Don't want this to get lost in the sands of time. Just read Johnnys post on tramlining, bought a pair of Toyo TR-Is today, idea being put them on the front of my summer tyre set to stop tramming , got to be better than the suicide cheapo's fitted at the mo. Can't wait to get the H/T off and summer tyres on, scoot up the Dales and really give the Toyo's a workout. I'll let you know if I hedge it, or if there is any improvement.