So I thought it was about time to start a reader's ride on the car as I have owned it for nearly 5 years!
I have always liked MR2s since they first came out but was a very keen cyclist and always needed practical cars so could never really consider a 2 so had lots of small vans, hatchbacks, GTIs etc over the years.
A lot of my friends were into VWs so I decided to buy an old AA van as a second vehicle and convert it into a campervan.
The van and my practical Civic on the way home in 2009.
(https://i.imgur.com/04bzjLT.jpg)
It took me quite a while though to realise that I actually didnt need the "practical" car anymore as I had the van to get bikes in so started thinking about a replacement for the Civic and I started thinking that I had never owned a convertible so hit autotrader. As soon as I spotted a red edition 2, I knew that was the one for me.
I test drove two cars at dealerships first so I could see if I liked them to drive. Both cars were bags of nails though and I never was really considering them but it definitely helped me to recognise a good one when I drove it.
The third car I went to look at was a 48k mile red edition private sale and I knew as soon as I pulled up I was going to have to find a major problem to stop me buying it.
So, this was the car as I got it, a perfectly standard red edition in sable.
(https://i.imgur.com/s7uiQ3q.png)
I foolishly hadnt done my research first though and didnt know about this forum until after I had bought the car. I was pretty worried to find out about the precats so drove carefully until I had them removed for £50 by MR TWOs in Willenhall near Wolverhampton.
I found I was getting over 40 mpg driving this way. I probably havent got that good mpg since though....
Three is definitely too many..
(https://i.imgur.com/5vYS33F.jpg)
It was time to sell the campervan as I realised it was taking up so much time and would probably never be finished. Plus of course the 2 had taken over as the "hobby".
(https://i.imgur.com/cpz1mKc.jpg)
A short while after joining the club it was Ding Day so I arranged to meet up with Loadswine, NathanMR2 and AndyM for the run out to Demon Tweeks. We met at about 8am in light rain and the first thing Nathan said to me was "Your roof is broken is it?". Some things never change!
(https://i.imgur.com/boguwj1.jpg)
I thought I was really cool with my new, completely standard car but going to Ding Day made my car suddenly look very ordinary parked up next to lots of modified cars and I started to think about mods. I went through quite a few changes of mind about what I wanted to do though before I started the mods.
I also didnt want to make changes part way through the insurance year, I wanted to get that years planned mods all added on when I got the quote to stop getting ripped off or admin charges etc.
So the 2 was my daily driver for 2 years and I did about 22k with no problems apart from handbrake cables (obvs!).
More details to follow but they are probably not going to be in chronological order but just as I think of them!
I had my intro thread moved to readers ride this week Simon. I understand why you need to do this thread. ;)
Loving Nathan's comment at your pre-DD drive. Lol. @nathanMR2 (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8595) :)
Haha gotta have the roof down and every opportunity. I miss my car [emoji20]
Nice write up :)
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Excellent write up Simon! Love the pics too.
Enjoyed reading this, can't wait to see the latest puppy photos! Purchasing one is on hold for now by the way for me.🙁
Really looking forward to hearing about how you got from then to now, having seen it last year in the metal. :)
What sort of cycling were/are you into are you a roadie or MTBer? My own MR2 ownership is book-ends lots of time on bikes as was really into time trialling. Sold the Mk2 to get a load lugger and Roadster purchase, though mildly impulsive, also coincides with deciding I'm too long in the tooth - read too slow ;) to race around on 2 wheels anymore. Won't stop riding for fitness and fun but more time to muck around with a 'hobby' car.
Grates on me as well having to pay the insurance company for them to press a couple keys on the keyboard, so as you say, cost effective to do them at a time when they don't want to lose you!
Thanks for the nice comments!
I was into mountain bike and road cycling, these days all road stuff as my mtb has been in a friends garage for 2 years and counting.
I used to be able to get a bike on the boot rack with wheels in the car.
(https://i.imgur.com/Vj4nYj1.jpg)
(Until I fitted a boot spoiler!).
So what was my first mod?
A former member, Bekatee, was making wind deflectors like Mongo's ones so I ordered a small set of those. They are the best bang for buck mod I have done so got lucky with the first one! They push the air behind the driver and make window down driving so much better with much less buffeting. If you are tall, you may need the bigger size but the small size is fine for me.
They just push into the rubber seal on the door.
(https://i.imgur.com/LqfSY63.jpg)
Its a bit harder to get the order right of the next things but I am sure no one is that bothered eh?
I did the usual things like change the gearbox oil to MT90, despite his earlier comments I also added Nathans bushes to the gear linkage (both worthwhile mods), fitted a new head unit and added a reversing camera. I love having a camera, I know its a small car but its so much easier to park when you know how much room you have got!
I managed to get hold of a CG lock, a now discontinued line. They lock the lap belt section of a normal seatbelt whilst allowing the top part to move as normal meaning that you get held in place much better when cornering.
I also got an underbody Matt brace and a front strut tower brace from DD racing. Both gave a noticeable improvement but the Matt brace was by far the biggest improvement. It stiffened up the car and allows the suspension to work better.
(https://i.imgur.com/r3aV11F.jpg)
The tower brace means I have to take the froot lid off to get in it and would have needed the froot plastic cutting so I took it off. This makes greasing the steering UJ a doodle though and would have been necessary anyway as it turned out for a future mod.....
(https://i.imgur.com/Uk9DUC0.jpg)
(ooh, cliffhanger!).
Lol! Patience of a saint - whole bike in, whole bike out for me or it's not happening.
All nice and stiff then...cue actress/bishop joke.
I put on some plain centre caps on the standard wheels and also went from ditchfinder tyres to a set of bridgestone potenzas in standard sizes.
I did the alarm move/ spare wheel flip mod which is definitely worth doing, more storage and a louder alarm, whats not to like?
Somewhere along the way I removed/replaced the badges. I have also been through quite a few gearknobs too.
I bought an ebay short shift kit which I didnt like on my 6 speed face lift cage so went back to standard. I did remove the standard rubber bush mounts on the gear cage so that bolted firmly to the floor with no movement which improved the gear change slightly. This is definitely worth trying if you are trying to improve your gear change.
I have never been a particular fan of the interior and this still something I want to change but I have done a few bits and pieces to it so far.
I sprayed the binnacle gloss black and fitted some ebay rings around the dials.
(https://i.imgur.com/1dOMZ4b.png)
I fitted mazda heater control knobs which look a bit better than the standard things.
I touched up and treated the leather seats and interior with a gliptone kit.
I got a custom Moman fascia from Poland. Fitting that turned out to be a bit of a nightmare but I do like the look of it.
(https://i.imgur.com/PBEtZ5P.png)
I am on my 3rd head unit and the current one is a single din size so I have my reversing camera screen in the top cubbyhole, next to it is the tyrepal tyre pressure monitoring display.
I scratched the horn push emblem so ended up sanding all the paint off that.
Staying with the interior, I thought the ashtray/ cupholder area was a bit of wasted space so thought I would have a go at changing this by making up a new centre console.
There followed quite a few versions of the "how hard can it be?" console build which I include for your entertainment and to stop you making the same mistakes! (Some of you may remember Josh's "CAD" design for his console so I dont feel too embarrassed sharing...).
(https://i.imgur.com/7IVemK2.jpg)
I realised that it was going to be impossible to incorporate the window switches into this completely home-made one.
The answer* was to cut the front of the centre console off and fit a hybrid front section. This also helps with the fact that you cannot have a single long unit because you cant get it in or out.
