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The Workshop => Performance Related => Topic started by: Carolyn on September 24, 2019, 08:46

Title: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on September 24, 2019, 08:46
Just to say, I'm gauging interest in another batch (6) of front braces, and a batch (6) of our version of a TTE ('Matt') under brace.

If anyone has an interest, please say so here.  Also say which one you're interested in.



Title: Re: Braces
Post by: 1979scotte on September 24, 2019, 09:32
TTE brace please.
Mine has seen better days.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on September 24, 2019, 10:53
Not interested but chapeau for the initiative!!!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: igla on September 24, 2019, 14:57
Awesome, I want both.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on September 24, 2019, 15:03
TTE brace please. Mind is well past best as well.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: househead on September 24, 2019, 15:54
Interested in both of these projects!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: steveash on September 25, 2019, 22:02
Would be very keen on completing the set with an under brace.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: J88TEO on October 8, 2019, 16:02
Hi,
I have a 2004 mk3 so am interested in both.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: igla on October 17, 2019, 18:12
Hello, what's up with these, do we have enough potential stiffeners? :)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 17, 2019, 18:29
Quote from: igla on October 17, 2019, 18:12Hello, what's up with these, do we have enough potential stiffeners? :)

Very nearly.... please don't forget this is not exactly a business!  I do them in batches to keep costs down.

I'm planning on making the under-brace out of 20x40 steel box section..  I now have to price it up and check availability of stock.

Then I'll put a price out there and you guys cab decide if that's going to be ok.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 22, 2019, 12:37
Ok.  Jig built.  Prices for materials and powder coat and.... obtained.

The price is: £150 including a £10 donation to the club.

Please let me know if that's OK and you want to go ahead at that price.

They will be made from 20mm x 40mm box section steel.  With a better central reinforcing structure than the TTE/Matt brace version.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: househead on October 22, 2019, 13:32
@Carolyn Will the mid braces fit in addition to a Corky/Snelbaard breastplate? I know I asked this question before with regard to the Matt/TTE brace but as yours won't be a completely direct copy I thought it might be worth confirming.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on October 22, 2019, 13:38
It's a go from me!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 22, 2019, 13:40
Quote from: househead on October 22, 2019, 13:32@Carolyn Will the mid braces fit in addition to a Corky/Snelbaard breastplate? I know I asked this question before with regard to the Matt/TTE brace but as yours won't be a completely direct copy I thought it might be worth confirming.
Should not be an issue as they it will be the same depth as the TTE
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 22, 2019, 17:47
I've ordered and paid for the steel and other bits needed.

I do hope all of you who said you want one still do!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on October 22, 2019, 18:00
Quote from: Carolyn on October 22, 2019, 17:47I've ordered and paid for the steel and other bits needed.

I do hope all of you who said you want one still do!
I'm not going to let you down am I? 

I know that consequences :)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on October 22, 2019, 18:13
sure do!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Dift on October 22, 2019, 19:20
Carolyn,do you have a link for the front brace? Is this a strut brace or underbody?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 22, 2019, 19:43
Quote from: Dift on October 22, 2019, 19:20Carolyn,do you have a link for the front brace? Is this a strut brace or underbody?

This is an underbody brace.  I need a little more interest to do another batch of strut braces.

Link for strut brace:

https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=67481.75
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 09:02
Quote from: Carolyn on October 22, 2019, 13:40
Quote from: househead on October 22, 2019, 13:32@Carolyn Will the mid braces fit in addition to a Corky/Snelbaard breastplate? I know I asked this question before with regard to the Matt/TTE brace but as yours won't be a completely direct copy I thought it might be worth confirming.
Should not be an issue as they it will be the same depth as the TTE

I am going to get dimensions from Snelbaard for his breastplate, map it out om my jig and find out about compatibility for sure.  I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on October 23, 2019, 09:44
Quote from: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 09:02I am going to get dimensions from Snelbaard for his breastplate, map it out om my jig and find out about compatibility for sure. 

I am in awe.
Chapeau!!

Seriously; the coöperation on this club (of which this is a cool example) really is .... well, níce.
Thank you for this cheerful ´start´ of the day. Between brackets because that was at 06.15 but just had my first coffee of the day so my brain is getting the message too.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 09:45
Many thanks to Boris for sending dimensions.

It will be 'snug' but it is all compatible.

Might as well all pull in the same direction!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: househead on October 23, 2019, 11:50
Excellent news @Carolyn

And great work by yourself and Boris for providing top quality braces for us all to enjoy
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 12:41
Well.... To be SURE.

I put the car up on the ramp and re-installed the Mattbrace.

As things stand they are not compatible.  Either the reinforcing strips on the Breastplate would have to be notched or the new underbrace wound have to be packed to sit lower, less than ideal as the brace is already the lowest point of the car.  I don't think removing sections of the breastplate reinforcement would have a major effect on its rigidity.  I could also supply packing plates for the underbrace to give clearance, but it will then be sitting 10mm below the chassis rails.

Bugger.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: househead on October 23, 2019, 12:50
Another 10mm lower would def be a problem for me. I get the odd scrape as it is (30mm lowered springs).

Would still be interested in the front lower brace for sure.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on October 23, 2019, 12:53
Quote from: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 12:41I don't think removing sections of the breastplate reinforcement would have a major effect on its rigidity.

It is also an opportunity to bolt them together, ádding rigidity.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 13:13
Petrus makes a good point, but it does involve more work when installing.  I reckon Jon VanZyl has really flexed his Mattbrace to get it to fit.  I've checked and double checked. 

On reflection, I think one can have the option of modifying the breastplate or using 10mm spacer blocks at the underbrace mounting points.  I can supply longer bolts and slot the side brackets accordingly.
When I consider a lot of people have 30mm lowering springs and are not grounding the middle of the car ,I reckon spacers are a reasonable method.

