) :-)
Inauguration theme tune :-) :-) :-)
m https://youtu.be/nrbni0tVBZ8 (https://youtu.be/nrbni0tVBZ8) m
Anything by the BeeGees also. s;-) ;-) s;-)
I think this is more appropriate for those old enough!
m https://youtu.be/XMl6HnhFFIA (https://youtu.be/XMl6HnhFFIA) m
Or this for our younger viewers....
m https://youtu.be/sFukyIIM1XI (https://youtu.be/sFukyIIM1XI) m
m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81LQnWPVqSI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81LQnWPVqSI) m surely this must be the Custarts induction tune?
Some people are really showing their ages with these videos, Banana Splits indeed, was this some kind of TV Show?
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Looking forward to todays update!
Me too. Hope its everything he thought it would be.
Well it's yellow Mike, so that gives the springboard for a perfect day! s;-) ;-) s;-)
I hope Bee6 feels and sounds infinitely better than when she went in Scott. s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
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There she is looking almost repectable now.
Cost 2k to put right but that did include 400 quids worth of tyres.
As usual exceptional service by headcase.
Looking good. Hope she goes and handles well
Wow! B-)
Nice photo fella.
Nice that! Those yellow accents really set it off! Top work.
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Do know, I never thought that black could look so bright! Very nice, glad to see that it's all sorted now though I expect that you have more plans for it.
Quote from: "Mikeymead"Do know, I never thought that black could look so bright!
It's one of the old tvr flip paint blacks where it changes colours when you look at it from different angles in different light conditions.
To see it in black you need to be in an unlit garage, at night, with a blindfold on!
Looks great mate
m https://youtu.be/zedq1VhaS90 (https://youtu.be/zedq1VhaS90) m
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Thats looking great Scott, can't wait to see it in the flesh at DD. s:D :D s:D
Man that's looking good!
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Thanks guys.
Not so good in the metal but thats ok.
Its not a show car.
Looking good Scott.
How does it sound?
(PS Appropriate number plate, ex 4...)
Sound great.
Lots of pops and burbles.
Sounds the muts nuts at 6k rpm.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Lots of pops and burbles.
And how about Bee6?
s;-) ;-) s;-)
Looking good, glad you got it all sorted.
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Am starting to learn that 1st is irrelevant and 2nd and 4th will suit most of the time.
Id imagine you'll have to change that statement when she is upgraded. I have a feeling there will be more gearing irrelevancy.
Good to see you getting some payback though. :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "StuC"Id imagine you'll have to change that statement when she is upgraded. I have a feeling there will be more gearing irrelevancy.
Good to see you getting some payback though. :-) :-) :-)
This is a good point.
May aswell just be 3 speed. 2nd 5th and reverse.
You could be onto something there! s;-) ;-) s;-)
Quote from: "1979scotte"Sounds the muts nuts at 6k rpm.
6k? Is that all it goes to? How do you accelerate? s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
Quote from: "JoeCool"Quote from: "1979scotte"Sounds the muts nuts at 6k rpm.
6k? Is that all it goes to? How do you accelerate? s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
It goes past 6k just about. Makes maxpower around 5400 rpm.
It accelerates due to torque something that you and your 2zz will never understand.
I have torque too. I just use a gearbox to generate it at the wheels, not a taxi cab engine. :p
Quote from: "JoeCool"I have torque too. I just use a gearbox to generate it at the wheels, not a taxi cab engine. :p
Torque s:lol: :lol: s:lol: like 130lbs mine makes over 200 and i havent even started working on it yet.
You and I need a hot date on an Essex airfield my friend.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "JoeCool"I have torque too. I just use a gearbox to generate it at the wheels, not a taxi cab engine. :p
Torque s:lol: :lol: s:lol: like 130lbs mine makes over 200 and i havent even started working on it yet.
What are your plans for it?
Quote from: "JoeCool"You and I need a hot date on an Essex airfield my friend.
You only beat me last time because of tyres.
Youre going down like Klitchko.
Quote from: "MilesH"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "JoeCool"I have torque too. I just use a gearbox to generate it at the wheels, not a taxi cab engine. :p
Torque s:lol: :lol: s:lol: like 130lbs mine makes over 200 and i havent even started working on it yet.
What are your plans for it?
My heart says supercharger more than likely a rotrex.
My head says stay nice and reliable with na.
If i could get a 3.3 block from america or japan that would be nice too.
Headcase just had one arrive from USA!
Quote from: "KRAMSNEHPETS"Headcase just had one arrive from USA!
No he had a 3.5 2gr arrive i am talking about getting a block from a 3mz and mating it up to 1mz heads.
Saw your new engine looked good.
How much will that change the engine installation? Bespoke engine mounts required or is it interchangeable? Just thinking about that newly chopped rear subby not needing anything else out of it.
Quote from: "StuC"How much will that change the engine installation? Bespoke engine mounts required or is it interchangeable? Just thinking about that newly chopped rear subby not needing anything else out of it.
I believe externally they are the same. Its probably cheaper and easier to supercharge tbh.
Not both then? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Quote from: "StuC"Not both then? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Certainley.
If your paying.
btw dont you reply to text messages anymore s;) ;) s;)
If I had it spare fella, not a problem! s;-) ;-) s;-)
Are you sure about that last statement? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Quote from: "StuC"Are you sure about that last statement? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Beat you to it by a minute.
You'll be glad of these posts when you are reading through later on in the year. s:-D :-D s:-D
What's the timetable for the changes?
Quote from: "StuC"You'll be glad of these posts when you are reading through later on in the year. s:-D :-D s:-D
What's the timetable for the changes?
Car will be taken off the road in Jan so its all sorted for new insurance year in Feb.
If funds are availble.
Not seen engine myself yet. Would like a ride in your v6 one day!
Has anyone put a supercharger on a 1MZ in a MK3 before? Can't see anything about it having been done yet. I know the TRD unit doesn't fit but there's still enough space for a custom install. What you thinking on the ECU side of things?
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Quote from: "nadeemxb"Has anyone put a supercharger on a 1MZ in a MK3 before? Can't see anything about it having been done yet. I know the TRD unit doesn't fit but there's still enough space for a custom install. What you thinking on the ECU side of things?
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Just a simple piggyback.
You can run 4psi of boost on stock ecu.
Plenty do on the 1mz with trd charger.
Its probably been done in the USA not sure about over here.
Quote from: "nadeemxb"Has anyone put a supercharger on a 1MZ in a MK3 before? Can't see anything about it having been done yet. I know the TRD unit doesn't fit but there's still enough space for a custom install. What you thinking on the ECU side of things?
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Carolyn has done it. Because she can.
Quote from: "The Other Stu"Quote from: "nadeemxb"Has anyone put a supercharger on a 1MZ in a MK3 before? Can't see anything about it having been done yet. I know the TRD unit doesn't fit but there's still enough space for a custom install. What you thinking on the ECU side of things?
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Carolyn has done it. Because she can.
Sorry but she hasnt.
She supercharged a 1ZZ not a 1MZ.
Ah apologies. It's cos I didn't read it properly. I'll go to your naughty corner.
Scott
If you are going to build the motor for high revs and a long power band then the Rotrex is your tool. The TRD with Roots type blower is a torque monster and will keep the power and torque at or below current rev range for brutal driveability. Also, easier to handle more power at lower revs with the stock engine as revs add their own requirement for durability. Personally torque propels a car and that's what id go for hence you having a v6. And less gear changes save you time in acceleration.
You'll have a 0.5s advantage on JoeCool without any other factors by only having 5 gears and the torque to use it vs his mechanical advantage of high gearing and revs.
Plus being the only official TRD supercharged v6 is epic bragging rights, a proper supercharged Toyota v6 MR2 as Toyota would have built it.
Unfortunatley Tyler the TRD roots charger doesnt fit on a 1mz inside a mk3 engine bay it fouls the driver side suspension turret. I think.
It also is designed to push 4psi and doesnt really like being pushed harder.
I wont be uping the rev limit.
Only want 7 psi.
The car pulls so well from low revs i think a rotrex will suit it.
Really interested in what you're planning here so will keep watching this.
I would say that my conversion has a gearbox from an ST202 jap import which apparently has longer gearing. I certainly have no issues with the gearing feeling short in mine. Might be worth looking at.
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I have a fluctuating temp gauge.
I knew that when i bought it.
It gets worse when you run the fan turn the headlights and radio on so assume it some weird electrical fault.
However on the way home tonight with roof down realised the heater isnt anywhere near as hot as on the turbo car.
More investigation needed.
Could just need a bleed of the HVAC system fella. It's not that complicated to do yourself.
I have bled the system on the old car so i know what to do i think.
Thats what the hose in the frunk is for isnt it?
Yeah. You need to attach it to the top of the radiator and one to the top of the heater matrix, and hang them off the open bonnet to find a level across the whole length of the car. Although mine bled very easily, I just had the rear of the car high on my drive and let it idle for a while with the expansion tank open.
Quote from: "1979scotte"I have bled the system on the old car so i know what to do i think.
Thats what the hose in the frunk is for isnt it?
That's the one fella. :-) :-) :-)
Turns out i dont have a FL front under brace will rectify that soonest.
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Is it me or is that MattBrace bent?
Quote from: "StuC"Is it me or is that MattBrace bent?
It does seem a bit kinky?
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Quote from: "StuC"Is it me or is that MattBrace bent?
Bent as a 9 bob note.
Car is too low imho.
Re heat temp from 1MZ engine, compared to 1zz. The heater in my V6 car is good, but the 1zz in my previous car practically burnt my hands if I put them too close to the vents...
Quote from: "1979scotte"Turns out i dont have a FL front under brace will rectify that soonest.
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I have a spare one if you want Scotte, all painted (hand painted) up in gunmetal.
Quote from: "MR TWO"Re heat temp from 1MZ engine, compared to 1zz. The heater in my V6 car is good, but the 1zz in my previous car practically burnt my hands if I put them too close to the vents...
Thanks for that.
Its an unforseen downside.
Quote from: "Mikeymead"Quote from: "1979scotte"Turns out i dont have a FL front under brace will rectify that soonest.
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I have a spare one if you want Scotte, all painted (hand painted) up in gunmetal.
I think Tom is going to sort me out but how much for it?
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Mikeymead"Quote from: "1979scotte"Turns out i dont have a FL front under brace will rectify that soonest.
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I have a spare one if you want Scotte, all painted (hand painted) up in gunmetal.
I think Tom is going to sort me out but how much for it?
Well unpainted ones tend to go for about £40. This one has been rubbed back to bare metal, a coat of rust resistant primer, 2 coats of paint and one coat of lacquer. So about £55.00.
Quote from: "Mikeymead"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Mikeymead"I have a spare one if you want Scotte, all painted (hand painted) up in gunmetal.
I think Tom is going to sort me out but how much for it?
Well unpainted ones tend to go for about £40. This one has been rubbed back to bare metal, a coat of rust resistant primer, 2 coats of paint and one coat of lacquer. So about £55.00.
That seems more the fair Mike but Tom is getting me one for mate rates so i shall pass.
Before I get all giddy and express an interest, what brace are we actually talking about? Bearing in mind I'm PFL.. cheers.
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Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Before I get all giddy and express an interest, what brace are we actually talking about? Bearing in mind I'm PFL.. cheers.
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If you look at Scotte's photo you will see two metal bars running from near the front of the car back towards the centre brace, they are just inside of the suspension mounts. On the FL they added two horizontal bars the join the two existing longitudinal ones.
Aaah, I'll not get giddy then but thanks for the explanation! [emoji2]
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Just topped up the V6.
26 mpg.
Only 216 miles covered and 90 of those were on the m25/11.
Worst turbo mpg was 27 even on the Highland drive i was getting 30mpg.
but she makes a lurvely noise. s8) 8) s8)
Did you buy a V6 for economy? s;-) ;-) s;-)
Quote from: "StuC"but she makes a lurvely noise. s8) 8) s8)
Did you buy a V6 for economy? s;-) ;-) s;-)
No but imagine how bad mpg would be with a supercharger and supra injectors. s:( :( s:(
supplementary front tank to help with the weight ratio FR:RR ? s;-) ;-) s;-)
A few more accents to go with your black car?
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Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"A few more accents to go with your black car?
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Think 80 quid is a bit steep.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"A few more accents to go with your black car?
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Think 80 quid is a bit steep.
£90, you missed off the p&p.
I've been looking at those sets to brighten up the dash but there's no red option...
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Might be worth getting it on a dyno to see what the AFR is
I'd be getting a decent FPR if it hasn't already got one and I'd replace the fuel pump
Might see half decent mpg then
Quote from: "vinp182"Might be worth getting it on a dyno to see what the AFR is
I'd be getting a decent FPR if it hasn't already got one and I'd replace the fuel pump
Might see half decent mpg then
She does smell rich but the car is new to me.
Want her on a dyno anyway.
Thanks for the advice.
Tomos did question the mapping at the sale.
Did he give you both ecu's?
If so, now the throttle body is cleaned, is it worth trying the other ECU?
Quote from: "StuC"Tomos did question the mapping at the sale.
Did he give you both ecu's?
If so, now the throttle body is cleaned, is it worth trying the other ECU?
Anything is worth a try but i think its a long shot.
I am doubtful it will be any different.
Nothing to lose springs to mind. :-) :-) :-)
Will it still diagnose in the same way? i.e. OBD2
Just wondering if it would throw up an error and still give you a light.
Steve from D1Customs may bring his diagnostic machine to Ding Day like last year so may be able to check it over for you?
24 MPG s:( :( s:(
Cant be right can it?
dunno... Our Jag does 24 on a good day s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "shnazzle"dunno... Our Jag does 24 on a good day s:) :) s:)
Your jag must weigh 1500kg even with the V6 the MR2 cant be more than 1100
Depends what style of driving you have been doing but when both my afr sensors failed I was getting at worst 20 and you could smell the unburnt fuel behind me.
I wouldnt expect to drop below 28 now though but dont normally bother working it out so that is a bit of a guess. My fuel light came on at about 260 on the last tank.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "shnazzle"dunno... Our Jag does 24 on a good day s:) :) s:)
Your jag must weigh 1500kg even with the V6 the MR2 cant be more than 1100
I think closer to 2 ton, but yes 24 does seem a bit on the low side. Surely it can only be a case of o2/afr sensors or poor maintenance? It's not poor maintenance.. So surely there must be a mechanical/electrical issue somewhere?
Could be 02 sensors.
I cant make my obd2 scanner work perhaps it doesnt with the V6 swap.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Could be 02 sensors.
I cant make my obd2 scanner work perhaps it doesnt with the V6 swap.
Perhaps it's the midi-chlorians causing a disturbance?
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Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Quote from: "1979scotte"Could be 02 sensors.
I cant make my obd2 scanner work perhaps it doesnt with the V6 swap.
Perhaps it's the midi-chlorians causing a disturbance?
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Please do not make reference to the truly awful episodes 1-3
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Quote from: "1979scotte"Could be 02 sensors.
I cant make my obd2 scanner work perhaps it doesnt with the V6 swap.
Perhaps it's the midi-chlorians causing a disturbance?
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Please do not make reference to the truly awful episodes 1-3
Haha! You're not wrong! I was in the same room while the most recent one was one a while back and that didn't seem too clever either...
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Surely midi-chlorians still play a role in the other episodes s:) :) s:)
How else is the strength of the Force in someone determined?
Quote from: "shnazzle"Surely midi-chlorians still play a role in the other episodes s:) :) s:)
How else is the strength of the Force in someone determined?
Nah, it was all just suspension of disbelief until they came out with the reasons behind it, didn't need to know the hows and the whys just that Princess Leia was a fox...
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Spaceballs was far superior
Haha. I love that movie! What ever happened to Rick Moranis?
Quote from: "shnazzle"Haha. I love that movie! What ever happened to Rick Moranis?
He got swallowed up by the merchandise!
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Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Quote from: "shnazzle"Haha. I love that movie! What ever happened to Rick Moranis?
He got swallowed up by the merchandise!
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His wife died and he gave up acting to look after his kids
There were rumours of a SB2. Apparently Mel Brooks would only do it if he could get Rick to come out of retirement
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Quote from: "shnazzle"Haha. I love that movie! What ever happened to Rick Moranis?
He got swallowed up by the merchandise!
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His wife died and he gave up acting to look after his kids
There were rumours of a SB2. Apparently Mel Brooks would only do it if he could get Rick to come out of retirement
He's released a few "country" albums as well and done some voice work for animated films, he's one of those actors you don't realise how many films you've seen with them in until you sit and think about it.
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Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Quote from: "shnazzle"Surely midi-chlorians still play a role in the other episodes s:) :) s:)
How else is the strength of the Force in someone determined?
Nah, it was all just suspension of disbelief
Ooooh, what are the spring rates?
Quote from: "Topdownman"Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Quote from: "shnazzle"Surely midi-chlorians still play a role in the other episodes s:) :) s:)
How else is the strength of the Force in someone determined?
Nah, it was all just suspension of disbelief
Ooooh, what are the spring rates?
Ouch! Well done...
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Will you lot f off and spam someone elses thread.
Quote from: "Topdownman"Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Quote from: "shnazzle"Surely midi-chlorians still play a role in the other episodes s:) :) s:)
How else is the strength of the Force in someone determined?
Nah, it was all just suspension of disbelief
Ooooh, what are the spring rates?
LOL! Nice Simon. You win.
Sorry Scotty s:( :( s:(
Back to yellow mr2s.
How does the v6 get its engine management sorted anyway? Is it running the stock ECU in tandem?
Quote from: "1979scotte"Will you lot f off and spam someone elses thread.
Yeah, sorry, I was forgetting where I was...
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Quote from: "shnazzle"Quote from: "Topdownman"Quote from: "Call the midlife!"Nah, it was all just suspension of disbelief
Ooooh, what are the spring rates?
LOL! Nice Simon. You win.
Sorry Scotty s:( :( s:(
Back to yellow mr2s.
How does the v6 get its engine management sorted anyway? Is it running the stock ECU in tandem?
Not 100% it certainley has 1mz ecu running the engine not sure if there is a 1zz running the clocks.
Small update.
Averaged 31mpg on the motorway to ding day and back happy with that.
Have a small fluid leak from somewhere. its dripping from the gearbox bell housing but after sending a few pics to headcase he reckons it could be the rocker cover gaskets and its dripping all the way down.
Fitted FL rear lights at ding day have the fronts to do next.
Also have camber bolts, roll centre adjusters and adjustable rear droplinks to fit. Wont do those until next year probably and then go to WIM for a setup.
Did you need the basket books as you have meister coilovers
Quote from: "StuC"Did you need the basket books as you have meister coilovers
You will have to explain that one.
I thought you could adjust the camber with the meister coilover set up, is that not the case?
Quote from: "StuC"I thought you could adjust the camber with the meister coilover set up, is that not the case?
Front yes rear no
Nice, the yellow edging is a bit bold, at least its not the whole car :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "1979scotte"Fitted FL rear lights at ding day have the fronts to do next.
You need to help me out with the wiring mate. My car is daytime only since I fitted my front FL light,s they don't work proper!!!
Quote from: "JoeCool"Quote from: "1979scotte"Fitted FL rear lights at ding day have the fronts to do next.
You need to help me out with the wiring mate. My car is daytime only since I fitted my front FL light,s they don't work proper!!!
John gave me some wiring adapters so i hope it will be ok.
Headcase will help me sort it he did his wifes with no problem.
Where'd you get the roll centre adjusters?
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "StuC"I thought you could adjust the camber with the meister coilover set up, is that not the case?
Front yes rear no
Seconded. You need camber bolts for the rear ones. I swapped them prior to alignment right after I fitted the MeisterR's
Quote from: "shnazzle"Where'd you get the roll centre adjusters?
GT4 play.
Stupink thinks they make a big difference.
Worth a try.
Oil leak sorted. Cam sensor needed sealant.
Earthed the temperature sensor back to the ECU so that should stop playing silly buggers.
Raised the ride height by 10mm.
Sorted the squeaky breaks.
Need new off side rear caliper handbrake won't behave.
Thinking about the rotrex.
May run it without an ECU up to 5 PSI.
We shall see.
Have you found a Rotrex?
Making progress then Scott! What do you expect a Rotrex @5psi will bring to the party?
Quote from: "s12vea"Have you found a Rotrex?
Buy it straight from Denmark- wayyyyy cheaper. Think alternative automotive sell them for about £1k.
Quote from: "s12vea"Have you found a Rotrex?
I know where to get one from but I don't have one.
Will probably go for a C30 94.
They are double dear.
Quote from: "MR TWO"Making progress then Scott! What do you expect a Rotrex @5psi will bring to the party?
Not to sure but at least 242 bhp.
That's what the TRD 1MZ supercharger makes at 4 psi without any kind of cooling and running on stock ECU.
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Quote from: "s12vea"Have you found a Rotrex?
Buy it straight from Denmark- wayyyyy cheaper. Think alternative automotive sell them for about £1k.
Got a link Google wasn't too helpful.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "MR TWO"Making progress then Scott! What do you expect a Rotrex @5psi will bring to the party?
Not to sure but at least 242 bhp.
That's what the TRD 1MZ supercharger makes at 4 psi without any kind of cooling and running on stock ECU.
Ok... Which gearbox do you have?
Quote from: "MR TWO"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "MR TWO"Making progress then Scott! What do you expect a Rotrex @5psi will bring to the party?
Not to sure but at least 242 bhp.
That's what the TRD 1MZ supercharger makes at 4 psi without any kind of cooling and running on stock ECU.
Ok... Which gearbox do you have?
S54.
People make them work with 2GR so supercharger won't pose a problem.
Years ago it was thought that they wouldn't cope and everyone went with e153 for high torque applications but am confident it will be fine for my power level.
Some mechanical sympathy may be required.
We shall see.
Also fitted FL front underbrace.
Busy day.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "MR TWO"Quote from: "1979scotte"Not to sure but at least 242 bhp.
That's what the TRD 1MZ supercharger makes at 4 psi without any kind of cooling and running on stock ECU.
Ok... Which gearbox do you have?
S54.
People make them work with 2GR so supercharger won't pose a problem.
Years ago it was thought that they wouldn't cope and everyone went with e153 for high torque applications but am confident it will be fine for my power level.
Some mechanical sympathy may be required.
We shall see.
Sounds good to me. I have S54 too. I will continue to watch this thread closely!
Me too. Rotrex definately in my future plans
V6 rotrex huh? Will have to see how that compares to my K20 when I get than one finished. For now, I'm concentrating to get the 2zz on the road ASAP s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "MR TWO"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "MR TWO"Ok... Which gearbox do you have?
S54.
People make them work with 2GR so supercharger won't pose a problem.
Years ago it was thought that they wouldn't cope and everyone went with e153 for high torque applications but am confident it will be fine for my power level.
Some mechanical sympathy may be required.
We shall see.
Sounds good to me. I have S54 too. I will continue to watch this thread closely!
Nothing is going to happen before February when my insurance runs out.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Nothing is going to happen before February when my insurance runs out.
Sounds good to me. The K20 will be fully rebuilt by yours truly around October time and hopefully in the car around March/April.
I shall keep an eye on this thread s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Quote from: "manos3003"V6 rotrex huh? Will have to see how that compares to my K20 when I get than one finished. For now, I'm concentrating to get the 2zz on the road ASAP s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
K20 will be great but it won't give you the torque that the V6 can.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "manos3003"V6 rotrex huh? Will have to see how that compares to my K20 when I get than one finished. For now, I'm concentrating to get the 2zz on the road ASAP s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
K20 will be great but it won't give you the torque that the V6 can.
With a K24 block I'll have enough torque. I have a Rotrex lying around, currently pondering whether that'll go on the 2zz or the K20 s:P :P s:P
I didnt realise how cheap a piggyback the DET3 is from Ecumaster.
m http://www.ecumaster.co.uk/products/digital-ecu-tuner-3 (http://www.ecumaster.co.uk/products/digital-ecu-tuner-3) m
m http://rrrshop.co.uk/digital-ecu-tuner-3-16-p.asp (http://rrrshop.co.uk/digital-ecu-tuner-3-16-p.asp) m
£195 quid including MAP sensor terminated wires and VAT.
Seems stupid to even consider running a low boost stock ECU setup when you can get something for so little cash.
Here's another thing.
I was under the impression that forged rods and pistons for the 1mz where either impossible to come by mega money.
However it seems Pauter do forged 1mz rods $1400 which ain't cheap but MWR do a set for the 2GR for $995 which several sources suggest will fit on a 1mz no problems.
JE pistons will do a custom set for about $1000 which again isn't cheap but isn't mental either.
Also while I am in cloud Cuckoo land I was thinking about 6 speed gearboxes.
Woodsport fit the EA60 box from the Auris diesel and Lotus Evora to some of there 2gr swaps.
Lot of custom work involved comes in at over 3k.
Seems to me though that you could pick up a secondhand box from eBay for as little as 250 quid which must be over a 1k saving on a new box.
Looks like I have some new long term plans.
You can tell I am sitting indoors with bugger all to do s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Hide the credit cards quickly!
Quote from: "mikek"Hide the credit cards quickly!
It's just nice to know I won't need a lottery win.
Will take a while but big power is possible.
It will be a monster, but that's what you bought it for......Looking forward to watching it happen and then getting a ride. Glad you've got your enthusiasm back for these great little cars and this great little club!
Quote from: "mikek"It will be a monster, but that's what you bought it for......Looking forward to watching it happen and then getting a ride. Glad you've got your enthusiasm back for these great little cars and this great little club!
Still waiting for a ride in a 2zz.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "mikek"It will be a monster, but that's what you bought it for......Looking forward to watching it happen and then getting a ride. Glad you've got your enthusiasm back for these great little cars and this great little club!
Still waiting for a ride in a 2zz.
Anytime. Just don't panic when the revs go above 6000!!!!!