(https://i.imgur.com/Y7JnVQU.jpg)
Despite the cutout, no real room to use the handbrake!
(Note head unit 2, and oh, is that a new gearknob?
Cut down console (which was also later rubbed down to get all the texture off and then painted gloss black).
(https://i.imgur.com/nfCjuO0.jpg)
Oh, is that another gearknob?
There followed a few more variations;
(https://i.imgur.com/oqyQBDc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WBuYN7u.jpg)
* Well, I say "answer"....
This is the current state of affairs which is not the finished article but will have to do until I get round to a new version. This version holds an awful lot of tools/stuff (in the centre of the car too) so I will keep persevering with this idea.
(https://i.imgur.com/lXNkmsb.jpg)
Yes, you're right, that is a new gearknob.
Apparently size does count so I am now running the ebay short shift kit again (which works better with the 5 speed gearbox I have now) with a 3" extension on top and all nicely topped off with a 5" gearknob. The extension is hidden by some 22mm copper pipe sprayed silver as it looks weird otherwise. Despite the look of it, the throw is not that long and its near to your hand.
(To quote Steve at D1, "it makes more sense when you drive it").
My what a whopper of a......... I'll stop there :)
Reminds me of the modified American muscle car gear sticks.
Despite the low mileage of 48k when I bought it, it needed new suspension so MeisterR coilovers were duly fitted along with some new brake bits including HEL braided lines.
(https://i.imgur.com/oMXqNhu.jpg)
The coilovers make the handling so much better but they are firm on broken/ poor surfaces. I love B roads so did also try briefly new KYBs and Tein lowering springs and was surprised about how close the feel of the coilovers was (ie the standard shocks were probably only slightly more comfortable).
I guess this could be because people compare old floppy suspension against their new coilovers rather than against new standard. Ultimately the adjustability of the Coilovers for damping and ride height meant they went back on though and at least I know what I am missing.
I took the opportunity to freshen up the wheel arches with hammerite.
(https://i.imgur.com/Sy4WFzn.jpg)
Thats better!
(https://i.imgur.com/MhnD8Be.jpg)
Sound deadening was fitted in the doors (I used Wickes flashband) and focal speakers fitted. I made up some mdf brackets to mount the new speakers and painted them to stop them soaking up moisture. This does make the doors sound better shutting and improves the speaker sound quality.
(https://i.imgur.com/jwR2OZt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z7PR1yf.jpg)
I have to say, I was a bit underwhelmed by the focals as they do not go very low in bass frequencies.
When I finally got round to fitting an under dash powered sub, they did at last sound good (you still cant hear any music above motorway speed mind).
There is not much room under there and very few mount points so I ended up making a platform that would give me mount points exactly where I needed them.
I went for the Kenwood KSC-SW11 powered sub. Fitting that was a nightmare job, seat out, lying on my back with feet sticking up in the air or in the bins and having to try to take every tool or part I would need before I wormed my way into position.
(https://i.imgur.com/Etrn9wy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ojKJtlO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bzOwrXp.jpg)
I used one of those flexible rubber coated things you use to fasten things on roof racks with, like a big twist wrap to hold the heavy sub in place so I had 2 hands to bolt it in place but after firing it up and getting a rattle from the sub, I ended up wrapping it around the middle of the sub and leaving it there where it has stopped the vibration nicely!
Quote from: Topdownman on March 31, 2018, 16:19
Sound deadening was fitted in the doors (I used Wickes flashband) and focal speakers fitted. I made up some mdf brackets to mount the new speakers and painted them to stop them soaking up moisture. This does make the doors sound better shutting and improves the speaker sound quality.
(https://i.imgur.com/jwR2OZt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z7PR1yf.jpg)
I have to say, I was a bit underwhelmed by the focals as they do not go very low in bass frequencies.
When I finally got round to fitting an under dash powered sub, they did at last sound good (you still cant hear any music above motorway speed mind).
There is not much room under there and very few mount points so I ended up making a platform that would give me mount points exactly where I needed them.
I went for the Kenwood KSC-SW11 powered sub. Fitting that was a nightmare job, seat out, lying on my back with feet sticking up in the air or in the bins and having to try to take every tool or part I would need before I wormed my way into position.
(https://i.imgur.com/Etrn9wy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ojKJtlO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bzOwrXp.jpg)
I used one of those flexible rubber coated things you use to fasten things on roof racks with, like a big twist wrap to hold the heavy sub in place so I had 2 hands to bolt it in place but after firing it up and getting a rattle from the sub, I ended up wrapping it around the middle of the sub and leaving it there where it has stopped the vibration nicely!
Mine's mounted much higher up in the big gap behind the dashboard, I made a couple of straps out of the stainless banding and lined them with dynamat type material, snug as a bug! So far at least..
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Is it possible the door speakers are just touching the doorcard? That can make a difference to the sound from them
When I fitted mine I used the stock speaker surrounds, gutted the stock speaker, mounted the pioneer speaker to the plastic stock surround and refitted the stock MDF ring on top. Had a slight fouling of the doorcard on the surround so trimmed the little plastic ring on the doorcard side for a perfect fit. Result is the speaker is not losing any sound inside the doorcard as all is directed (snug fit) into the car
I also flashed the inner door skin covering the holes creating a bit more of an enclosure for the mid range speaker
I wish I'd taken pictures
Quote from: Topdownman on March 31, 2018, 16:19
Sound deadening was fitted in the doors (I used Wickes flashband) and focal speakers fitted. I made up some mdf brackets to mount the new speakers and painted them to stop them soaking up moisture. This does make the doors sound better shutting and improves the speaker sound quality.
(https://i.imgur.com/jwR2OZt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z7PR1yf.jpg)
I have to say, I was a bit underwhelmed by the focals as they do not go very low in bass frequencies.
When I finally got round to fitting an under dash powered sub, they did at last sound good (you still cant hear any music above motorway speed mind).
There is not much room under there and very few mount points so I ended up making a platform that would give me mount points exactly where I needed them.
I went for the Kenwood KSC-SW11 powered sub. Fitting that was a nightmare job, seat out, lying on my back with feet sticking up in the air or in the bins and having to try to take every tool or part I would need before I wormed my way into position.
(https://i.imgur.com/Etrn9wy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ojKJtlO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bzOwrXp.jpg)
I used one of those flexible rubber coated things you use to fasten things on roof racks with, like a big twist wrap to hold the heavy sub in place so I had 2 hands to bolt it in place but after firing it up and getting a rattle from the sub, I ended up wrapping it around the middle of the sub and leaving it there where it has stopped the vibration nicely!
Ere? Where are your tweeters? Are they stuck to the door cards or have you done away with them?
Do you have high/low pass filters in place too? I'm still tweaking the settings on mine but since I matched the head unit and sub up with some basic filter settings the difference is night and day.
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I have tweeters which come with the focal kit and they just replaced the originals, if you look on top of the polystyrene crash foam at the bottom rear of the door card you can just see the crossover.
My problem with the speakers was they just dont go low enough (60hz I think), it was only when I got the powered sub and could send the lower frequencies to the sub that it actually started to sound quite good.
Quote from: Topdownman on April 1, 2018, 11:18
I have tweeters which come with the focal kit and they just replaced the originals, if you look on top of the polystyrene crash foam at the bottom rear of the door card you can just see the crossover.