Anyway, it's up to you guys who have a Snelbaard breastplate to decide one of three avenues.

The two above and just not getting the new underbrace.  Please let me know your wishes.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on October 23, 2019, 13:22
I think notching the reinforcement strips on the breastplate wouldn't have much of an adverse effect. In fact, I don't think these strips contribute much if at all to the strengthening effect of the brace, though they look nice. So by all means, whip out your angle grinders!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: 1979scotte on October 23, 2019, 13:49
Imho having had mr2s on both coil overs and tte springs I wouldn't want to pack the brace down any further. You guys who live in more rural areas may not have a problem but anyone who has to negotiate speed bumps regularly will.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 13:51
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 23, 2019, 13:49Imho having had mr2s on both coil overs and tte springs I wouldn't want to pack the brace down any further. You guys who live in more rural areas may not have a problem but anyone who has to negotiate speed bumps regularly will.

I was going to contact you Scotte.  Do you still want one?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 13:53
Well it seems Boris reckons notching the reinforcing rib is no big deal. 

That's what I'd do guys.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: 1979scotte on October 23, 2019, 15:41
Quote from: Carolyn on October 23, 2019, 13:51
Quote from: 1979scotte on October 23, 2019, 13:49Imho having had mr2s on both coil overs and tte springs I wouldn't want to pack the brace down any further. You guys who live in more rural areas may not have a problem but anyone who has to negotiate speed bumps regularly will.

I was going to contact you Scotte.  Do you still want one?

I do but will have to tell snellbard that I no longer require his.

I'm not paying all that money just to grind bits off.

Ive run tte style braces on all my 2s and I like the way they work so I'll stick with that.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: igla on October 23, 2019, 18:26
Hello,

still interested. I just hope to start with the 2zz swap a bit later, to first test the difference with the stock engine.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 29, 2019, 12:29
Just keeping you all updated.

I'm still waiting for the steel to be delivered.  They've let me down twice now.  Hopefully, third time's a charm.

Once I have the steel, it will take a little while to finalise and make the first one.  Then I can fully finish the jig.  After that it will take about a week to turn around welding and powder coating.

I've also ordered steel for front braces.  could do with one more person who wants one, to justify a batch.  But I will make some more once I've finished with the under-brace.

Thanks for you patience, everyone.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on October 30, 2019, 13:14
The steel has arrived.  Will start cutting tomorrow.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 2, 2019, 15:57
So, people, let me introduce 'Superbrace'.  I little heavier than a Mattbrace (TTE), but much more rigid.

It will have bolt-down points to replace the factory (or other) breastplates.  Thus acting as breastplate and underbrace.

Sorry it can't accommodate a breastplate.  There just isn't room under the car, unless the brace is dropped quite a bit. which, on a lowered car would not work.

As it is, it will tuck in level with the bottom of the chassis rails.

If anyone wants to cancel now they've seen it -that's fine.  Only fair!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on November 2, 2019, 18:08
That looks absolutely spectacular. You'll put me out of my breastplate business, but for all the right reasons!
Can I just request mine not be powder coated/painted? I'll have to adapt it a bit to work with my TRD front brace. Then I'll powder coat it myself.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 2, 2019, 18:15
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  2, 2019, 18:08That looks absolutely spectacular. You'll put me out of my breastplate business, but for all the right reasons!
Can I just request mine not be powder coated/painted? I'll have to adapt it a bit to work with my TRD front brace. Then I'll powder coat it myself.

I have TRD front on my car. It had to be adapted to work with the TTE (Mattbrace in my case). I cut off the end tubes and moved them in slightly. I'm using 2mm steel for the endplate angles (rather than 3mm) so it might work ok.

Have you reserved one?  I ask, 'cos I'm only doing six to start with and they are spoken for.  Although at least one person usually backs out.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but, as I looked at making it compatible, good engineering dictated that it couldn't be done!

You're a good man!!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on November 2, 2019, 18:35
No worries Carolyn! I'll throw the 5 remaining breastplates on ebay and hope for the best :)

I don't think I formally reserved one, but if you could put me on a short list if someone pulls out, that'd be great.
I know how you adapted your TRD front brace, but I decided against that. It'd save some weight to modify yours instead by eliminating a redundant beam. If you're okay with me adapting your brace that is of course :)

 
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 2, 2019, 18:38
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  2, 2019, 18:35No worries Carolyn! I'll throw the 5 remaining breastplates on ebay and hope for the best :)

I don't think I formally reserved one, but if you could put me on a short list if someone pulls out, that'd be great.
I know how you adapted your TRD front brace, but I decided against that. It'd save some weight to modify yours instead by eliminating a redundant beam. If you're okay with me adapting your brace that is of course :)

 

Once you get one, it will be yours to do with as you wish?  Is your TRD front brace steel? I take it you're planning on welding them together?   I have the ally version. 
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on November 2, 2019, 18:39
Mine is steel. I just got it back from the powder coater. Before I sent it there, I welded on some brackets to bolt your modified brace onto :)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 2, 2019, 18:45
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  2, 2019, 18:39Mine is steel. I just got it back from the powder coater. Before I sent it there, I welded on some brackets to bolt your modified brace onto :)

I'll be interested to see the result.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 2, 2019, 18:58
Also

Attention all potential customers.

We've just gone through the costings and labour and I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask for £175 (including club donation), to make this worthwhile.

Again.  Feel free to cancel if this is an issue.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on November 2, 2019, 20:01
Still seems very fair to me. By the way I went ahead and spent an inordinate amount of time in paint to give an impression of how the braces will mate up:

(https://i.ibb.co/PwJqmKf/combinatie-beugels.png)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: steveash on November 2, 2019, 21:30
Quote from: Carolyn on November  2, 2019, 18:58Also

Attention all potential customers.