Quote from: "mikek"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "mikek"It will be a monster, but that's what you bought it for......Looking forward to watching it happen and then getting a ride. Glad you've got your enthusiasm back for these great little cars and this great little club!
Still waiting for a ride in a 2zz.
Anytime. Just don't panic when the revs go above 6000!!!!!
It spontaneously combusts surely.
Mine did....
Nah, you've heard what they should like. It's just like that inside, only.you don't really go much faster. It just feels like it.
Chargecooler and associated plumbing ordered.
Rotrex will be ordered Monday.
I AM SKINT.
Exciting times, I shall be watching with interest!
Can't wait.......
Quote from: "1979scotte"Chargecooler and associated plumbing ordered.
Rotrex will be ordered Monday.
I AM SKINT.
Where are you ordering from?
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Quote from: "1979scotte"Chargecooler and associated plumbing ordered.
Rotrex will be ordered Monday.
I AM SKINT.
Where are you ordering from?
Headcase has a place for the chargecooler and radiator which are proven to work really well but not sure where they're coming from. It is one of the coolers with the in and out on the same side.
Kind of joined up horseshoe shape. Same as on the 2zz Rotrex he did a short time ago.
Assume the rotrex will be coming from TTS. They are a bonafide Rotrex dealer and their price includes everything you need aside from the oil cooler.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Chargecooler and associated plumbing ordered.
Rotrex will be ordered Monday.
I AM SKINT.
Apart from the skint bit - very good news indeed!
when being done?
Quote from: "KRAMSNEHPETS"when being done?
Not until insurance renewal sometime in February.
New pump , regulator and rail being fitted to mine soon. Mapped at 7500 rpm at the moment, pump not up to the last 1000 rpm!
Quote from: "KRAMSNEHPETS"New pump , regulator and rail being fitted to mine soon. Mapped at 7500 rpm at the moment, pump not up to the last 1000 rpm!
It's a beast. Another 1000rpm!!!!
I am a little concerned that you may start making too much torque for the box but you can always get another. Could it be the most power from a 2zz in a MK3? Surely on stock internals.
What are you intake temps like with that chargecooler?
normal driving around, 18, 80mph cruse 25, 1st, 2nd, 3rd , 4th max revs thrash, 49, but quickly goes down to normal when you back off
will just have to see how box copes with it
Just another note for myself.
Have a Halfords battery fitted currently. Weighs in the region of 17kg. Cranks about 500 amps.
An Odessey Extreme Racing 25 weighs in at 7kg and cranks 520 amps.
m https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/od ... 680-ody-25 (https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/odyssey-extreme-racing-25-battery-pc680-ody-25) m
Could be worth the investment. Thinks it's a reasonable way to loose 10kg.
Although I have no idea how it would cope with short journeys and being parked up for a while.
Quote from: "KRAMSNEHPETS"normal driving around, 18, 80mph cruse 25, 1st, 2nd, 3rd , 4th max revs thrash, 49, but quickly goes down to normal when you back off
Sounds pretty good to me not exactly been cold out lately.
18 must be pretty close to ambient.
A Rotrex C30-94 and accessories has been ordered.
Spec below.(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/01bd81_a3fa7ffae0854a73a6c7819cc9062f75~mv2.png)
s:) :) s:)
So Scott...
Not so long ago you were p!ssing & moaning about poor mpg from your V6 & now you're adding a Rotrex?
That's gonna help s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Are you getting an LPG conversion too? (Honest. not trolling or anything s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: )
Quote from: "cptspaulding"So Scott...
Not so long ago you were p!ssing & moaning about poor mpg from your V6 & now you're adding a Rotrex?
That's gonna help s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Are you getting an LPG conversion too? (Honest. not trolling or anything s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: )
Would you like a small wager?
I think I may see a small increase in MPG.
A rotrex has more like turbo efficiency.
And my turbo was good on a run.
Terrible when pushing on.
am getting about 23mpg......
Quote from: "KRAMSNEHPETS"am getting about 23mpg......
Not good but you are running injectors three times bigger than mine and around twice as much boost so hopefully it won't be too bad. You're booting everywhere I bet too. Got to get over 30 on a run. Please God.
Maybe it's wishful thinking.
Went out 6.15am sunday just for a 70 mile drive, was booting it a bit.....
Quote from: "KRAMSNEHPETS"Went out 6.15am sunday just for a 70 mile drive, was booting it a bit.....
All within the rule of law I am quite sure.
Of course
Quote from: "KRAMSNEHPETS"Went out 6.15am sunday just for a 70 mile drive, was booting it a bit.....
Next time you do that drive south of the river I'll show you my favourite roads.
Going in for some fettling on Saturday.
We seem to have an overheating issue when stationary and a few other bits.
The joy of modified cars
Hope you get everything sorted ready for the charger
Quote from: "1979scotte"Going in for some fettling on Saturday.
We seem to have an overheating issue when stationary and a few other bits.
Cooling issues are always the worst. You fix one thing, then another thing pops up s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Let us know of your findings
Bee all sorted now Scott?
Quote from: "StuC"Bee all sorted now Scott?
No mate she is going in for some fettling as I posted just a couple of hours ago. :p
I thought she was going in over the weekend just gone!
I hadn't paid any attention to simple things like dates & times! Sheesh!
Driver's side exhaust tip has now fallen off somewhere.
Buggeration.
I have a spare square one from the Mazda-rati in the garage if you need it? [emoji6]
No Mazda cast offs thank you.
Its aftermarket, not Mazda OE. [emoji6]
Overheating issue seems to be rad cap not holding pressure.
New blueprint one ordered hopefully will do the job.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Overheating issue seems to be rad cap not holding pressure.
New blueprint one ordered hopefully will do the job.
Let me know the part number as I could do with one of these!
Quote from: "Topdownman"Quote from: "1979scotte"Overheating issue seems to be rad cap not holding pressure.
New blueprint one ordered hopefully will do the job.
Let me know the part number as I could do with one of these!
I was thinking of you when Pat told me about the cap.
If it's a proper fit I shall let you know.
Fingers crossed!
Cheers.
I hope it's a simple fix for you mate. You could do with some easy wins!
Cheap fix.....makes a nice change!
These cheap fixes don't come round very often
Charge cooler rad trial fitted today.
Rotrex finally arrives Wednesday.
If Headcase has the time will trial fit that too.
Roll on February.
You're insane.
Quote from: "JoeCool"You're insane.
Probably but why this time?
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Quote from: "Topdownman"Fingers crossed!
Cheers.
See above.
Does it look the old one?
Have you got a picture of it?
What pressure is it?
Sorry for all the questions!
Actually amazon have a good photo of it and it seems to look like mine although 1.1 is higher than mine which is either 0.9 or 1.0 from memory.
They're both non vvti 1mz.
Mine was just run at a standstill for an hour and didn't over heat or blow it's top.
I have a photo of my current one with me and its a 1.0 so will order one too.
PS i get 30mpg on a motorway run and mines a filthy fat pig s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "tomaky"PS i get 30mpg on a motorway run and mines a filthy fat pig s:) :) s:)
My record is 32.
Car back still minus an exhaust tip.
New front lights fitted.
Rear caliper un seized. Will need changing.
New rad cap.
Iridium spark plugs
Oil and filter
And a new bit a fuel hose for the injector rail.
Thought I could smell fuel upon investigation it was peeing out. Technical term apparently.
Hopefully more mpg now.
Certain seems to have a tiny bit more poke.
Also this finally arrived
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I am a believer that,if something looks right it very often is, and that Rotrex looks right.
+1 Tony [emoji3]
Quote from: "Joesson"I am a believer that,if something looks right it very often is, and that Rotrex looks right.
Quote from: "StuC"+1 Tony [emoji3]
Thanks guys.
Much smaller than I thought it would be.
Can understand why they are so popular for aftermarket fitment.
Can't imagine there is a car out there without space for one.
We just need it in context now fella. [emoji6]
Quote from: "StuC"We just need it in context now fella. [emoji6]
Tone.
Officially.
Lowered.
Have you cut his legs off then?
He was encouraging a couple of posts ago! s;-) ;-) s;-)
The report of my lowering has been greatly exaggerated.
With apologies to Mark Twain.
Possible coolant leak will keep my eye on it.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Possible coolant leak will keep my eye on it.
The weather has just turned cooler than it has been, have you turned your heater on after not using it for a while ?
Had a few of those!
If you can, get it on a ramp with the engine not too hot. That helped me to see one of my clips under the frunk was weeping and also a drip from near the alternator. If its too hot though you may not see any drips as it will just evaporate.
Quote from: "Joesson"Quote from: "1979scotte"Possible coolant leak will keep my eye on it.
The weather has just turned cooler than it has been, have you turned your heater on after not using it for a while ?
I don't think so.
I usually have the roof down so the heater goes on a fare bit.
It has certainly turned cold all of a sudden.
Quote from: "Topdownman"Had a few of those!
If you can, get it on a ramp with the engine not too hot. That helped me to see one of my clips under the frunk was weeping and also a drip from near the alternator. If its too hot though you may not see any drips as it will just evaporate.
Did the rad cap fit your engine properly?
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Topdownman"Had a few of those!
If you can, get it on a ramp with the engine not too hot. That helped me to see one of my clips under the frunk was weeping and also a drip from near the alternator. If its too hot though you may not see any drips as it will just evaporate.
Did the rad cap fit your engine properly?
Yes , it did thanks.
Havent had to top it up since.
(Quickly touches wood).
Quote from: "Topdownman"Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "Topdownman"Had a few of those!
If you can, get it on a ramp with the engine not too hot. That helped me to see one of my clips under the frunk was weeping and also a drip from near the alternator. If its too hot though you may not see any drips as it will just evaporate.
Did the rad cap fit your engine properly?
Yes , it did thanks.
Havent had to top it up since.
(Quickly touches wood).
Good to hear.
Looking forward to seeing this on the HD s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "vinp182"Looking forward to seeing this on the HD s:) :) s:)
Going to need a lot of shakedown miles in March!
Quote from: "vinp182"Looking forward to seeing this on the HD s:) :) s:)
Not going Vin.
Canceled it.
Would want to put a few thousand miles on the supercharger before trying it on the HD.
Found a leak.
Pipe for rad on passenger side.
Don't think clip is holding on the join looks massively corroded.
Need Mikalors? I've got a bunch in stock, if you give me a diameter I can post you a couple. I used them for my Rad but only needed 8 f the 10 I bought.
Quote from: "JoeCool"Need Mikalors? I've got a bunch in stock, if you give me a diameter I can post you a couple. I used them for my Rad but only needed 8 f the 10 I bought.
Pretty sure my old man will have loads of jubilee clips maybe even a mikalor or 2.
Will probably change a few while I am at it
Thanks for the offer much appreciated.
I found that I had a few clip issues with my old V6, post conversion. Having a good look round and upgrading to newer/ better ones is a good plan. I installed a suplementary electric water pump on mine, as well, which helped with heat soak issues, I had in the early days and was useful if it had been given the beans for a bit!
Got home from Nottingham in the Polo to find my other exhaust tip has fallen off the two.
This is turning to to a.project and a half.
Talk about money pit.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Got home from Nottingham in the Polo to find my other exhaust tip has fallen off the two.
This is turning to to a.project and a half.
Talk about money pit.
Oh bugger, I could go into all the "it will be worth it in the end" stuff but you've probably heard that all before. Still I'm sure it will be.
Make sure the new ones are welded on properly before the SC arrives, dont want them shooting off the first time you give it the beans!
The decision has been made.
Det3 piggyback ECU from ECUmaster for Xmas.
Now just to decide whether I want this 450cc injectors or not.
Also a nice twin center exit exhaust could be on the cards.
Cannot wait to see this. Roll on Feb!
Quote from: "mikek"Cannot wait to see this. Roll on Feb!
So much to sort before then.
Always more problems.
Never ending! Do these cars ever get finished?
Quote from: "1979scotte"Got home from Nottingham in the Polo to find my other exhaust tip has fallen off the two.
This is turning to to a.project and a half.
Talk about money pit.
s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
feel for you.
Sounds interesting mate, it's going to be mental when done
Quote from: "s12vea"Sounds interesting mate, it's going to be mental when done
It's going to be different.
I really want to try out ECUmaster products they offer great value but there seems to be a lack of tuners. Thankfully Headcase knows a guy who although is officially Link and Unichip will map practically anything.
Guinea pig. Its all software. A good tuner will figure it out.
Liking the sound of the centre exhaust fella. [emoji846]
Liking the pun, intended, I'm sure. s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Actually not. Lol.
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Nice!! Is that a snes ????
Quote from: "wotugonado"Nice!! Is that a snes ????
SNES mini classic.
20 built in games and the possibility of adding more.
2 controllers too.
Awesome.
ECU is pretty good too.
How much was the ecu? And what swung you towards it in the end?
Quote from: "1979scotte"Quote from: "wotugonado"Nice!! Is that a snes ????
SNES mini classic.
20 built in games and the possibility of adding more.
2 controllers too.
Awesome.
Nice, i think I've still got my original snes somewhere.
Super R type is legend.
The snes mini is so hackable you could probably use it as an ecu.
I also got one for Xmas, I've been playing Mario kart and nba jam with the boy! Mine also has 20+1+40-odd games on it.
Super mario bros FTW!
Just sayin'
Street Fighter 2 champion edition.
Nuff said.
Quote from: "shnazzle"How much was the ecu? And what swung you towards it in the end?
170 plus shipping including map sensor.
m http://www.retroturbo.com/?product=digi ... map-sensor (http://www.retroturbo.com/?product=digital-ecu-tuner-3-250kpa-inbuild-map-sensor) m
The price mainly also the road less travelled and it's got loads of features compared to something like emanage blue.
Injectors ordered.
OEM spec 2jzge injectors from a non turbo Supra.
360cc which is a useful improvement over stock 1mz injectors which are 250-290cc.
So the injectors aren't 360cc they're 312cc so perhaps not such a massive upgrade although it seems more than likely that the stock injectors are only 240cc so a reasonable step up.
Customs only charged 22 quid so 177 all in for a set of completely refurbished and flow matched injectors can't be bad.
It would be at least 70 quid to get a secondhand set cleaned.
They is so much conflicting information online.
Here are said injectors arrived Saturday.
Look pretty good.
Nice and clean with correct part numbers.
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Hey @1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) ,
What's the timeline for the rotrex now?
Quote from: jvanzyl on February 1, 2018, 08:49
Hey @1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) ,
What's the timeline for the rotrex now?
Start getting insurance quotes this week.
She goes down to see uncle Patrick on the 10th and I collect on the 24th when the new insurance kicks in.
Exciting times ahead.
It's finally happening THIS month. In 3 weeks you will have something unseen by this world!! [emoji219][emoji219][emoji219][emoji219][emoji219][emoji219]
+1 @ Steve
Quote from: StuC on February 3, 2018, 14:25
It's finally happening THIS month. In 3 weeks you will have something unseen by this world!! [emoji219][emoji219][emoji219][emoji219][emoji219][emoji219]
+1 @ Steve
Yes finally happening.
It isn't the first V6 supercharged MK3.
I believe that honour went to Rogue Motorsport.
I think one of their race cars had a 2gr with an Eaton blower bolted on.
Good chance it's the first road legal V6 supercharged MK3.
Bloody sure nobody has a rotrex 1mz roadster in the UK.
@StuC (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15683)
Is there another supercharged Bee? [emoji219][emoji219]
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) 1 more big sleep fella! Justsayin' :-D
Quote from: StuC on February 9, 2018, 16:42
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) 1 more big sleep fella! Justsayin' :-D
Kinda.
She will be away for 2 weeks.
This is an awesome mod to an already ace machine! Looking forward to seeing the detail and result. Well done for going for it Scotte.
Quote from: loadswine on February 9, 2018, 19:16
This is an awesome mod to an already ace machine! Looking forward to seeing the detail and result. Well done for going for it Scotte.
Thanks Nigel.
Hope it will be as good as we all think it should.
Tbh as the prices of 2gr continue to fall going Fi on a 1mz is probably not financially viable but it is different.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 9, 2018, 19:30
Tbh as the prices of 2gr continue to fall going Fi on a 1mz is probably not financially viable but it is different.
If it came down to finance, non of us would spend money on these cars as they're not worth much. But we all do cuz they're awesome little motors, yours has the potential to be a little more awesome than the rest, so lead the way.....
Well said that man.. err Dan! 8)
Quote from: StuC on February 9, 2018, 20:21
Well said that man.. err Dan! 8)
:D why thank you ....err stu
And so it begins
Lets hope he can afford the insurance tehe. I need to get an exhaust sorted, at least mine may sound better hehe
Actual work to be done in no particular order.
Fit charge cooler, rad and pipe work
Fit Rotrex C30-94
Fit ECUmaster DET3 piggyback
Fit Supra NA injectors
Fit TTE Exhaust
Map ECU.
Flush coolant
General maintenance discs pads oil etc
Hopefully modify dipstick so oil can be checked without the need for a spanner.
Fit camber bolts
Fit roll centre adjusters
Fit adjustable droplinks
Fit EGT, AFR, oil temp/pressure and boost sensors for my PLX multi gauge
Think that's it.
And what's he gonna do on it tomorrow! 8)
Reading the earlier comment about cost, just how much can a 2gr be done for, these days?
I am having bad thoughts here! Lol
Question on the tte exhaust. Is that going to flow okay for this one?
Quote from: loadswine on February 10, 2018, 14:41
Reading the earlier comment about cost, just how much can a 2gr be done for, these days?
I am having bad thoughts here! Lol
Question on the tte exhaust. Is that going to flow okay for this one?
2gr swap is still expensive however the price of Lexus RX350 have come down. You can get a high miler for less than 4k which gets you the ECU and engine you need. Obviously you would then get a few quid back for the rest of the car. Until recently people were still paying 5k importing the engine from the states.
You don't need an E153 an S series will cope if you aren't a silly boy saving you a few quid.
You need engine mounts and manifolds and I am not sure about the cost of those.
People used to say 8-10k for the 2gr I reckon 6-8 these days.
Maybe optimistic but maybe not.
Pretty sure the TTE is far from ideal but they look and sound great.
It's something to look into next year if I want more power.
Along with rising rate fuel pressure regulator and high flow fuel pump.
Quote from: loadswine on February 10, 2018, 14:41
Reading the earlier comment about cost, just how much can a 2gr be done for, these days?
I am having bad thoughts here! Lol
Question on the tte exhaust. Is that going to flow okay for this one?
There's an 2gr engine forsale on ebay for £2800 so just add a few quid for labor...
Quote from: MR TWO on February 10, 2018, 16:06
Quote from: loadswine on February 10, 2018, 14:41
Reading the earlier comment about cost, just how much can a 2gr be done for, these days?
I am having bad thoughts here! Lol
Question on the tte exhaust. Is that going to flow okay for this one?
There's an 2gr engine forsale on ebay for £2800 so just add a few quid for labor...
Good price.
Always wary of engines alone.
Does it come with all ancillaries?
Does it even run properly?
The ECU would have to be purchased separately.
That is food for thought. I don't have the skills to do that level of work myself, so it would mean speaking to someone like Patrick for a price I think.
I am sure the TTE will deliver on the sound front, absolutely!! 8)
Quote from: loadswine on February 10, 2018, 17:26
That is food for thought. I don't have the skills to do that level of work myself, so it would mean speaking to someone like Patrick for a price I think.
I am sure the TTE will deliver on the sound front, absolutely!! 8)
If it doesn't sound like thunder I am going to be disappointed.
It will sound like two thunders or more!
It's gonna be a beast when done, hopefully many progress pictures to come.
Quote from: s12vea on February 10, 2018, 19:05
It's gonna be a beast when done, hopefully many progress pictures to come.
Hopefully a teathered beast not a wild one.
Pat usually sends me a few pics but one engine bay looks much like another.
"one engine bay looks much like another."
Some are more full than others ;)
Quote from: Joesson on February 11, 2018, 09:22
"one engine bay looks much like another."
Some are more full than others ;)
Very true.
There won't be any space left after this.
Battery has to be moved for the charge cooler to even fit.
And the supercharger is almost invisible hidden behind the bulk of the engine.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 10, 2018, 19:52
Quote from: s12vea on February 10, 2018, 19:05
It's gonna be a beast when done, hopefully many progress pictures to come.
Hopefully a teathered beast not a wild one.
Pat usually sends me a few pics but one engine bay looks much like another.
Reminds me of an old Smiths tune
"As Anthony said to Cleopatra
As he opened a crate of ale,
Oh, I say :
Some girls are bigger than others"
Quote from: MR TWO on February 11, 2018, 11:26
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 10, 2018, 19:52
Quote from: s12vea on February 10, 2018, 19:05
It's gonna be a beast when done, hopefully many progress pictures to come.
Hopefully a teathered beast not a wild one.
Pat usually sends me a few pics but one engine bay looks much like another.
Reminds me of an old Smiths tune
"As Anthony said to Cleopatra
As he opened a crate of ale,
Oh, I say :
Some girls are bigger than others"
Morrissey is a complete and utter ****
Smith's are good just a shame about him.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 11, 2018, 13:24
Quote from: MR TWO on February 11, 2018, 11:26
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 10, 2018, 19:52
Quote from: s12vea on February 10, 2018, 19:05
It's gonna be a beast when done, hopefully many progress pictures to come.
Hopefully a teathered beast not a wild one.
Pat usually sends me a few pics but one engine bay looks much like another.
Reminds me of an old Smiths tune
"As Anthony said to Cleopatra
As he opened a crate of ale,
Oh, I say :
Some girls are bigger than others"
Morrissey is a complete and utter ****
Smith's are good just a shame about him.
Harsh! But that clears up any doubt that yu may have liked him.
What kind of numbers you hoping for Scott?
Anything that will help him win the lottery! ;-)
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on February 11, 2018, 21:56
What kind of numbers you hoping for Scott?
I would like to see in the region of 280 bhp with torque around 270 ft-lb but with a TTE exhaust flow may be limited so we shall see.
Injectors won't support much over 280 either.
On to insurance AF have just sent me a renewal for the car AS IS £860 which I find to be abusive.
Is that quote with the SC?
They did the same to me this year, pretty much doubled. I went with green light in the end for less than half of what flu quoted with an agreed value.
I won't be renewing with A Flux next time, after they royally screwed me on agreed value.
I agree with mikek, Greenlight were very good last time I used them, give them a go.
Quote from: wotugonado on February 12, 2018, 10:25
I won't be renewing with A Flux next time, after they royally screwed me on agreed value.
I agree with mikek, Greenlight were very good last time I used them, give them a go.
Sky just quoted me 735 with 280bhp.
Will give greenlight a call and will see if AF want to try to give me a competitive quote but I am thinking I will go elsewhere out of principal.
Fingers crossed for greenlight.
Its important to give business to those who quote low or they will stop doing it.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 12, 2018, 11:18
Sky just quoted me 735 with 280bhp.
Will give greenlight a call and will see if AF want to try to give me a competitive quote but I am thinking I will go elsewhere out of principal.
I've tried AF a few times and they wouldn't even insure my V6. Their sister company Flux Direct just offered me £405 all mods declared which was £140 less than Sky. That includes them knowing i crashed and wrote off my last MR2 and with three penalty points. Could be worth a shot!
Scott that renewal is terrible!!
Not sure why AF are being so uncompetitive with quotes these days.
Keep shopping around and play them all off against each other to get the cheapest price.
Quote from: s12vea on February 12, 2018, 16:38
Scott that renewal is terrible!!
Not sure why AF are being so uncompetitive with quotes these days.
Keep shopping around and play them all off against each other to get the cheapest price.
AF have now come down to 700 with all the new mods.
Their customer service people don't like it when tell them you aren't happy.
Tried to say quote was competitive compared to Sky because it was on installments and included breakdown but it didn't include the supercharger or any of my new mods.
Also with the new quote they haven't asked for a power output.
All the other companies have.
Strange.
Just be careful with them, those are the questions they'll ask once they've took your 💰 and it then costs an arm and leg to get out of the contract
Bad news.
Looks like bee6 is only running on 5 cylinders so Pat has ordered a new coil pack and hopefully that will clear up the problem. Compression was good btw.
Good news.
Talked to Greenlight insurance today.
Really nice people to deal with friendly honest and knowledgeable.
Got Bee6 insured for £530 200 better than Flux or Sky quote.
7500 miles annually
8k value
Up to 300bhp.
Would recommend you give them a call come renewal.
Hooray for the insurance quote, boo for the missing cylinder, sure Patrick will find it.
New coil pack in.
Now firing on 6 cylinders 8)
This time next week should be all sorted.
@shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356) we need a fingers crossed emoji. Pronto.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 16, 2018, 18:35
New coil pack in.
Now firing on 6 cylinders 8)
This time next week should be all sorted.
@shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356) we need a fingers crossed emoji. Pronto.
I shall do my best.
This group buy better happen!
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Quote from: 1979scotte on February 16, 2018, 18:35
New coil pack in.
Now firing on 6 cylinders 8)
This time next week should be all sorted.
@shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356) we need a fingers crossed emoji. Pronto.
I shall do my best.
This group buy better happen!
The ECUmaster group buy?
Should do it's a great deal.
Not sure I will be on it coil pack plus labour plus anymore unforseen issues could stop play.
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Why does my car look so clean?
Looks very clean, Pat must have taken pity :)
Nice to see that Bee6 is trying to fly too!
Quote from: s12vea on February 17, 2018, 13:44
Looks very clean, Pat must have taken pity :)
Perhaps it embarrassed him.
Or perhaps the Andy is a Photoshop legend.
Quote from: StuC on February 17, 2018, 14:42
Nice to see that Bee6 is trying to fly too!
Hopefully she won't try to fly next time I drive her ;)
Having her MOT done prior to mods.