My problem with the speakers was they just dont go low enough (60hz I think), it was only when I got the powered sub and could send the lower frequencies to the sub that it actually started to sound quite good.
I wondered if that's what the extra wiring and blocks were, I've got a Kenwood head unit that matches up with the sub and all driven by RCA cables and the HU itself so didn't have to faff around with adding the crossovers inline thankfully!
I don't know what the lower limits of (what I'm assuming are still stock) mine are so it's all experimental from here, helps if you don't keep accidentally changing stuff on the remote too![emoji23]
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At some stage I realised that while I loved this car I wanted more overtaking power. I remember one particular drive following a Zafira on a twisty road, they would just pull away from me as soon as the road straightened out and I struggled to find somewhere to get past for a few frustrating miles.
So, do I get a boxster or Z4 with more power or modify the 2? And if I modify it, what were my choices? 2ZZ, turbo or V6? I knew I couldnt do it myself so that meant paying someone which, to me at least, meant V6. (The more sensible option probably would have been to watch the cars for sale section and buy one that another forum member had done but I never thought of that one until later).
I did test drive a Z4 but it was a completely different type of car and not what I was looking for. The boxster would have been nearer to what I wanted but I like the fact that I can use all the power of my car more of the time and it feels exciting at much lower speeds. I also thought the owners club was probably much nicer....
Having made my decision to go V6, I knew I would be without the car for a while and didnt want it to be my sole daily driver so I bought an Ibiza cupra tdi as my daily (not one of my better car choices despite that engine).
So, the 3 steps to heaven, wait about 9 months for a slot in the workshop then;
1
(https://i.imgur.com/3DVugRl.jpg)
2
(https://i.imgur.com/XFpX4TU.jpg)
3
(https://i.imgur.com/dGHFT3c.jpg)
Sounds so simple. Wrong! Still, it was worth it all in the end and it will be nice when it is finished.
They'll all be nice when they're finished.
When will they be finished?
Who knows.
I revisited my sound proofing after the engine swop using "silent coat" this time which is more expensive than the flash band but better as the top layer is more rigid so should be able to stop movement of the panels more. I focused on the rear of the car and the floor and this really helped keep out some of the mechanical and road noise.
(https://i.imgur.com/26N2RJk.jpg)
My vinyl roof was looking quite patchy and didnt fold down as well I would have liked so a trip to Jack Smiths in swansea was booked in for a fabric one.
Those of a nervous disposition can look away now.
(https://i.imgur.com/39Uwfhr.jpg)
Looking much better afterwards.
(https://i.imgur.com/hQnCxIJ.jpg)
I found a couple of pictures of the focal speakers compared to the standard ones;
(https://i.imgur.com/Y5GoYic.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9aA8fgm.jpg)
I had been wondering what to do with my wheels, like all of them there was some corrosion leading to blistering under the paint. I was trying to decide whether to have a refurb and if so what colour. Bernie posted a link to a Demon Tweeks offer on Team dynamics pro race 1.2s and for once, the colour I wanted was the cheapest one in gloss black. These wheels are also pretty light, as well as being, well, pretty so decision made.
I went for the standard 15 & 16" but both are 7" so ½" wider than standard on the front. Picking the offset was harder and I eventually went for ET35 front and rear (rather than standard 45) as I wanted to fill the arches/ widen the track. This proved to be a bit too much on the rear though and ET38 would have been much better on the rear as I got a slight rubbing over big compressions. I had to roll the rear arches which has just about got them right now.
My current tyres are Yokohama AD08rs (both front and rears 10mm wider than standard). These replaced standard size Bridgestone potenzas and these are noticeably better.
With the new boots.
(https://i.imgur.com/RUcrhKR.jpg)
I need to do something with that body though!
So, time to do something with the body at last. Due to an inconsiderate badger (I think, after a forensic examination of the hairs stuck in the wheel), it didnt stop to swop insurance details, I had a cracked front bumper so I was on the lookout for a replacement. I didnt mind if it was pre facelft or facelift and a pfl one came up first. This was fitted with an HZ altezza front lip. I went for the GB kit style side skirts and rear spats from Glass fibre products.
(https://i.imgur.com/6E0LI4q.jpg)
Fitting the side skirts took a fair bit of fettling to go on as they were a bit short for my car, I suppose the way your wings are fitted can mean some are wider than others (wheel arch to wheel arch)?
After trimming them and sanding down the insides of the front and rear edges I got them on, they were then secured with 3 self tappers through the skirt and into the wheel arch, once happy with the fit, I took them off, applied tiger seal to the top and bottom and then screwed them back on and left them to set.
(https://i.imgur.com/7v6N5az.jpg)
Once set, I applied tiger seal to the top to fill any gaps and then touched that up with a paint brush and touch up paint.
(https://i.imgur.com/t7RSKhc.jpg)
I later added on some homemade mudguards to cover the fittings at the end of the skirts and spats.
At the rear, a JDL? style spoiler from ebay went on.
(https://i.imgur.com/HU9MmWe.jpg)
I then fitted rubber skirts to the front and sides.
(https://i.imgur.com/AlaTT18.jpg)
These have saved me some damage a few times as I have scraped over kerbs as the front is pretty low. It makes a horrible noise though as you scrape along!
Quote from: Topdownman on April 14, 2018, 08:11
So, time to do something with the body at last. Due to an inconsiderate badger (I think, after a forensic examination of the hairs stuck in the wheel), it didnt stop to swop insurance details, I had a cracked front bumper so I was on the lookout for a replacement. I didnt mind if it was pre facelft or facelift and a pfl one came up first. This was fitted with an HZ altezza front lip. I went for the GB kit style side skirts and rear spats from Glass fibre products.
(https://i.imgur.com/6E0LI4q.jpg)
Fitting the side skirts took a fair bit of fettling to go on as they were a bit short for my car, I suppose the way your wings are fitted can mean some are wider than others (wheel arch to wheel arch)?
After trimming them and sanding down the insides of the front and rear edges I got them on, they were then secured with 3 self tappers through the skirt and into the wheel arch, once happy with the fit, I took them off, applied tiger seal to the top and bottom and then screwed them back on and left them to set.
(https://i.imgur.com/7v6N5az.jpg)
Once set, I applied tiger seal to the top to fill any gaps and then touched that up with a paint brush and touch up paint.
(https://i.imgur.com/t7RSKhc.jpg)
I later added on some homemade mudguards to cover the fittings at the end of the skirts and spats.
At the rear, a JDL style spoiled from ebay went on.
(https://i.imgur.com/HU9MmWe.jpg)
I then fitted rubber skirts to the front and sides.
(https://i.imgur.com/AlaTT18.jpg)
These have saved me some damage a few times as I have scraped over kerbs as the front is pretty low. It makes a horrible noise though as you scrape along!
The GB skirts are an appalling fit aren't they? The I'm having a nightmare with the ones I got, like yours they're just not long enough, one of those jobs where I'm now that far in it's too late to give up.
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Great looking car. Sables look the dogs dooberies fully kitted up imo.
Has anyone let the kit manufacturer know they're a poor fit ?
Quote from: wotugonado on April 14, 2018, 09:55
Great looking car. Sables look the dogs dooberies fully kitted up imo.
Has anyone let the kit manufacturer know they're a poor fit ?
To be honest I got mine second hand, as new but can't remember who the manufacturer was.
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I got the skirts from Nigel in the affiliates section. I suppose they were moulded from plastic ones and so the wider GF causes a problem? I dont think there would be much he could do about that?