We've just gone through the costings and labour and I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask for £175 (including club donation), to make this worthwhile.

Again.  Feel free to cancel if this is an issue.



Looks fantastic so I'm still in, assuming I was on the original list?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 3, 2019, 09:36
Ok Here are the lists for braces.

UNDERBRACE:

Scotte

Igla

Shnazzle

Househead

Steve Ash

J88teo

Snelbaard,

Which adds up to seven... I'll pm people to be sure...

STRUT BRACE:

Igla

Househead

J88Teo

Still need at least one more to make a batch.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: 1979scotte on November 3, 2019, 13:46
Quote from: Carolyn on November  3, 2019, 09:36Ok Here are the lists for braces.

UNDERBRACE:

Scotte

Igla

Shnazzle

Househead

Steve Ash

J88teo

Snelbaard,

Which adds up to seven... I'll pm people to be sure...

STRUT BRACE:

Igla

Househead

J88Teo

Still need at least one more to make a batch.



I want mine
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on November 3, 2019, 14:31
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  3, 2019, 13:46
Quote from: Carolyn on November  3, 2019, 09:36Ok Here are the lists for braces.

UNDERBRACE:

Scotte

Igla

Shnazzle

Househead

Steve Ash

J88teo

Snelbaard,

Which adds up to seven... I'll pm people to be sure...

STRUT BRACE:

Igla

Househead

J88Teo

Still need at least one more to make a batch.



I want mine
And me
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: steveash on November 3, 2019, 22:17
Quote from: Carolyn on November  3, 2019, 09:36Ok Here are the lists for braces.

UNDERBRACE:

Scotte

Igla

Shnazzle

Househead

Steve Ash

J88teo

Snelbaard,

Which adds up to seven... I'll pm people to be sure...

STRUT BRACE:

Igla

Househead

J88Teo

Still need at least one more to make a batch.



 ;D  Great!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Beachbum957 on November 4, 2019, 13:09
Quote from: Carolyn on November  2, 2019, 18:15
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  2, 2019, 18:08That looks absolutely spectacular. You'll put me out of my breastplate business, but for all the right reasons!
Can I just request mine not be powder coated/painted? I'll have to adapt it a bit to work with my TRD front brace. Then I'll powder coat it myself.

I have TRD front on my car. It had to be adapted to work with the TTE (Mattbrace in my case). I cut off the end tubes and moved them in slightly. I'm using 2mm steel for the endplate angles (rather than 3mm) so it might work ok.

Have you reserved one?  I ask, 'cos I'm only doing six to start with and they are spoken for.  Although at least one person usually backs out.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but, as I looked at making it compatible, good engineering dictated that it couldn't be done!

You're a good man!!
I am in the US so shipping would not be nice, otherwise I might be interested.

It would seem that people who want a mid brace may already have a TRD or similar front brace that uses the same mounting points, so why not just configure the front cross member to give clearance for a front brace and include spacer plates for those who aren't using a front brace?  Just an idea
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on November 4, 2019, 13:31
Well I'm planning something similar: I'll be making TRD-like front braces that will work with and without midbraces. Everyting is going to work together a treat!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 4, 2019, 13:48
Quote from: Beachbum957 on November  4, 2019, 13:09
Quote from: Carolyn on November  2, 2019, 18:15
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  2, 2019, 18:08That looks absolutely spectacular. You'll put me out of my breastplate business, but for all the right reasons!
Can I just request mine not be powder coated/painted? I'll have to adapt it a bit to work with my TRD front brace. Then I'll powder coat it myself.

I have TRD front on my car. It had to be adapted to work with the TTE (Mattbrace in my case). I cut off the end tubes and moved them in slightly. I'm using 2mm steel for the endplate angles (rather than 3mm) so it might work ok.

Have you reserved one?  I ask, 'cos I'm only doing six to start with and they are spoken for.  Although at least one person usually backs out.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but, as I looked at making it compatible, good engineering dictated that it couldn't be done!

You're a good man!!
I am in the US so shipping would not be nice, otherwise I might be interested.

It would seem that people who want a mid brace may already have a TRD or similar front brace that uses the same mounting points, so why not just configure the front cross member to give clearance for a front brace and include spacer plates for those who aren't using a front brace?  Just an idea

Unfortunately that won't work. The clearance is dictated by the chassis, not the brace. 
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Beachbum957 on November 4, 2019, 17:33
Quote from: Carolyn on November  4, 2019, 13:48Unfortunately that won't work. The clearance is dictated by the chassis, not the brace. 
Yeah, I wasn't thinking!  Really nice brace though.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 4, 2019, 17:38
Quote from: Beachbum957 on November  4, 2019, 17:33
Quote from: Carolyn on November  4, 2019, 13:48Unfortunately that won't work. The clearance is dictated by the chassis, not the brace. 
Yeah, I wasn't thinking!  Really nice brace though.

I've gone with 2mm plate for the mounting angles instead of the 3mm the TTE uses. I reckon grinding a mil of the face to the TRD mounts and a good knock with a hammer, will do the trick...
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: igla on November 5, 2019, 16:09
Still fine with me. I'm currently still searching for a 2zz motor mount, so swap is not happening yet :)

Can anyone point me in the right direction or maybe know someone that has one for sale, apart from the obvious choices?
(on PM so that we won't spam around here)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 7, 2019, 14:17
Here's the first fitting to a car.

Now we can sort out the tabs for attaching to the six points in the floor.

Nearly there.