Needs handbrake sorting exhaust and a bulb then all good for another year.
That's encouraging fella. [emoji3]
TTE exhaust fitted.
MOT passed.
Now time to start the real work!
PS Looks like Patrick didnt wash it after all.
Rotrex in.
:-*
Headcase is the man.
:notworthy:
Looking good
Good progress and a few steps closer
We are surely getting there now.
Now that's a picture worth waiting for. 😀
Quote from: StuC on February 22, 2018, 19:03
Now that's a picture worth waiting for. 😀
It so is.
Hey Scotte, show that Rotrex some respect and clean it's living quarters...
Excellent progress though. Looks like it's meant to go there. Hope I don't have to ditch my Eaton for a Rotrex...
What has Pat done here and why?
Answers on a postcard.
I might ditch the TRD SC on my Mk2. It's so rattly I find.
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Quote from: 1979scotte on February 23, 2018, 11:53
What has Pat done here and why?
Answers on a postcard.
Repositioned the coolant bottle
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Correct Andy.
For a bonus point can you tell me why?
Quote from: MrT on February 23, 2018, 11:37
Hey Scotte, show that Rotrex some respect and clean it's living quarters...
Excellent progress though. Looks like it's meant to go there. Hope I don't have to ditch my Eaton for a Rotrex...
Clean doesnt make it faster flower ;)
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 23, 2018, 13:02
Correct Andy.
For a bonus point can you tell me why?
Make room for the chargecooler gubbins?
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Quote from: ayresyboy on February 23, 2018, 12:52
I might ditch the TRD SC on my Mk2. It's so rattly I find.
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Does it need a service?
It will be a bit lethargic without it.
Your going to notice 50 bhp.
Moved it higher?
Quote from: ayresyboy on February 23, 2018, 13:09
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 23, 2018, 13:02
Correct Andy.
For a bonus point can you tell me why?
Make room for the chargecooler gubbins?
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Close enough.
To make way for the battery which needs to be moved to fit the charge cooler.
Didn't want to loose any storage up front.
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Quote from: ayresyboy on February 23, 2018, 12:52
I might ditch the TRD SC on my Mk2. It's so rattly I find.
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Does it need a service?
It will be a bit lethargic without it.
Your going to notice 50 bhp.
Was serviced. Unintentionally. Anyway it's in great condition. Just not doing it for me at mo
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Quote from: MrT on February 23, 2018, 11:37
Hey Scotte, show that Rotrex some respect and clean it's living quarters...
Excellent progress though. Looks like it's meant to go there. Hope I don't have to ditch my Eaton for a Rotrex...
Can't clean it need the extra weight to aid traction .
Eaton will be great on a 1zz.
Would prefer something a little more modern from their TVS line although not sure if they do anything small enough.
On the V6 it make so much torque from idle that I don't think they're such a good idea on a light weight vehicle.
Rotrex is going to add plenty up top.
I think. :P
More interesting pics.
Well to me any way.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 23, 2018, 14:53
More interesting pics.
Well to me any way.
Using every available space there. Great work
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Quote from: ayresyboy on February 23, 2018, 12:53
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 23, 2018, 11:53
What has Pat done here and why?
Answers on a postcard.
Repositioned the coolant bottle
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Ah, I was going to say he had put your light back in the wrong place..
Quote from: Topdownman on February 23, 2018, 15:06
Quote from: ayresyboy on February 23, 2018, 12:53
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 23, 2018, 11:53
What has Pat done here and why?
Answers on a postcard.
Repositioned the coolant bottle
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Ah, I was going to say he had put your light back in the wrong place..
Nice one Simon. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Imagine if my battery was there with the stupid ducktail paradox! :o :o :o
I am surprised it's not going up front.
Lovin' the new engine bay bling :-D
Quote from: StuC on February 23, 2018, 16:10
Imagine if my battery was there with the stupid ducktail paradox! :o :o :o
I am surprised it's not going up front.
Lovin' the new engine bay bling :-D
Storage is tight as it is.
Not too worried about the weight distribution if I was I would go for one of those tiny lithium Ion batterys.
Jump starting may be an issue, depending on how accessible the earth point back to body is. Just something to think about. ??? ???
The +ve terminal is nicely accessible though, which is always a positive feature. 8) 8) 8) 8)
Bringing things down to earth there Stu.
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Quote from: StuC on February 23, 2018, 16:10
Imagine if my battery was there with the stupid ducktail paradox! :o :o :o
I am surprised it's not going up front.
Lovin' the new engine bay bling :-D
Storage is tight as it is.
Not too worried about the weight distribution of I was I would go for one of those tiny lithium Ion battery.
I've got one of those small ones. Just don't go for the absolute smallest. Not enough crank for a V6 as I found out. Had the smaller one fitted underneath the frunk bucket. Now fitted the next size up actually in the frunk bucket. Ok lost a bit of space but a happy compromise.
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Quote from: StuC on February 23, 2018, 16:10
Imagine if my battery was there with the stupid ducktail paradox! :o :o :o
I am surprised it's not going up front.
Lovin' the new engine bay bling :-D
Storage is tight as it is.
Not too worried about the weight distribution of I was I would go for one of those tiny lithium Ion battery.
I've got one of those small ones. Just don't go for the absolute smallest. Not enough crank for a V6 as I found out. Had the smaller one fitted underneath the frunk bucket. Now fitted the next size up actually in the frunk bucket. Ok lost a bit of space but a happy compromise.
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What model is it Andy.
Can't move it move now Pat would kill me.
This is looking like a lovely build, I saw a couple of pics that Patrick posted on Facebook. Mine is there at the moment as well. I've got the grey mk1 v6 next to yours in the pic a couple of pages back
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 09:33
This is looking like a lovely build, I saw a couple of pics that Patrick posted on Facebook. Mine is there at the moment as well. I've got the grey mk1 v6 next to yours in the pic a couple of pages back
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Very nice it is too.
You've got Michael's TRD charger.
You went for the Det3 too.
Interested in a ECUmaster black?
We have a group buy going but I won't have the Dosh tbh.
Shame because it wouldn't really finish the car off nicely.
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 09:33
This is looking like a lovely build, I saw a couple of pics that Patrick posted on Facebook. Mine is there at the moment as well. I've got the grey mk1 v6 next to yours in the pic a couple of pages back
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Very nice it is too.
You've got Michael's TRD charger.
You went for the Det3 too.
Interested in a ECUmaster black?
We have a group buy going but I won't have the Dosh tbh.
Shame because it wouldn't really finish the car off nicely.
Yea I bought Michael's charger but I had to import a new pulley as he was running 8psi and it would have been way too much for a stock motor. A standalone ecu was never really an option for me as I only planned to getting the bodywork sorted this winter but Patrick "persuaded" me to get the trd charger which completely blew my budget. Hopefully it'll be mapped this week and I'll be down to pick it up on Saturday.
Which rotrex are you running? Do you have any idea what sort of performance it'll make? Is your engine still on stock internals?
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 10:09
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 24, 2018, 09:53
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 09:33
This is looking like a lovely build, I saw a couple of pics that Patrick posted on Facebook. Mine is there at the moment as well. I've got the grey mk1 v6 next to yours in the pic a couple of pages back
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Very nice it is too.
You've got Michael's TRD charger.
You went for the Det3 too.
Interested in a ECUmaster black?
We have a group buy going but I won't have the Dosh tbh.
Shame because it wouldn't really finish the car off nicely.
Yea I bought Michael's charger but I had to import a new pulley as he was running 8psi and it would have been way too much for a stock motor. A standalone ecu was never really an option for me as I only planned to getting the bodywork sorted this winter but Patrick "persuaded" me to get the trd charger which completely blew my budget. Hopefully it'll be mapped this week and I'll be down to pick it up on Saturday.
Which rotrex are you running? Do you have any idea what sort of performance it'll make? Is your engine still on stock internals?
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Engine is stock internals.
I can get forged rods for reasonable money 2gr rods fit but pistons are custom items so silly money.
The rotrex is a C30-94 which is capable of over 400 bhp.
With the bigger Supra NA injectors and charge cooler I am hoping for a very safe 280 bhp but this is in uncharted territory so we don't really know.
I have the S series gearbox so wouldn't want to push too hard.
We should be able to push much harder with a rotrex than you can with the TRD which becomes a bit of a blowtorch at high psi.
I can see no reason why these engines can't do 300bhp safely. The 1ZZ TTE turbo does over 180 from a 1.8 so the 1mz should be fine if you can keep the air cool.
Almost had that TRD until we realised it won't fit in a MK3.
Those Eaton chargers give you great boost from idle.
240 horsepower and torque minimum.
You're going to love it.
I reckon we're both going to start running into the same problems as we're at the limit of the gearbox especially if we launch the car hard. I think 300 bhp is seen as the safe limit on stock internals, I really don't want to go for a forged engine I heard Michael's 1mz did cost silly money to get forged. The trd supercharger was a very cosy fit in my car as well there was firewall cutting and engine lid adjustments needed but it's done now and I can't wait to get her back on the road. When is yours going to be finished?
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 10:54
I reckon we're both going to start running into the same problems as we're at the limit of the gearbox especially if we launch the car hard. I think 300 bhp is seen as the safe limit on stock internals, I really don't want to go for a forged engine I heard Michael's 1mz did cost silly money to get forged. The trd supercharger was a very cosy fit in my car as well there was firewall cutting and engine lid adjustments needed but it's done now and I can't wait to get her back on the road. When is yours going to be finished?
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Engine wise hopefully the same time as yours.
Pat was talking about sending them to Gary at the same time as they both run the same ECU and engine.
Michael spent loads on his but it can be done cheaper.
300 for rods 900 for pistons plus the rest of the rebuild costs.
Then you have to worry about the gearbox and I don't fancy an E153 so it's the auris box conversion and that's loads.
Not anytime soon.
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 10:54
I reckon we're both going to start running into the same problems as we're at the limit of the gearbox especially if we launch the car hard. I think 300 bhp is seen as the safe limit on stock internals, I really don't want to go for a forged engine I heard Michael's 1mz did cost silly money to get forged. The trd supercharger was a very cosy fit in my car as well there was firewall cutting and engine lid adjustments needed but it's done now and I can't wait to get her back on the road. When is yours going to be finished?
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Engine wise hopefully the same time as yours.
Pat was talking about sending them to Gary at the same time as they both run the same ECU and engine.
Michael spent loads on his but it can be done cheaper.
300 for rods 900 for pistons plus the rest of the rebuild costs.
Then you have to worry about the gearbox and I don't fancy an E153 so it's the auris box conversion and that's loads.
Not anytime soon.
I feel your pain, it all starts getting very expensive when you start chasing performance. I'm going to japshow at santa pod this summer so hopefully the gearbox won't shit itself. I'm not sure the wife will agree with a six speed box being necessary. [emoji23]
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 13:10
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 24, 2018, 12:08
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 10:54
I reckon we're both going to start running into the same problems as we're at the limit of the gearbox especially if we launch the car hard. I think 300 bhp is seen as the safe limit on stock internals, I really don't want to go for a forged engine I heard Michael's 1mz did cost silly money to get forged. The trd supercharger was a very cosy fit in my car as well there was firewall cutting and engine lid adjustments needed but it's done now and I can't wait to get her back on the road. When is yours going to be finished?
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Engine wise hopefully the same time as yours.
Pat was talking about sending them to Gary at the same time as they both run the same ECU and engine.
Michael spent loads on his but it can be done cheaper.
300 for rods 900 for pistons plus the rest of the rebuild costs.
Then you have to worry about the gearbox and I don't fancy an E153 so it's the auris box conversion and that's loads.
Not anytime soon.
I feel your pain, it all starts getting very expensive when you start chasing performance. I'm going to japshow at santa pod this summer so hopefully the gearbox won't poopoo itself. I'm not sure the wife will agree with a six speed box being necessary. [emoji23]
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You'll be fine the C series box from the MK3 handles up to 250 ft-lb the S handles loads more.
What sort of power are you looking to make? Stock 4 psi pulley?
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 13:10
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 24, 2018, 12:08
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 10:54
I reckon we're both going to start running into the same problems as we're at the limit of the gearbox especially if we launch the car hard. I think 300 bhp is seen as the safe limit on stock internals, I really don't want to go for a forged engine I heard Michael's 1mz did cost silly money to get forged. The trd supercharger was a very cosy fit in my car as well there was firewall cutting and engine lid adjustments needed but it's done now and I can't wait to get her back on the road. When is yours going to be finished?
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Engine wise hopefully the same time as yours.
Pat was talking about sending them to Gary at the same time as they both run the same ECU and engine.
Michael spent loads on his but it can be done cheaper.
300 for rods 900 for pistons plus the rest of the rebuild costs.
Then you have to worry about the gearbox and I don't fancy an E153 so it's the auris box conversion and that's loads.
Not anytime soon.
I feel your pain, it all starts getting very expensive when you start chasing performance. I'm going to japshow at santa pod this summer so hopefully the gearbox won't poopoo itself. I'm not sure the wife will agree with a six speed box being necessary. [emoji23]
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You'll be fine the C series box from the MK3 handles up to 250 ft-lb the S handles loads more.
What sort of power are you looking to make? Stock 4 psi pulley?
I've got a stock s54 box from the na mk2 and the charger is running a 5.5psi pulley as that's about as far as you can go before it starts getting too hot. She should be making around 250hp but I need to rebuild the exhaust pipes as I think they'll be a big restriction
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 10:54
I reckon we're both going to start running into the same problems as we're at the limit of the gearbox especially if we launch the car hard. I think 300 bhp is seen as the safe limit on stock internals, I really don't want to go for a forged engine I heard Michael's 1mz did cost silly money to get forged. The trd supercharger was a very cosy fit in my car as well there was firewall cutting and engine lid adjustments needed but it's done now and I can't wait to get her back on the road. When is yours going to be finished?
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Engine wise hopefully the same time as yours.
Pat was talking about sending them to Gary at the same time as they both run the same ECU and engine.
Michael spent loads on his but it can be done cheaper.
300 for rods 900 for pistons plus the rest of the rebuild costs.
Then you have to worry about the gearbox and I don't fancy an E153 so it's the auris box conversion and that's loads.
Not anytime soon.
I feel your pain, it all starts getting very expensive when you start chasing performance. I'm going to japshow at santa pod this summer so hopefully the gearbox won't poopoo itself. I'm not sure the wife will agree with a six speed box being necessary. [emoji23]
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You'll be fine the C series box from the MK3 handles up to 250 ft-lb the S handles loads more.
What sort of power are you looking to make? Stock 4 psi pulley?
I've got a stock s54 box from the na mk2 and the charger is running a 5.5psi pulley as that's about as far as you can go before it starts getting too hot. She should be making around 250hp but I need to rebuild the exhaust pipes as I think they'll be a big restriction
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Funnily enough Pat just put a TTE exhaust on mine and I think that it will be a choke point next year I will be taking it off if that is the case.
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 10:54
I reckon we're both going to start running into the same problems as we're at the limit of the gearbox especially if we launch the car hard. I think 300 bhp is seen as the safe limit on stock internals, I really don't want to go for a forged engine I heard Michael's 1mz did cost silly money to get forged. The trd supercharger was a very cosy fit in my car as well there was firewall cutting and engine lid adjustments needed but it's done now and I can't wait to get her back on the road. When is yours going to be finished?
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Engine wise hopefully the same time as yours.
Pat was talking about sending them to Gary at the same time as they both run the same ECU and engine.
Michael spent loads on his but it can be done cheaper.
300 for rods 900 for pistons plus the rest of the rebuild costs.
Then you have to worry about the gearbox and I don't fancy an E153 so it's the auris box conversion and that's loads.
Not anytime soon.
I feel your pain, it all starts getting very expensive when you start chasing performance. I'm going to japshow at santa pod this summer so hopefully the gearbox won't poopoo itself. I'm not sure the wife will agree with a six speed box being necessary. [emoji23]
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You'll be fine the C series box from the MK3 handles up to 250 ft-lb the S handles loads more.
What sort of power are you looking to make? Stock 4 psi pulley?
I've got a stock s54 box from the na mk2 and the charger is running a 5.5psi pulley as that's about as far as you can go before it starts getting too hot. She should be making around 250hp but I need to rebuild the exhaust pipes as I think they'll be a big restriction
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Would additional gearbox cooling increase the tolerance to stress?
Will see how much torque is being made but they are proven to survive when mated to a 2gr which makes 260 ft-lb minimum.
It's something to look into if i start having problems.
I know the E153 has an oil cooler.
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Will see how much torque is being made but they are proven to survive when mated to a 2gr which makes 260 ft-lb minimum.
It's something to look into if i start having problems.
I know the E153 has an oil cooler.
The s54 should last if you don't rough it up too much as it's the shock of hard launches that'll make it poopoo itself
Edited to add the censoring made me laugh [emoji23][emoji23]
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 24, 2018, 21:17
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 24, 2018, 18:52
Will see how much torque is being made but they are proven to survive when mated to a 2gr which makes 260 ft-lb minimum.
It's something to look into if i start having problems.
I know the E153 has an oil cooler.
The s54 should last if you don't rough it up too much as it's the shock of hard launches that'll make it poopoo itself
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I put the mods up to that ages ago.
Puts the swear filter to proper use.
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I put the mods up to that ages ago.
Puts the swear filter to proper use.
One of your finer contributions I must admit @1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268)
@shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356)
Notifications work
Well done
Would have posted this yesterday but the forum was down most of the day.
Getting there now Dyno next week.
Nom nom nom [emoji3]
Not much to report.
Waiting for some hoses.
The weather of late won't have helped there.
Hopefully by the end of the week.
Car is now mechanically complete.
We are just short on some traction fluid that is required for the rotrex to run.
We are running are larger oil cooler than is usual and therefore didn't have enough.
If this arrives tomorrow as promised by the supplier then she should go to be mapped on Friday.
Excitement must be building now?!
I hope the mapping happens Friday. :)
Let's all cross fingers and toes for the fluid to arrive and the car to be mapped
:D
Buzzin
Thanks guys.
It's taken much longer than I expected to get this far.
Weather hasn't helped neither has the fact that it hasn't been done before.
Hopefully mapped Friday and making the power I expect.
Looking forward to hearing about it
I think we should arrange for a day out to go watch the mapping.... Film it and then put it on you tube...
Quote from: jvanzyl on March 15, 2018, 10:37
I think we should arrange for a day out to go watch the mapping.... Film it and then put it on you tube...
And watch Scott cry if he doesnt get the numbers he wants?
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Quote from: jvanzyl on March 15, 2018, 10:37
I think we should arrange for a day out to go watch the mapping.... Film it and then put it on you tube...
And watch Scott fly past me when he gets the numbers he wants?
Fixed that for you.
Probably not going to the Dyno tomorrow unless DHL sort themselves out.
If the KFC debacle wasn't enough.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
Quote from: wotugonado on March 15, 2018, 21:49
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
What he ^^^^^^ said with a few more oooooooooooooo for extra effect.
I am willing Bee6 to completion.
I predict this will turn out to be flipping excellent. I am torn though, cos I will want a ride in it and I know that is going to make things expensive for me! Lol
It could be expensive for more than one of us after a passenger ride.
:D :D :D
Oil has arrived but it is a bit late so we will have to see if we can get it to the Dyno.
Saw the video on Facebook of it running.
I don't envy you for any maintenance work in the future. That is one very very full engine bay
Quote from: shnazzle on March 16, 2018, 11:34
Saw the video on Facebook of it running.
I don't envy you for any maintenance work in the future. That is one very very full engine bay
That's why you get other people to do the work.
Dyno Wednesday now which actually suite me tbh.
The weather this weekend is going to be shocking.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) Dyno wednesday... it least you now have a firm date with no other delays
Quote from: shnazzle on March 16, 2018, 11:34
Saw the video on Facebook of it running.
I don't envy you for any maintenance work in the future. That is one very very full engine bay
I'm sure there will still be room for a couple of beers!
(As in the Professor's jar)
https://youtu.be/9rGe16qQGsM
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) about flipping time!! Was worth the wait.
I can see you enjoying those sounds for quite a long time. :D
I am glad you have something to show for all your cash and patience. :D
Looks great. Can't wait to see it in the flesh
Fly wheel numbers @ 6psi.
@ 7 psi she was making these sort of numbers at the wheels but was deemed unsafe. Better boost control more fuel and a standalone ECU would see over 300bhp.
TORQUE IS KING
Yep.
Top stuff, will be a beast out of the corners!
To put the torque difference in perspective between this & a 2zz Rotrex - @ 3-4k the 2zz is 160-180lbft, whereas the 1mz is laying down 240-260lbft 8)
Quote from: J03 on March 20, 2018, 16:40
Top stuff, will be a beast out of the corners!
To put the torque difference in perspective between this & a 2zz Rotrex - @ 3-4k the 2zz is 160-180lbft, whereas the 1mz is laying down 240-260lbft 8)
But you are making 300 bhp or more with a 2zz rotrex. 350 is the most I have seen.
I would push a stock 1mz to 300 ft-lb no further.
Pistons and rods aren't as strong as 2zz.
That's a nice curve
Quote from: ayresyboy on March 20, 2018, 17:15
That's a nice curve
Comes free with all rotrex superchargers.
Thank mate.
Print out isn't the best but I think I am going to say 262 BHP and 265 ft-lb.
Very nice numbers indeed! I wouldn't want more personally
Very nice Scott, that will be an awesome drive!
It's good to torque !
Awesome you got there in the end what a beast
Scott
I take it you have reset your fuelly numbers, or is that correct, actually no miles to a gallon. :D
So pleased for you. Well played. Tick tock.
Scott
From the shoutbox I understand you were not there. Correct?
I don't suppose, there is any footage of it on the rollers by any chance?
I have a box of kleenx on standby if there is.
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Scott
From the shoutbox I understand you were not there. Correct?
I don't suppose, there is any footage of it on the rollers by any chance?
I have a box of kleenx on standby if there is.
Sorry mate no there isn't any footage.
You're the second person to ask.
Footage or it didnt happen. ;) ;)
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Footage or it didnt happen. ;) ;)
Far enough it didn't happen.
No point in you taking her out for a spin then. :P
Touche ;)
nice numbers
for comparison
2 great graphs.
Shows you in no uncertain terms how the 1mz is all torque and the 2zz is all top end power.
Scotte is your gearbox going to hold that?
And to be the pedantic nerd, don't forget different gear ratios between 2zz & 1mz unless using the same box, which will give the 2zz a mechanical advantage lessoning the torque difference to the wheels. Not by alot and probably mitigated by less gear changes in the 1mz with longer gearing. Just food for thought. No real argument against that graph though...
Scott's box should be fine. It isn't the stock gearbox, it is a modified S54 box from a Mk2. Not sure of the ratios in that actual box, but S54s tend to be shorter geared than the stock Roadster box, stronger too, from what I have read over the years. Certainly a tough box in the V6 that I had, some years ago. The torque curve is nice and smooth too, with no spikes, so that aids the mechanical sympathy.
As to driving on the road, it should be tremendous fun, with that spread of torque. Driveability will be first class. Couple that with a soundtrack, no 4 pot can match, and its pretty much spot on!
Quote from: MrT on March 21, 2018, 10:56
Scotte is your gearbox going to hold that?
And to be the pedantic nerd, don't forget different gear ratios between 2zz & 1mz unless using the same box, which will give the 2zz a mechanical advantage lessoning the torque difference to the wheels. Not by alot and probably mitigated by less gear changes in the 1mz with longer gearing. Just food for thought. No real argument against that graph though...
S series 5 speed no problem proven to cope with 3sgte and 2grfe engines if you treat them with respect.
No idea about gear ratios what I do know is that a stock 1mz makes more torque at idle than a 2zz does at peak.
No replacement for displacement.
The joy of a 2zz is that it will take a bar of boost on stock internals.
Not something a 1zz or 1mz can dream of.
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Scott
From the shoutbox I understand you were not there. Correct?
I don't suppose, there is any footage of it on the rollers by any chance?
I have a box of kleenx on standby if there is.
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Quote from: 1979scotte on March 21, 2018, 07:13
2 great graphs.
Shows you in no uncertain terms how the 1mz is all torque and the 2zz is all top end power.
Loving this thread. What a beast !!
Can't wait to hear it out on a run.
I need to visit the forum more.
I've been missing out on this build. I'll come and have a look when your free after Easter. We can do a video so people can hear it properly
Home.
It's bloody quick.
Too quick for the road if I am honest.
Makes some interesting noises.
And the rear dampers need firming up because she squats down like an American muscle car under WOT.
Fantastic! How big is your grin right now??
Excellent news mate.
You will be able to get past all the diesel zafiras with ease now!
Well done Scotte, it sounds like it was certainly worth the wait, awesome.
Will have to meet up 1 day scott at a suitable venue with my race logic. How about snetterton 10th april!?
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 22, 2018, 01:32
Will have to meet up 1 day scott at a suitable venue with my race logic. How about snetterton 10th april!?
Would love to meet up and swap rotrex notes.
Vbox run would be nice.
Snetterton i don't think mate. Not a track car. Would need some road miles under my belt anyway.
Oh and I am totally boracic lint.
Do you have a printout of the dyno graph? Interested to see how the torque curve looks :)
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 20, 2018, 16:10
Fly wheel numbers @ 6psi.
@ 7 psi she was making these sort of numbers at the wheels but was deemed unsafe. Better boost control more fuel and a standalone ECU would see over 300bhp.
See graph
Quote from: m1tch on March 22, 2018, 07:47
Do you have a printout of the dyno graph? Interested to see how the torque curve looks :)
Printout on page 21 mate.
Download it so it's easier to read if your on a tablet or phone.
Pleased it's worked out for you Scotte, just beware you don't get corrupted with all that Power ;)
Stay safe and enjoy Scotte.