I got a mate to come round to give me a hand as I thought i would need a 2nd pair of hands as you cant easily hold both ends on together yourself as they spring off the car. We held it up and he said thats never going to fit, send it back and left me to it!
I obviously persevered and just kept sanding more and more off the inside until they fit. Its easy to sand, I was just a bit afraid of going too far. As soon as you can get one end attached with a screw it is easier to see how much further you have to go.
Inspired by Leethesparky, I decided to add some Jaguar XKR vents to the bonnet.
They look great (to me), I thought they would improve airflow over the radiator and reduce front end lift at speed.
This does require leaving out the under bonnet plastic though so the air can flow. I had no worries about that but did wonder how much water would get in there.
I went for the abs plastic vents rather than fibreglass so that they could be glued in place with weights on so they would follow the line of the bonnet and not stick up as one end as I thought the FG ones would do.
It is quite hard to decide on a position for these as there are not many easy points of reference when marking your position. The best one was probably the swage line on the bonnet.
Lots of measuring ensued before the angle grinder came out!
(https://i.imgur.com/vqI3TKq.jpg)
The tight corners were drilled and filed to get the shape. The vents have a bit of overhang so there was some leeway for final positioning.
(https://i.imgur.com/4mj9dOl.jpg)
If cutting the first was bad, the second was worse as it has to match the first one!
(https://i.imgur.com/t8P91yI.jpg?1)
The vents are glued in with Tigerseal and the bonnet was treated to a respray by Andy, the paint guy.
The water coming in is not a problem and there is sometimes a bit of water on the froot lid but nothing that worries me. I suppose some water must get in the strengthening piece under the bonnet but I have never noticed any so not sure if it drains away or evaporates?
Deffo needs an outdoor shot of the painted vents mate. Justsayin'
Here you go;
(https://i.imgur.com/jV5z2S7.jpg)
The front has a home made de-impalator made from fibre glass.
(https://i.imgur.com/0JKdXzO.jpg)
This was moulded on the bumper then filled and painted. I would make this a bit thicker if I ever do it again and weight it down while it went off so it followed the curve of the bumper better.
I have also cut out some of the plastic grille and then put aluminium mesh on top of that.
Quote from: Topdownman on April 2, 2018, 10:17
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(https://i.imgur.com/dGHFT3c.jpg)
Sounds so simple. Wrong! Still, it was worth it all in the end and it will be nice when it is finished.
Details please! Which engine? Which gearbox? Cost? What was included in that cost? What else was involved?
OK, so in no particular order and to the best of my knowledge, the V6 conversion involves the following;
A 1MZ engine from a Camry, 2998cc, there is also a 1MZ VVTI engine from a Lexus (RX300?) which can be used but costs much more for the donor car.
An inspection hatch is created in the rear firewall to allow access to the front bank of cylinders.
(https://i.imgur.com/nO6D0xw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gTeI0GQ.jpg)
The rear subframe is "notched" to clear the gearbox and exhaust.
(https://i.imgur.com/4CxuKTQ.jpg)
The car runs 2 ECUs.
(https://i.imgur.com/26N2RJk.jpg)
There is an additional engine mount on the drivers side of the engine bay.
The top of the rear cross member is cut out between the rear suspension turrets and reworked for the larger engine.
A 5 speed gearbox from a Mk2 MR2 is used (ST202?) with a longer 5th gear installed as the ratios give a lower top speed than a 1ZZ.
A Mk2 MR2 turbo/NA hybrid clutch is used (and is nice and light).
I had my LSD transferred across to the new set up.
The battery needs to be relocated, mine is in the Froot but they can also go on the top of the rear cross member.
(https://i.imgur.com/dxcn8xc.jpg)
A larger capacity Mishimoto radiator is fitted.
A custom exhaust and sport cat is needed.
A cone filter is needed due to the space issues.
(https://i.imgur.com/Nb7C3EF.jpg)
The place that did my conversion are no longer doing them. As far as I know, the only people who may still do this conversion would either Patrick Chambers (Headcase on the forum) or Rogue Motorsoport. At the time I had mine done, the cost was only slightly higher than Whifbitz would have charged to do a complete turbo installation.
This is lovely :D
So, thought I had better do an update as its been a while. I have been very busy this year and not had much time to play with the car. That hasnt stopped me buying stuff so have a number of bits to go on at some stage next year.
I did get lost on my way to the grout shop this morning and ended up in Wales somehow.
(https://i.imgur.com/Weic4sj.jpg)
One thing I discovered I need to sort out before the next winter top-down run is the heater control knob. I have a set of the mazda style ones but as you need a fair bit of force for the left hand knob for the heater direction, it has rounded off. This means that I cannot change the direction off demist only so cant get any heat on me! Brrrr.
Very nice out there this morning though.
(https://i.imgur.com/FsDfVqB.jpg)
That second pic is stunning Simon
That's not how I remember Wales in winter!
Quote from: jonbill on December 30, 2018, 20:23
That's not how I remember Wales in winter!
Nor most of the year!
OK, well spotted, the first picture was in Wales and the second back in England!
With the Highland Drive rapidly approaching it was time to try to get the car running today as I have been having starting issues and it hasnt been running for a week or two.
The battery has been running down as it hasnt been used much for months but it is only 2 years old so I was hoping that wasnt the problem. After charging it last weekend, it was OK when I ran a load test. I decided to have a look at the starter motor connection today. I was very relieved to find that while not actually loose, I could tighten it up quite a bit so was hopeful that when the battery was charged up again it would start.
To get to the starter, I took off the air intake pipe and discovered that the last time I had cleaned the MAF, the rubber gasket had sagged at the bottom (the bit you cant see) when I put it back together meaning air would have been getting in there. Cleaned the MAF and seated the gasket properly this time.
I could see my catch can had about 2-3" of erm, contents, so decided to empty it and fit the silicone hoses to replace the manky ones.
Not quite enough to make a pot noodle but not far off.
(https://i.imgur.com/eRPAjp0.jpg)
The engine bay looks a little better now.
(https://i.imgur.com/t8z32WH.jpg)
I think thats everything, oh yes, the car started 1st time....
Quote from: Topdownman on March 31, 2019, 15:06
With the Highland Drive rapidly approaching it was time to try to get the car running today as I have been having starting issues and it hasnt been running for a week or two.
The battery has been running down as it hasnt been used much for months but it is only 2 years old so I was hoping that wasnt the problem. After charging it last weekend, it was OK when I ran a load test. I decided to have a look at the starter motor connection today. I was very relieved to find that while not actually loose, I could tighten it up quite a bit so was hopeful that when the battery was charged up again it would start.
To get to the starter, I took off the air intake pipe and discovered that the last time I had cleaned the MAF, the rubber gasket had sagged at the bottom (the bit you cant see) when I put it back together meaning air would have been getting in there. Cleaned the MAF and seated the gasket properly this time.
I could see my catch can had about 2-3" of erm, contents, so decided to empty it and fit the silicone hoses to replace the manky ones.
Not quite enough to make a pot noodle but not far off.
(https://i.imgur.com/eRPAjp0.jpg)
The engine bay looks a little better now.
(https://i.imgur.com/t8z32WH.jpg)
I think thats everything, oh yes, the car started 1st time....
Beautiful. I look forward to following you around on our holidays, although I think you need a splash of blue in there for some balance...
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John, no, just no!
Quote from: Topdownman on March 31, 2019, 16:15
John, no, just no!
Words fail me...