20191107_140959.jpg
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on November 7, 2019, 17:32
looks properly chunky!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 7, 2019, 17:33
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  7, 2019, 17:32looks properly chunky!
Surprisingly light!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on November 7, 2019, 17:35
can't wait to get my hands on it :)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Hawkes41 on November 10, 2019, 22:47
Quote from: Carolyn on November  7, 2019, 17:33
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  7, 2019, 17:32looks properly chunky!
Surprisingly light!

Do you know how much it weighs?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 11, 2019, 09:51
Quote from: Hawkes41 on November 10, 2019, 22:47
Quote from: Carolyn on November  7, 2019, 17:33
Quote from: Snelbaard on November  7, 2019, 17:32looks properly chunky!
Surprisingly light!

Do you know how much it weighs?
Good question.  I'll weigh one.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 11, 2019, 10:14
5 kilos.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on November 11, 2019, 10:38
Quote from: Carolyn on November 11, 2019, 10:145 kilos.



Neat.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on November 11, 2019, 11:07
That's rather light for the size of it.
I wonder what the TTE weighs. Undoubtedly less, but then it's nowhere near as substantial
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 11, 2019, 11:44
Got to be a couple of kilos lighter.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Hawkes41 on November 11, 2019, 13:51
5kg is not bad at all!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on November 14, 2019, 09:39
Keeping you lot updated. 

I've not been well for a few days, so I've not been in the workshop....

On the mend now, so should make progress shortly.

Aren't you all glad that I only ask for money when they are shipped??

Bear with me!

c
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: jvanzyl on November 14, 2019, 10:28
Sorry to hear you've not been well! Glad you're doing better..
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: househead on November 14, 2019, 11:48
@Carolyn take all the time you need! Glad you're on the way back to feeling better.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Chilli Girl on November 14, 2019, 11:55
Quote from: Carolyn on November 14, 2019, 09:39Keeping you lot updated. 

I've not been well for a few days, so I've not been in the workshop....

On the mend now, so should make progress shortly.

Aren't you all glad that I only ask for money when they are shipped??

Bear with me!

c

Glad you're feeling better C.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on November 14, 2019, 12:12
Get thee  better. 
Doubt many of us are going to be lying under the car in this weather anyway. 
Mine will be spared this winter for sure
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 12, 2019, 15:24
Just to keep folk up to date:

The under braces are now fully welded up and they've all been trial fitted one more tine and been 'fettled'.  (Things tend to move about a bit when there's a lot of welding).

They've now gone to the powder-coaters.

I've had to have them all coated to get the job up to their minimum order requirement.

I won't get them back for about a week.

So I'll be dispatching them after the holidays.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 19, 2019, 12:31
Pdate:

I just installed a 'Superbrace' on my silver car.  I removed the TTE/Mattbrace and the oem breastplate to do the install.  I had to trim the rear plastic side covers a little but the new brace holds them in place ok.

I've made a first attempt at the replacement for the pipe support clips that attach to the old breastplate.  Needs a bit more development, but the pipes are all secure...

I did have to fettle the holes at the rear corners a little, even though the brace fitted fine on the blue car.  I suspect a little fettling will probably be required as each car will differ slightly.  Accomplished quite quickly with a rat-tail file.  As my local fabricator is find of saying: "You have to fettle to fit".

I've now been for a drive and went looking for lumps, bumps and potholes.  It's a massive improvement over the TTE set-up.  I gave the suspension a damn good workout, the chassis just soaked it up.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: J88TEO on December 19, 2019, 12:54
Great!
Looking forward to getting this and ready Mrs2 for the summer mponths.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 21, 2019, 15:07
Sorry - like all our development work, the design is copyright.

Edit:  Three out of the last two batches of strut braces went to the continent.  One went to Slovenia.  So shipping is doable.

However, there would have to be a few more requests to justify making more right now.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on December 21, 2019, 15:13
Quote from: mr2noob on December 21, 2019, 15:05Cause I noticed that my 05 seems more flexing than my previous 03.



That makes no sense. The 05 should be as the 03.
Screwing a brace under would mask the symptom of something else going on.
First check the basics; shocks, measure ride hight, check the subframe, check the OEM bracing brackets etc.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 21, 2019, 15:14
David and I just went up to Sywell for a special 'Solstice lunch'.  We gave the new brace a proper work-out.

The car is truly, honestly, transformed. So pleased with the result.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: jonbill on December 21, 2019, 18:19
Quote from: Carolyn on December 21, 2019, 15:14David and I just went up to Sywell for a special 'Solstice lunch'.  We gave the new brace a proper work-out.

The car is truly, honestly, transformed. So pleased with the result.
Brace sounds like it's as good as it looked when I saw it a few weeks ago.
I reckon you're a day early for the solstice celebration though!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 21, 2019, 18:24
Quote from: jonbill on December 21, 2019, 18:19
Quote from: Carolyn on December 21, 2019, 15:14David and I just went up to Sywell for a special 'Solstice lunch'.  We gave the new brace a proper work-out.

The car is truly, honestly, transformed. So pleased with the result.
Brace sounds like it's as good as it looked when I saw it a few weeks ago.
I reckon you're a day early for the solstice celebration though!

You must come by and give it a test drive.  I always do solstice on the 21st!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: steveash on January 10, 2020, 15:59
Super-brace arrived safely at the garage, thank you Carolyn. They were all wondering what it was! May be some time before I can get over there and get it fitted but the instructions look excellent.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 16:22
Quote from: steveash on January 10, 2020, 15:59Super-brace arrived safely at the garage, thank you Carolyn. They were all wondering what it was! May be some time before I can get over there and get it fitted but the instructions look excellent.
Let me know how you get on.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Gaz2405 on January 10, 2020, 17:14
Did you get your minimum order in the end Carolyn?