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Quote from: Joesson on March 22, 2018, 10:29
Pleased it's worked out for you Scotte, just beware you don't get corrupted with all that Power ;)
Absolutelty......
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Quote from: Joesson on March 22, 2018, 10:29
Pleased it's worked out for you Scotte, just beware you don't get corrupted with all that Power ;)
Absolutelty......
You guys just don't get it.
It not about power it's about TORQUE!
;)
Quote from: Joesson on March 22, 2018, 10:29
Pleased it's worked out for you Scotte, just beware you don't get corrupted with all that Power ;)
With great power comes great responsibility.........
to beat specific Porsche owners into submission apparently.
With you it's always been about TALK, now you have the equipment to back it up!
<runs>
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Quote from: Joesson on March 22, 2018, 10:29
Pleased it's worked out for you Scotte, just beware you don't get corrupted with all that Power ;)
With great power comes great responsibility.........
to beat specific Porsche owners into submission apparently.
Dig acknowledged, you can polish a turd and even rub it with glitter but its still a turd. :D
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Quote from: wotugonado on March 22, 2018, 12:05
Quote from: Joesson on March 22, 2018, 10:29
Pleased it's worked out for you Scotte, just beware you don't get corrupted with all that Power ;)
With great power comes great responsibility.........
to beat specific Porsche owners into submission apparently.
Dig acknowledged, you can polish a turd and even rub it with glitter but its still a turd. :D
:) Now now i didn't name names. Thought it was just the road where porsche owners think its all
about them, apparently not :-)
Hehe think you confused Porsche with BMW :D
Can imagine Scotte's MR2 being a real handful at times. How long before a bbk is suggested haha
:) Will the expensive fettling never end
Quote from: wotugonado on March 22, 2018, 17:08
:) Will the expensive fettling never end
Yes.
Eventually we all die.
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Quote from: wotugonado on March 22, 2018, 17:08
:) Will the expensive fettling never end
Yes.
Eventually we all die.
You could add a codicil to your will???? 8)
Glad to see you've got it back on the road, you're making a little bit more power than mine (242hp and 232ft/lbs) but I'm planning on getting the exhaust y pipe redone and water meth injection so I should catch up [emoji12]. Be sure to get yourself over to a Kent run soon I'm looking forward to having a good look at this beast
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Glad to see you've got it back on the road, you're making a little bit more power than mine (242hp and 232ft/lbs) but I'm planning on getting the exhaust y pipe redone and water meth injection so I should catch up [emoji12]. Be sure to get yourself over to a Kent run soon I'm looking forward to having a good look at this beast
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Best of luck mate.
Do you really want more grunt?
240 in a MK1 will be eating MK2 turbos no problem.
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on March 22, 2018, 20:37
Glad to see you've got it back on the road, you're making a little bit more power than mine (242hp and 232ft/lbs) but I'm planning on getting the exhaust y pipe redone and water meth injection so I should catch up [emoji12]. Be sure to get yourself over to a Kent run soon I'm looking forward to having a good look at this beast
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Best of luck mate.
Do you really want more grunt?
240 in a MK1 will be eating MK2 turbos no problem.
I know what you mean especially with a car that has no driver aids and stock sized brakes, but I just want to make it as good as it can be without adding more boost
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Quote from: 1979scotte on March 21, 2018, 20:42
Home.
It's bloody quick.
Too quick for the road if I am honest.
Makes some interesting noises.
And the rear dampers need firming up because she squats down like an American muscle car under WOT.
Can you turn the boost down for everyday use / wet road conditions ?
Quote from: chasmundo on March 23, 2018, 12:34
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 21, 2018, 20:42
Home.
It's bloody quick.
Too quick for the road if I am honest.
Makes some interesting noises.
And the rear dampers need firming up because she squats down like an American muscle car under WOT.
Can you turn the boost down for everyday use / wet road conditions ?
On Angelo's it's a definite no.
TRD blower only changes pressure via a pulley.
On mine ATM it's practically a no. I could manually turn the boost down but it's a pain.
If I had electronic boost control it would be very simple to lower the boost.
I am looking into having my DET3 PIGGYBACK control it. Should be possible with a solenoid.
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Home.
It's bloody quick.
Too quick for the road if I am honest.
Makes some interesting noises.
And the rear dampers need firming up because she squats down like an American muscle car under WOT.
Can you turn the boost down for everyday use / wet road conditions ?
On Angelo's it's a definite no.
TRD blower only changes pressure via a pulley.
On mine ATM it's practically a no. I could manually turn the boost down but it's a pain.
If I had electronic boost control it would be very simple to lower the boost.
I am looking into having my DET3 PIGGYBACK control it. Should be possible with a solenoid.
Well I have bought a boost controller for the turbo conversion and Patrick is going to see if he can make it work with the stock ECU.
I am just going for a mild upgrade in torque to cure the flatish mid range 3000-6000rpms. Hopefully reaching 180-190bhp ...Nothing like yours. That much power would scare me silly, but each to their own and yours is as unique as they come...a yellow rocket ship.
If he can't get the ecu to work, I'll also have to go down the det3 and piggyback route. I need it to be a fun and reliable as it will be my daily car ...rain, shine or snow!!
My wallet is feeling the pain in the pursuit of madness [emoji22]
angpozzuto - I think I might poo myself in a mk1 with that much power and stock brakes. I already have to stand on my brakes hard in my standard mk1 when I am hammering it.
Maybe the saying "with great power comes great brakes" is more applicable than ever in a mk1. At least the mk3 brakes feel as good as a modern car.
Enjoy and be safe
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My wallet is feeling the pain in the pursuit of madness [emoji22]
I understand your pain but I've got to say that for the money it's silly not going for a Det3.
I was going to try and use the stock 1mz ECU and go low boost but for 150 quid why not. It's safer and makes more power.
Got to say that if you want it to be your daily driver and reliable doing it on a really tight budget might not be advisable.
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Quote from: 1979scotte on March 21, 2018, 20:42
My wallet is feeling the pain in the pursuit of madness [emoji22]
I understand your pain but I've got to say that for the money it's silly not going for a Det3.
I was going to try and use the stock 1mz ECU and go low boost but for 150 quid why not. It's safer and makes more power.
Got to say that if you want it to be your daily driver and reliable doing it on a really tight budget might not be advisable.
I am just dreading Patricks call telling me just that !!
I am slowly resigning myself to det3 + 2zz injectors....its nearly pay day
Can you send me a link to the injectors you bought for £150 in case I get that call from Patrick.
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Quote from: 1979scotte on March 21, 2018, 20:42
Home.
It's bloody quick.
Too quick for the road if I am honest.
Makes some interesting noises.
And the rear dampers need firming up because she squats down like an American muscle car under WOT.
I've thought that a few times about vechicles I owned, usually just after purchasing, or adding some extra ponies. Its a feeling that always went away!
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Quote from: 1979scotte on March 21, 2018, 20:42
Home.
It's bloody quick.
Too quick for the road if I am honest.
Makes some interesting noises.
And the rear dampers need firming up because she squats down like an American muscle car under WOT.
I've thought that a few times about vechicles I owned, usually just after purchasing, or adding some extra ponies. Its a feeling that always went away!
Pretty sure the feeling will go away however the Speedo and the smell of the breaks pads won't.
Not had it up to 6 psi since the day I bought it home. 5.05 psi just now.
Love the noise. Not the V6 the Rotrex. It just sounds so futuristic.
Quote from: chasmundo on March 23, 2018, 17:49
angpozzuto - I think I might poo myself in a mk1 with that much power and stock brakes. I already have to stand on my brakes hard in my standard mk1 when I am hammering it.
Maybe the saying "with great power comes great brakes" is more applicable than ever in a mk1. At least the mk3 brakes feel as good as a modern car.
Enjoy and be safe
I don't think bigger brakes will make a huge difference, if I can lock up my current tyres braking force isn't the issue grip is the problem (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180323/96dfca54163ea06dc9f55d8bad38b13f.jpg)
This is what happens when I had to stand on my brakes on an airfield day, I went from 100mph down to 30mph and scrubbed 4mm of rubber off them
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:'(
As they are not on the car, is it safe to say they are basicallly f :( :( ked
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:'(
As they are not on the car, is it safe to say they are basicallly f :( :( ked
Yeah they had to go, it was like driving on 50 pence coins the vibration was ridiculous [emoji23]
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on March 23, 2018, 22:33
Quote from: chasmundo on March 23, 2018, 17:49
angpozzuto - I think I might poo myself in a mk1 with that much power and stock brakes. I already have to stand on my brakes hard in my standard mk1 when I am hammering it.
Maybe the saying "with great power comes great brakes" is more applicable than ever in a mk1. At least the mk3 brakes feel as good as a modern car.
Enjoy and be safe
I don't think bigger brakes will make a huge difference, if I can lock up my current tyres braking force isn't the issue grip is the problem (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180323/96dfca54163ea06dc9f55d8bad38b13f.jpg)
This is what happens when I had to stand on my brakes on an airfield day, I went from 100mph down to 30mph and scrubbed 4mm of rubber off them
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What are they? AD08R? Really like them on the road never taken mine on track.
I am thinking nankang nsr2 or federal 595rsr if I can find the right sizes.
If not Toyo R888.
Also what pads are you using?
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on March 23, 2018, 22:33
Quote from: chasmundo on March 23, 2018, 17:49
angpozzuto - I think I might poo myself in a mk1 with that much power and stock brakes. I already have to stand on my brakes hard in my standard mk1 when I am hammering it.
Maybe the saying "with great power comes great brakes" is more applicable than ever in a mk1. At least the mk3 brakes feel as good as a modern car.
Enjoy and be safe
I don't think bigger brakes will make a huge difference, if I can lock up my current tyres braking force isn't the issue grip is the problem (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180323/96dfca54163ea06dc9f55d8bad38b13f.jpg)
This is what happens when I had to stand on my brakes on an airfield day, I went from 100mph down to 30mph and scrubbed 4mm of rubber off them
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What are they? AD08R? Really like them on the road never taken mine on track.
I am thinking nankang nsr2 or federal 595rsr if I can find the right sizes.
If not Toyo R888.
Yeah they're ad08r, I've never taken them on a proper track day I've just done a few airfield days at north Weald on them and they are awesome. What tyres and sizes are you running on yours?
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Quote from: 1979scotte on March 23, 2018, 23:02
Quote from: Angpozzuto on March 23, 2018, 22:33
Quote from: chasmundo on March 23, 2018, 17:49
angpozzuto - I think I might poo myself in a mk1 with that much power and stock brakes. I already have to stand on my brakes hard in my standard mk1 when I am hammering it.
Maybe the saying "with great power comes great brakes" is more applicable than ever in a mk1. At least the mk3 brakes feel as good as a modern car.
Enjoy and be safe
I don't think bigger brakes will make a huge difference, if I can lock up my current tyres braking force isn't the issue grip is the problem
This is what happens when I had to stand on my brakes on an airfield day, I went from 100mph down to 30mph and scrubbed 4mm of rubber off them
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What are they? AD08R? Really like them on the road never taken mine on track.
I am thinking nankang nsr2 or federal 595rsr if I can find the right sizes.
If not Toyo R888.
Yeah they're ad08r, I've never taken them on a proper track day I've just done a few airfield days at north Weald on them and they are awesome. What tyres and sizes are you running on yours?
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I am on PFL stock MK3 sizes 15" 185 front 205 rear AD08R.
I am running 195 and 225 on mine, cant help but think you should be too!
If you went to FL 16" rear wheel you may get less tyre "squat" under acceleration?
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:'(
As they are not on the car, is it safe to say they are basicallly f :( :( ked
Yeah they had to go, it was like driving on 50 pence coins the vibration was ridiculous [emoji23]
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Didn't the ABS work?
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:'(
As they are not on the car, is it safe to say they are basicallly f :( :( ked
Yeah they had to go, it was like driving on 50 pence coins the vibration was ridiculous [emoji23]
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Didn't the ABS work?
No ABS on Mk1's
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:'(
As they are not on the car, is it safe to say they are basicallly f :( :( ked
Yeah they had to go, it was like driving on 50 pence coins the vibration was ridiculous [emoji23]
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Didn't the ABS work?
No ABS on Mk1's
Ah, missed that bit [emoji847]
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:'(
As they are not on the car, is it safe to say they are basicallly f :( :( ked
Yeah they had to go, it was like driving on 50 pence coins the vibration was ridiculous [emoji23]
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Didn't the ABS work?
No ABS on Mk1's
Ah, missed that bit [emoji847]
Easily done.
For future reference Angelo's car is a MK1 with a 1mz V6 swap and TRD SUPERCHARGER.
Quote from: Topdownman on March 24, 2018, 08:16
I am running 195 and 225 on mine, cant help but think you should be too!
If you went to FL 16" rear wheel you may get less tyre "squat" under acceleration?
It wasn't the tyres it was the dampers they're in a very soft setting.
I have FL wheels in the loft but I will wear out these tyres first.
Even then not positive I will go to FL wheels so much more playful on the smaller ones.
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Quote from: Topdownman on March 24, 2018, 08:16
I am running 195 and 225 on mine, cant help but think you should be too!
If you went to FL 16" rear wheel you may get less tyre "squat" under acceleration?
It wasn't the tyres it was the dampers they're in a very soft setting.
I have FL wheels in the loft but I will wear out these tyres first.
Even then not positive I will go to FL wheels so much more playful on the smaller ones.
there's a very fine line between playful and facing the wrong way at a roundabout [emoji50][emoji90][emoji90]
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on March 24, 2018, 14:31
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 24, 2018, 13:28
Quote from: Topdownman on March 24, 2018, 08:16
I am running 195 and 225 on mine, cant help but think you should be too!
If you went to FL 16" rear wheel you may get less tyre "squat" under acceleration?
It wasn't the tyres it was the dampers they're in a very soft setting.
I have FL wheels in the loft but I will wear out these tyres first.
Even then not positive I will go to FL wheels so much more playful on the smaller ones.
there's a very fine line between playful and facing the wrong way at a roundabout [emoji50][emoji90][emoji90]
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Been there done that.
Was on old tyres with fresh coilovers in my MK3 turbo.
Fitted at a mates place first roundabout I came across.
It obviously went straight in for a full 4 wheel alignment asap.
As well as new tyres.
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 23, 2018, 22:04
Quote from: MR TWO on March 23, 2018, 21:54
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 21, 2018, 20:42
Home.
It's bloody quick.
Too quick for the road if I am honest.
Makes some interesting noises.
And the rear dampers need firming up because she squats down like an American muscle car under WOT.
I've thought that a few times about vechicles I owned, usually just after purchasing, or adding some extra ponies. Its a feeling that always went away!
Pretty sure the feeling will go away however the Speedo and the smell of the breaks pads won't.
Not had it up to 6 psi since the day I bought it home. 5.05 psi just now.
Love the noise. Not the V6 the Rotrex. It just sounds so futuristic.
I can't wait to hear it myself!
Had a bad night last night so got up around 4am.
Started trawling through the manual of my ECUmaster Det3 piggyback.
Wanted to investigate some of the advanced features.
First off fuel implant mode. This is where it acts more like a standalone and takes full control of the injectors stopping the stock ECU interfering.
After a quick read realised that it's a bit beyond my meagre capabilities and moved on to looking into boost control.
And this bit was disappointing. On a 6 cylinder application it can't fully control the injectors and a boost solenoid. One or the other. On 4 cylinders it would be fine.
So I am now thinking try and get it take full control of the injectors and buy a separate electronic boost controller. Have been looking at the gizzmo icb-r. It will reference rpm against boost so you taper it off at high rpm like SP did in their turbo kits.
I was being sent down the route of apexi avcr by another outfit. Apparently still one of the best ones.
By gear, by speed, tail off, different profiles etc etc.
As they're old you may be able to pick one up affordably.
Quote from: shnazzle on March 26, 2018, 12:01
I was being sent down the route of apexi avcr by another outfit. Apparently still one of the best ones.
By gear, by speed, tail off, different profiles etc etc.
As they're old you may be able to pick one up affordably.
Brand new they are so expensive. Didn't think about a pre loved unit.
Quote from: shnazzle on March 26, 2018, 12:01
I was being sent down the route of apexi avcr by another outfit. Apparently still one of the best ones.
By gear, by speed, tail off, different profiles etc etc.
As they're old you may be able to pick one up affordably.
I had an AVCR in my RX7, good bit of kit as it learns boost by gear and also had a 'scramble boost' option so you can set a base level of boost but then press a button and it would then up the solenoid duty/boost for a set period of time.
This is the GFB one i had
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=view&n=531&p=224882&d=124&c=4&l=2&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Boost%20Control%20&%20Electronics&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9Mz0uv-J2gIV7zLTCh0IqgjDEAQYASABEgK49PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Might car mods have a installation and testing video on it ;)
Quote from: tomaky on March 26, 2018, 13:33
This is the GFB one i had
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=view&n=531&p=224882&d=124&c=4&l=2&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Boost%20Control%20&%20Electronics&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9Mz0uv-J2gIV7zLTCh0IqgjDEAQYASABEgK49PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Might car mods have a installation and testing video on it ;)
Twas the first one I considered.
It doesn't reference rpm so it just a constant boost level.
I would like to have say 7.5 @ 4500rpm then drop down to 7 or whatever is deemed safe close to max rpm.
Fair enough, i had the gen 2 is the gen 3 any better?
Quote from: tomaky on March 27, 2018, 07:47
Fair enough, i had the gen 2 is the gen 3 any better?
Think that just incorporates EGT which I have if I want it.
48L fuel tank = 10.6 gallons at 22 mpg = not that much.
Hopefully get up to 30 mpg on the motorway today.
Unlikely but a man can dream.
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2018, 08:59
48L fuel tank = 10.6 gallons at 22 mpg = not that much.
Hopefully get up to 30 mpg on the motorway today.
Unlikely but a man can dream.
22mpg traveling at light speed with a big smile
May get 30mpg if you slow down to 65mph.
Hopefully not too much bank holiday traffic for you.
Enjoy
Ive got 14 mpg this week ha
Quote from: tomaky on March 30, 2018, 09:13
Ive got 14 mpg this week ha
You must have a hole in the petrol tank.
14mpg !!
That does happen, in my case on a '56 Beetle though.
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2018, 08:59
48L fuel tank = 10.6 gallons at 22 mpg = not that much.
Hopefully get up to 30 mpg on the motorway today.
Unlikely but a man can dream.
You keep driving & dreaming, though not at the same time.
Quote from: Joesson on March 30, 2018, 12:09
That does happen, in my case on a '56 Beetle though.
Great taste '56 beetle
One of my regrets not owning a classic beetle with uprated engine
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Quote from: tomaky on March 30, 2018, 09:13
Ive got 14 mpg this week ha
You must have a hole in the petrol tank.
14mpg !!
Ha its too and from work its only about a mile but its stop start.
3.4 litre and a new exhaust doesn't help either ha
Quote from: tomaky on March 30, 2018, 15:21
Ha its too and from work its only about a mile but its stop start.
3.4 litre and a heavy right foot to make the new exhaust 'bwaaaarp' doesn't help either ha
Fixed that for you mate. :D
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2018, 08:59
48L fuel tank = 10.6 gallons at 22 mpg = not that much.
Hopefully get up to 30 mpg on the motorway today.
Unlikely but a man can dream.
That's going to take some careful route planning, maybe we should incorporate an annual fuel spend into the numb bum award too?[emoji23]
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The cars alot of fun tehe
Quote from: MR TWO on March 30, 2018, 12:20
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2018, 08:59
48L fuel tank = 10.6 gallons at 22 mpg = not that much.
Hopefully get up to 30 mpg on the motorway today.
Unlikely but a man can dream.
You keep driving & dreaming, though not at the same time.
Check my fuelly.
Got over 29mpg on the motorway.
cannot grumble at that
Quote from: Ardent on March 31, 2018, 21:49
cannot grumble at that
No quite happy with that.
Ref Toms 14mpg waking the sleeping beast for a one mile journey couldn't you go the long way there? expect a letter from the Porkie Cruelty Officer! greybeardgt
Quote from: greybeardgt on April 2, 2018, 15:17
Ref Toms 14mpg waking the sleeping beast for a one mile journey couldn't you go the long way there? expect a letter from the Porkie Cruelty Officer! greybeardgt
That would mean the young lad would have to leave his sleeping pit early doors.
You know what kids are like.
Ordered Gizzmo IBC R
More money than I should spend but it comes with some neat features and a quality MAC solenoid.
https://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/gizzmo-ibc-r-version-2-slim-electronic-boost-controller-1517-p.asp
Quote from: greybeardgt on April 2, 2018, 15:17
Ref Toms 14mpg waking the sleeping beast for a one mile journey couldn't you go the long way there? expect a letter from the Porkie Cruelty Officer! greybeardgt
There isn't really a long way, I live on a island that's about a mile long and my office is at the end of the bridge :( probably takes 3 miles to get her warm as well.
Quote from: tomaky on April 3, 2018, 07:46
Quote from: greybeardgt on April 2, 2018, 15:17
Ref Toms 14mpg waking the sleeping beast for a one mile journey couldn't you go the long way there? expect a letter from the Porkie Cruelty Officer! greybeardgt
There isn't really a long way, I live on a island that's about a mile long and my office is at the end of the bridge :( probably takes 3 miles to get her warm as well.
As previously discussed you need to swallow your pride and buy a shite heap daily.
Ive got one parked on the drive haha
Dear Tom OMG its worse than I thought Peel Island surrounded by the saltiest water in the Irish Sea and Tom with Porkie Brake pipes not much better than their exhaust clamps (never mind the flanges on the wheel bolts) best bet get some sheep fat and smother them in it (bit messy but you have never seen a rusty sheep) cheers greybeard.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 2, 2018, 21:20
Ordered Gizzmo IBC R
More money than I should spend but it comes with some neat features and a quality MAC solenoid.
https://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/gizzmo-ibc-r-version-2-slim-electronic-boost-controller-1517-p.asp
Just got an email.
Boost controller no longer made none in stock so it's back to the drawing board.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 3, 2018, 17:19
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 2, 2018, 21:20
Ordered Gizzmo IBC R
More money than I should spend but it comes with some neat features and a quality MAC solenoid.
https://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/gizzmo-ibc-r-version-2-slim-electronic-boost-controller-1517-p.asp
Just got an email.
Boost controller no longer made none in stock so it's back to the drawing board.
I thought something might be amiss as the link brought to a page which says the product no longer available.
Quote from: greybeardgt on April 3, 2018, 15:31
Dear Tom OMG its worse than I thought Peel Island surrounded by the saltiest water in the Irish Sea and Tom with Porkie Brake pipes not much better than their exhaust clamps (never mind the flanges on the wheel bolts) best bet get some sheep fat and smother them in it (bit messy but you have never seen a rusty sheep) cheers greybeard.
Hehe the sheds 1 of my mr2's haha
Quote from: MR TWO on April 3, 2018, 18:01
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 3, 2018, 17:19
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 2, 2018, 21:20
Ordered Gizzmo IBC R
More money than I should spend but it comes with some neat features and a quality MAC solenoid.
https://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/gizzmo-ibc-r-version-2-slim-electronic-boost-controller-1517-p.asp
Just got an email.
Boost controller no longer made none in stock so it's back to the drawing board.
I thought something might be amiss as the link brought to a page which says the product no longer available.
Didn't say that when I ordered it.
Obviously hadn't updated their site until I ordered.
Anyway tired of mucking about so ordered the basic version of the same make.
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=282871351058&category=107063&pm=1&ds=0&t=1522211376000&ver=0&cspheader=1
Doesn't reference against rpm but it's works out 70 quid cheaper so it will do.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 3, 2018, 21:10
Quote from: MR TWO on April 3, 2018, 18:01
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 3, 2018, 17:19
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 2, 2018, 21:20
Ordered Gizzmo IBC R
More money than I should spend but it comes with some neat features and a quality MAC solenoid.
https://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/gizzmo-ibc-r-version-2-slim-electronic-boost-controller-1517-p.asp
Just got an email.
Boost controller no longer made none in stock so it's back to the drawing board.
I thought something might be amiss as the link brought to a page which says the product no longer available.
Didn't say that when I ordered it.
Obviously hadn't updated their site until I ordered.
Anyway tired of mucking about so ordered the basic version of the same make.
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=282871351058&category=107063&pm=1&ds=0&t=1522211376000&ver=0&cspheader=1
Doesn't reference against rpm but it's works out 70 quid cheaper so it will do.
Sounds like the basic saving of £70 quid will be perfect!
Boost controller arrived.
Filled her up again.
25mpg this is mixed urban motorway b road thrash tank.
Is Patrick installing it already?
Quote from: shnazzle on April 5, 2018, 16:31
Is Patrick installing it already?
I wish the car is here.
Just got it sent to him.
Not going to fit it myself.
Hows this gizmo thing work with the rotrex?. Am feeling left out!
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on April 5, 2018, 22:29
Hows this gizmo thing work with the rotrex?. Am feeling left out!
You don't need one.
First off your link can be setup to control boost.
Second the rotrex probably doesn't make enough boost to kill a 2zz.
The rods on the 1mz aren't much bigger than 1zz and the pistons are week.
Thirdly need to keep bellow 7 psi or she starts to knock. Not enough injector control will the way the piggyback is setup currently.
I know of a Dastek piggyback with injector overdrive and boost control modules that will come on the market soon :)
Quote from: shnazzle on April 6, 2018, 08:56
I know of a Dastek piggyback with injector overdrive and boost control modules that will come on the market soon :)
Thanks mate but I have those features already.
If I was 1zz Det3 would do it all only need the Gizzmo EBC because I am V6.
I have no idea if the Unichip can do all that whilst driving 6 injectors.
Less than 400 quid for both.
Steal compared to emanage ultimate or apexi PFC.
thanks for the info
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on April 6, 2018, 21:53
thanks for the info
If you want to tone it down for the wet or whatever you just need a boost control solenoid I think the link will do the rest.
