Guys,
please discuss here any comments on
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Whoah.
I'm a little confused by this line, however:
QuoteFor Japanese and other overseas markets production of the MR-S will continue until 2007. Once the 100 cars have been sold it can be ordered indivually until production stops.
If that's so, what's the significance of the 100 figure? Seems like, in reality, the number is unlimited.
not quite Steve, you must take into account Friedel's slighlty less than 100% english. What he was saying here i beleive is that the MR2 Roadster will be available till 2007 for the Japanese and oversea's market but that they will also be produceing a limited edition model of 100 cars fitted out with the TTE turbo kit
as for the figure of 100 cars, probably because its a nice round figure s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
they are making 100 cars to sell as complete, then you can only order the kit maybe ?
correct, and to start with you can order the kit at a discounted price from the Essen show
guys thats pretty much teh way I interpreted it, though I will clarify any questions as soon as Freidel responds to my reply.
I'm going to disagree with this line!
"It's a pity but the car doesn't meet the Euro 4 emission standard which become legal requirement from January next year onwards."
The Euro 4 emission standard has these maximum limits:
CO 1.00
HC 0.10
NOx 0.08
1ZZ-FE goes under those limits easily:
CO 0.37
HC 0.03
NOx 0.01
If it didn't, how on earth could Toyota continue selling the same engine in other cars anyway??
2ZZ-GE engines are discontinued because they go over those values with:
CO 1.21
HC 0.10
NOx 0.08
But I don't believe that's the real reason as the 2ZZ-GE in Lotus passes the limits with:
CO 0.67
HC 0.06
NOx 0.06
Go figure...but 1ZZ-FE passes Euro 4 without being even close, so that's not the real reason why it won't be sold in Europe anymore.
Tem,
Personally I had the same thought, however that is teh official line.
Its tempting but i did a bit of searching and it seems under powered, unless they have done futher developments since mid last year.
based on driving the prototpye it's how the roadster should have come.
and was probably around as quick as mine (when I took you out)
the question is if you need more power or not?
still thought it was underpowered myself though Mark, at 184Bhp, i would have thought they would have made the 200Bhp mark at least even if they left it at that s:? :? s:? perhaps as you say its what best suits the MR2
What if you got the kit then added uprated injectors etc could you up it? would it bum the price alot ?
does it include an e-manage or similar ?
Quote from: "markiii"Personally I had the same thought, however that is the official line.
Yeah, I know s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "philster_d"What if you got the kit then added uprated injectors etc could you up it? would it bum the price alot ?
Of course you can mod it afterwards, just like any N/A or turbo car s;) ;) s;) I'm sure they won't be offering much updates though, as they all would need to be TÜV certified and tested and tested and tested...
in answer to both Stu and Phil.
Mine is running at 5PSI at the moment and while arguably a bigger turbo (on mine) that to me indicates there isn't a lot in it.
from memory the prototype felt a little slower, however bear in mind that was running on an SMT and left hand drive, which somewhat skewed teh comparison.
Having seen teh difference in the PE recently when now fitted to Bens Manual box, and previosuly on Martins SMT, It was a whole diffeerent experience. I'm expectign the same can be said about teh TTE.
The TTE Turbo uses a piggyback of TTEs own design, rather than an emanage.
and while TMC are stipulating the power levels it can be sold with someone did once offer to send us the maps to hit 200bhp.
ref the injectors, yes they could be upgraded after the fact, as could you decat and so on. Though TTE will only be selling it in one spec.
Worth mentioning as I touched on above is that as this is a factory kit, the main cat is still present. and the stock exhaust was also on the prototype we drove.
This can be changed as per any other car after teh fact, and I would imagine more power would be liberated as a result.
Using Phil as an example, you already have the H&S exhaust so personally I'd expect it to make better numbers on yours.
And so going on from what you said.... can you insur ethis as a factory fit option ?
Quote from: "philster_d"And so going on from what you said.... can you insur ethis as a factory fit option ?
well it is factory fitted so i'd have said yes. Other cars come with factory fitted turbo's, the only thing is whether you can find an insurance company who knows what one of these are s:? :? s:?
I think thats a fair question and probably Stu is correct.