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So, work is continuing trying to get the car ready for the Highland Drive.
Oil and filter change and new discs and yellowstuff pads fitted.
(https://i.imgur.com/oKN1BcR.jpg)
Got the cheap voltmeter fitted and wired up to help me keep an eye on the condition of the battery too.
(https://i.imgur.com/KevPrql.jpg)
Still a fair number of things on the list of stuff I would like to do though.
Hopefully now sorted out the issues that were throwing up error codes.
The offset spanner worked a treat on the coolant temperature sensor.
(https://i.imgur.com/OkbmwYd.jpg)
The offset O2 sensor socket wasnt so useful but I got it swopped over using a good old fashioned adjustable in the end.
(https://i.imgur.com/MywVRfT.jpg)
The error codes stopped me taking the car to Scotland though but luckily the back up vehicle performed well!
(https://i.imgur.com/zCpf6XP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h3TepNB.jpg)
At first glance I thought that was a BGW on the Lotus.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on May 11, 2019, 18:48
At first glance I thought that was a BGW on the Lotus.
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Pretty sure it is.
Quote from: Topdownman on May 11, 2019, 23:12
Quote from: Call the midlife! on May 11, 2019, 18:48
At first glance I thought that was a BGW on the Lotus.
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Pretty sure it is.
The bench in front of it I mean, your red looks well though.[emoji1303]
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Oh, its a bench!
A couple of pics from Ding Day.
(https://i.imgur.com/v86hU2j.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5h3yYCQ.jpg)
Not that I am biased or owt, but your PFL bumper and spat combo do look purposeful and cool. 8) 8)
Not to mention the ground hugging under lip.
A nice picture from the Jap performance show the other week.
I was rather pleased to find a card under my wiper blade when I left saying I had been selected and invited to join Exclusive JDM, a premium car club. Little things eh!
(https://i.imgur.com/vxsMQs5.jpg)
Quote from: Topdownman on August 25, 2019, 09:35A nice picture from the Jap performance show the other week.
I was rather pleased to find a card under my wiper blade when I left saying I had been selected and invited to join Exclusive JDM, a premium car club. Little things eh!
(https://i.imgur.com/vxsMQs5.jpg)
Whereas I had one from a supplier of random stuff to stick to it, can't understand it really...
Yours was well deserved though...
You are too kind John!
So, having failed to take advantage of StuCs group buy, I set out to make my own kick panels.
Nothing particularly hard about the job but it is not quick (well, the way I work anyway).
Making the panels starts off with cardboard templates which then get copied in plywood. This is what took me the most time as I was trying to keep them as big as possible so lots of shaving bits off here and there until I was happy with the fit. Both sides are different so no short cuts!
(https://i.imgur.com/dM3BupM.jpg)
Next step, trim the automotive carpet to shape, this takes some time too to try and get them right so I didnt need to do any trimming once the glue was on.
(https://i.imgur.com/qcDnJO7.jpg)
Glue both sides, let it touch dry then the moment of truth, can you get the panel in the right place with the contact adhesive!
(https://i.imgur.com/ghk7Mhb.jpg)
Then glue the back of the edge of the panel. Good job no-one will ever see this side...
(https://i.imgur.com/bAKM3Uq.jpg)
Then pop them in the car.
(https://i.imgur.com/ByOOV0a.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g6H0bsH.jpg)
I am very happy with the result, they really do look way better to my eyes.
The passenger side one springs out at the back so I took a cable hook, took out the nail and drilled it out to get a screw in there which I screwed to the air outlet pipe to keep it in place (not the best picture but my cmaera cant seem to focus on carpet for some reason!).
(https://i.imgur.com/XCZHa6D.jpg)
Oh, 373 gms all in!
Very nice Simon. And now you know how much work it is for StuC and Mrs StuC
@Topdownman good job fella. Well done for having a go. I agree with you that it's not difficult, but it is time consuming.
Cheers Guys. I must have spent something stupid like 8-10 hours over 3 days doing them so its a labour of love for sure.
If Stu fires up his group buy again, I would advise everyone to take him up on it straightaway!
Quote from: Topdownman on August 25, 2019, 09:35I had been selected and invited to join Exclusive JDM.
Just Dandy Men?
Mmm,Jason, that sounds like something that I should not google!
Quote from: Ardent on August 25, 2019, 18:27Quote from: Topdownman on August 25, 2019, 09:35I had been selected and invited to join Exclusive JDM.
Just Dandy Men?
Perhaps it's an obscure convertible reference...
Joist Down Motoring?
Some kind of "wood" reference? ;)
Got round to taking the rear heat shield off yesterday,
(https://i.imgur.com/qTiGoJ1.jpg)
Very pleased with the improved visibility/access. I can now see the oil leak from a rocker cover and how the heat of the exhaust is burning through the paint on the arb in a couple of places where they are close to each other. Oh, and is that evidence of an exhaust leak too? Looking forward to improved airflow and no melting bumper!
After the trip to the Yakushi show last weekend and an incident involving going over a level crossing too fast, it was a good time to swop front bumpers for a bit.
(https://i.imgur.com/yHzzYfP.jpg)
This gave me a chance to admire my bumper collection.
(https://i.imgur.com/qdmzDjJ.jpg)
Thats a top secret on the left, pfl with front lip and rubber strip and fl on the right. The height difference is something like 55mm between the TS and fl bumpers!
The photo reminds me of one of of evolution type pictures. It seems to be going backwards though!
Thank you!
The exhaust is a treat for the eye and the bumpers intersting and enlightening. Hope a reapir is not too much of a hassle.
Really like this build, it's got me looking for V6's coming up in the classifieds!
You wouldnt be the first turbo owner to be lured away by a couple of extra cylinders!
Not sure the temporary look of low side skirts with standard front and rears is working for me though,,,
(https://i.imgur.com/heKNQUF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xdvrqTi.jpg)
Just wanted to pop this old photo on this thread so I can find it.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ZJstJr.jpg)
If you have another engine fitted in the car and the yellow fuse (rear fusebox) blows, the engine cranks but wont start. This happened to me and a 2zz conversion and in both cases, the AA couldnt find the fault.
The car wouldnt start yesterday so I took it out to check but then put it back in the wrong place!
Will make a very handy anti theft plan if leaving the car for a while though..
Quote from: Topdownman on September 22, 2019, 14:03You wouldnt be the first turbo owner to be lured away by a couple of extra cylinders!
Who you talking about?
Can't be me.
I was lured away by torque. 😜
You may have popped into my head Scott, or maybe I was thinking about Loadswine?!
Just come home in the hybrid.
(https://i.imgur.com/HOJG0Vw.jpg)
Its going to be the my transportation for the next week.
It seems January is my engine out and strip down month.
At least I wont have to pay for the GT86 as that is a recall.
The MR2 on the other hand....
So engine out and strip down on the GT86? But how's the V6 coming along? As much as I'll miss the little puffs I'll be much happier when it's running as it should.
Is that the corrola?
Rather like those. On my long term radar for when i can afford a 100k miles second hand one.
There is a valve spring recall on the early 86s so the engine has to come out to replace them with different springs.
The V6 had valve stem guides that were like plastic and glazed bores. The heads are being skimmed and pressure tested, the bores will be honed with new rings and new valve stem seals. The card head gaskets will be replaced with metal ones.
Hopefully will be finished soon and then all should be good I hope!
Yes, its a 1-8 corolla cvt. Its not the worst courtesy car I've had and feels reasonably quickish for 10.9 to 62. Not sure on the steering though!