Only asking as I'll take one if there's one left :)

If not no worries.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 17:19
Quote from: Gaz2405 on January 10, 2020, 17:14Did you get your minimum order in the end Carolyn?

Only asking as I'll take one if there's one left :)

If not no worries.
Sorry - all gone!

There's an other list started.  Do you want to go on it?  Price is going up, though. £250, I'm afraid. I really under-charged on the first lot.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Gaz2405 on January 10, 2020, 17:25
Not to worry, I was in two minds with this and the Barbarian one.

As I've got the Barbarian front brace, so I'll go with the Barbarian so it all matches under the car. (that no one can see!) 😂

Good luck with the next batch!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: steveash on January 10, 2020, 20:07
Quote from: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 17:19
Quote from: Gaz2405 on January 10, 2020, 17:14Did you get your minimum order in the end Carolyn?

Only asking as I'll take one if there's one left :)

If not no worries.
Sorry - all gone!

There's an other list started.  Do you want to go on it?  Price is going up, though. £250, I'm afraid. I really under-charged on the first lot.


Oh dear, I'd be happy to pay the difference Carolyn. Wouldn't want you to be out of pocket.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 20:29
Quote from: steveash on January 10, 2020, 20:07
Quote from: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 17:19
Quote from: Gaz2405 on January 10, 2020, 17:14Did you get your minimum order in the end Carolyn?

Only asking as I'll take one if there's one left :)

If not no worries.
Sorry - all gone!

There's an other list started.  Do you want to go on it?  Price is going up, though. £250, I'm afraid. I really under-charged on the first lot.


Oh dear, I'd be happy to pay the difference Carolyn. Wouldn't want you to be out of pocket.
That's lovely of you, Steve.  What a Gent. However, a deal is a deal. I named a price, so that's it!

I'm not actually out of pocket, I just didn't realise how many woman-hours I would have into them.

That's how one learns!

 
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: steveash on January 10, 2020, 22:05
Quote from: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 20:29
Quote from: steveash on January 10, 2020, 20:07
Quote from: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 17:19
Quote from: Gaz2405 on January 10, 2020, 17:14Did you get your minimum order in the end Carolyn?

Only asking as I'll take one if there's one left :)

If not no worries.
Sorry - all gone!

There's an other list started.  Do you want to go on it?  Price is going up, though. £250, I'm afraid. I really under-charged on the first lot.


Oh dear, I'd be happy to pay the difference Carolyn. Wouldn't want you to be out of pocket.
That's lovely of you, Steve.  What a Gent. However, a deal is a deal. I named a price, so that's it!

I'm not actually out of pocket, I just didn't realise how many woman-hours I would have into them.

That's how one learns!

 


Fair enough. I'll hopefully get the opportunity to return the favour at some point.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on January 14, 2020, 18:18
Thank you DPD!


'Igla' has been in touch.  His brace has finally been delivered to his home in Slovenia, after some dithering by DPD.

They have managed do damage a lump of powder=crated steel, in transit.  I took special extra packaging precautions of the corners with bubble-wrap and gaffer tape.

Must have been thrown onto a hard surface, from height.

Nothing that can't be fixed quite simply, but just so disappoinitng.

He's been a real gent about it.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: J88TEO on January 15, 2020, 09:32
Mine arrived with small dings and scratches - Parcel Force is not much better that DPD!
Couriers are couriers - I have seen them load and unload parcels at their depots.
They don't care - parcels with "fragile" stickers are just thrown from the van onto the conveyor belts!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: igla on January 16, 2020, 15:29
Man my kitchen floor is a mess :D Well, i don't know how to treat the areas where the powdercoat was damaged... maybe some paint and then some undercoat over it?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on January 16, 2020, 15:36
I'd touch them in with an artist's brush and some decent paint. Modeller's enamel (like Humbrol) would be perfect. Several coats.

Edit:  It's not going to be seen.  Well hidden under the car.  The main thing is to prevent rust. 
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Chilli Girl on January 16, 2020, 15:37
Quote from: Carolyn on January 14, 2020, 18:18Thank you DPD!


'Igla' has been in touch.  His brace has finally been delivered to his home in Slovenia, after some dithering by DPD.

They have managed do damage a lump of powder=crated steel, in transit.  I took special extra packaging precautions of the corners with bubble-wrap and gaffer tape.

Must have been thrown onto a hard surface, from height.

Nothing that can't be fixed quite simply, but just so disappoinitng.

He's been a real gent about it.



This reminds me of Bahnstormer's hardtop that we packed so well for Nvy last year and that arrived damaged.  It was so well packaged and the couriers still managed to damage a corner.  Bloody annoying.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: J88TEO on January 22, 2020, 08:35
All,
I bought one from Carolyn but decided to keep my 2 standard.
With Carolyn's permission I am offering this at cost to members here - £190.00 inclusve of postage to UK mainland only.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: mschol17 on January 24, 2020, 17:25
Quote from: J88TEO on January 22, 2020, 08:35All,
I bought one from Carolyn but decided to keep my 2 standard.
With Carolyn's permission I am offering this at cost to members here - £190.00 inclusve of postage to UK mainland only.
Thanks.

Interested- pm sent
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on January 24, 2020, 17:41
I'm afraid we may be operating outside the club rues here.

While this thread is not a 'for sale' thread, deals must be done openly, not by PM.

I believe Joe has agreed to sell the brace to Boris ('Snelbaard').

I'll send some messages and try to clear this up.