I would personaly Tell an insurance company that it is an offical Toyota Accessory (which is true), and see what if anything they require as proof.
The snag from y point iof view is that implies if you ever claim for an accident repair they will be able to get official Toyota parts. Which is unlikely froma amin dealer in teh UK.
If you want to check with yoru insurance co where tehy stand I will ask Freidel any questions we need to clarify.
Mark,
Ta for posting this over on IMOC as well.
Two things from the message:
1. The Roadster will continue to be made until 2007
2. It looks like Toyota Japan are just selling the TTE kit with some other mods just before the model run closes..?
I was just thinking about Mazda launching a Turbo'd MX5 about 9-12 months before the new MX5 was launched recently - it could be a response to this, or maybe TTE need to shift all the turbo kits they've got in s;) ;) s;) as there are kits available from a number of aftermarket sources at price points well below theirs at the moment.
For me, if I had to make a decision as to which turbo kit to go with again I'd be seriously looking at the C2-power kit, but with a custom charcooler rather than a rear mounted intercooler, as you will always have problems with airflow and intercooler efficency with that kind of a location, exactly as the Mk2 does.
But I'm currently very happy with the PE turbo on mine - the turbo may be in need of a rebuild in the not too distant future - but even driving in to work this morning it caused a reality check when I pinned the throttle to the floor - 220bhp in 1000kgs makes for stunning accelleration.
well i've just gone down to my dealer and asked the Q, "where do i sign up?", after a puzzled look from the salesmen followed by a "we dont do a turbo'd MR2" so i pulled out the trusty laptop with the details, he looked at me in astonishment and said "i'd better look into this", so i should have a price tag for you before i go away s:wink: :wink: s:wink: whether i keep my name on the order list, we'll first theres the mrs s:? :? s:? then theres the cost........
The whole thing is beyond my budget at the moment s:( :( s:(
But can anyone clarify:
- What will the new MPG figures be?
- What appearance mods if any does the conversion include?
- Does anyone want to buy a granny for 5,000euros?!
can anyone confirm this kit includes an intercooler?
what are the chassis upgrade they mention? can they lower the price of the kit if we don't need them? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
what about factory warranty?
185hp is a bit low but there figures are quite ok! I'd sign for this one over Hass if I'm sure is really good (and eventually can be improved easily!) s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Stu,
I took th email to imply that the LTD edition was available in Japan only through Netz Dealers.
However, good luck I hope I'm wrong, if you could buy one in teh Uk even I might be tempted.
Quote from: "hibbyni"- What will the new MPG figures be?
not sure will get back to you on that
Quote from: "hibbyni"- What appearance mods if any does the conversion include?
none, its just the turbo kit, if you want more then sign quick for one of the 100 TTE MR2 Turbo's, but i wouldn't hold your breathe
Quote from: "hibbyni"- Does anyone want to buy a granny for 5,000euros?!
hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm, let me think about that for a second...........
Quote from: "markiii"Stu,
I took th email to imply that the LTD edition was available in Japan only through Netz Dealers.
However, good luck I hope I'm wrong, if you could buy one in the Uk even I might be tempted.
yeah i took it to mean that as well, but i thought i'd chance my luck, forever hopeful, mind you my chances are easier of getting the car over here than gtting it past the mrs s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
theres a cheap HAss kit for sale in the US (Jared wrecked his car) if that helps :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "markiii"theres a cheap HAss kit for sale in the US (Jared wrecked his car) if that helps :-) :-) :-)
ouch poor bugger s:( :( s:( , nah it doesn't but thanx anyway, got to save the pennies up first s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Quote from: "hibbyni"The whole thing is beyond my budget at the moment s:( :( s:(
But can anyone clarify:
- What will the new MPG figures be?
According to the brochure, available on the page, the MPG moves from 7.4 litres/100km to 8.9litres/100km. What that is in MPG is, eh, I give up.
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"According to the brochure, available on the page, the MPG moves from 7.4 litres/100km to 8.9litres/100km. What that is in MPG is, eh, I give up.