I'll be taking steps to try and reduce the noxious output from mine too in time for this season, I appreciate it can't be pleasant traveling behind me at times 😂.
Quote from: Call the midlife! on January 25, 2020, 12:49I'll be taking steps to try and reduce the noxious output from mine too in time for this season, I appreciate it can't be pleasant traveling behind me at times 😂.
Are we still talking about the car?
Quote from: Topdownman on January 25, 2020, 13:42Quote from: Call the midlife! on January 25, 2020, 12:49I'll be taking steps to try and reduce the noxious output from mine too in time for this season, I appreciate it can't be pleasant traveling behind me at times 😂.
Are we still talking about the car?
Stellar work. Hilarious ;D
Quote from: househead on January 25, 2020, 13:50Quote from: Topdownman on January 25, 2020, 13:42Quote from: Call the midlife! on January 25, 2020, 12:49I'll be taking steps to try and reduce the noxious output from mine too in time for this season, I appreciate it can't be pleasant traveling behind me at times 😂.
Are we still talking about the car?
Stellar work. Hilarious ;D
Quote from: househead on January 25, 2020, 13:50Quote from: Topdownman on January 25, 2020, 13:42Quote from: Call the midlife! on January 25, 2020, 12:49I'll be taking steps to try and reduce the noxious output from mine too in time for this season, I appreciate it can't be pleasant traveling behind me at times 😂.
Are we still talking about the car?
Stellar work. Hilarious ;D
I put them down, he picks them up 🤓
Quote from: Topdownman on January 25, 2020, 12:29Yes, its a 1-8 corolla cvt. Its not the worst courtesy car I've had and feels reasonably quickish for 10.9 to 62. Not sure on the steering though!
Will be looking for s 2.0L when the time 8s 0-60
Quote from: Ardent on January 25, 2020, 16:09Quote from: Topdownman on January 25, 2020, 12:29Yes, its a 1-8 corolla cvt. Its not the worst courtesy car I've had and feels reasonably quickish for 10.9 to 62. Not sure on the steering though!
Will be looking for s 2.0L when the time 8s 0-60
That was what I was hoping I would get but alas, no. Much better, 50% more bhp for 10% increase in capacity.
Interesting the way the engine cuts in and out while driving. Would be no good with a sports exhaust though!
Have you done a full throttle launch to fully employ the elec and ICE motors.
The 0-60 is nothing special, but I did find on the prius (1.5) if you planted it, it would unleash the secret 400nm of torque.
Which made 0-30 0-40 rather impressive as the delivery is linear via the cvt.
Not got round to searching for the ludacris setting yet!
You'll find it under your right foot. ;)
Quote from: Ardent on January 25, 2020, 20:23You'll find it under your right foot. ;)
The corolla has gone home and a very clean 86 is back on the drive.
It turns out it is the sport button you need, Jason. This setting is the one that uses the electric motor as well for performance. The eco setting seemed very pointless and is probably there just for thieves to drive off in your car without waking you up as I couldnt get more than a few metres before the engine kicked in. The CVT was fine, much better than the last one I drove some years ago. I dont think the 1.8 would be great for long motorway driving and more suited to town really, its quite noisy at speed. Overall though, felt much quicker than the figures would suggest. The horrible steering was largely down to the lane departure so once that was off, it was better.
I imagine the 2.0 could be quite fun.
Anyway, the 2 is nearly ready too, just waiting for a new sports cat to be ordered and fitted so hopefully that will be home too in the next couple of weeks 8)
Overall though, felt much quicker than the figures would suggest.
Indeed. Certainly up to 30 40 in town quite sprightly.
The truth is, that's the vast majority of my driving.
Smiles all round!
That's a lot of car work Simon.
Really hope the v6 is bullet proof now.
Although, you still do a lot of miles in it don't you?
I am hoping the car will be finally sorted once its back although I wont be surprised if I need some new AFR sensors as well.
Not too many miles last year as I had to take the 86 to Scotland due to some issues with the 2 and it has been away some time too but hopefully will rack up some more soon!
As many of you will know, my car has been burning oil for some time and the plan had been to strip it down and investigate when I could find somewhere I trusted to do it. I wanted someone who knew MR2s and who wasnt going to be fazed by a frankenstein V6 conversion.
So last year, with awesome help from Paul (Puma2), I dropped the car off at MrTwo's in Willenhall to wait for a space on his long term ramp (its cheaper!) to have the engine taken out and stripped down. The plan was to then do whatever was needed.
(https://i.imgur.com/hPlyKFT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BvpfIDu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uzanb6f.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zSgC3MA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WbcUGg9.jpg)
The good news was that nothing unexpected was found or needed. The heads were sent away to be skimmed, pressure tested, the valves reseated and new valve stem seals fitted.
The valve stem seals were "like plastic" so this was one of the expected culprits for the oil burning. The other one was the bores/ rings. The bores were glazed.
(https://i.imgur.com/cGPKIyU.jpg)
So the bores were honed.
(https://i.imgur.com/oFVVVbV.jpg)
The pistons were cleaned up.
(https://i.imgur.com/4Q6azD7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WAfIcob.jpg)
And new rings were fitted.
(https://i.imgur.com/wtUKtPn.jpg)
Then all built back up
(https://i.imgur.com/5LV0DnR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/owlxhCy.jpg)
With the cardboard head gaskets replaced with nice multi layer ones.
(https://i.imgur.com/rXwaXuh.jpg)
So while I was having all this work done, it made sense to have all the stash of parts I had been building up fitted.
These were;
New steering UJ.
(https://i.imgur.com/OBKvmz5.jpg)
Front wishbones and droplinks.
(https://i.imgur.com/sjwv4Fd.jpg)
The exhaust actually needed welding anyway so made sense to have a new 200 cell sports cat fitted whilst it was all apart so a new Magnaflow one has gone on.
(https://i.imgur.com/akv9Ief.jpg)
Not sure what I am looking for inside the old cat, no obstructions but quite black in there.
(https://i.imgur.com/DtfZYYf.jpg)
Also had new brake fluid too and the suspension raised by 4mm all round.
Still got to put it all back together, run it in and have a geo done but I hope now it will finally be sorted!
Thanks for taking the time to share the photos, interesting to see the lump out of the bay. Exciting times..
So, nice bumpers back on now.
The front one was a little more damaged than expected once the rubber strip came off.
(https://i.imgur.com/rzI36WZ.jpg)
The rubber strip was also in need of replacement as it had been ripped many times and had a few temporary repairs before as well so a new one was in order.
(https://i.imgur.com/1qONlXk.jpg)
So I repaired the bumper with fibreglass but have not even attempted to finish it well but left it in resin. When I next have some paintwork done I will think about flatting and filling it then but I dont want to drive around with filler on for months. I also replaced the front mesh as the old was looking, well, old. For the rear bumper I sprayed some rattle can lacquer on the black trim, not sure if it will last long but looks nice and glossy for now at least.
(https://i.imgur.com/HIRcsHW.jpg)
I have tried attaching the new rubber strip with trim clips which look better than the screws I used last time. Not sure how they will cope with the first "kerb strike" but they look good for now!
(https://i.imgur.com/XWAX7AS.jpg)
I have increased the damping slightly and hopefully will get the alignment done on saturday. Then just need to find time to drive it.
Wow, I thought mine was low, you're mowing the grass with that one :D
I suspect my front garden is making it look lower than it is on an actual road!