It drives ok in the wet to be honest. Going back on dyno sat 14th to map the last 1000 rpm now that the fuel pump has been uprated. Early days for you but you soon get used to power to the point where you wonder if it is producing what the dyno print indicates!
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on April 6, 2018, 22:12
It drives ok in the wet to be honest. Going back on dyno sat 14th to map the last 1000 rpm now that the fuel pump has been uprated. Early days for you but you soon get used to power to the point where you wonder if it is producing what the dyno print indicates!
Be careful.
Not sure I've seen a stock rod and piston 2zz make as much power as yours.
Seven Motorsport only push theirs to 300bhp and 12psi.
If 350 isn't enough perhaps you need a V8.
Another fill up 26.8 mpg.
More motorway and fast A roads but some toe down and town driving mixed in.
This period of wet weather has shown me how careful you have to be with standing water. It's not like I am new to AD08R but have been caught out three times in the last week only had my foot down once. Be careful.
I remember clearly ;)
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 11, 2018, 07:01
Another fill up 26.8 mpg.
More motorway and fast A roads but some toe down and town driving mixed in.
This period of wet weather has shown me how careful you have to be with standing water. It's not like I am new to AD08R but have been caught out three times in the last week only had my foot down once. Be careful.
I don't have that problem with my Toyos. LOL!
How does boost control work on a Rotrex? Are you bleeding off intake air after the compressor? Are you using a MAF?
Quote from: lamcote on April 15, 2018, 13:08
How does boost control work on a Rotrex? Are you bleeding off intake air after the compressor? Are you using a MAF?
Yes basically.
We recirculate to keep the MAF happy.
We vent boost after the charge cooler before throttle body.
If the recirculating metered air never actually reaches the engine at/beyond that boost isn't that going to still cause MAF issues, unless you specifically remap for it?
Won't you have to pick a single boost curve, do a full remap for that and then just stick with it?
If so you might as well just use a different pulley, but maybe with a restrictor to get the boost curve you want?
Or perhaps a MAP based system would help?
Edit. Just had another thought, will the Rotrex (or the MAF) like having boosted air recirculating into the inlet tract upstream of the compressor, that may well cause some problems of its own? (Also when you lift off the throttle from high boost you may suddenly briefly be blowing air back out through the MAF.)
Having a look at other solutions on the Internet, people seem to vent to atmosphere with this system?
As far as I am aware with a piggyback ECU and a MAF I have to recirculate.
Don't want to use a restrictor and certainly don't want to change pulley as I want to make as much boost as possible as early as possible.
That's why we went with a much larger Rotrex.
Hopefully get EBC fitted this week and a larger bov too.
Will vent boost much better more control hopefully.
Then maybe we will put the DET3 into fuel implant mode and have much greater control over the fueling and ultimately be much safer.
Possibly do a MAF delete and go purely on MAP although that may not be possible.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 16, 2018, 17:34
As far as I am aware with a piggyback ECU and a MAF I have to recirculate.
Don't want to use a restrictor and certainly don't want to change pulley as I want to make as much boost as possible as early as possible.
That's why we went with a much larger Rotrex.
Hopefully get EBC fitted this week and a larger bov too.
Will vent boost much better more control hopefully.
Then maybe we will put the DET3 into fuel implant mode and have much greater control over the fueling and ultimately be much safer.
Possibly do a MAF delete and go purely on MAP although that may not be possible.
So if you do all that ^ will it be much more betterer?
Are you planning on using the BOV (under control of the EBC) as a wastegate to recirculate the boost, or installing something else in addition to the BOV?
Quote from: lamcote on April 16, 2018, 18:59
Are you planning on using the BOV (under control of the EBC) as a wastegate to recirculate the boost, or installing something else in addition to the BOV?
The bov already does this.
Will just be much more precise with larger diaphragm and EBC.
We now seem to have a leak.
I am thinking oil.
Don't think it's rotrex traction fluid pretty sure that is blue.
Still averaging about 26mpg.
EBC being fitted Saturday.
Hopefully get to the bottom of this oil leak too.
Got myself some Shell Helix 5w30 Fully Synth from eurocarparts.
On special 19 quid for 5L.
It's the Vauxhall/Opel/GM spec but don't think that matters to a 20 year old engine.
Also there is a chance I will get the car weighed on Saturday too which would be nice.
Fitted larger bov and EBC.
It's as bad as ever.
And over fuelling massively to boot.
Back to the drawing board.
Injectors too big? Doesn't seem to be mapped correctly.
Ah aftermarket forced induction... Good times. Good times.
Hope you get it sorted. Standalone next step?
A bit of fault finding.
Probably back on to the rolling road.
Put the det3 into fuel implant mode for better injector control if the injectors dont require too many amps.
Try a good quality wastegate maybe.
More learning.
Will keep trying.
If worse comes to worse will get a smaller pulley.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268)
Can the system run without the b.o.v ?
Quote from: wotugonado on April 29, 2018, 19:31
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268)
Can the system run without the b.o.v ?
No it will over boost the engine and damage the compressor.
Ah ok.
In my limited understanding doesn't the system lose metered air using a bov
Yes, could be bleeding air all the time but maf/map not know and over fuel.
Quote from: MrT on April 29, 2018, 22:56
Yes, could be bleeding air all the time but maf/map not know and over fuel.
This is very likely.
The det3 is setup with the original 25mm bov the new 44mm bleeds air much quicker.
Knew it would make a difference just not how much.
Found a boost leak.
This actually makes me happy because now I'm not guessing why she is over fuelling.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) good job fella. :)
Not always the easiest things to find.
Quote from: StuC on May 14, 2018, 08:59
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) good job fella. :)
Not always the easiest things to find.
This one was staring me in the face and still took me a while to notice.
Woods... trees... justsayin'
You'll get there! :)
Great news, hopefully a bit closer to running correct
Now down with Uncle Patrick for some more fettling.
The joy of modified cars!
Quote from: Topdownman on May 19, 2018, 12:05
The joy of modified cars!
I am starting to wonder why I do it.
To give uncle Patrick a comfortable retirement I guess. Bless you and your big heart/wallet
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 19, 2018, 12:26
Quote from: Topdownman on May 19, 2018, 12:05
The joy of modified cars!
I am starting to wonder why I do it.
Because....
When Bee6 is running properly and putting a smile on your face every time, this will be forgottten. :)
Hang in there mate. It will be worth it.
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 19, 2018, 12:26
I am starting to wonder why I do it.
Having been lucky enough to have had a drive of your old silver turbo it's very clear to me why you do it. Soon mate. Pay off will be more than worth it i imagine :)
Rocker cover gaskets being replaced today
Top of the engine looks ok.
What about the other side? ;)
How is the whole 'boost' thing going?
@StuC (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15683)
Engine back together and wastegate fitted.
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) and our survey says?
Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 13:13
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
It's gonna need 3 buckets to wash that!
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Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 13:13
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
No [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Got restricter in it so I can change size . If we got small one I can't go bigger if need it [emoji16]
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Quote from: wotugonado on May 19, 2018, 12:40
To give uncle Patrick a comfortable retirement I guess. Bless you and your big heart/wallet
Wish
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Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 13:13
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
No [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Got restricter in it so I can change size . If we got small one I can't go bigger if need it [emoji16]
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A well thought through plan, my man.
Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 13:13
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
It's a Tial eBay special. 44mm.
I need to waste 7psi at high rpm.
I bought it.
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 23, 2018, 18:00
Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 13:13
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
It's a Tial eBay special. 44mm.
I need to waste 7psi at high rpm.
I bought it.
I prefered the image of @headcase (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18226) going to a shop..
this one sir?
no... Bigger.
this one?
no,bigger
THIS one?
Hmm....y..no bigger
OK mate, THIIS one.
Yes, perfect. Now show me your restrictors.
This is absolutely awesome.
Quote from: Jims on May 23, 2018, 18:54
This is absolutely awesome.
When it works properly.
Fingers crossed be sorted by the weekend.
Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 18:05
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 23, 2018, 18:00
Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 13:13
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
It's a Tial eBay special. 44mm.
I need to waste 7psi at high rpm.
I bought it.
I prefered the image of @headcase (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18226) going to a shop..
this one sir?
no... Bigger.
this one?
no,bigger
THIS one?
Hmm....y..no bigger
OK mate, THIIS one.
Yes, perfect. Now show me your restrictors.
Make for a better story. Lol.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) when will we know if it's all good in (Unda) da hood?
Be worth it in the end Scott
Quote from: StuC on May 23, 2018, 21:56
Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 18:05
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 23, 2018, 18:00
Quote from: shnazzle on May 23, 2018, 13:13
Couldn't Patrick find a bigger wastegate?
It's a Tial eBay special. 44mm.
I need to waste 7psi at high rpm.
I bought it.
I prefered the image of @headcase (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18226) going to a shop..
this one sir?
no... Bigger.
this one?
no,bigger
THIS one?
Hmm....y..no bigger
OK mate, THIIS one.
Yes, perfect. Now show me your restrictors.
Make for a better story. Lol.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) when will we know if it's all good in (Unda) da hood?
Friday it should be finished not sure when I will pick it up.
Has a habit of behaving itself for Pat and breaking on me.
Once I have put a 100 miles on it I should know it's ok.
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 23, 2018, 23:38
.....
Has a habit of behaving itself for Pat and breaking on me.
.....
Helen could have written that.
(almost) every time I take it out it's pretty much perfect save one or two expected quirks of piggyback.
When Helen takes it out it stalls, stumbles, erratic boost.,etc.
If Helen never hears "it was fine when I drove it" ever again she'll be a happier woman. I'm sure you feel the same.
Mechanically all good.
Unfortunately DET3 won't control the injectors properly in fuel implant mode.
Batch fire just not giving enough control at high rpm with boost.
Quick Google and can't find anyone running FIT mode on a V6.
So it's back to running it as a normal piggyback.
Not the end of the world but a shame.
Stand alone ECU next year.
If someone else is paying.
Until next year then...
What does this mean for how Bee is running this year?
Quote from: StuC on May 26, 2018, 11:33
Until next year then...
What does this mean for how Bee is running this year?
Should be fine.
Previous map was good we just had boost issues.
Now they're sorted will just load that map up and give it a run on the Dyno for safety.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) can you tell me if the Det3 is any good for implementing knock control? I have read it doesn't have a knock sensor built in, but is it able to use the standard 1zz knock sensor?
Thanks
Quote from: lamcote on June 2, 2018, 10:53
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) can you tell me if the Det3 is any good for implementing knock control? I have read it doesn't have a knock sensor built in, but is it able to use the standard 1zz knock sensor?
Thanks
All piggybacks should be at the mercy of the stock ECU when it comes to knock.
Pretty sure my knock sensors are doing there job.
Could be different in fuel implant mode where the det3 has total injector control.
Got her back all was well 4psi of boost will do until we can find a decent ECU for a V6.
Until today when she over heated and spat her coolant out.
Took 5.5L to fill her up again and seems fine.
No obvious leaks so it must be head gasket or water pump.
No sitting in traffic all motorway or national speed limit stuff.
Quote from: 1979scotte on June 2, 2018, 12:57
Got her back all was well 4psi of boost will do until we can find a decent ECU for a V6.
Until today when she over heated and spat her coolant out.
Took 5.5L to fill her up again and seems fine.
No obvious leaks so it must be head gasket or water pump.
No sitting in traffic all motorway or national speed limit stuff.
There was something about the water pump with the V6 conversions. Apparently the blueprint part with correct part number was actually the wrong type. I'm sure there is a thread on twobrutal. Not sure the history of your conversion but that may be something you want to try check. Andy
Glad you have her back and she is running ok.
Re:coolant. How many of the undertrays are in place?
I ask, as it can be tricky to determine losses with them in place, depending on the volume.
Quote from: StuC on June 2, 2018, 13:04
Glad you have her back and she is running ok.
Re:coolant. How many of the undertrays are in place?
I ask, as it can be tricky to determine losses with them in place, depending on the volume.
No rear under trays.
Have the front ones.
5.5L is a lot to loose it's not like i don't check.
Unless we had the mother of all airlocks.
@ayresyboy (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14261) thanks Andy.
Having sniffer test Thursday.
Will look for leaks but am not hopeful.
Didn't drop any at Pat garage or the Dyno.
My Mk2 1mz spat it's coolant out too. Got annoyed so it's hidden away in the garage until I can be bothered to do something about it.
sorry to hear of the coolant issue. I had similar, years back, on my way back from Corfu, on the shores of Lake Constance, where I had been sitting in traffic for a while.
Radiator end cap on stock rad, popped undone.
I put a Koyo rad in, when I got home and installed a secondary water pump, which was very useful, but in the end, my underlying issue was my head gasket, unfortunately.
I replaced the Toyota item with a bespoke copper gasket, but it wasn't cheap, at the time. It was made by Ferriday and once fitted, never had a moment's trouble with it.
http://www.ferriday.co.uk/head-gasket-drawings-on-file/
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Thanks Nigel all advice welcome
I am pretty sure it is pressure related.
Somewhere 8n the system there could be a leak or the rad cap could be shot. Again.
Did some playing yesterday.
No sludge in the oil cap.
No white exhaust fumes.
Temperature gauge just below operating temp and she blew coolant out all over Waitrose car park. About 500 ml.
Will still have a sniffer test done.
On the 3VZ Scott, the water filling neck was on top, next to the driver's side suspension tower, and if I had the filler cap removed and revved the engine, many tiny bubbles appeared, almost like fizzing. I did a vid at the time and will see if I can find it. That was what confirmed head gasket for me.
Local garage have looked at the car.
They dont think it's the headgasket and found no leaks.
That really only leaves the water pump or the rad cap.
Will take her down to see uncle Patrick tomorrow and see what he thinks.
Quote from: 1979scotte on June 7, 2018, 20:17
Local garage have looked at the car.
They dont think it's the headgasket and found no leaks.
That really only leaves the water pump or the rad cap.
Will take her down to see uncle Patrick tomorrow and see what he thinks.
Good news, I guess. I am guessing you'd be happier with Patrick's confirmation of that though. I am sure he would have picked it up if it was loosing that much.
Still stumped at the overheating.
Have ordered a new japspeed radiator thermostat and proper Toyota coolant cap.
Next will probably try water pump.
After that it will be engine out.
Did Patrick manage to help diagnose or narrow down ?
Quote from: 1979scotte on June 30, 2018, 13:13
Still stumped at the overheating.
Have ordered a new japspeed radiator thermostat and proper Toyota coolant cap.
Next will probably try water pump.
After that it will be engine out.
Sad times Mate.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268)
Have gone back to this thread to continue about your coolant loss problems.
As far as I am aware any coolant loss is via the cooling/ heating system via the radiator and all the pipe work with lots of suspicious joints.
As I understand it all this has been checked and the problem persists.
Where else can coolant leave the system- you are now going to look at the head gasket, because, as you say your 2 idles but looses coolant when boosted. But you have no indication of emulsification of an oil water mix.
In the olden day's, engine blocks had another outlet in the block, formed I understand to assist the casting process. This was sealed with an oversized steel disc, a core plug , that was an interference fit into the hole. I do recall this being mentioned as a source of leaks on some older engines.
I have used " search" for "core plug" with no result, so perhaps there is not one on a 1zz or on your 6.
If there is though, just maybe!
@Joesson (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18231)
Thanks mate
We have a few other ideas @StuC (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15683) remembers another member having similar issues with a V6 and the coolant system was plumbed incorrectly.
Hopefully as we start to pull things apart will will notice something amiss.
Car has now has radiator replaced.
It was a 50mm Koyo rad that was leaking from both sides and had a dent in it.
New japspeed 40mm there now. Rad fit nicely but was a hassle getting the fan to fit needed fettling.
Also new Toyota thermostat and coolant cap.
Might I suggest running her up to temp and letting her idle for a while in one spot. A leak should manifest beneath the car, at some point.
Quote from: Carolyn on July 15, 2018, 16:45
Might I suggest running her up to temp and letting her idle for a while in one spot. A leak should manifest beneath the car, at some point.
This was done prior to Ding Day no leaks manifested themselves.
Even from the radiator which had obviously seen better days and been leaking.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) - have a look at this link. Core plugs exist and can leak.
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/happy11.gif
Quote from: Joesson on July 15, 2018, 20:14
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) - have a look at this link. Core plugs exist and can leak.
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/happy11.gif
Are you sure that is the right LINKY Tony?
Thank you @StuC (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15683), that is not the link I intended!
This one should be-
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=12495
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 15, 2018, 19:36
Quote from: Carolyn on July 15, 2018, 16:45
Might I suggest running her up to temp and letting her idle for a while in one spot. A leak should manifest beneath the car, at some point.
This was done prior to Ding Day no leaks manifested themselves.
Even from the radiator which had obviously seen better days and been leaking.
In which case it must be going into the combustion chamber. (As we discussed at Ding Day).
Sorry to throw another 2 pence worth in the pot, but I've had a similar issue with a different car in the past, down to poor routing design of coolant pipes and basically when the engine got hot it would sometimes cause an air lock and pressure (and temp) would rise quickly and blow a load of coolant out the overflow vent. Once cooled down most times the air lock would even clear for the day but it returned randomly, usually on motorway when it was most inconvenient or it traffic.
The solution was a very good vacuum purge and refill of the coolant system but many owners added a small bypass hose to allow a small amount of coolant to recirculate without going through the block and this kept flow up and stopped air locks. Or as you say, change the routing.
Thought that might be useful info Scotte. Hope you get it sorted out.
@MrT (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=24395)
Anything now worth considering.
Water in cylinder 3
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 17, 2018, 08:28
Water in cylinder 3
At least you know the issue now. Hopefully no damage done?
Quote from: shnazzle on July 17, 2018, 08:53
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 17, 2018, 08:28
Water in cylinder 3
At least you know the issue now. Hopefully no damage done?
Find out when we rip it apart.
Feel for you.
At least the 'clutching at straws' is over. I take it the engine went in without being opened up first?
You're in good hands, just make sure the surfaces are good and you'll get a good result, I'm sure.
Quote from: Carolyn on July 17, 2018, 10:36
At least the 'clutching at straws' is over. I take it the engine went in without being opened up first?
You're in good hands, just make sure the surfaces are good and you'll get a good result, I'm sure.
It's originally a woodsport swap so I doubt anything was done to it.
I really should of had it re built when I bought it. Am always telling 2zz swappers that's what they should do.
Onward and upward.
Maybe some strengthening at same time for future higher forced induction applications ;)
Quote from: ayresyboy on July 17, 2018, 11:40
Maybe some strengthening at same time for future higher forced induction applications ;)
oooohhh... now this is getting interesting... Supercharged 1MZ is clearly old hat...
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@jvanzyl (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22834)
You guys like spending other people's money don't you.
If you lend me 2k each then I might be able to afford it.
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 17, 2018, 13:08
@ayresyboy (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14261)
@jvanzyl (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22834)
You guys like spending other people's money don't you.
If you lend me 2k each then I might be able to afford it.
So you're thinking about it then? ;)
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 17, 2018, 13:08
@ayresyboy (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14261)
@jvanzyl (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22834)
You guys like spending other people's money don't you.
If you lend me 2k each then I might be able to afford it.
This IS the spend other people's money site, after all.
So its a full rebuild then? Would be foolish not to with the engine out.
Remember this car is almost too fast already, you just need reliable power!
Quote from: Topdownman on July 17, 2018, 13:45
So its a full rebuild then? Would be foolish not to with the engine out.
Remember this car is almost too fast already, you just need reliable power Cooling!
Fixed it for you :P
Cant argue with that!
I also seek reliable power..... Car with headcase now scott?
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on July 17, 2018, 21:22
I also seek reliable power..... Car with headcase now scott?
It basically lives there.
my car will probaly be there in about 3 weeks time. i hope.....
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So after much soul searching have decided to have a full stock rebuild with a couple of twists.
Will try to lower compression either via machining pistons or fitting thicker headgasket.
May fit forged rods because they can be had for not much money.
Forged pistons are just to costly to justify when you aren't looking to make huge power.
Really need an Ecumaster black or a link Fury. Will see how things go.
That's the spirit!
Glad to see its getting sorted.
I'm sure once its done it will be fantastic.
Hang in there. We all want it working again.
Looks like a good compromise between cost and opportunity.
I am glad you have been able to make a decision. :D
What sort of time frame are we talking here?
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 20, 2018, 13:29
So after much soul searching have decided to have a full stock rebuild with a couple of twists.
Will try to lower compression either via machining pistons or fitting thicker headgasket.
May fit forged rods because they can be had for not much money.
Forged pistons are just to costly to justify when you aren't looking to make huge power.
Really need an Ecumaster black or a link Fury. Will see how things go.
What's the stock compression ratio?
Quote from: StuC on July 20, 2018, 15:14
What sort of time frame are we talking here?
Knowing Patrick, prob already done!
Get in touch with Greg at ecumaster. I'm sure he will sort you out. I can't believe the difference it's made to my car. He will get your car running and driving properly.
Stock compression I believe is 10.5.
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Quote from: StuC on July 20, 2018, 15:14
Looks like a good compromise between cost and opportunity.
I am glad you have been able to make a decision. :D
What sort of time frame are we talking here?
Not sure on time.
No rush.
Quote from: Carolyn on July 20, 2018, 15:27
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 20, 2018, 13:29
So after much soul searching have decided to have a full stock rebuild with a couple of twists.
Will try to lower compression either via machining pistons or fitting thicker headgasket.
May fit forged rods because they can be had for not much money.
Forged pistons are just to costly to justify when you aren't looking to make huge power.
Really need an Ecumaster black or a link Fury. Will see how things go.
What's the stock compression ratio?
10.5:1 I believe.
Engine coming out today.
Engine out.
Some unbelievable bodges.
Knowing who did it...... the bodges are not that unbelievable (:< >:)
Quote from: mikek on August 1, 2018, 17:59
Knowing who did it...... the bodges are not that unbelievable (:< >:)
We'll add it to the evidence pile... Unfortunate that you had to be the butt end of that recurring joke.
Quote from: shnazzle on August 1, 2018, 18:20
Quote from: mikek on August 1, 2018, 17:59
Knowing who did it...... the bodges are not that unbelievable (:< >:)
We'll add it to the evidence pile... Unfortunate that you had to be the butt end of that recurring joke.
Don't tell me.... I'll 'brace' myself??
I have found small tools in and around my various cars over the years, left by service mechanics. Never found a wooden shafted adjuster though :)
Quote from: Carolyn on August 1, 2018, 19:00
Quote from: shnazzle on August 1, 2018, 18:20
Quote from: mikek on August 1, 2018, 17:59
Knowing who did it...... the bodges are not that unbelievable (:< >:)
We'll add it to the evidence pile... Unfortunate that you had to be the butt end of that recurring joke.
Don't tell me.... I'll 'brace' myself??
Not this time!
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 1, 2018, 17:42
Engine out.
Some unbelievable bodges.
@mikek (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22649) agreed.
It least you know exactly what you are dealing with now. Worth checking everything you can elsewhere in the engine bay now the lump is out.
Hopefully get her opened up today.
I hope we find just a blown headgasket and nothing else wrong.
What a complete mess this is from from the original builder... Is this not enough to stop people in the future using them for a V6 swap in a mk3?
Quote from: jvanzyl on August 2, 2018, 15:25
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Works for me if you open in Tapatalk. I then went to Web View.
What are we looking for on pg12?
Is that Scott's engine?
Quote from: shnazzle on August 2, 2018, 15:39
Quote from: jvanzyl on August 2, 2018, 15:25
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Works for me if you open in Tapatalk. I then went to Web View.
What are we looking for on pg12?
It was a yellow engine and John thought it was my car.
But it was vvti and dual throttle body so can't be mine.
Yeah - my bad.. I was combing through the 2brutal posts as there appears to be a record of most builds, but I couldn't find scotts..
Sorry.
Off topic.
Rant on.
JV.
"My bad"
I bloody hate that phrase.
Rant off.
Apologies.
Normal service has resumed.
Quote from: Ardent on August 2, 2018, 20:36
Sorry.
Off topic.
Rant on.
JV.
"My bad"
I bloody hate that phrase.
Rant off.
Apologies.
Normal service has resumed.
Shall we attribute that tirade to grape juice?
Not this time.
The grape juice has had a calming influence in this case.
No work done today.
Some ginetta race car needed it's front end sorting so mine got pushed back
@headcase (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18226)
I don't mind waiting in line behind another MR2 but a bloody ginetta is a bit much ;p
Dear Scott
I feel for you.
As tom alluded to, when new members come along. Should it be club policy to dissuade them from using a certain v6 converter.
Just for clarity.
I like and respect JV.
Just that phrase.
Quote from: Ardent on August 2, 2018, 20:49
Just for clarity.
I like and respect JV.
Just that phrase.
Now I know that the grape juice is having an effect.
Like ok but you've gone too far with respect FFS the man is an Audi driver!
I redact my last statement.
Partially.
He did load it up with mr2 goodness for others at DD.
Did not pay attention to the what. Thought it was a skoda octavia estate.
Quote from: Ardent on August 2, 2018, 22:39
I redact my last statement.
Partially.
He did load it up with mr2 goodness for others at DD.
Did not pay attention to the what. Thought it was a skoda octavia estate.
Hahahaha!
Burn!
Quote from: shnazzle on August 2, 2018, 23:33
Quote from: Ardent on August 2, 2018, 22:39
I redact my last statement.
Partially.
He did load it up with mr2 goodness for others at DD.
Did not pay attention to the what. Thought it was a skoda octavia estate.
Hahahaha!
Burn!
They're basically the same car anyway! haha
Hope it all gets sorted soon Scotte.