31.74mpg according to m http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm (http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm) m s:) :) s:)
7.4L/100Km = 32.80MPG
8.9L/100Km = 27.28MPG
used m http://home.flash.net/~lorint/lorin/convert.htm (http://home.flash.net/~lorint/lorin/convert.htm) m
eeeeeerrrrrrrr ok 2 different websites and 1MPG difference, oh well you've got a ball park
Interesting s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Seems eforecourt are a bit off then s:) :) s:)
4mpg difference, btw, as I was working on the turbo figure s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "aaronjb"Interesting s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Seems eforecourt are a bit off then s:) :) s:)
4mpg difference, btw, as I was working on the turbo figure s;) ;) s;)
s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: , i've edited my post above with the converter i used
Quote from: "kanujunkie"s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: , i've edited my post above with the converter i used
Ahh that explains it - yours is using US gallons, which are (if memory serves) considerably smaller than UK gallons s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "kanujunkie"eeeeeerrrrrrrr ok 2 different websites and 1MPG difference, oh well you've got a ball park
Maybe a difference between imperial gallons and US gallons?
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"Quote from: "kanujunkie"eeeeeerrrrrrrr ok 2 different websites and 1MPG difference, oh well you've got a ball park
Maybe a difference between imperial gallons and US gallons?
sounds reasonable, so is the MPG we use based on imperial or US gallons then??
Imperial (over here)
Quote from: "kanujunkie"eeeeeerrrrrrrr ok 2 different websites and 1MPG difference, oh well you've got a ball park
US vs UK gallons?
Just to add - my MPG figures from Elvington :
Cruising home - 195 miles @ GPS verified 65-70mph : 40.5mpg
Driving there @ 80mph : 31mpg
On track: Don't ask. Probably single figures (!)
I'd have thought the TTE Conversion would be a similar ball park as they're not messing around reducing the compression ratio of the engine (which in turn hurts fuel economy) and the 1ZZ engine is a lean burn design anyway.
Quote from: "BenF"On track: Don't ask. Probably single figures (!)
on track mines averaged about 16mpg so you could be right with the turbo fitted s:? :? s:?
put it this way I got 113 miles out of tank at elvington.
that cost £37
Quote from: "markiii"put it this way I got 113 miles out of tank at elvington.
that cost £37
£37 of fuel at 95.9 = 38.58litres
38.58L = 8.4893 Imp Gallons
113miles from 8.4893 Imp Gallons = 13.31mpg
not really that much worse than NA in the grand scale of things
Quote from: "kanujunkie"£37 of fuel at 95.9 = 38.58litres
Ah yes - but we were paying 105.9p/l for Optimax at the Shell garage that Mark is probably quoting figures from..
Not much different, though:
£37 = 34.94l = 7.69imp. gal.
14.69mpg
Considering on his first run out, most of Mark's fuel ended up as soot on his back bumper s:lol: :lol: s:lol: that's pretty good really..
Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "kanujunkie"£37 of fuel at 95.9 = 38.58litres
Ah yes - but we were paying 105.9p/l for Optimax at the Shell garage that Mark is probably quoting figures from..
Not much different, though:
£37 = 34.94l = 7.69imp. gal.
14.69mpg
Considering on his first run out, most of Mark's fuel ended up as soot on his back bumper s:lol: :lol: s:lol: that's pretty good really..
14 MPG including track use is really quite suprisingly reasonable (!)
My previous best (worst?) has been 5MPG on a old Bentwaters airfield with a layout particularly hard on the brakes / engine in the Mk2 - 10-12mpg would be a more normal figure.
I also got through a full tank in the day, plus a couple of 5 litre plastic unleaded cans. I wasn't redlining the car in every gear with full boost though - more 70-80% max throttle down the straights and then playing with the throttle in the bends.
19mpg on track for me (92 miles) s:D :D s:D
I claim my award for the most economical track driver (and possibly slowest).
Jason
Quote from: "mrsmr2"19mpg on track for me (92 miles) s:D :D s:D
I claim my award for the most economical track driver (and possibly slowest).
Jason
come out in mine next time Jason, i'll give you a more SPIRITED drive s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Thanks for the replies all.
I'm off to Vegas next weekend so you'll know I won big if a TTE Turbo appears on my signature below!!