Title: Re: Braces
Post by: J88TEO on February 2, 2020, 13:57
Carolyn,
Apologies for this.
Will post it here when I next log in.
Some interest but nothing confirm yet.
Regards.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: mschol17 on February 2, 2020, 20:17
I am interested, but obviously want to comply with the board rules.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on February 3, 2020, 06:54
In order to comply with board rules I'd like to formally call dibs.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: J88TEO on February 3, 2020, 09:00
All,
Apologies if this has violated club rules.
This has been sold to Snelbaard STP etc...
Thanks.
Joe
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on February 16, 2020, 18:32
Just fitted my AutoDiverse "Carolyn's" brace this weekend at C's workshop. Fit like a glove. 

One thing that you'll notice when you unpack it is the amount of work put into this brace. It's not just a couple of metal pipes welded together. Tabs are strengthened, cuts are considered, brackets fit perfectly. Then there's the pipe bracket you get, made of stainless sheet metal. Super light, won't rust, but a lovely touch to make sure your pipes are kept in place in an OEM-way.

Fitting time commences and the instructions are thorough. The biggest challenge is making sure your bolts come out without shearing. Especially the 2x 10mm (M6) bolts at the back middle of the brace. Make sure you plus gas the day in advance. Thoroughly and into the rail where the captive nuts sit.

Bolts out, marry it up, put bolts in. None required "work" with the exception of one little bolt hole on the center part. Bit of filing, sorted. 5 minute detour from instructions. This brace was very thoroughly measured for the MR2. That's for certain. 

Results:
I had a TTE brace before this, which as we all know is very effective indeed. It really ties the frame together and makes the car behave like a structurally more significant car.
This brace takes that up a notch. It's MUCH stiffer. It does not flex. It's box steel segments and it's immensely solid, while still light. This means that the suspension on my car (front brace, door brace pads) is doing all of the work, along with the tyres. 
Communication across the chassis is immediate. Turn-in is sharper, and the car eats bumps for breakfast. 
Although, I did have to turn my coilovers down 4 notches. The ride was noticeably harder. Just shows how much flex the body still takes up with the TTE brace. 4 notches worth BC coilover adjustment. Crazy!
This is definitely the mother of all braces. It's a second chassis. I dare say, you need no more than this and a front strut brace. 

I also drove Carolyn's car again. Last time it had older suspension and no braces. It was a lovely smooth drive, but I did miss the directness of my coilovers. 
This time she has renewed the suspension and fitted this brace. 
It's amazing. It's a stock car, but feels like a proper sports car. It has handed in that scarf in hair and toodle at 45mph with the roof down feeling for a "come on then, let's have some fun" feeling. 

So in conclusion; on a stock car, this brace is night/day. It transforms the car. It feels more capable, more stable, more involved. On a car with more suspension mods, it takes your triple sundae, adds 2 more scoops, 2 twirls and a couple of cherries. It makes it that much sweeter. 

Rant over. It has been a while since I "modified" my car and I'm so glad I did.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on February 16, 2020, 19:01
Quote from: shnazzle on February 16, 2020, 18:32I also drove Carolyn's car again. Last time it had older suspension and no braces. It was a lovely smooth drive, but I did miss the directness of my coilovers.
This time she has renewed the suspension and fitted this brace.
It's amazing. It's a stock car, but feels like a proper sports car. It has handed in that scarf in hair and toodle at 45mph with the roof down feeling for a "come on then, let's have some fun" feeling.

So in conclusion; on a stock car, this brace is night/day. It transforms the car. It feels more capable, more stable, more involved. On a car with more suspension mods, it takes your triple sundae, adds 2 more scoops, 2 twirls and a couple of cherries. It makes it that much sweeter.

Rant over. It has been a while since I "modified" my car and I'm so glad I did.

Nice description of the cost/benefit concerning the car´s road behaviour.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Davred on February 19, 2020, 16:02
Quote from: Carolyn on January 10, 2020, 17:19
Quote from: Gaz2405 on January 10, 2020, 17:14Did you get your minimum order in the end Carolyn?

Only asking as I'll take one if there's one left :)

If not no worries.
Sorry - all gone!

There's an other list started.  Do you want to go on it?  Price is going up, though. £250, I'm afraid. I really under-charged on the first lot.

Can you put me on the list please Carolyn.
Have a tte/matt brace but it's a bit bent and going by what others have said, will be an improvement anyway.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: igla on March 3, 2020, 17:13
We fitted the brace before this years first trackday. We reused the original pipe brackets, the ones provided looked too  loose. It took some wrestling with the brace but eventually managed to bolt it up properly.

shnazzle couldn't have said it better. I absolutelty reccomend this brace to anyone looking to stiffen the car up!

I am very happy with the result. Now i'm waiting for the front top brace! :D
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on March 3, 2020, 17:58
Quote from: igla on March  3, 2020, 17:13We fitted the brace before this years first trackday. We reused the original pipe brackets, the ones provided looked too  loose. It took some wrestling with the brace but eventually managed to bolt it up properly.

shnazzle couldn't have said it better. I absolutelty reccomend this brace to anyone looking to stiffen the car up!

I am very happy with the result. Now i'm waiting for the front top brace! :D
Yes two of the pipe-clips need a little rubber packing (in the instructions).

Glad you're pleased with it.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on March 5, 2020, 19:22
I'm about to install this brace on my car, do any of you who have it experience any problems with bottoming out at all?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on March 5, 2020, 19:26
Quote from: Snelbaard on March  5, 2020, 19:22I'm about to install this brace on my car, do any of you who have it experience any problems with bottoming out at all?
Nope. I'm quite low but no issues yet for me
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: househead on March 5, 2020, 19:40
Quote from: shnazzle on March  5, 2020, 19:26
Quote from: Snelbaard on March  5, 2020, 19:22I'm about to install this brace on my car, do any of you who have it experience any problems with bottoming out at all?
Nope. I'm quite low but no issues yet for me

Me neither. I'm actually surprised as I thought I'd scrape more but haven't had a single occurrence yet, and believe me plenty of opportunity for it in South London!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on June 2, 2020, 09:31
I've has a couple of enquiries about front strut braces lately.