And here's me thinking how good it was to have a local expert to fit a V6 in mine when I decide to do it! :withstupid:
Quote from: tricky1138 on August 3, 2018, 08:48
Quote from: shnazzle on August 2, 2018, 23:33
Quote from: Ardent on August 2, 2018, 22:39
I redact my last statement.
Partially.
He did load it up with mr2 goodness for others at DD.
Did not pay attention to the what. Thought it was a skoda octavia estate.
Hahahaha!
Burn!
They're basically the same car anyway! haha
Hope it all gets sorted soon Scotte.
And here's me thinking how good it was to have a local expert to fit a V6 in mine when I decide to do it! :withstupid:
hmmmm.... I shall have to rethink my "support car" efforts clearly.. not too sure what kind of Audi is acceptable to you lot (if any even exists!) - but in my defence it was going cheap!
Look at these gaskets.
No expense spared here.
Why bother with multi layer steel Toyota OEM gaskets when these are so good.
That settles it.
Cylinders 2 and 3 leaking.
These gaskets just didn't like the boost.
Any other damage or just new decent head gasket required?
Quote from: mikek on August 3, 2018, 14:24
Any other damage or just new decent head gasket required?
Looks good so far.
It will be having standard rebuild whatever.
Hopefully not serious bottom end work required.
Hopefully good news then :)
I was expecting one side of the gasket to say "Kellogs"......
Sounds like the best news in the circumstances?
Quote from: Topdownman on August 3, 2018, 14:51
I was expecting one side of the gasket to say "Kellogs"......
Sounds like the best news in the circumstances?
I am happy that we now know what the problem is rather than guessing.
It's proof that you can pass a sniffer test but still have a blown headgasket.
It probably only really let's go under boost or when it gets hot.
Kellogg's?
Probably been just as good.
I was under the impression that all the V6 swaps had MLS gaskets but maybe I am wrong.
Anyone got the post code for woodsport? For the sat nav? POS's
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Talk with Patrick about head bolts/studs.. might need a bit better for the boost?
As I thought, lifting when the chamber pressure goes up.
Quote from: Carolyn on August 3, 2018, 15:57
Talk with Patrick about head bolts/studs.. might need a bit better for the boost?
As I thought, lifting when the chamber pressure goes up.
ARP head studs.
Not 1mz specific adapted from another application.
To be fair, at least 50% of the results to my search just now for 1mz returned fibre head gaskets. I don't think you can't hang an engine builder for using a fibre gasket on an NA engine.
Quote from: jonbill on August 3, 2018, 17:00
To be fair, at least 50% of the results to my search just now for 1mz returned fibre head gaskets. I don't think you can hang an engine builder for using a fibre gasket on an NA engine.
but for a string of bodged engines..... you CAN draw a conclusion.
Quote from: jonbill on August 3, 2018, 17:00
To be fair, at least 50% of the results to my search just now for 1mz returned fibre head gaskets. I don't think you can hang an engine builder for using a fibre gasket on an NA engine.
I wouldn't disagree and I am yet to see this gasket but someone who has seen hundreds of head gaskets has assured me this one is of very poor quality.
The picture below is what is going back on the motor.
A genuine OEM Toyota MLS headgasket.
At least you have found what the original problem was before it was too late. Now you can make everything 100% before putting everything back together
That's the part number of the MLS the gasket that is in it is what a aftermarket one looks like so a aftermarket headset is cheaper then Toyota one but don't use the head gaskets and replace with MLS one because all the other gaskets in set are metal
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I would like to think a corner has been turned.
After lots of humming and harring.
Watching YouTube videos about cheap wastegates has caused me to blow the dust off me wallet and get one of these
(https://www.rivalmotorsport.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/950x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/g/f/564182629d3ec28f370486e315484d17/gfb-ex44-external-wastegate-44mm-31.jpg)
And while it was out I thought I may as well get one of these too
(https://www.rivalmotorsport.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/950x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/g/f/90075b66e8bef97de5c09550edf04329/gfb-dv+-single-piston-recirculation-dump-valve-universal-31.jpg)
Very nice!
saw your car on sat scott, popped down to discuss with Patrick the spec for my next engine
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268), as I mentioned previously when speaking with @dan944 (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14286) and his mentioning of the kit on his 2, he explained the smoothing effect of the waste gate and how noticeable it was to the driver.
Would I be correct in thinking that the wastegate and /or BOV have this smoothing effect also on the engine? Equal and opposite reaction and all that.
So, could it be that these valves were not on Bee6 or where not operating at their optimum?
This being the case perhaps that is the root cause of your problem, the (I'll call it )knock effect, at times found the weakest point of your engine.
@Joesson (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18231)
The headgasket was going to give way with any form of forced induction they're were pony.
And that was the 'trap'!
Heads back from machinist
That'll do donkey. That'll do
Let the rebuild commence!
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 17, 2018, 09:08
Heads back from machinist
That's very open. Have you got a photo of the top of the piston? Just out of curiosity...
Quote from: jonbill on August 17, 2018, 15:57
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 17, 2018, 09:08
Heads back from machinist
That's very open. Have you got a photo of the top of the piston? Just out of curiosity...
Sorry but they're down with Headcase so no photos although there must be some on Google.
Not sure what you mean by open.
We are lowering the compression ratio.
Think he is referring that your actual head has been opened ;)
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Quote from: jonbill on August 17, 2018, 15:57
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 17, 2018, 09:08
Heads back from machinist
That's very open. Have you got a photo of the top of the piston? Just out of curiosity...
Picture of the top of my PB trophy. 1MZ piston.
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 17, 2018, 16:09
Quote from: jonbill on August 17, 2018, 15:57
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 17, 2018, 09:08
Heads back from machinist
That's very open. Have you got a photo of the top of the piston? Just out of curiosity...
Sorry but they're down with Headcase so no photos although there must be some on Google.
Not sure what you mean by open.
We are lowering the compression ratio.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268)
Machining the cylinder head I believe typically increases the compression ratio, so how will this be lowered, by modifying pistons ( necessary I guess due to closer proximity of valves to piston heads) and/or modifying combustion chambers or has that already been done?
Quote from: Joesson on August 17, 2018, 19:28
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 17, 2018, 16:09
Quote from: jonbill on August 17, 2018, 15:57
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 17, 2018, 09:08
Heads back from machinist
That's very open. Have you got a photo of the top of the piston? Just out of curiosity...
Sorry but they're down with Headcase so no photos although there must be some on Google.
Not sure what you mean by open.
We are lowering the compression ratio.
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268)
Machining the cylinder head I believe typically increases the compression ratio, so how will this be lowered, by modifying pistons ( necessary I guess due to closer proximity of valves to piston heads) and/or modifying combustion chambers or has that already been done?
Skimming increases compression. Removing metal from the combustion chamber does the opposite. That is also 'machining the cylinder head'.
In this case, a light skim to ensure a good seal and then quite a bit of meat out of the combustion chamber. :)
@Carolyn (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22891)
Thanks for the clarification Carolyn. Is the skimming of the head light enough to keep the valve heads away from the piston heads?
I can see now where the material has been removed from the combustion chamber. I seem to remember that this sort of volume adjustment was measured using a pipette, is that still the case?
When the head is skimmed the vavles are then seated further back in the head the combustion part of the head has been removed inceaseing the volume in the so lowing cr with have gained 21 cc of space so will bring the cr down to 8.5.1 from 10.5.1 should be able to push 10 psi with out a problem now [emoji16] Scott just have to update his brakes now to slow him down [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Quote from: Joesson on August 17, 2018, 20:09
@Carolyn (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22891)
Thanks for the clarification Carolyn. Is the skimming of the head light enough to keep the valve heads away from the piston heads?
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@headcase (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18226) Thanks, I thought that just the head had been skimmed but with Carolyn 's and now your explanations I can see all is well.
In my youth such work was not unusual, but in my middle life my wheels were repmobiles , and was not aware of what was being done.
Now I'm more interested again there has been little or no " head work" being mentioned on this forum. I did think that perhaps modern design and manufacture of now generally alloy heads left little scope for improvement. Turbo or complete engine swops seem to be most popular so I'm interested that head work still has a place in improving performance.
Having a problem stopping I'm sure will be a welcome change for Scotte. It's generally been a problem for him to keep going in the Bee6 ;)
Old skool no one machines stuff . Nowadays . This was a case of have to . So we can lower cr or it's pistons and rebore and a very big expense as 1 mzfe pistons are custom from USA the last set I fitted we're 1500 for pistons and 1000 for forged rods . Then machine work you are kissing good by to 5grand just on the block .
Quote from: Joesson on August 17, 2018, 20:37
@headcase (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18226) Thanks, I thought that just the head had been skimmed but with Carolyn 's and now your explanations I can see all is well.
In my youth such work was not unusual, but in my middle life my wheels were repmobiles , and was not aware of what was being done.
Now I'm more interested again there has been little or no " head work" being mentioned on this forum. I did think that perhaps modern design and manufacture of now generally alloy heads left little scope for improvement. Turbo or complete engine swops seem to be most popular so I'm interested that head work still has a place in improving performance.
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If there is a fainting emoji. I would use it here.
That was the last forged 1 mzfe I done just finished painting it in goldleaf[emoji16](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180817/9de306754c71eb81771798aa50c37db7.jpg)
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Won't having no Squish limit the boost it can run without detonation? Or is 10psi not so much?
Quote from: jonbill on August 17, 2018, 21:29
Won't having no Squish limit the boost it can run without detonation? Or is 10psi not so much?
Something's got to give somewhere and squish and quench are it.
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That was the last forged 1 mzfe I done just finished painting it in goldleaf[emoji16](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180817/9de306754c71eb81771798aa50c37db7.jpg)
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BMC painted their reconditioned engines Gold!
https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/be100a.htm
Quote from: headcase on August 17, 2018, 21:03
That was the last forged 1 mzfe I done just finished painting it in goldleaf[emoji16](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180817/9de306754c71eb81771798aa50c37db7.jpg)
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Looks amazing ... like a piece of art.
Just some pics
And more
Looking good mate
Not enough gold. B6 deserves a gold engine.
Quote from: SuperArt on August 23, 2018, 17:51
Not enough gold. B6 deserves a gold engine.
Gold isn't my thing.
Black and bare metal give good contrast with the yellow.
For me.
Polished bare metal.
Kleenex on standby.
Quote from: Ardent on August 23, 2018, 21:37
For me.
Polished bare metal.
Kleenex on standby.
LOL
With the gold engine it would be like the briefcase in pulp fiction when opening the engine bay
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Engine is back together.
It's being re wired to get rid of all the bodges.
Then there is a complete new exhaust to fit.
Shouldn't be long now.
Not many sleep's now @1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) ;)
Quote from: 1979scotte on September 7, 2018, 21:58
Engine is back together.
It's being re wired to get rid of all the bodges.
Then there is a complete new exhaust to fit.
Shouldn't be long now.
Then time for that new ecu?!
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Quote from: 1979scotte on September 7, 2018, 21:58
Engine is back together.
It's being re wired to get rid of all the bodges.
Then there is a complete new exhaust to fit.
Shouldn't be long now.
Then time for that new ecu?!
Something for the future.
I can almost smell the fuel, Not long now mate
Quote from: s12vea on September 8, 2018, 08:29
I can almost sell the fuel, Not long now mate
Predictive text is so................................predictable!
Nevertheless Scotte May have to sell (some of) the family silver to get his Bee6 back.
Engine back in.
Wheels back on.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 3, 2018, 11:38
Engine back in.
Wheels back on.
Glad its getting there mate. :) :) :)
She will be a different machine I'm sure
Any idea when you'll get it back?
Quote from: jvanzyl on October 3, 2018, 13:51
Any idea when you'll get it back?
No.
Still things to be done.
Should be ready in time for the snow.
I still have your Jack and other bits and pieces.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 3, 2018, 14:06
Quote from: jvanzyl on October 3, 2018, 13:51
Any idea when you'll get it back?
No.
Still things to be done.
Should be ready in time for the snow.
I still have your Jack and other bits and pieces.
Yeah I know... need to figure out how to sort that...
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Quote from: 1979scotte on October 3, 2018, 14:06
Quote from: jvanzyl on October 3, 2018, 13:51
Any idea when you'll get it back?
No.
Still things to be done.
Should be ready in time for the snow.
I still have your Jack and other bits and pieces.
Yeah I know... need to figure out how to sort that...
I am happy to bring them over but it's finding the time.
ATM all my weekends are devoted to working or family.
Thanks man, know what you mean!
He's going to be looking for a reason to go out driving very shortly though!!
My car will join yours on Sat morning Scott!
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on October 3, 2018, 20:50
My car will join yours on Sat morning Scott!
Hopefully not for long.
Just some final exhaust work to do.
Then some rolling road time.
Will surely need to with all the head work that's been done and a hopefully much freer flowing exhaust.
Good to hear there is some progress.
Hope it will be back home soon.
When you mentioned rolling road I wondered if you were having an ECU!
Quote from: Topdownman on October 26, 2018, 18:53
Good to hear there is some progress.
Hope it will be back home soon.
When you mentioned rolling road I wondered if you were having an ECU!
Piggyback
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 26, 2018, 17:55
Just some final exhaust work to do.
Then some rolling road time.
Will surely need to with all the head work that's been done and a hopefully much freer flowing exhaust.
Quick question on that, bearing in mind my own possible plans for the winter, do you not need to run a rebuilt engine in before the rolling road work? Or can it be done gently using safe revs?
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on October 26, 2018, 20:28
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 26, 2018, 17:55
Just some final exhaust work to do.
Then some rolling road time.
Will surely need to with all the head work that's been done and a hopefully much freer flowing exhaust.
Quick question on that, bearing in mind my own possible plans for the winter, do you not need to run a rebuilt engine in before the rolling road work? Or can it be done gently using safe revs?
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It's not really been rebuilt.
Everything was found to be within tolerances.
Just the head that's had a load of work.
I just follow the mechanics advice tbh.
Pat said it was mint.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on October 26, 2018, 20:28
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 26, 2018, 17:55
Just some final exhaust work to do.
Then some rolling road time.
Will surely need to with all the head work that's been done and a hopefully much freer flowing exhaust.
Quick question on that, bearing in mind my own possible plans for the winter, do you not need to run a rebuilt engine in before the rolling road work? Or can it be done gently using safe revs?
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It's not really been rebuilt.
Everything was found to be within tolerances.
Just the head that's had a load of work.
I just follow the mechanics advice tbh.
Pat said it was mint.
Well ignoring the obvious "because it's got a hole in it?" lame joke, if that's what he says then you can only go with it as you said.
I imagine I'll have to run the new pistons, cams, valves and chain in a bit before I get mine tuned up..[emoji23]
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Should be mechanically complete next week.
Then off for mapping.
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Quote from: 1979scotte on October 26, 2018, 20:33
Quote from: Call the midlife! on October 26, 2018, 20:28
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 26, 2018, 17:55
Just some final exhaust work to do.
Then some rolling road time.
Will surely need to with all the head work that's been done and a hopefully much freer flowing exhaust.
Quick question on that, bearing in mind my own possible plans for the winter, do you not need to run a rebuilt engine in before the rolling road work? Or can it be done gently using safe revs?
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It's not really been rebuilt.
Everything was found to be within tolerances.
Just the head that's had a load of work.
I just follow the mechanics advice tbh.
Pat said it was mint.
Well ignoring the obvious "because it's got a hole in it?" lame joke, if that's what he says then you can only go with it as you said.
I imagine I'll have to run the new pistons, cams, valves and chain in a bit before I get mine tuned up..[emoji23]
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No it does not need to be 'run in'. If, by 'running in' you mean low revs and very gentle use. It needs to go through the full rev range to settle the rings in the bores without glazing them. Avoid long periods of idling and running at steady revs for the first 100 miles.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 13, 2019, 12:12
Should be mechanically complete next week.
Then off for mapping.
Exciting news Scotte, look forward to hearing how it goes. :)
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on October 26, 2018, 20:40
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 26, 2018, 20:33
Quote from: Call the midlife! on October 26, 2018, 20:28
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 26, 2018, 17:55
Just some final exhaust work to do.
Then some rolling road time.
Will surely need to with all the head work that's been done and a hopefully much freer flowing exhaust.
Quick question on that, bearing in mind my own possible plans for the winter, do you not need to run a rebuilt engine in before the rolling road work? Or can it be done gently using safe revs?
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It's not really been rebuilt.
Everything was found to be within tolerances.
Just the head that's had a load of work.
I just follow the mechanics advice tbh.
Pat said it was mint.
Well ignoring the obvious "because it's got a hole in it?" lame joke, if that's what he says then you can only go with it as you said.
I imagine I'll have to run the new pistons, cams, valves and chain in a bit before I get mine tuned up..[emoji23]
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No it does not need to be 'run in'. If, by 'running in' you mean low revs and very gentle use. It needs to go through the full rev range to settle the rings in the bores without glazing them. Avoid long periods of idling and running at steady revs for the first 100 miles.
Cheers Carolyn, it was meant to be getting driven to the Cotswolds to put it through its paces but won't be running by then so I think a little tour round the Dales is on the horizon.
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Just renewed with Greenlight.
Less than £450 all mods declared upto 300 bhp.
Happy enough with that.
Saves me all the hassle of trying to get Flux to play nice.
Nice. You been driving it yet? Andy
youtu.be/K8LUE4DOFOo (http://youtu.be/K8LUE4DOFOo)
Sounds great Scott
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 15:49
youtu.be/K8LUE4DOFOo (http://youtu.be/K8LUE4DOFOo)
Saucy...
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Quote from: 1979scotte on February 14, 2019, 16:58
Just renewed with Greenlight.
Less than £450 all mods declared upto 300 bhp.
Happy enough with that.
Saves me all the hassle of trying to get Flux to play nice.
Was that limited mileage, NCB, garaged?
So, is this "new exhaust" ( at long last) close to your home now Scotte?
Quote from: ayresyboy on February 27, 2019, 17:06
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 14, 2019, 16:58
Just renewed with Greenlight.
Less than £450 all mods declared upto 300 bhp.
Happy enough with that.
Saves me all the hassle of trying to get Flux to play nice.
Was that limited mileage, NCB, garaged?
Full protected NCB
7.5K limited mileage
Parked on drive
8k value.
That sounds deadly
Quote from: Joesson on February 27, 2019, 17:29
So, is this "new exhaust" ( at long last) close to your home now Scotte?
Nope no closer to home Tony more to do yet.
Had an ECUmaster classic fitted so that needs to be mapped.
Patience is not the ability to wait, but the ability to keep a good attitude while waiting
Sounds mega !!!
That is worth listening to through something proper, not just the phone speaker.
Awesome Scotte! :)
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) I am glad she is back together now. I feel you have demonstrated extraordinary patience with this. I really hope the mapping goes smoothly and Bee6 is once more where she should be...
on the road!
You know what's coming... Why the classic vs the black?
I know the classic does the job for you just fine but with the deal on and all?... Did it still make a big difference?
Quote from: shnazzle on February 27, 2019, 20:34
You know what's coming... Why the classic vs the black?
I know the classic does the job for you just fine but with the deal on and all?... Did it still make a big difference?
God bless you Pat.
What deal?
The 1zz 2zz deal?
There isn't a 1mz Rotrex deal.
Wish there were.
RRR couldn't even give us pointers to get the thing to start.
It's was bought from them.
Classic will do the job. Couldn't afford black and many of the features like E throttle and variable cam control aren't needed on my application. Overkill.
Did I mention had a complete new engine loom made up and a coil on plug conversion done.
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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You did not mention.
Just wondered as he mentioned at the time that 1mz wouldn't be a problem. Although I think that was more a sweeping statement meaning he COULD get any engine to work
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:03
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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TRD not doing it for you?
First you need to take the head off and have it ported and polished.
Then have the cumbustion chamber machined to lower the compression ratio.
While you are then convert to coil on plug.
Oh then you need an ECU.
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
Hehehe.... "cumbustion".
Teeheehee
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:03
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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TRD not doing it for you?
First you need to take the head off and have it ported and polished.
Then have the cumbustion chamber machined to lower the compression ratio.
While you are then convert to coil on plug.
Oh then you need an ECU.
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with the TRD charger but yours is definitely on another level
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Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
Did you want a 2GR or did you want a rotrex 1MZ?
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:33
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:03
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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TRD not doing it for you?
First you need to take the head off and have it ported and polished.
Then have the cumbustion chamber machined to lower the compression ratio.
While you are then convert to coil on plug.
Oh then you need an ECU.
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with the TRD charger but yours is definitely on another level
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Yours needs an exhaust doesn't it?
My original was pony.
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Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
Did you want a 2GR or did you want a rotrex 1MZ?
I wanted any V6.
Unfortunately after the turbo 1zz it wasn't quick enough so Rotrex seemed the way to go.
Then the head gasket went and here we are.
A whole years overtime and a none to happy HWMBO.
Shes getting over it now.
Sort of.
It's been a rough ride for sure.
Smiles are around the corner mate. :) :)
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:41
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:33
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:03
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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TRD not doing it for you?
First you need to take the head off and have it ported and polished.
Then have the cumbustion chamber machined to lower the compression ratio.
While you are then convert to coil on plug.
Oh then you need an ECU.
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with the TRD charger but yours is definitely on another level
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Yours needs an exhaust doesn't it?
My original was pony.
I've got a MK2 MR2 mongoose exhaust but I need a proper Y pipe and manifolds, my current setup is appalling
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:51
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:41
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:33
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:03
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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TRD not doing it for you?
First you need to take the head off and have it ported and polished.
Then have the cumbustion chamber machined to lower the compression ratio.
While you are then convert to coil on plug.
Oh then you need an ECU.
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with the TRD charger but yours is definitely on another level
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Yours needs an exhaust doesn't it?
My original was pony.
I've got a MK2 MR2 mongoose exhaust but I need a proper Y pipe and manifolds, my current setup is appalling
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There you go then. Will make a massive difference.
Get on with it.
Sell a kidney.
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:57
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:51
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:41
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:33
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:03
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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TRD not doing it for you?
First you need to take the head off and have it ported and polished.
Then have the cumbustion chamber machined to lower the compression ratio.
While you are then convert to coil on plug.
Oh then you need an ECU.
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with the TRD charger but yours is definitely on another level
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Yours needs an exhaust doesn't it?
My original was pony.
I've got a MK2 MR2 mongoose exhaust but I need a proper Y pipe and manifolds, my current setup is appalling
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There you go then. Will make a massive difference.
Get on with it.
Sell a kidney.
It'll definitely get it done, but all projects are on hold at the moment. I've got a big extension that needs to be built
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Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 22:21
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:57
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:51
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:41
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:33
Quote from: 1979scotte on February 27, 2019, 21:25
Quote from: Angpozzuto on February 27, 2019, 21:03
That sounds amazing, I want a rotrex now
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TRD not doing it for you?
First you need to take the head off and have it ported and polished.
Then have the cumbustion chamber machined to lower the compression ratio.
While you are then convert to coil on plug.
Oh then you need an ECU.
JUST BUY A 2GR IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with the TRD charger but yours is definitely on another level
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Yours needs an exhaust doesn't it?
My original was pony.
I've got a MK2 MR2 mongoose exhaust but I need a proper Y pipe and manifolds, my current setup is appalling
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There you go then. Will make a massive difference.
Get on with it.
Sell a kidney.
It'll definitely get it done, but all projects are on hold at the moment. I've got a big extension that needs to be built
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Just tell the Mrs you need some 2.5" stainless pipe for the new central heating.
Passed MOT today.
Good news. Time for it to see some roads when they dry up. Andy
Quote from: ayresyboy on March 4, 2019, 19:34
Good news. Time for it to see some roads when they dry up. Andy
Let's get it mapped first
The light is at the end of the tunnel.
Should sound pretty good in the tunnel....
When will mapping be done by?
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 4, 2019, 20:05
When will mapping be done by?
Starts next Monday.
Exciting times ahead, hopefully the final stages now
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 4, 2019, 19:32
Passed MOT today.
Excellent news!
One step closer matey! :)
mapping done in one day hopefully
what sort of numbers are you hoping for?
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 4, 2019, 21:05
what sort of numbers are you hoping for?
300.
Thats all I'm insured for.
Not chasing any records.
It's the torque I want.
It was already faster than a 987.1 Cayman S when it wasn't running right.
so hopefully car back with at the weekend
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 4, 2019, 21:10
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 4, 2019, 21:05
what sort of numbers are you hoping for?
300.
Thats all I'm insured for.
Not chasing any records.
It's the torque I want.
It was already faster than a 987.1 Cayman S when it wasn't running right.
Was that down to Toms poor driving?
Quote from: s12vea on March 4, 2019, 21:16
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 4, 2019, 21:10
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 4, 2019, 21:05
what sort of numbers are you hoping for?
300.
Thats all I'm insured for.
Not chasing any records.
It's the torque I want.
It was already faster than a 987.1 Cayman S when it wasn't running right.
Was that down to Toms poor driving?
Long gearing and it's porky curb weight are the culprits rather than Tom's lack of driving skill.
Am pretty sure Tom's driving blew the head gasket mind.
Won't let him drive it again can't afford a gearbox rebuild.
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 4, 2019, 21:12
so hopefully car back with at the weekend
Not this weekend maybe next.
It's been a long time coming few days here or there don't matter now.
Reliability is the most important thing.
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 4, 2019, 21:20
Quote from: s12vea on March 4, 2019, 21:16
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 4, 2019, 21:10
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 4, 2019, 21:05
what sort of numbers are you hoping for?
300.
Thats all I'm insured for.
Not chasing any records.
It's the torque I want.
It was already faster than a 987.1 Cayman S when it wasn't running right.
Was that down to Toms poor driving?
Long gearing and it's porky curb weight are the culprits rather than Tom's lack of driving skill.
Am pretty sure Tom's driving blew the head gasket mind.
Won't let him drive it again can't afford a gearbox rebuild.