Stu keep us informed on how you get on with the new TTE turbo 2 order option s:wink: :wink: s:wink: Upgrading the 2 looks even more tempting now s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
What do you reckon are the chances that we might see a similar spec on UK cars? Would be more likely towards the end of 2007 I think rather than sooner.
I would be seriously tempted with that spec.
Also, what do you think is meant by body reinforcement for the separate turbo install? The thicker front braces on the mid 04 and onwards cars perhaps, or something else?
Jason
the roadster gets discontinued at the end of this year so I doubt it.
extra reinforcement is a huge x brace that spans the whole underside fo the car.
Quote from: "markiii"extra reinforcement is a huge x brace that spans the whole underside fo the car.
Sounds like quite a significant piece of stiffening! I'm wondering if the brace will be made available separately for those going down something other than the TTE Turbo route...... I'm guessing this is likely to be better than existing front/rear/Corky AEM brace options - anyone got any thoughts on this?
it's on the streets s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
(http://www.plop.ru/site/cars/Toyota%20MR2%20Turbo/b.jpg)
anyway, I'm looking for pictures of the bracing but think I remember seeing it as a lot of bracing everywhere under the car... I'll post pictures later... when I find them s:? :? s:? !
Being a factory turbo, turbo reliability is a plus for TTE compared to other turbo kits available. The fact that custom chassis mod has been offered for this kit suggests that Toyota has paid adequate attention in making this kit as reliable and safe as possible.
Deciding upon 200bhp on this kit is probably a decision Toyota has made based on the tolerance level of the stock 1ZZ-FE engine. Thus, one can enjoy factory turbo without worrying any reliability issues with stock internals. I would not change anything of the turbo if I get it as I don't wish to upset the performance balance Toyota has strived for this kit.
If there's anyone who wishes to get a bigger injector, or up his boost, he/she is better off getting some other turbo kit in the market. The fact that TTE turbo runs at a premium probably suggests the amount of time and R&D it has spent to make this turbo as reliable as possible. So why ruin it? I know I won't. 200bhp is more than enough for our nimble 2.
I do have a question though. Does TTE offer this kit alone to overseas customers (just kit and not including installation etc)? If they do, I will most likely go for this, as I have 100% confidence it will offer the utmost bolt-on reliability compared to other aftermarket turbo kits.
So.... anyone knows how we can order a fit for our cars?
Quote from: "aureus"So.... anyone knows how we can order a fit for our cars?
yep, go to Essen, and get a resonable discount then
Quote from: "simontan75"Deciding upon 200bhp on this kit is probably a decision Toyota has made based on the tolerance level of the stock 1ZZ-FE engine.
The official kit comes with a power output of 185BHP not 200 I believe s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
And made due to regulations and not because of anything to do with the engine?
Tough decission
I have a BRS widebody, custom wheels, a Remus exhaust wich is the TTE, TRD header and AEM Cold air intake.
My question is if they'll install the turbo with all this mods, if they do will they use any of this parts?
Quote from: "carbayon"Tough decission
I have a BRS widebody, custom wheels, a Remus exhaust wich is the TTE, TRD header and AEM Cold air intake.
My question is if they'll install the turbo with all this mods, if they do will they use any of this parts?
Hi Juan,
Can not resist turbocharging??? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Got the Monkeywrench pieces to turn into 1.93 cc , Wiseco Pistons, sleeves, Crower cams, Valves, springs, retainers but...........can't find any decent shop in Asturias to make that conversion.
I have all the pieces paid and now only find morons, they say it's 2much work. TTE sounds good, a bit expensive, not 2much power but in the other hand reliable. I need urgent POWER, my shoes are a huge anchor 265/35/18 in the rear.
My biggest concern about TTE or CPower is to take the car to Cologne or Budapest
Have to meet. I'll be in Marbella first 15 days of October
Hi again Juan,
I haven't talked to them but I'm sure your conversion can be well done here:
http://www.vege.es/visita.php3
They are in Requena, one hour away from Valencia. I would ask there...
Where are you working, mate s:?: :?: s:?:
After all the money spent in your body kit/wheels, you have bought all these MWR parts and are going to do the conversion and still have money for going turbo... s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:
I'm a little envious... s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Uhmmmmmm, that place looks really good, I wonder if they'll do it and how long it could take, obviously they look professionals.