Good work! When the Roadster is all back up n running will the GT86 get sold? Andy
Thanks Andy, yes, its coming along. I had the tracking done yesterday but just need to get some miles on it to run it in but thats proving difficult at the minute!
I think the 86 is likely to go at some point within the next year once the 2 is fully sorted.
I have recently changed the tyres from AD08r to AD08rs, (195/50r15 and 225/45r16) at just over 95k so will see how they do for wear etc.
I have only done abour 50ish miles so far on the day I had them fitted so could still be wearing off the release compound but I felt confident on them on the drive home. The only other observation so far was a slight tyre squeal moving off quickish which I dont think I would have had on the 08s but early days yet.
Choosing tyres is now getting to be a really difficult decision!
Thought it was about time I updated my avatar to a more recent picture!
(https://i.imgur.com/5aY28UT.jpg)
Very nice Simon ;D
Cant resist another picture as its still sorned!
(https://i.imgur.com/hSUu5Zu.jpg)
Sorn is easily sorted.
Sort it.
Only a few days till BST.
Not even driving the 86 at the moment, nowhere to go. Dont want to get stopped by the rozzers and have the car searched for any picnic items!
Quote from: Topdownman on February 4, 2021, 09:50Not even driving the 86 at the moment, nowhere to go. Dont want to get stopped by the rozzers and have the car searched for any picnic items!
Go where you bloody well want to mate.
I know people who drive over 100 miles round trip for work.
Just tell them it's for your mental health.
Long as you wear your mask and keep physical distance .
So today, I machine polished the headlights, vacuumed it, cleaned the interior, conditioned the leather seats and washed the car for the second time this week before fabsiling the fabric roof.
It was too hot to claycloth and wax it but I have to say, I am very impressed with the Autoglym shampoo conditioner I bought recently, the car looks great with just washing and drying it off.
I started it up on thursday (1st time) after it has sat there for 5 months. I will be taxing it for May so first drive planned for saturday. Probaly need to take out some breakdown cover too, just in case!
Quote from: Topdownman on April 24, 2021, 19:47So today, I machine polished the headlights, vacuumed it, cleaned the interior, conditioned the leather seats and washed the car for the second time this week before fabsiling the fabric roof.
It was too hot to claycloth and wax it but I have to say, I am very impressed with the Autoglym shampoo conditioner I bought recently, the car looks great with just washing and drying it off.
I started it up on thursday (1st time) after it has sat there for 5 months. I will be taxing it for May so first drive planned for saturday. Probaly need to take out some breakdown cover too, just in case!
Quality time washing the 2 in the sun, great way to spend the day
It was just like old times!
(https://i.imgur.com/xl66JeQ.jpg)
Quote from: Topdownman on May 8, 2021, 12:49(https://i.imgur.com/xl66JeQ.jpg)
Interesting place for window switches
The centre console is now my oyster.
Or something like that!
Quote from: shnazzle on May 8, 2021, 13:15Quote from: Topdownman on May 8, 2021, 12:49(https://i.imgur.com/xl66JeQ.jpg)
Interesting place for window switches
wondered what it was all about
I am glad someone is observant!
(Sadly no prize though).
When I looked at the pictures I just saw two coin holders. Then I looked again...
Ideal place for the heated seat switches if you had them and interesting place for window switch to it would seem
I got the idea off someone else (cant remember who it was) so cant claim credit for this.
With the switches elsewhere now, time for some cardboard aided design!
@Topdownman OK Simon I doubt I'm the only one to wonder, but I am going to be the only one to ask:
What is the one half of a Velcro fastener doing above the switches?
Tony, thats just being too observant now!
I dont exactly remember but it is covering 2 screw holes where I used to have a temperature thing.
I am guessing that the velcro is an old bit that I replaced on my subwoofer switch mount and may have just stuck it there to cover the holes rather than throw it away to cover the holes?
Quote from: Topdownman on May 8, 2021, 15:38Tony, thats just being too observant now!
I dont exactly remember but it is covering 2 screw holes where I used to have a temperature thing.
I am guessing that the velcro is an old bit that I replaced on my subwoofer switch mount and may have just stuck it there to cover the holes rather than throw it away to cover the holes?
Explanation accepted. Good luck with the cardboard template cutting.
I think I'm going to shamelessly steal that idea too, I've never been happy with how mine ended up in my centre console but was thinking about using different switches instead.
Quote from: Topdownman on May 8, 2021, 14:17I got the idea off someone else (cant remember who it was) so cant claim credit for this.
With the switches elsewhere now, time for some cardboard aided design!
Could you reroute the OEM wires or did you need too extend them from the plug?
Secondly; how did you lock the switches in place from behind?
I´d probably delete the whole console with those switches moved.
Yes, the wiring was very easy, just cut the tape in a couple of places where the loom for the switches is taped onto other parts of the loom and reroute it to the new position with no other work needed.
There is a fair bit of fiddling with sanding the inner parts of the dash so that the switches move freely without snagging and then when I came to fit it back in the car I found I had to trim part of the under dash panel (mostly at the top I think) so the switches would clear.
The switches are glued into place from behind with a hot glue gun that I bought for the job as liked the idea of the rapid set time. I used bits of ice cream lolly sticks to give something to glue onto. Not sure how long it will last so may need to re-visit with a 2 part epoxy glue if it doesnt last.
A bit of a fiddly job but not rocket science.
Oh, 1.25 kg for a centre console and 12 grams for the old dash switches removed!
Sand the dash holes;
(https://i.imgur.com/XMMwFxJ.jpg)
Glue the switches;
(https://i.imgur.com/yOotSXG.jpg)
Trim the dash (probably only needed to do the top so start with that);
(https://i.imgur.com/iKJQOQQ.jpg)
Excellent job Simon, well done. ;D
Just spotted that it was
@justinread72 who came up with the idea for the switch move!
I have used it a few times now and while you cant see the switches when driving, your hand finds them straightaway so better than looking for them on the centre console.
I have now taken the coilovers off and put new kybs and tein lowering springs on it.
(https://i.imgur.com/RUog3Qv.jpg)
A bit early to tell what I think about them despite about 300 miles over the Ding day weekend.
There is definitely more body movement and lean and the set up is not playing nicely with my ET35 rims!
A couple more pictures from Ding day.
(https://i.imgur.com/QjvNH9P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IRHrYGZ.jpg)
I'm going to come out and say what I said to you at the weekend.
I've never heard of anyone running a mk3 V6 with a standard ish suspension setup.
In my mind
@ayresyboy tried it and it wouldn't work but perhaps he had huge wheels or something.
Maybe get a standard set of rims and see if that works better.
I do actually have a set of FL and PFL rims but both need new tyres and the PFLs need a refurb.
I will be making a few small changes to the mudguards and will get the arch roller out again!
I wonder if I need stiffer springs than the teins but wont be rushing into anything.
You need much stiffer springs imho.
I needed height adjustability because of the extra weight. Stock shockers and springs had me down by the stern.
The jury is still out for me!
This set up is still firm over bumps but with more bodyroll so not particularly more comfortable and it will take some getting used to.
But who knows, the coilovers may yet go back but they had to come off anyway for 2 of the studs to be replaced due to damaged threads.
My ET35 wheels with 195/225 are not helping with the body movement either!
@Topdownman how do you find the V6 to live with?
There is one for sale online at the moment (not black with yellow accents) and I'm considering spending hours driving to the other side of the country to see it?