Shall we just blame him for everything...? It makes me feel better
Quote from: s12vea on March 4, 2019, 21:24
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 4, 2019, 21:20
Quote from: s12vea on March 4, 2019, 21:16
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 4, 2019, 21:10
Quote from: KRAMSNEHPETS on March 4, 2019, 21:05
what sort of numbers are you hoping for?
300.
Thats all I'm insured for.
Not chasing any records.
It's the torque I want.
It was already faster than a 987.1 Cayman S when it wasn't running right.
Was that down to Toms poor driving?
Long gearing and it's porky curb weight are the culprits rather than Tom's lack of driving skill.
Am pretty sure Tom's driving blew the head gasket mind.
Won't let him drive it again can't afford a gearbox rebuild.
Shall we just blame him for everything...? It makes me feel better
+1
mine seems to be reliable now
Fair play for persevering, I think I'd have cut my losses way before this point.
Quote from: wotugonado on March 4, 2019, 21:33
Fair play for persevering, I think I'd have cut my losses way before this point.
I wouldn't advise anyone to do it tbh.
If you want big power it's 2zz forced induction or a 2gr.
If you just want a V6 1mz vvti.
Nice to be different though.
Well it's definitely that 8)
All will be forgiven after that first drive.....
Quote from: wotugonado on March 5, 2019, 14:17
Well it's definitely that 8)
All will be forgiven after that first hiccup free drive.....
Fixed that for you
Part and parcel isn't it Scotte. If you think how much time and money I've thrown at a simple turbo conversion, all in all your troubles have been similar if you scale it by the size of the change to stock.
Good news is that you're laying groundworks, doing something different and you're going to end up with something amazing
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 5, 2019, 15:31
Quote from: wotugonado on March 5, 2019, 14:17
Well it's definitely that 8)
All will be forgiven after that first hiccup free drive.....
Fixed that for you
I like it, P. M. A that'll see you through
Trailered away for mapping next week.
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 9, 2019, 14:18
Trailered away for mapping next week.
YES MATE! Get in! :)
When do I get to break it again then hehe
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When do I get to break it again then hehe
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Knob head
You do make me laugh Scotte! :)
Mwah
Sorry I meant break it in. NOT
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Had some technical issues and some differing opinions with the mapper.
Now looking to engage the services of a different mapper.
Hopefully I will be able to afford it.
Nothings easy with this car is it.
What was the issue?
Or is this an april 1st wind up and it all went well?
Oh dear oh dear. How did the conversation go with the differing opinions? Andy
Interested as well. Sorry to hear of the issues. As you know the mapping is key so moving is definitely the best move.
I feel one of my favourite descriptions fits my opinion. Can you guess which description it is Scott?
There is still light at the end of the tunnel with this!
Quote from: ayresyboy on April 1, 2019, 11:23
Oh dear oh dear. How did the conversation go with the differing opinions? Andy
Don't want to get too heavily into it Andy.
Never met the guy which is a serious error on my part.
Wasn't there when the car went on the dyno again a school boy error.
I don't believe I need a 280 LPH fuel pump or 500+ cc injectors to achieve 300bhp on a 3 litre motor.
I can't imagine fuelling would be an issue either for 300bhp.
Lessons will be learnt and I will be finished, light at the end of the tunnel mate for sure
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 1, 2019, 12:38
Quote from: ayresyboy on April 1, 2019, 11:23
Oh dear oh dear. How did the conversation go with the differing opinions? Andy
Don't want to get too heavily into it Andy.
Never met the guy which is a serious error on my part.
Wasn't there when the car went on the dyno again a school boy error.
I don't believe I need a 280 LPH fuel pump or 500+ cc injectors to achieve 300bhp on a 3 litre motor.
Agreed.
Quick calc shows 472cc. But that's assuming 10psi and no RR FPR, a max of 80% duty and 300 at the wheels.
So, you're more likely sub-400cc.
90% duty, RR FPR and 300 at crank is only 320cc
Seen this a lot when we were looking for a tuner; they all have an unhealthy obsession with Walbro pumps and huge injectors.
Good move to shift
Quote from: shnazzle on April 1, 2019, 13:24
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 1, 2019, 12:38
Quote from: ayresyboy on April 1, 2019, 11:23
Oh dear oh dear. How did the conversation go with the differing opinions? Andy
Don't want to get too heavily into it Andy.
Never met the guy which is a serious error on my part.
Wasn't there when the car went on the dyno again a school boy error.
I don't believe I need a 280 LPH fuel pump or 500+ cc injectors to achieve 300bhp on a 3 litre motor.
Agreed.
Quick calc shows 472cc. But that's assuming 10psi and no RR FPR, a max of 80% duty and 300 at the wheels.
So, you're more likely sub-400cc.
90% duty, RR FPR and 300 at crank is only 320cc
Seen this a lot when we were looking for a tuner; they all have an unhealthy obsession with Walbro pumps and huge injectors.
Good move to shift
300 at the flywheel is all I am insured for.
New tuner is deffo the way to go mate.
So much has gone into getting bee6 to this point, I feel you are close to finishing with:
the right people,
doing the right things,
at the right time. :)
Looking forward to seeing and hearing her at DD.
Hopefully some good news Tuesday.
Sounds good..[emoji1303]
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Fingers crossed Scott, you could do with a bit of good luck with this project
So the car went back to Dyno yesterday.
Has had a new fuel pump and injectors fitted.
Long and the short is she made 240bhp 244 ft-lb at the wheels 7 psi boost.
The Dyno corrected this to 295bhp which seems quite a lot but it is what it is and as I am only insured to 300bhp that's where it was called a day.
Being a V6 and using a heavier S series gearbox the losses are always going to be higher than a 1zz and a C6x.
300 @ the wheels is well within reach according to the tuner but I don't believe the transmission could live with that.
Was hoping to get to drive her today but the drivers side driveshaft has now shown it's age so will have to be changed hopefully get that sorted within a week.
Ultimately figures are just a tunning guide and it's how she drives that matters.
Happy Days??
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Quote from: 1979scotte on April 24, 2019, 10:46
So the car went back to Dyno yesterday.
Has had a new fuel pump and injectors fitted.
Long and the short is she made 240bhp 244 ft-lb at the wheels 7 psi boost.
The Dyno corrected this to 295bhp which seems quite a lot but it is what it is and as I am only insured to 300bhp that's where it was called a day.
Being a V6 and using a heavier S series gearbox the losses are always going to be higher than a 1zz and a C6x.
300 @ the wheels is well within reach according to the tuner but I don't believe the transmission could live with that.
Was hoping to get to drive her today but the drivers side driveshaft has now shown it's age so will have to be changed hopefully get that sorted within a week.
Ultimately figures are just a tunning guide and it's how she drives that matters.
Numbers are good and all, but...
The bit I am interested in is how
YOU feel about driving her. That's the report I am looking forward to reading.
That's a lovely curve as it is. I'd be very pleased. Fingers crossed it's what you want it to be when you drive it
Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 24, 2019, 11:23
Happy Days??
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Yes although as I said its how she drives not the figures and I'm yet to drive her.
Quote from: shnazzle on April 24, 2019, 11:37
That's a lovely curve as it is. I'd be very pleased. Fingers crossed it's what you want it to be when you drive it
The HP curve is typical rotrex climbs beautifully in relation to revs.
Yay, progress, shame about the drive shaft but getting there.
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.
Hoping it won't be too long now. There'll be a queue about 40 deep for a ride-along a ding day :D :D
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 24, 2019, 11:23
Happy Days??
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Yes although as I said its how she drives not the figures and I'm yet to drive her.
I get where you're coming from, I'm currently at the point where I'm wanting to drive it but apprehensive about it going pear shaped again.
I don't think any of us will ever be totally happy with our cars but I imagine you grinning from ear to ear the first time you get to boot it one regardless.
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Quote from: cptspaulding on April 24, 2019, 16:42
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.
Well said!
Never know, next time you might beat me around the sprint course with torque like that!
Fingers crossed for you, but I reckon she's all right now. Nothing to it but to drive it!
Quote from: JoeCool on April 24, 2019, 19:11
Never know, next time you might beat me around the sprint course with torque like that!
Fingers crossed for you, but I reckon she's all right now. Nothing to it but to drive it!
Would of beat you last time if it wasn't on T1R and understeering for England ;p
Quote from: cptspaulding on April 24, 2019, 16:42
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.
Hoping it won't be too long now. There'll be a queue about 40 deep for a ride-along a ding day :D :D
Small ones to front. ;)
Quote from: Ardent on April 24, 2019, 21:24
Quote from: cptspaulding on April 24, 2019, 16:42
I am, and I think the whole club is, looking forward to the light at the end of this tunnel.
Hoping it won't be too long now. There'll be a queue about 40 deep for a ride-along a ding day :D :D
Small ones to front. ;)
In the cubby with you
:D
Not much different o virtually being in the binnicale.
I look forward to you review of how it feels when you have driven it. Mine gets new exhaust sillencer and some more dyno on the 4th may
Getting closer to being done. Hope it gets sorted soon.
Light at the end of the very long tunnel!
Home with her and all is well.
First impressions are good but need to get more time behind the wheel.
Great news Scotte. I look forward to seeing it at Ding Day. :)
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 25, 2019, 21:56
Home with her and all is well.
First impressions are good but need to get more time behind the wheel.
Great news Scott!
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Quote from: 1979scotte on April 25, 2019, 21:56
Home with her and all is well.
First impressions are good but need to get more time behind the wheel.
Hello light, goodbye tunnel! :)
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Quote from: 1979scotte on April 25, 2019, 21:56
Home with her and all is well.
First impressions are good but need to get more time behind the wheel.
Hello light, goodbye tunnel! :)
Think it's more thr other way around with that v6, rotrex and exhaust... Helllloooo tunnel
The fun begins now :-*
Any chance of a sound clip vid?
Quote from: Ardent on April 27, 2019, 00:00
Any chance of a sound clip vid?
No it's 2 am
And?
;D
Any updates?
@Ardent (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20018)
@ayresyboy (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14261)
Sorry guys have been busy.
Not had much chance to get the miles in.
Have a small oil leak which we believe to be the rear main.
Want to implement EBC via the ECU not sure just using spring pressure is consistent.
Still a work in progress but happy enough.
Quote from: 1979scotte on May 13, 2019, 11:17
Still a work in progress but happy enough.
glad to hear that
Update Saturday lunchtime.
what kind of update we talking here?
I'm hoping for a good one....
My car has been away again.
Anyone that heard it at ding day would know that she wasn't happy.
New knock sensors have been fitted why not they were 20 years old or more probably. Also these are Bosch recommended by ECUmaster.
New boost control solenoid has been fitted and is directly controlled by the ECU. Again purchased direct from RRR and recommended by ECUmaster.
Several more hours of mapping on and off the Dyno and we finally have a car that can be driven like an MR2 should.
It's cost far more than it should and I would not recommend that any one else try it just put a 2GR in if you want big power.
I'm very happy with it finally after over 2 years of hassles.
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 13, 2019, 13:54My car has been away again.
Anyone that heard it at ding day would know that she wasn't happy.
New knock sensors have been fitted why not they were 20 years old or more probably. Also these are Bosch recommended by ECUmaster.
New boost control solenoid has been fitted and is directly controlled by the ECU. Again purchased direct from RRR and recommended by ECUmaster.
Several more hours of mapping on and off the Dyno and we finally have a car that can be driven like an MR2 should.
It's cost far more than it should and I would not recommend that any one else try it just put a 2GR in if you want big power.
I'm very happy with it finally after over 2 years of hassles.
Fantastic news!
Many problem-free miles wished upon thee. You've certainly earned it
Let the fun commence!
I knew this day would come. Well done for sticking with Bee6, she deserves it.
Now she can pay you back with big smiles.
Best thing I've read all day! Nice one Squirrel!
Ahmen
Good news now enjoy
Glad it's sorted now mate.
Now you can clean it! Haha
Quote from: tricky1138 on July 14, 2019, 10:00Glad it's sorted now mate.
Now you can clean it! Haha
You've met scott before, right? ;) 8)
@tricky1138 @StuC Cheeky bar stewards
Fantastic news, cant wait to see it
Quote from: mikek on July 14, 2019, 20:39Fantastic news, cant wait to see it
Still looks like crap mate just drives better :)
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 14, 2019, 21:02Quote from: mikek on July 14, 2019, 20:39Fantastic news, cant wait to see it
Still looks like crap mate just drives better :)
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Quote from: 1979scotte on July 14, 2019, 21:02Quote from: mikek on July 14, 2019, 20:39Fantastic news, cant wait to see it
Still looks like crap mate just drives better :)
I didnt mean see it, its yellow ffs!😈
I meant hear it and get a ride
Quote from: mikek on July 14, 2019, 21:19Quote from: 1979scotte on July 14, 2019, 21:02Quote from: mikek on July 14, 2019, 20:39Fantastic news, cant wait to see it
Still looks like crap mate just drives better :)
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Quote from: 1979scotte on July 14, 2019, 21:02Quote from: mikek on July 14, 2019, 20:39Fantastic news, cant wait to see it
Still looks like crap mate just drives better :)
I didnt mean see it, its yellow ffs!😈
I meant hear it and get a ride
Why do you want a ride?
To experience torque perhaps?
Talk yes, I like to hear you talk
Quote from: StuC on July 14, 2019, 18:45Quote from: tricky1138 on July 14, 2019, 10:00Glad it's sorted now mate.
Now you can clean it! Haha
You've met scott before, right? ;) 8)
I meant drive! Honest! ;)
Drove to Sywell.
H
Fitted a D&C front strut brace.
Had lunch.
Fitted StuCs kick panels.
Drove home.
Both mods well worthwhile
Car was faultless drank a bit of Shells finest 99 220 odd miles and still some squirt left so could be worse.
So she managed 27 mpg on 90% motorways. I didn't think that was too bad.
How does that compare to yours?
@Topdownman @MR TWO @ayresyboy
Thats better than you had before isnt it?
Havent checked mine recently but the Highland drive was 33mpg overall in 2018. Thats with a little spirited driving, a fair bit of m-way to get up there, plenty of top gear useage but very little stop start traffic!
Quote from: Topdownman on July 15, 2019, 20:39Thats better than you had before isnt it?
Havent checked mine recently but the Highland drive was 33mpg overall in 2018. Thats with a little spirited driving, a fair bit of m-way to get up there, plenty of top gear useage but very little stop start traffic!
27 is disappointing then considering it was all motorways. 33 is damn good for an average on the HD I think I'd be lucky to see 15.
My average is 23!
I definitely get more mpg on the HD than day to day driving. I took the GT86 this year and came back from scotland on one tank of fuel (but had to hypermile the last 60 miles on reserve!). Got 40mpg on that run whereas day to day would normally be 33 max so dont feel too bad.
Just catching up on the thread.
Really pleased for Mrs Ellington first & foremost, & latterly also very chuffed for you & the car ;D
Quick update met up with
@KRAMSNEHPETS and
@SuperArt Had a little drive and a proper transport cafe stop.
Was pleased with the car.
Managed to keep up with the 322 whp 2zz which I was surprised about.
Think it would have been a different matter on track with longer straights but roundabouts are a great equaliser.
Don't think I'll get her out this weekend bit wet for all that torque.
A previously undiscovered 2zz advantage perhaps?
will have to meet up at an airfield!
Think I may take her out for a quick spin actually.
Filled her up with Shells finest.
Looks like I got 22mpg out of those 34 litres.
30 odd blissful twisty miles.
Hardly a cyclist to be seen.
Glad I went out.
Top down obviously.
Well played.
Solid rain here all day.
A 2 less weekend
Quote from: Ardent on July 28, 2019, 17:52Well played.
Solid rain here all day.
A 2 less weekend
Bloody hot here now.
24 indoors. 20 outdoors.
Just been out and done a fence repair and weed membrane under the deck.
Still raining here. Right pants day.
Quote from: Ardent on July 28, 2019, 18:52Still raining here. Right pants day.
Jase, you and Dee should've come to Beaulieu! Awesome 2 weather!
La La La
Not sure Beaulieu and then a night shift would work out too well. :o ;D
OK 151.5 miles covered 35L of shells finest Vpower I work that out at 20mpg. Not ideal.
A small price to pay for all that power
If you moan about mpg again I'll take the car off you! I get under 20 average! 28 is the best I get on the motorway.
Pigs about to go out for some spirited driving.
Quote from: s12vea on August 4, 2019, 08:12A small price to pay for all that power
£50 for 151 miles isn't a small price I'm going to be asking for donations at this rate
Ouch!
Quote from: tomaky on August 4, 2019, 09:19If you moan about mpg again I'll take the car off you! I get under 20 average! 28 is the best I get on the motorway.
Pigs about to go out for some spirited driving.
Yes but you drive like a twat everywhere 😜
100 miles done. Probably £40 but I smiled for every one. Elise didn't 😂
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 4, 2019, 07:43OK 151.5 miles covered 35L of shells finest Vpower I work that out at 20mpg. Not ideal.
It's not too bad.. you're basically in economy V8 driving land...
Quote from: jvanzyl on August 5, 2019, 09:42Quote from: 1979scotte on August 4, 2019, 07:43OK 151.5 miles covered 35L of shells finest Vpower I work that out at 20mpg. Not ideal.
It's not too bad.. you're basically in economy V8 driving land...
Except I'm 500kg lighter than an S4
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 5, 2019, 11:03Quote from: jvanzyl on August 5, 2019, 09:42Quote from: 1979scotte on August 4, 2019, 07:43OK 151.5 miles covered 35L of shells finest Vpower I work that out at 20mpg. Not ideal.
It's not too bad.. you're basically in economy V8 driving land...
Except I'm 500kg lighter than an S4
your foot clearly isn't!
Quote from: jvanzyl on August 5, 2019, 11:21Quote from: 1979scotte on August 5, 2019, 11:03Quote from: jvanzyl on August 5, 2019, 09:42Quote from: 1979scotte on August 4, 2019, 07:43OK 151.5 miles covered 35L of shells finest Vpower I work that out at 20mpg. Not ideal.
It's not too bad.. you're basically in economy V8 driving land...
Except I'm 500kg lighter than an S4
your foot clearly isn't!
John she only gets 27 on the motorway
That's what I get on my S4 on the motorway... maybe it's your gear ratios?
Quote from: jvanzyl on August 5, 2019, 13:01That's what I get on my S4 on the motorway... maybe it's your gear ratios?
70mph 3k rpm in 5th
The ratios aren't the best for this engine they were short before the supercharger 1st is pretty pointless.
The cold start map is ruinous mega rich which doesn't help.
And I assume low compression ratio doesn't help economy either.
You might want to consider going electric >:D
I pulled off in 3rd gear by mistake the other day.
No problem!
Couldnt help thinking I could go from standstill to what, 90mph?*, before I had to change gear!
* Where permissible, obvs.
Quote from: Topdownman on August 5, 2019, 14:17I pulled off in 3rd gear by mistake the other day.
No problem!
Couldnt help thinking I could go from standstill to what, 90mph?*, before I had to change gear!
* Where permissible, obvs.
electric could do that too!!
Add in a CVT
0 to max in one seamless run.
Piss off my thread the lot of you
Thats what my 3mz does.
2x elec motors go assist it. Got to be one of the least stressed engines out there
Quote from: 1979scotte on August 5, 2019, 19:03piddle off my thread the lot of you
Sounds like more pulling off than piddling...🤓
20.4 mpg from the tank before the Essex run out didn't seem much worse whilst pushing on strangely
Good day out apart from
@s12vea describing Bee as agricultural 😢
@1979scotte let me have a drive in been what a beast. Agricultural in a good way ;D
Quote from: s12vea on August 11, 2019, 16:10@1979scotte let me have a drive in been what a beast. Agricultural in a good way ;D
I think you need to explain yourself young man!
I was wondering why I could smell so much fuel/exhaust going round the country lanes. We were following a tractor the whole time.
Quote from: SuperArt on August 15, 2019, 17:44I was wondering why I could smell so much fuel/exhaust going round the country lanes. We were following a tractor the whole time.
Cold map is too rich especially as the car can take 20 mins to warn up. Also fuel is sprayed into the cylinders between spark to keep them cool. All means a lot of wasted fuel.
...and in exchange you get John Deere levels of pulling power. 😉
Not a terrible deal!
Double post. Ops
All cars behind in the convey ran very well due to the extra fuel vapours in the air
Quote from: s12vea on August 15, 2019, 19:52All cars behind in the convey ran very well due to the excuse fuel vapours
What cars behind never saw any ofe you once we left the car park. 😜
Scott very kindly shared his fuel with the rest of us. 😋
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For some reason
@SuperArt this ^^^ sprang to mind!
Think I posted before about my IAT being 60c well that was incorrect tonight I've had another look and I saw peak of 60 through second to 5th changing up at 6k rpm.
The 60 is in Fahrenheit not celcius which means it's 15c this now seems too low ambient tonight is 13c according to the BBC.
Dont know weither to be happy about such low IAT or to question the sensor.
Anyway changing up a 6k rpm as I get belt slip which I will get sorted ASAP I see 8.6 psi boost. Would be surprised if I don't see another 1 psi more minimum with an extra 500rpm and a gripping belt.
Do you need another 1 psi...?
Don't get greedy
Quote from: s12vea on September 4, 2019, 22:46Do you need another 1 psi...?
Don't get greedy
It was dynod at more than 8 psi. The belt slip has just gotten worse.
Fair enough.
Still on of the quickest mr2 I've been in.
Quote from: s12vea on September 5, 2019, 06:51Fair enough.
Still on of the quickest mr2 I've been in.
Did you get a go in Chris's 2gr?
That thing was mental.
With properly sorted suspension and R888 it cornered like nothing else I've been in.
Sadly never went in his car, I've heard it was an animal
Was that a sable ?
OK time to get Bee6 going again just ordered this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NOCO-GB40-UltraSafe-Lithium-Starter/dp/B015TKUPIC?ref_=ast_slp_dp&th=1
Pricey but I've found the my artech one won't start either my 1.6 automatic or the V6 so I thought I'd try something pricier.
As my battery charger has had it too I thought this would cover the bases. We shall see.
@1979scotte , does your continuing quest for more power know no limit?
😉
Quote from: Joesson on January 15, 2020, 12:40@1979scotte , does your continuing quest for more power know no limit?
😉
I think he plans to make it a hybrid......
Quote from: Topdownman on January 15, 2020, 12:59Quote from: Joesson on January 15, 2020, 12:40@1979scotte , does your continuing quest for more power know no limit?
😉
I think he plans to make it a hybrid......
Nah doesn't need anymore lowdown torque.
Quote from: 1979scotte on January 15, 2020, 10:51OK time to get Bee6 going again just ordered this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NOCO-GB40-UltraSafe-Lithium-Starter/dp/B015TKUPIC?ref_=ast_slp_dp&th=1
Pricey but I've found the my artech one won't start either my 1.6 automatic or the V6 so I thought I'd try something pricier.
As my battery charger has had it too I thought this would cover the bases. We shall see.
I've been pondering getting one of these to leave in the car(s) so I'll be interested to hear your experiences. How many amps did you go for?
@househead1000amps.
Overkill for a 1zz but i need something that's works with diesel and my V6 too.
This should crank a 6L petrol or 4L diesel.
I have a small one that you are welcome to have but it would never work with a dead battery on my mums 1.6 auto or my V6.
I've got a "Suaoki G7 Plus Portable 600A, 18000mAh" - but that lives in the Audi - it's useful as a battery pack, air pump, etc.... but it's a pretty chunky bit of kit to lug around in a MR2.
Given that the 600A was enough to jump start various V6 TDI's and also to jump start my V6 petrol (3.0 s'charged) at least 3 times off a single charge, I figured that 600A was plenty juice for an MR2.... but I went for a more compact looking model - the "TACKLIFE T6 Car Jump Starter - 600A 16500mAh Power Pack with Dual USB Charging Ports, LED Flashlight, and 12V Cigarette Lighter Adapter"
I've not given it as much of a thorough testing, but it seems to do all the same stuff as the Suaoki, but in a package that is about a quarter of the size and weighs about a third of the old one...
Quote from: 1979scotte on January 16, 2020, 08:54@househead
1000amps.
Overkill for a 1zz but i need something that's works with diesel and my V6 too.
This should crank a 6L petrol or 4L diesel.
I have a small one that you are welcome to have but it would never work with a dead battery on my mums 1.6 auto or my V6.
I think it's probably worth having one that would start *most* engines, since it might well come in useful for a family members' or friend's (or even a roadside damsel/dame in distress') car before needing to use it myself.
Cheers for the offer but I'll hold out for a "biggie"! :D
I guess that jump leads are too last century for you guys.
Of course, you do need another, similar or larger powered car to use these and I totally get why the modern starter pack appeals but I've managed with jump leads for a long time. As
@headcase suggested, I've likely "rescued" more third party cars than I have my own, which is not very often.
I did start my car, one very cold morning, with the aid of a milk float, plenty of power there.
@JoessonI don't own any jump leads and a decent set would be £20+ I would imagine.
The van and the Focus are a ball ache to access the terminals to jump the 2 or the mr2 support polo.
Received the Noco today impressed with the heft and solidity of the unit. Not proof that it's any better than the cheaper offerings but it feels much better made.
@1979scotte , please realise that my first car also had a starting handle, not that I 'd want to hand crank Bee6(S)!
I totally get why you would want a power pack for your vehicles, if you can't get your van going you are not going to be earning that day. That scenario no longer applies to me and you can't guarantee a milkfloat appearing when you need one
She lives.
Got a lake inside her and some other issues but at least she makes broom broom noises
Good news!
If it leaks, perhaps you need a hard top?........
(runs for cover)
and keep running
Quote from: Topdownman on January 19, 2020, 17:42Good news!
If it leaks, perhaps you need a hard top?........