I run and own a construction company in Oviedo. I make money of course but I save some, no family "wife or kids", I just invest in life hapiness (food,drinks,trips,Mr2 and girlfriend). I can consider myself a lucky person.
Quote from: "carbayon"I have a BRS widebody, custom wheels, a Remus exhaust wich is the TTE, TRD header and AEM Cold air intake.
My question is if they'll install the turbo with all this mods, if they do will they use any of this parts?
TRD header and AEM intake has to go. Widebody, wheels and exhaust can stay, unless you want less restrictive exhaust.
Quote from: "carbayon"Got the Monkeywrench pieces to turn into 1.93 cc , Wiseco Pistons, sleeves, Crower cams, Valves, springs, retainers but...........can't find any decent shop in Asturias to make that conversion.
I have all the pieces paid and now only find morons, they say it's 2much work.
You're right, it's too much work and you shouldn't do it. Instead you should sell all that stuff to me s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
I've just had an email from Freidel @ TTE and he's happy for me to take the completed order form to essen for you (you still get the special offer)
He confirmed that the conversion would take 1 day.
I can recommend a hotel 10 minutes walk form TTE and 3 minutes from the train station to get you into Cologne (wicked night out can be had)
please email me at Prolexuk AT gmail DOT com for the relevant order form.
If the travel is a problem I MAY be able to sort out a deal (post Essen) where I get it fitted at my workshop for a special price. My technician deals with the 500 + Supras and Skylines so is well able to do the job (if required)
However I recommend a trip over ......4 hours from Calais is all s:D :D s:D
I have vacations first 15 days of october. I was wondering if it would be possible to buy and install at 5500 euros deal before the Essen motorshow
Quote from: "carbayon"I have vacations first 15 days of october. I was wondering if it would be possible to buy and install at 5500 euros deal before the Essen motorshow
You are desperate matey to get that turbo in; I'm getting more and more tempted by the day s8) 8) s8) Don't know if I can get to Essen so may want to take the same route in sorting a discount s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
excelent newsssss s:D :D s:D
guess it's time for one more road trip to germany
maybee next summer
Time to start saving money s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Soz guys, I'm a bit hungover and dumb today... s:P :P s:P ... 184HP is at the flywheel, yes?
Love that hill-climbing torque curve.... this'll be a real hoot to drive s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "spit"Soz guys, I'm a bit hungover and dumb today... s:P :P s:P ... 184HP is at the flywheel, yes?
Love that hill-climbing torque curve.... this'll be a real hoot to drive s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Yes, at flywheel. s:( :( s:(
Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"Quote from: "spit"Soz guys, I'm a bit hungover and dumb today... s:P :P s:P ... 184HP is at the flywheel, yes?
Love that hill-climbing torque curve.... this'll be a real hoot to drive s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Yes, at flywheel. s:( :( s:(
s:( :( s:( Maybe a toot rather than a hoot then s:wink: :wink: s:wink: I do like the torque gradient though.
TTE tell me they can only start installs from 2nd week in December.
guys just got back from hols and ghave emails from freidel waiting.
As soon as I've caught up I'll update you.
ladies and Gents please see the promised pictures of the extra chassis bracing.
Courtesy of Friedel.
(http://www.mr2roc.org/Repository/misc/tteturbo/bracing/P0005355.jpg)
(http://www.mr2roc.org/Repository/misc/tteturbo/bracing/P0005356.jpg)
(http://www.mr2roc.org/Repository/misc/tteturbo/bracing/P0005357.jpg)
Nice pics Mark, thanks.
Kinda interesting to note that TTE haven't got rid of that useless plate and spoon combo and gone for something more like Corky's plate. I wonder how easy it would be for someone to fab up that X-Brace, and just how much of a difference it makes...
Is that it! Looks a bit cheap to me. No wonder they throw that in for free with the turbo
I should point out that
this si only used on cars made before the end of 2004, as after that their is additional bracing as standard.
pics are from the prototype I should imagine so expect better finish on customer installs.
Mark,
Have you seen the new bracing on the 04/05 models? I had a quick look at one the other day and it didn't look too impressive compared to the braces you can buy.
the stuff I saw on Grants looked like a huge improvement.
but bear in mind yours is an 03?
models liek mine have even less than yours as standard.
guys,
I've just heard back from TTEwith regard to warranties and teh situations is as follows.