Does the car still handle well with the torque on tap like that?
I would be 'dailying' it for 20miles a day and maybe two or 5 three track days a year.
I have seen most conversion threads on here seem to include a reasonable amount of hiccups.
Would appreciate your views.
The driving of the car is fine and no problems with the extra weight or torque. The car doesnt handle any different to me. If anything, the torque makes it easier for daily driving. I have pulled off in third gear without realising it before now! Fuel economy has not been an issue as you tend to drive it using the torque rather than revving it like you would in a standard car to make progress.
Having a V6 conversion done now would be very expensive so if you can get one already done then its a great way to start. Having said that, any conversion as invasive as this can cause unforeseen issues and problems and is never going to be as easy as owning a more standard car. Trying to find parts can be a problem as you dont always know what parts you have on the car (eg I dont know which car my starter motor came from) and if you have a camry engine, they werent popular over here so its hard to find parts for them now. It can be hard to find someone to work on the car too given that many garages dont even like standard MR2s, let alone frankenstein ones!
If you want a daily driver, I would suggest a better way would be to have a small, but high torque turbo conversion. If I was doing it again, thats the route I would be going.
Going to look at the V6 though is also worth doing, they are great fun to drive!
Quote from: Topdownman on November 22, 2021, 14:26The driving of the car is fine and no problems with the extra weight or torque. The car doesnt handle any different to me. If anything, the torque makes it easier for daily driving. I have pulled off in third gear without realising it before now! Fuel economy has not been an issue as you tend to drive it using the torque rather than revving it like you would in a standard car to make progress.
Having a V6 conversion done now would be very expensive so if you can get one already done then its a great way to start. Having said that, any conversion as invasive as this can cause unforeseen issues and problems and is never going to be as easy as owning a more standard car. Trying to find parts can be a problem as you dont always know what parts you have on the car (eg I dont know which car my starter motor came from) and if you have a camry engine, they werent popular over here so its hard to find parts for them now. It can be hard to find someone to work on the car too given that many garages dont even like standard MR2s, let alone frankenstein ones!
If you want a daily driver, I would suggest a better way would be to have a small, but high torque turbo conversion. If I was doing it again, thats the route I would be going.
Going to look at the V6 though is also worth doing, they are great fun to drive!
Thank you
@Topdownman, I will consider my path carefully. The torque and noise does sound ever so appealing.
Quote from: Zspeed on November 22, 2021, 15:41Quote from: Topdownman on November 22, 2021, 14:26The driving of the car is fine and no problems with the extra weight or torque. The car doesnt handle any different to me. If anything, the torque makes it easier for daily driving. I have pulled off in third gear without realising it before now! Fuel economy has not been an issue as you tend to drive it using the torque rather than revving it like you would in a standard car to make progress.
Having a V6 conversion done now would be very expensive so if you can get one already done then its a great way to start. Having said that, any conversion as invasive as this can cause unforeseen issues and problems and is never going to be as easy as owning a more standard car. Trying to find parts can be a problem as you dont always know what parts you have on the car (eg I dont know which car my starter motor came from) and if you have a camry engine, they werent popular over here so its hard to find parts for them now. It can be hard to find someone to work on the car too given that many garages dont even like standard MR2s, let alone frankenstein ones!
If you want a daily driver, I would suggest a better way would be to have a small, but high torque turbo conversion. If I was doing it again, thats the route I would be going.
Going to look at the V6 though is also worth doing, they are great fun to drive!
Thank you @Topdownman, I will consider my path carefully. The torque and noise does sound ever so appealing.
I wouldn't dream of having a V6 as a daily.
It doesn't get anywhere near the 1zz for fuel economy.
As a fun weekend car if its running correctly it beats 1zz 2zz or turbo for thrills.
Dear God having 210 ftlbs of torque in a tiny car really is fun.
And mine had closer to 300. 😆
I did a lot of work on Scotte's V6 to get it to run reliably (a 'Woodsport' conversion I believe). A test drive on a slightly damp road cured me of any interest in doing one. Mind you that WAS a V6 with a Rotrex supercharger on it.
I've seen a couple up close and the workmanship of the people who did the conversions was, to say the least, poor.
I run a standard 1ZZ and I'm very happy with it. Mind you, the supercharged one we created, is a very entertaining drive.
The bottom end 'grunt' of a screw type supercharger is hard to beat.
Quote from: Carolyn on November 22, 2021, 19:39I did a lot of work on Scotte's V6 to get it to run reliably (a 'Woodsport' conversion I believe). A test drive on a slightly damp road cured me of any interest in doing one. Mind you that WAS a V6 with a Rotrex supercharger on it.
I've seen a couple up close and the workmanship of the people who did the conversions was, to say the least, poor.
I run a standard 1ZZ and I'm very happy with it. Mind you, the supercharged one we created, is a very entertaining drive.
The bottom end 'grunt' of a screw type supercharger is hard to beat.
Yours supercharger project sounded great. I missed the kit you sold by hours.
Quote from: Topdownman on December 30, 2018, 19:40So, thought I had better do an update as its been a while. I have been very busy this year and not had much time to play with the car. That hasnt stopped me buying stuff so have a number of bits to go on at some stage next year.
I did get lost on my way to the grout shop this morning and ended up in Wales somehow.
(https://i.imgur.com/Weic4sj.jpg)
One thing I discovered I need to sort out before the next winter top-down run is the heater control knob. I have a set of the mazda style ones but as you need a fair bit of force for the left hand knob for the heater direction, it has rounded off. This means that I cannot change the direction off demist only so cant get any heat on me! Brrrr.
Very nice out there this morning though.
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This shot should go in the 2022 Calendar
:) Wales is a good place to get lost :)
like the pictures i have to say :)
see it can be nice in Wales in winter :)) :))
Been a while since I posted on this thread!
So here is the old girl and the young pretender....
(https://i.imgur.com/35wBG1V.jpg)
Do like the zorst treatment
Very nice Simon and with matching roofs! ;D
Yes, given time, the new one will look more and more like the old one. I have now done more mileage in this car than all the previous owners put together (and owned it for longer than them all too I think!).
10 years of ownership of this car by me slipped by last month.
Spent the day detailing it ready for showing it off at the South Wales Car Festival on sunday. I had to do it today because it is apparently going to start raining again tomorrow!
(https://i.imgur.com/JCjbBZq.jpg)
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Still scrubs up nicely, not quite as nicely as 10 years ago but hey ho..
(Seems like my new phone wants to get all artistic!).
Still looks good Simon.
I love this build, if I wasn't turbo I'd go this route.
The car just seems to have perfect presence on the road.
Just refreshing the car ready for the weekend.
(https://i.imgur.com/A1c74X4.jpg)
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Just waiting for the front underfloor to dry so I can put on a second coat of paint then I can start to put the car back together. I doubt the Judges will look underneath but as I have entered the car into the modified category of the Drivers Club competition on sunday, best do a proper job!
Quote from: Topdownman on May 31, 2023, 11:49Just refreshing the car ready for the weekend.
(https://i.imgur.com/A1c74X4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GO1IFWI.jpg)
Just waiting for the front underfloor to dry so I can put on a second coat of paint then I can start to put the car back together. I doubt the Judges will look underneath but as I have entered the car into the modified category of the Drivers Club competition on sunday, best do a proper job!
Looks like a proper thick coat of grease on those brake discs. That'll keep the rust off for the show ;)
@cptspaulding Better mpg too!