I may make some more. They need to be done in batches of a minimum of 6 off.

I'm gauging interest.

If interested, please put your name in a reply.  Cheers.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Snelbaard on June 2, 2020, 10:15
I get asked about those quite often too. I'll refer them to you.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Porker on June 6, 2020, 18:04
I'd be interested in a front strut brace.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: panderoo on June 23, 2020, 17:37
Interested
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on June 23, 2020, 17:55
That's three, a couple more and I'll see if I can get the profiles cut.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on June 23, 2020, 19:14
Quote from: Carolyn on June 23, 2020, 17:55That's three, a couple more and I'll see if I can get the profiles cut.
I'd love a AutoDiverse brace to match my underbrace, unemployment doesn't help BUT... don't plan on being unemployed forever so... What kind of timescales would we be looking at?

I could sell my existing one to offset
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on June 23, 2020, 19:20
A month?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: panderoo on June 23, 2020, 19:51
Can you pull me back off this list please for now.. I have a few other higher priority bits to purchase first I think.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: FromTheDarkness on June 28, 2020, 18:27
Please can I co on this list?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on June 28, 2020, 19:33
Requests duly noted.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Two's Company on July 3, 2020, 21:42
Add me to the list please.  Thanks
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: MRSwede on July 24, 2020, 11:28
Hi

Any chance there will be another under brace batch ?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on July 24, 2020, 13:56
Quote from: MRSwede on July 24, 2020, 11:28Hi

Any chance there will be another under brace batch ?

Not at the moment, sorry.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Gregmorse on July 26, 2020, 12:12
Hi Carolyn!
This'll be my first ever post on the forum so I understand if you'd require some form of deposit to put me on he list but I signed up specifically to get in touch with you - so please let me know if thats ok :)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: panderoo on August 10, 2020, 13:59
Have these been made yet ? @Carolyn

If not do you have one going spare ?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on August 10, 2020, 14:01
I've been struggling with my health, so no braces in the pipeline right now, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on August 10, 2020, 14:24
Quote from: Carolyn on August 10, 2020, 14:01I've been struggling with my health, so no braces in the pipeline right now, I'm afraid.

Sorry to read that.
Sending you positive energy with fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Joesson on August 10, 2020, 14:58
Quote from: Carolyn on August 10, 2020, 14:01I've been struggling with my health, so no braces in the pipeline right now, I'm afraid.

You've been busy as always looking after others on here, time to look after yourself @Carolyn.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: panderoo on August 10, 2020, 15:17
Sorry to hear that @Carolyn

Hopefully you'll be one the mend soon.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: househead on August 10, 2020, 17:08
Quote from: panderoo on August 10, 2020, 15:17Sorry to hear that @Carolyn

Hopefully you'll be one the mend soon.

Yep well said.

Hope you feel better soon @Carolyn
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: steveash on September 1, 2020, 21:02
@Carolyn I finally got my car out of storage and brace fitted. I haven't driven it for 10 months so can't do a back-to-back comparison but I can still feel a noticeable improvement. Can't thank you enough for the considerable work you did on this and the front strut brace. Mine is now a changed car very much for the better. Sure-footed, precise and a real pleasure to drive. The extra flexing and vibrations caused by my firmer suspension (Meister R struts) are now completely ironed out. It also happily still clears the numerous speed bumps that seem to be breeding all around our new home!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on November 2, 2020, 20:11
Interesting. Quite like this guy's videos 

https://youtu.be/4l8KWwL7ngg
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Topdownman on November 2, 2020, 21:04
I have seen some of his videos before and enjoyed them.

The braces seem really expensive for america where this sort of stuff is usually cheap, 750$, jeez!

How many times did he say cha-see? It annoys me every time I hear it and that was one of the most times I have heard it in a single video!

(Thank god they werent made out of aluminum though).
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on November 2, 2020, 22:07
Quote from: Topdownman on November  2, 2020, 21:04The braces seem really expensive for america where this sort of stuff is usually cheap, 750$, jeez!


That is a lot of money to make a car noticeably heavier ;-)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: shnazzle on November 2, 2020, 22:38
Quote from: Petrus on November  2, 2020, 22:07
Quote from: Topdownman on November  2, 2020, 21:04The braces seem really expensive for america where this sort of stuff is usually cheap, 750$, jeez!


That is a lot of money to make a car noticeably heavier ;-)
That was my thought. That's a lot of metal he added. Roll bar, door bars, rail braces, those front braces.. But the most noticeable one was the door jam bushes :)

I wish he had tested them all separately or at least sequentially
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on November 2, 2020, 23:29
Quote from: shnazzle on November  2, 2020, 22:38That was my thought. That's a lot of metal he added. Roll bar, door bars, rail braces, those front braces.. But the most noticeable one was the door jam bushes :)


The customary used mild steel tubes for a roll bar are some 2 lbs / foot.
Door bars smaller diameter but thicker walled.
I think he added some 50 kilo.
As such adding even this simple low tech steel is more expensive/kg than lightening :-O

Let us for calculating sake assume a 1000 kg car.
Adding 50 kilo in bracing versus adding 50 kilo of lightness without changing stiffness
5% more mass vs 5% less mass, making 10% difference.

The ham question is whether the added stiffness outweighs the 10% more tyre traction, better braking, better accelleration of the equivalent lightening.
Thát is the ham question about bracing: Does the added stiffness outweigh the same spending on adding lightness.

Anyone have an educated guess about the weight of this ´collapsable shopping trolley´?