Case 1: Installation into a new vehicle
We(Toyota Motorsport GmbH) provide 3 years warranty or 100.000km, what ever comes first, on all parts included in the Turbo kit and for consequential damages. It's synchronized with the standard new car warranty.
By that we close the gap for cases in which the warranty might be rejected by the dealer respectively the national distributor.
Of cause the route course for consequential damage has to be proven.
Case 2: Vehicles within the new car warranty and less then 40.000 km on the clock at date of installation We(Toyota Motorsport GmbH) provide warranty for the remaining new vehicle warranty period up to 100.000km, what ever comes first, on all parts included in the Turbo kit and for consequential damages.
For the parts included in the Turbo kit our warranty is 3 years.
Case 3: Vehicles within the new car warranty and more then 40.000 km on the clock at date of installation
3 years warranty on the parts included in the Turbo kit. No warranty for consequential damages.
Case 4: Vehicles after the new car warranty is finished and less then 40.000 km on the clock at date of installation
3 years warranty on the parts included in the Turbo kit. No warranty for consequential damages.
Case 5: Vehicles after the new car warranty is finished and more then 40.000 km on the clock at date of installation
3 years warranty on the parts included in the Turbo kit. No warranty for consequential damages.
with regard to US availability.
This Kit will not be sold as CARB certified for California (which is not to say it won't pass)
Friedel is meeting with TRD USA at the SEMA show in November and it looks liek it will be available via them
enquiries shoudl be made to
TRD E200
TOYOTA Motor Sales
19001 S Western Avenue
Torrance,CA 90501
E-mail: e www.trdusa.com (http://www.trdusa.com) w
Quote from: "markiii"Case 3: Vehicles within the new car warranty and more then 40.000 km on the clock at date of installation
3 years warranty on the parts included in the Turbo kit. No warranty for consequential damages.
Case 4: Vehicles after the new car warranty is finished and less then 40.000 km on the clock at date of installation
3 years warranty on the parts included in the Turbo kit. No warranty for consequential damages.
Case 5: Vehicles after the new car warranty is finished and more then 40.000 km on the clock at date of installation
3 years warranty on the parts included in the Turbo kit. No warranty for consequential damages.
Are these cases identical, or am I missing something? s:? :? s:?
And isn't that basically saying that there's no warranty for the engine itself, just the parts?
I read that the same way.
So basically, if your car it out of original 3 year warranty or done more than 25K and this kit blows up your engine......bad luck
Yup that's how I read it too - which, frankly, means you might as well buy a C2 power/Hass/PE kit unless the TUV approval is really important to you (like, legally necessary. Not that that stopped you, eh Tem? s;) ;) s;) )
Quote from: "aaronjb"Not that that stopped you, eh Tem? s;) ;) s;)
Obviously I'm only driving in closed areas, like tracks and my backyard s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
There's always the Muggianu turbokit that's TÜV approved. I asked them if I could get a copy of the approval paper, so I can check it with local authorities in advance, cause they are a bit fussy about what they accept and what not. They didn't want to give out the papers though s:? :? s:? Apparently in Germany when you register the turbokit, the authorities call someone about the TÜV approval or whatever. That would never work over here, cause the owner has to have all the paperwork with him when he goes to register it.
I wonder how this goes in other european countries?
Quote from: "Tem"Obviously I'm only driving in closed areas, like tracks and my backyard s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
how bigs your back yard FFS s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "Tem"Obviously I'm only driving in closed areas, like tracks and my backyard s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
how bigs your back yard FFS s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Didn't you know Tem has a racetrack within his 100 acres plot s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "Tem"I wonder how this goes in other european countries?
Good question - I only know about the rules in France & Germany really.. France don't allow any engine mods AFAIK, and Germany require the TUV approval..
England, of course, don't really care what you to do your car, as long as it passes an MOT s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
lol
I wonder if UK insurance companies would look on this more favourably given that it would be a factory fit option, as opposed to a third party kit.