(runs for cover)
Numpty
Nuff said.
Hi all yes im still alive.
Car is still off the road.
In a sorry state unloved for the past 6 months.
Havent be feeling up to dealing with it.
Sorry if ive been ignoring people but ive been in a bad way.
Hoping ive turned a corner and will be fighting fit soon.
Quote from: 1979scotte on September 5, 2020, 17:55Hi all yes im still alive.
Car is still off the road.
In a sorry state unloved for the past 6 months.
Havent be feeling up to dealing with it.
Sorry if ive been ignoring people but ive been in a bad way.
Hoping ive turned a corner and will be fighting fit soon.
Bliddy great news.
I'm very pleased to hear you feel you're getting better. Obviously use the club as a crutch. Car is secondary
Delighted to hear from you Scotte. I'd be more than happy to do some work on the beast...
@1979scotte Best news I've had in months.
Really made my day.
If you need me, I'm here for you.
Someone to rant at. Whatever. I'm a very good listener.
Quote from: Ardent on September 5, 2020, 20:22@1979scotte
Best news I've had in months.
Really made my day.
I you need me, I'm for you.
Someone to rant at. Whatever. I'm a very good listener.
Can confirm this is true :)
Good to hear from you buddy, my phone is on if you need a chat
Oh Scotte, this is so nice to see you back on line. I've missed you, you know. Take care of yourself. We are all here if you need to chat away, ok
He's alive! Been missing the commentary!
Shout if you need anything..
Quote from: jvanzyl on September 5, 2020, 21:40Shout if you need anything..
Got any spare cash John?
4 or maybe 5 million would do.
Nothing too excessive.
:) hay Scott good to here from you :)
nothing excessive as long as its yellow and has loads of £££££££££££££ ;D
go on you can do it feel the love of all things yellow :) :)
Quote from: 1979scotte on September 6, 2020, 09:07Quote from: jvanzyl on September 5, 2020, 21:40Shout if you need anything..
Got any spare cash John?
4 or maybe 5 million would do.
Nothing too excessive.
Zimbabwean? Sure!
Was thinking bitcoin
wow, thats super nice. still a toyota v6 cant go wrong with that.
Hey...there you are :) :) :)
Welcome back!
Quote from: Chicobala19 on September 6, 2020, 13:48wow, thats super nice. still a toyota v6 cant go wrong with that.
You so can
Unfortunately.
Glad to see you back mate.
Now to get you back to full fitness, then sort out the car!
Good to hear from you Scott.
Echoing all other sentiments - Hope to hear you are fighting fit in the very near future. Car is secondary.
I did offer to buy the car fix it and sell it back. Not sure Scott thought he would get it back hehe
Quote from: tomaky on September 9, 2020, 21:06I did offer to buy the car fix it and sell it back. Not sure Scott thought he would get it back hehe
Not sure it would get fixed with Toms track record
Squeezes. And that'll do, we're not Americans...
my record or an anonymous other? hehe
Got her started today.
First time in 6 months.
New battery needed 3 year old toyota battery dead.
Discovered this.
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Lead to the negative terminal.
Insulation has worn through.
This is due to battery relocation behind rear light.
Lead not long enough is taut on the tray and as the battery isn't fixed has rubbed its self silly.
Quality workmanship
Could of been nasty
Quote from: s12vea on September 28, 2020, 20:00Quality workmanship
Could of been nasty
Especially with the fuel leak i had early in the year that finally put me off driving her.
Standing in a puddle of super unleaded holding jump leads isn't an ideal situation.
Worth having everything checked before you start driving it again, for peace of mind
Quote from: 1979scotte on September 28, 2020, 20:05Standing in a puddle of super unleaded holding jump leads isn't an ideal situation.
That's Funny. But, not funny at all.
Quote from: Ardent on September 28, 2020, 21:06Quote from: 1979scotte on September 28, 2020, 20:05Standing in a puddle of super unleaded holding jump leads isn't an ideal situation.
That's Funny. But, not funny at all.
More an ode to comedy of errors? 😬
Car now with auntie Carolyn.
She believes that the slight fluid leak I've had for a while is the clutch master cylinder.
Which would make sense as you barley find a gear atm.
Thats is all.
After spending over 200 miles in a stock engine roadster I find myself wondering what my reasons were for starting down this path.
I'm really starting to believe that toyota got it right with the TTE turbo. Just that bit of extra torque where you need it.
Similarly a car such as
@Carolyn supercharged example or
@Topdownman 1mz swap would hit the sweet spot.
Kinda wish I hadn't had the compression ratio lowered on my V6 now. Would have been very pleasant just NA. Shame I didn't know a coil pack was blown and I was only running on 5 cylinders. Never have a crystal ball when you need one.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 5, 2020, 21:51After spending over 200 miles in a stock engine roadster I find myself wondering what my reasons were for starting down this path.
I'm really starting to believe that toyota got it right with the TTE turbo. Just that bit of extra torque where you need it.
Similarly a car such as @Carolyn supercharged example or @Topdownman 1mz swap would hit the sweet spot.
Kinda wish I hadn't had the compression ratio lowered on my V6 now. Would have been very pleasant just NA. Shame I didn't know a coil pack was blown and I was only running on 5 cylinders. Never have a crystal ball when you need one.
Having read that.
I find myself feeling both happy and sad at the same time.
I once had a school report. A for effort. E for attainment.
Which is a precursor to what follows.
My knowledge is still pretty much E. But my sincerity is always A.
How difficult/expensive would it be, to Un-lower the compression ratio?
Quote from: Ardent on October 5, 2020, 22:44Quote from: 1979scotte on October 5, 2020, 21:51After spending over 200 miles in a stock engine roadster I find myself wondering what my reasons were for starting down this path.
I'm really starting to believe that toyota got it right with the TTE turbo. Just that bit of extra torque where you need it.
Similarly a car such as @Carolyn supercharged example or @Topdownman 1mz swap would hit the sweet spot.
Kinda wish I hadn't had the compression ratio lowered on my V6 now. Would have been very pleasant just NA. Shame I didn't know a coil pack was blown and I was only running on 5 cylinders. Never have a crystal ball when you need one.
Having read that.
I find myself feeling both happy and sad at the same time.
I once had a school report. A for effort. E for attainment.
Which is a precursor to what follows.
My knowledge is still pretty much E. But my sincerity is always A.
How difficult/expensive would it be, to Un-lower the compression ratio?
Buy a new head in the case of a V6 buy 2. They've been fully rebuilt port and polish aswell seems like throwing good money after bad.
For some unknown reason I thought it was done by swapping pistons.
Quote from: Ardent on October 6, 2020, 07:46For some unknown reason I thought it was done by swapping pistons.
That's the usual way.
This is cheaper.
Pistons on their own would have been £1000++ totally custom job.
Doesnt each coilpack run 2 cylinders?
Quote from: Topdownman on October 6, 2020, 09:18Doesnt each coilpack run 2 cylinders?
Not on mine its not wasted spark is coil on plug.
One of the benefits of stand alone ecu. Much easier to tune.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 05:58Quote from: Ardent on October 5, 2020, 22:44How difficult/expensive would it be, to Un-lower the compression ratio?
Buy a new head in the case of a V6 buy 2. They've been fully rebuilt port and polish aswell seems like throwing good money after bad.
Intrigued in what was done to heads on the V6 to lower compression ratio and by how much ? usually its different pistons or a head spacer used for this so im curious what was done for your car to achieve the drop :)
Quote from: thetyrant on October 6, 2020, 10:07Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 05:58Quote from: Ardent on October 5, 2020, 22:44How difficult/expensive would it be, to Un-lower the compression ratio?
Buy a new head in the case of a V6 buy 2. They've been fully rebuilt port and polish aswell seems like throwing good money after bad.
Intrigued in what was done to heads on the V6 to lower compression ratio and by how much ? usually its different pistons or a head spacer used for this so im curious what was done for your car to achieve the drop :)
You can machine the combustion chamber. Old school. I'd never come across it but was told its a thing.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 5, 2020, 21:51After spending over 200 miles in a stock engine roadster I find myself wondering what my reasons were for starting down this path.
I'm really starting to believe that toyota got it right with the TTE turbo. Just that bit of extra torque where you need it.
Similarly a car such as @Carolyn supercharged example or @Topdownman 1mz swap would hit the sweet spot.
Kinda wish I hadn't had the compression ratio lowered on my V6 now. Would have been very pleasant just NA. Shame I didn't know a coil pack was blown and I was only running on 5 cylinders. Never have a crystal ball when you need one.
Perhaps you felt after a turbo, that you could push the torque envelope.
To be fair to you, the information you were given about the car, it's condition and it's possibilities was not the best.
Ultimately I think you ended up almost having to fire fight to get any kind of result. Additionally your patience was also pushed beyond your limits.
For one, I still believe that Bee can be truly awesome. 👍👍
I would hate to see her go to the scrapper.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 12:22Quote from: thetyrant on October 6, 2020, 10:07Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 05:58Quote from: Ardent on October 5, 2020, 22:44How difficult/expensive would it be, to Un-lower the compression ratio?
Buy a new head in the case of a V6 buy 2. They've been fully rebuilt port and polish aswell seems like throwing good money after bad.
Intrigued in what was done to heads on the V6 to lower compression ratio and by how much ? usually its different pistons or a head spacer used for this so im curious what was done for your car to achieve the drop :)
You can machine the combustion chamber. Old school. I'd never come across it but was told its a thing.
My early recollections in that respect were of cleaning the head chambers and ports and equalising their sizes. Often cast iron heads and they were not as accurately cast as aluminium alloy heads are today. The heads were then typically skimmed which tending to balance out the material cleaned out but generally higher compression was what was sought. Iirc thinner head gaskets were sometimes used.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 12:22You can machine the combustion chamber. Old school. I'd never come across it but was told its a thing.
I did spot some pics further back in thread after i posted of a head which was after machining i presume, looks like there was room to make some more capacity in the head and drop the CR, downside is reduced response and efficiency due to messing up the squish as well as lowering CR, i suppose you could get the heads welded and machined to put it back in but its a lot of effort and £££ to do right, if it works ok as is then no need to meddle and at least its safe for boost, you could maybe get a couple of small turbos on there instead of the Rotrex that would make it mega :D
Quote from: Joesson on October 6, 2020, 14:07Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 12:22Quote from: thetyrant on October 6, 2020, 10:07Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 05:58Quote from: Ardent on October 5, 2020, 22:44How difficult/expensive would it be, to Un-lower the compression ratio?
Buy a new head in the case of a V6 buy 2. They've been fully rebuilt port and polish aswell seems like throwing good money after bad.
Intrigued in what was done to heads on the V6 to lower compression ratio and by how much ? usually its different pistons or a head spacer used for this so im curious what was done for your car to achieve the drop :)
You can machine the combustion chamber. Old school. I'd never come across it but was told its a thing.
My early recollections in that respect were of cleaning the head chambers and ports and equalising their sizes. Often cast iron heads and they were not as accurately cast as aluminium alloy heads are today. The heads were then typically skimmed which tending to balance out the material cleaned out but generally higher compression was what was sought. Iirc thinner head gaskets were sometimes used.
With forced induction lower compression gives you more knock protection.
Possibly unnecessary with modern ecu and wideband sensors but prudent on an unforged engine.
Quote from: thetyrant on October 6, 2020, 14:11Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 12:22You can machine the combustion chamber. Old school. I'd never come across it but was told its a thing.
I did spot some pics further back in thread after i posted of a head which was after machining i presume, looks like there was room to make some more capacity in the head and drop the CR, downside is reduced response and efficiency due to messing up the squish as well as lowering CR, i suppose you could get the heads welded and machined to put it back in but its a lot of effort and £££ to do right, if it works ok as is then no need to meddle and at least its safe for boost, you could maybe get a couple of small turbos on there instead of the Rotrex that would make it mega :D
Fitting anything in that bay is a nightmare.
Wanted to try rotrex done turbos before.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 14:12Quote from: Joesson on October 6, 2020, 14:07Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 12:22Quote from: thetyrant on October 6, 2020, 10:07Quote from: 1979scotte on October 6, 2020, 05:58Quote from: Ardent on October 5, 2020, 22:44How difficult/expensive would it be, to Un-lower the compression ratio?
Buy a new head in the case of a V6 buy 2. They've been fully rebuilt port and polish aswell seems like throwing good money after bad.
Intrigued in what was done to heads on the V6 to lower compression ratio and by how much ? usually its different pistons or a head spacer used for this so im curious what was done for your car to achieve the drop :)
You can machine the combustion chamber. Old school. I'd never come across it but was told its a thing.
My early recollections in that respect were of cleaning the head chambers and ports and equalising their sizes. Often cast iron heads and they were not as accurately cast as aluminium alloy heads are today. The heads were then typically skimmed which tending to balance out the material cleaned out but generally higher compression was what was sought. Iirc thinner head gaskets were sometimes used.
With forced induction lower compression gives you more knock protection.
Possibly unnecessary with modern ecu and wideband sensors but prudent on an unforged engine.
"Take it in top" is my earliest recollection of after market advertising for Shorrocks turbo chargers.
PS. That was referring to a ( Ford) Anglia iirc.
New idler pulley mount
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Bumper off
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And fitted
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Bloody hard work too that was really got a sweat on 😜
@Carolyn
Can't think of a better place for the car to be
Great to see it being logically thought through!
Quote from: shnazzle on October 15, 2020, 22:15Can't think of a better place for the car to be
There is only one other ...
In full working order being driven at ten tenths on a perfect twisty B road in good conditions.
Until then, it is probably the best place it can be!
Quote from: househead on October 15, 2020, 23:02Quote from: shnazzle on October 15, 2020, 22:15Can't think of a better place for the car to be
There is only one other ...
In full working order being driven at ten tenths on a perfect twisty B road in good conditions.
Until then, it is probably the best place it can be!
10/10 on the public roads?
There is a man with a stock 138bhp engine ;)
Look at this.
A battery tray with a clamp.
Ooh.
And wires with insulation on them.
Ahhh.
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I'm working so hard on this Aunty
@Carolyn would be so proud.
Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:25Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
Prosperity? Do you have shares in the company?
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:25Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
'far more superior than'? Oh dear....
Quote from: Carolyn on October 16, 2020, 20:29Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:25Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
'far more superior than'? Oh dear....
Just thinking out loud.
Its already busted the drivers side one. I'm sure there are cheaper options within the UK.
Quote from: SV-3 on October 16, 2020, 20:27Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:25Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
Prosperity? Do you have shares in the company?
Nope but with all the cars I've got i should get some in Shell.
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:44Quote from: Carolyn on October 16, 2020, 20:29Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:25Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
'far more superior than'? Oh dear....
Just thinking out loud.
Its already busted the drivers side one. I'm sure there are cheaper options within the UK.
Pushing a little more weight on that side ?
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:44Quote from: Carolyn on October 16, 2020, 20:29Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:25Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
'far more superior than'? Oh dear....
Just thinking out loud.
Its already busted the drivers side one. I'm sure there are cheaper options within the UK.
I could never buy something from an English language site which is barely distinguishable as such.
"Capable in handling". Lord give me strength :D
I see they do a "1000HP" one too.
What's up with stock? Does that not handle your asbo power levels? :D
Quote from: househead on October 16, 2020, 21:58Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:44Quote from: Carolyn on October 16, 2020, 20:29Quote from: 1979scotte on October 16, 2020, 20:25Just putting this here for prosperity
http://insaneshafts.com/product/is-209/
Uprated engine swap driveshaft drive shaft driveshafts.
'far more superior than'? Oh dear....
Just thinking out loud.
Its already busted the drivers side one. I'm sure there are cheaper options within the UK.
I could never buy something from an English language site which is barely distinguishable as such.
"Capable in handling". Lord give me strength :D
I see they do a "1000HP" one too.
What's up with stock? Does that not handle your asbo power levels? :D
It's not very clear where these shafts are to be used:
From the "installation tips and warranty"notes:
3. INSANE SHAFTS, LLC WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES AS A RESULT OF ANY UNITS INSTALLED ON VEHICLES USED FOR RACING, OFF-ROAD COMPETITIONS AND/OR NON-STANDARD USES
***ALL INSANE SHAFTS PRODUCTS ARE FOR OFF-ROAD USE ONLY.
I think the owners of this business are the "insane shafts" themselves. They just happen to also sell some dodgy car parts without any sort of warranty or guarantee :)
Quote from: househead on October 16, 2020, 23:21I think the owners of this business are the "insane shafts" themselves. They just happen to also sell some dodgy car parts without any sort of warranty or guarantee :)
Theyre American its standard to say everything is for off road use all after market ecu have the same disclaimer.
They're stocked by some uk based distributors but for k20 civic crx etc not mr2.
I would look to source something from the UK first but it is an option.
As said before the drivers side went last year. It was an original pfl shaft and has been replaced with a fl which are a different design. Lets hope that its unnecessary but with over 250 ftlb of torque at the wheels possibly more who knows.
All home with me now and much much better than when it left here on a trailer last year.
Thanks
@Carolyn and David.
That's great news Scotte. ;D
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 11, 2021, 18:27All home with me now and much much better than when it left here on a trailer last year.
Thanks @Carolyn and David.
And Jonbill!!
True club spirit
Carolyn
David
Jonbill
Hands off to you all
Jesus I've owned this car 4 years.
In that time I think I've covered about 10k miles.
That gives you an idea how long it's been off the road for considering in my 06 turbo I did over 5k miles in one year just to ROC events!
I think I took that car from 55k to maybe 80k in 3 or 4 years.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 09:34In that time I think I've covered about 10k miles.
That gives you an idea how long it's been off the road for considering in my 06 turbo I did over 5k miles in one year just to ROC events!
I think I took that car from 55k to maybe 80k in 3 or 4 years.
I guess that's something you almost have to accept with heavily modified cars. I can see the appeal, for when they work they can be awesome. However, they can and often do spend a lot of their time sat in garages unserviceable or requiring constant tinkering to keep running.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 09:34In that time I think I've covered about 10k miles.
That gives you an idea how long it's been off the road for considering in my 06 turbo I did over 5k miles in one year just to ROC events!
I think I took that car from 55k to maybe 80k in 3 or 4 years.
Should be alright now because you have a spare (blue).
Quote from: Joesson on April 13, 2021, 15:28Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 09:34In that time I think I've covered about 10k miles.
That gives you an idea how long it's been off the road for considering in my 06 turbo I did over 5k miles in one year just to ROC events!
I think I took that car from 55k to maybe 80k in 3 or 4 years.
Should be alright now because you have a spare (blue).
Thats a pretty standard car but its been regularly used in all weathers and needs a proper going over with the wire brush. Buckets and shims need doing. Air box returned to stock if possible and maybe even put it on stock suspension rather than coilovers.
116 miles to the top half of the tank I forgot how juicy this thing was.
And I've scared myself twice already.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 15:57Quote from: Joesson on April 13, 2021, 15:28Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 09:34In that time I think I've covered about 10k miles.
That gives you an idea how long it's been off the road for considering in my 06 turbo I did over 5k miles in one year just to ROC events!
I think I took that car from 55k to maybe 80k in 3 or 4 years.
Should be alright now because you have a spare (blue).
Thats a pretty standard car but its been regularly used in all weathers and needs a proper going over with the wire brush. Buckets and shims need doing. Air box returned to stock if possible and maybe even put it on stock suspension rather than coilovers.
and then you'll have a spare.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 16:58116 miles to the top half of the tank I forgot how juicy this thing was.
And I've scared myself twice already.
So that's determined which is the "Beast"
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 16:58116 miles to the top half of the tank I forgot how juicy this thing was.
And I've scared myself twice already.
Sounds like it's running well
Quote from: s12vea on April 13, 2021, 19:49Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 16:58116 miles to the top half of the tank I forgot how juicy this thing was.
And I've scared myself twice already.
Sounds like it's running well
If buy running well you mean too fast for a mere mortal like me to drive then you'd be correct.
It's faster than last you sat in it Steve.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 21:26Quote from: s12vea on April 13, 2021, 19:49Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 16:58116 miles to the top half of the tank I forgot how juicy this thing was.
And I've scared myself twice already.
Sounds like it's running well
If buy running well you mean too fast for a mere mortal like me to drive then you'd be correct.
It's faster than last you sat in it Steve.
It was scary quick then
Quote from: s12vea on April 13, 2021, 21:27Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 21:26Quote from: s12vea on April 13, 2021, 19:49Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 16:58116 miles to the top half of the tank I forgot how juicy this thing was.
And I've scared myself twice already.
Sounds like it's running well
If buy running well you mean too fast for a mere mortal like me to drive then you'd be correct.
It's faster than last you sat in it Steve.
It was scary quick then
That was the weather as much as anything raining and cold. It was bone dry and sunny this afternoon 10 centigrade.
@s12vea we need
@ChrisGB to drive it. He had the fastest road MR2 to my mind unless
@KRAMSNEHPETS rotrex 2zz is quicker.
How fast was matts TX track slag?
That was the fastest car in the club wasn't it?
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 21:56@s12vea we need @ChrisGB to drive it. He had the fastest road MR2 to my mind unless @KRAMSNEHPETS rotrex 2zz is quicker.
How fast was matts TX track slag?
That was the fastest car in the club wasn't it?
It's a tough life, but if you insist, I'll have to drive it!
Mine was making 300bhp / 269lb/ft at the wheels if I remember correctly. What differential are you running?
Quote from: ChrisGB on April 13, 2021, 22:36Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 21:56@s12vea we need @ChrisGB to drive it. He had the fastest road MR2 to my mind unless @KRAMSNEHPETS rotrex 2zz is quicker.
How fast was matts TX track slag?
That was the fastest car in the club wasn't it?
It's a tough life, but if you insist, I'll have to drive it!
Mine was making 300bhp / 269lb/ft at the wheels if I remember correctly. What differential are you running?
It's an S51/54 hybrid transmission as far as I know.
After that I get confused.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 14, 2021, 06:55Quote from: ChrisGB on April 13, 2021, 22:36Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 21:56@s12vea we need @ChrisGB to drive it. He had the fastest road MR2 to my mind unless @KRAMSNEHPETS rotrex 2zz is quicker.
How fast was matts TX track slag?
That was the fastest car in the club wasn't it?
It's a tough life, but if you insist, I'll have to drive it!
Mine was making 300bhp / 269lb/ft at the wheels if I remember correctly. What differential are you running?
It's an S51/54 hybrid transmission as far as I know.
After that I get confused.
I had two setups, the first, when you experienced it, was with a viscous coupling diff, traction was "marginal" but manageable. In the wet, spinning the wheels up in 3rd and 4th was possible. Adjusting rear camber from -3 to -2 degrees helped. Later, I had a Quaife ATB and this had an almost magical ability to provide forward thrust. On cold wet R888R, full throttle in 3rd was often doable, and when it did start to relinquish traction, you always knew what was going on, really progressive. In the dry, full throttle in everything but 1st was easy. The best thing about the ATB though, was the ability of it to make it easy to balance the car on the throttle. Fabulous setup.
:) glad to here you and my sister yellow are both back home and safe now :)
hopefully spend some time together getting back on with each other and all working well :)
good that you have stick with it and now hope that now helps you in others ways as well :) :)
186 miles covered.
39.67 litres of super unleaded.
Works out about 21 mpg.
And 150 them were probably motorway miles.
Saw 8 psi on the gauge today.
Quote from: 1979scotte on April 13, 2021, 21:56@s12vea we need @ChrisGB to drive it. He had the fastest road MR2 to my mind unless @KRAMSNEHPETS rotrex 2zz is quicker.
How fast was matts TX track slag?
That was the fastest car in the club wasn't it?
T400X is running 400bhp 375 lbft and a weapon to drive
Went to the pub
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And it still looks clean after Carolyn's wash ;)
Done over 600 trouble free miles in her this weekend
Can't believe it if I'm honest.
@Carolyn @jonbill Think we may have actually sorted it.
We never did have those bubbles did we?
Next time.
Credit to all involved as I'm sure you gave it some beans on those 600 miles as well.
Quote from: s12vea on July 4, 2021, 16:06Credit to all involved as I'm sure you gave it some beans on those 600 miles as well.
It got ragged mercilessly up and down the bypass.
Now need it handling properly.
@tommyzoom99 and
@hachiroku have theirs spot on.
Quote from: 1979scotte on July 4, 2021, 16:02Done over 600 trouble free miles in her this weekend
Can't believe it if I'm honest.
@Carolyn @jonbill
Think we may have actually sorted it.
We never did have those bubbles did we?
Next time.
"What to you mean 'we' paleface?"
Quote from: Carolyn on July 4, 2021, 19:22Quote from: 1979scotte on July 4, 2021, 16:02Done over 600 trouble free miles in her this weekend
Can't believe it if I'm honest.
@Carolyn @jonbill
Think we may have actually sorted it.
We never did have those bubbles did we?
Next time.
"What to you mean 'we' paleface?"
There's no I in TEAM.
Theres no F in Team by the sound of it!
End of an era.
Bit sad that... But indeed.
Need a a sad button.
Quote from: 1979scotte on December 4, 2021, 16:23End of an era.
Very sad times.
I think you have made the right choice for you though.
:) Good bye my fellow V6 yellow 2 :)
sad times but at least you no were it has gone and what a new adventure it is on now 8)
Nobody can take your memory's of your time in all your 2s and time spent on the forum and all the effort you and the good lady put into all the meets you made it to.
you defiantly put the mileage in and you should how much FUN there can in a 2 :) :) :) :)
Quote from: puma2 on December 5, 2021, 10:33:) Good bye my fellow V6 yellow 2 :)
sad times but at least you no were it has gone and what a new adventure it is on now 8)
Nobody can take your memory's of your time in all your 2s and time spent on the forum and all the effort you and the good lady put into all the meets you made it to.
you defiantly put the mileage in and you should how much FUN there can in a 2 :) :) :) :)
Thanks paul