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1091/981132065_22c310fc24_o.jpg)

I háve added bracing weight. I confess I have sinned.
An Ultrathingy front strut brace, Snelbaard floor pan brace and the TRD lower control arm braces are under way.
I recon that they improve more than the 6 kilo weight difference comparing to having spent same on lightening. Maybe I wíll take the airco pump off to have a win-win ;-)

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: ralf321 on November 2, 2020, 23:43
Petrus, may I ask where you got the TRD braces from ?
I found a video the other day where a guy was showing his cheapo ones with completely worn out fixation holes. Seems to be a lot of flexing going on there.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on November 2, 2020, 23:55
Quote from: ralf321 on November  2, 2020, 23:43Petrus, may I ask where you got the TRD braces from ?

From SC here.
Was quite surprised to see them pop up so pounced no haggling. Being Dutch born that is still nagging at me but hey, they áre under way ;-)

Snelbaard has reproduced the Cusco version I think.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 1, 2020, 11:36
I'm about to do a limited run of our front strut brace.

We'll be making a dozen, two of which are already reserved.  If you want to go on the list, please respond.  First come, first served. 

They will probably be posted out early in January.  I don't take payment until they are about to be posted.

They are VERY stiff.  Plastics do have to be cut, however.

Price will be  £165each including a £15 donation to the club

Pics for those who aren't aware of what they are:

brace 1.jpg

brace 3.jpg


Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on December 1, 2020, 11:46
Quote from: Carolyn on December  1, 2020, 11:36I'm about to do a limited run of our front strut brace.

Véry good to read you feel energised again Carolyn!!
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: FredyCro on December 9, 2020, 20:25
Quote from: Carolyn on December  1, 2020, 11:36I'm about to do a limited run of our front strut brace.

We'll be making a dozen, two of which are already reserved.  If you want to go on the list, please respond.  First come, first served. 

They will probably be posted out early in January.  I don't take payment until they are about to be posted.

They are VERY stiff.  Plastics do have to be cut, however.

Price will be  £165each including a £15 donation to the club

Pics for those who aren't aware of what they are:

brace 1.jpg

brace 3.jpg




interested
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 9, 2020, 20:54
Quote from: FredyCro on December  9, 2020, 20:25
Quote from: Carolyn on December  1, 2020, 11:36I'm about to do a limited run of our front strut brace.

We'll be making a dozen, two of which are already reserved.  If you want to go on the list, please respond.  First come, first served. 

They will probably be posted out early in January.  I don't take payment until they are about to be posted.

They are VERY stiff.  Plastics do have to be cut, however.

Price will be  £165each including a £15 donation to the club

Pics for those who aren't aware of what they are:

brace 1.jpg

brace 3.jpg




interested

I'll put you on the list in 'private sales'.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Porker on December 21, 2020, 13:35
Put me down for one please, Carolyn.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 21, 2020, 13:58
Quote from: Porker on December 21, 2020, 13:35Put me down for one please, Carolyn.
Will do. You can follow progress in the 'PrivateSales' section.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Porker on December 21, 2020, 14:12
Thanks. However, I can't see any Private Sales section even though I'm logged in. Could you point me in the right direction please?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on December 21, 2020, 14:22
Quote from: Porker on December 21, 2020, 14:12Thanks. However, I can't see any Private Sales section even though I'm logged in. Could you point me in the right direction please?

Ahh it might be one of those sections where you need thirty posts to get to play. Just make a bunch of comments on any threads that interest you.

But worry not - you're on the list.  I shall send you a PM.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Porker on December 21, 2020, 16:04
Got it. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Porker on January 15, 2021, 13:58
PM replied to - only just seen it - sorry for that.

Is there any way of getting an email notification when you're sent a PM?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on January 15, 2021, 14:26
Yes- I get them.  Not sure how it's turned on.  In the account section, I think.

Click on your name at the top left.

Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Porker on January 15, 2021, 15:07
Ah - under "Notifications". Hopefully sorted now.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Petrus on February 5, 2021, 14:10
Quote from: ralf321 on November  2, 2020, 23:43Petrus, may I ask where you got the TRD braces from ?
I found a video the other day where a guy was showing his cheapo ones with completely worn out fixation holes. Seems to be a lot of flexing going on there.

You mean this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG56S8-R80k

That is alumium. Not a good idea for this application and yes it illustrates as clearly as one could want what a steel brace can do there.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: ralf321 on February 5, 2021, 22:22
Yes, that was the clip I meant.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on February 6, 2021, 09:27
I still have three strut braces left from the last batch.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Elektronic on February 12, 2021, 15:18
Hi Carolyn
Do you still have a front strut brace available , and does it include hinges for the frump lid. If yes ill take one.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on February 12, 2021, 15:26
Quote from: Elektronic on February 12, 2021, 15:18Hi Carolyn
Do you still have a front strut brace available , and does it include hinges for the frump lid. If yes ill take one.

Yes I do have one available.  I'm afraid it doesn't include the bits for the frunk lid.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Porker on March 27, 2021, 18:34
I've finally got around to fitting the brace and will do a short review once I have a few more miles on it.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: igla on March 25, 2022, 17:38
Quote from: Carolyn on February 12, 2021, 15:26Yes I do have one available.  I'm afraid it doesn't include the bits for the frunk lid.

Hello Carolyn, do you still have that last one in stock? It would be nice to pair it with the big brace that I already have :)
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on March 25, 2022, 17:47
Quote from: igla on March 25, 2022, 17:38Hello Carolyn, do you still have that last one in stock? It would be nice to pair it with the big brace that I already have :)

Sorry -all gone.
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: jas on May 5, 2022, 18:09
Hi, are the strut braces still available ?
Title: Re: Braces
Post by: Carolyn on May 6, 2022, 09:01
Sorry - none in stock and no plans to make more right now.