Seems quite a good warranty if you are still within the 3 year period and you are paranoid about your engine blowing up. Might be something people would prefer come resale time as well rather than a third party turbo (for those people that are less in the know).
Quote from: "Hanslow"I wonder if UK insurance companies would look on this more favourably given that it would be a factory fit option, as opposed to a third party kit.
Seems quite a good warranty if you are still within the 3 year period and you are paranoid about your engine blowing up. Might be something people would prefer come resale time as well rather than a third party turbo (for those people that are less in the know).
Good points Hanslow, and there could well be a decent market for TTE because of this (if these people ever find out about it.....is the TTE being actively promoted to the '2 owning fraternity though?).
On the insurance issue, it would be nice to think that the underwriters are prepared to deal with factory-fit equipment, but I doubt their criteria are that cute! Looks like the owner will still have to do much of the legwork to get their insurers on side, but "factory-fit" and "approved" are a solid basis on which to start negotiating.
when I was insured with Dorset (underwritten by chaucer)
they commented that they would insure teh TTE because it was a Tioyota kit but no others.
seemed to apply to me but others got PEs insured with them.
I know it's not quite in the same league, but my TTE lowering springs were added to my insurance policy (Privilege) at no extra charge as they are a factory fit option. I'd hope that the turbo may be looked on more favourably by the insurers, but you know what they are like s;) ;) s;)
To be honest, the only knowledge I've got about the TTE turbo has been from here, so I doubt many people are aware of it s:( :( s:(
lets face it, the amount of money you would save not buying a TTE kit would easily pay for a few years increase in insurance premiums s:D :D s:D
That's true, but my concern over a turbo has always been the ability to sell it on afterwards as, IMHO, you will be severely limiting your market. I would assume that some people may prefer the TTE over others as it's endorsed by Toyota. Dunno though, just my thoughts s;) ;) s;) Mine's staying unfettled for the time being as I've plans to move on sometime between now and spring so it'd be a waste of money for me.
That is correct, you are limiting the market when selling the car with a turbo, thats why most of us keep the original parts so theres always the chance of selling it standard... s:) :) s:)
I think that was what Perry did...
Quote from: "dimwit"I think that was what Perry did...
correct he did, although it didn't look the same after he returned it to stock s:( :( s:(
Quote from: "aaronjb"France don't allow any engine mods AFAIK
none, whatsoever s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "aaronjb"England, of course, don't really care what you to do your car, as long as it passes an MOT s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
and you guys still wonder why we do hate brits so much? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
how much would it cost me to have a postal address in the UK (does anyone rent a drawer in their night table? s:lol: :lol: s:lol: ), register my car in the UK and get the insurance there? I mean, if that's the only "legal" way to drive a turbo in France... s:? :? s:? so be it s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "dreambackup"how much would it cost me to have a postal address in the UK (does anyone rent a drawer in their night table? s:lol: :lol: s:lol: ), register my car in the UK and get the insurance there? I mean, if that's the only "legal" way to drive a turbo in France... s:? :? s:? so be it s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Probably not that expensive, really..
Although you'd have to pay UK road tax as well (£150/yr ish for the Roadster) and get a UK MOT (£30-40 a year).. But, yup, legal turbo Roadster in France.
Although, speaking of the French hating the Brits - you'd be driving round with GB plates on all the time, that might not go down to well s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "aaronjb"Although, speaking of the French hating the Brits - you'd be driving round with GB plates on all the time, that might not go down to well s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
well, I could live with that s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
I'd buy myself a funny licence plate (I once saw a UK Mercedes owner with a funny plate: L100 BON meaning "she smells good"... you have to know there's a french word play with Mercedes... calling it something like "dry sh.t" s:lol: :lol: s:lol: ) and forget about anything else when driving a LEGAL turbo MR-S s8) 8) s8)
Ladies & Gents,
Essen is getting close and we have been offered some Free tickets should anyone wish to attend.
Much as I'd like to go, my diary won't allow this year.
If anyone is going and woudl liek tickets please post up and I will co-ordinate with TTE.
cheers,
Mark.
Yes! Yes, yes, yes!
what? me, please!
Any more is that the lot?
Count me in for the free tickets if there are any left. I was already planning to go!
guys can you PM me with yourreal names and teh dates you will be going.