Gary's Track Day/Fast Road Weekend Car 1zz Turbo.. Now Built 2zz Turbo with E153

Started by Gaz2405, March 11, 2019, 20:39

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Gaz2405

Just double checked my order on the drain its actually an An12! So around 19mm id.

Restrictor is around 1mm as far as I can remember.
 
Oil drain on the turbo is bang on under neath m, had to clock and remove locating pins on the turbo.
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thetyrant

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Ah ok same size fitting as mine i though AN16 was a bit big :D

Im suprised more with TTE/SP kits dont have issues with oil drain/turbo seals etc as the the angle turbo is mounted at means the drain is more like 5 or 7 o'clock position rather than direct underneath at 6 o'clock position, way its mounted there is always going to be some oil sat in bottom of turbo especially when car is parked on a slope and with cold/thicker oil not good for seals, it must just be good enough when everything is tiptop but far from ideal in my eyes so will be working to improve it and the pipework.

See pic below from Wotungando's TTE kit and mine is about same angle, not so easy to see but if you look at water feed pipe whici is 90deg on chra to oil exit its a long way off straight out/in as well, doesnt matter for water of course but shows angle of chra.

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Gaz2405

That surely mean the oil will have to reach certain level in the turbo before it even gets to the drains hole.

Mine is bang on 6 o'clock, I'd clock it to make sure. A couple of quid on braided hoses and few hours graft.
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thetyrant

Yes it will pool in bottom of turbo before it gets upto drain, it wont be a huge amount and shouldn't cause massive issue  but certainly not ideal and it should be as you have it direct at 6 o'clock so its easy as it can be for oil to drain, after all as there is only gravity to push it out! i will measure how far off level it is when i get a minute.

Im suprised toyota didnt do a better job in this regard as rest of tte setup looks pretty well engineered, it does mean that a stock clocked saab turbo goes straight on in regards to where they want the air outlet to go between block and driveshaft but its not a huge job to clock it all to get oil drain in better place as well, maybe i will find out why when i try to improve it on mine!
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thetyrant

Quick measure on my spare turbo looks like drain is 32degrees! away from optimum in stock clocked position so no wonder ive got oil drain issues, will update with more info and pictures on my build thread once i get it all off car and measure more accurately relative to engine etc.
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Gaz2405

Got a full weekend planned on 'fettling' the car this weekend as the wife is away in London with work.

Plans are to:

Strip all wheel arch liners out, clean behind rust treatment then stonechip piant.

Give the under body some rust treatment and stonechip protection.

Fit the Barbarian centre brace.

Slight reroute of the charge cooler piping underneath.

I've got a small 8" silencer to fit into the exhaust system.

Then get some of the drunk rusty items sorted and get the plastics back on.

Got home last night and got her up on axle stands ready for this morning.

Just out having coffee and breakfast before I start.

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Yes I know the garage needs a tidy.... 😂 But we're midway through an extension and have loads of other crap in there too.
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thetyrant

Enjoy....about to go and get my turbo pulled off for fettling myself :D
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Gaz2405

So busy day today on the car.

All wheels off arch liners out, surface rust rubbed down and kurust applied. Then three layers of stone chip.

All the crap from the front arches below.

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First arch done.

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Won't bore you with the rest once you've seen one wheel arch you've seen them all!

Gave the drunk area a going over as well with kurust and stone chip.

Same principle with the underside full rub down then kurust and black stone chip.

Then got onto the Barbarian centre brace.

I already have the Barbarian front which was very tight to get fitted and was pondering how the two might interface together.

Having elongated the rear holes to make fitment easier, the front brackets just weren't going to slide up inbetwee or over the existing front brace. There just wasn't enough room.

So I lobbed half of the front bracket off, the part that with the bolt holes in and decided to drill the bracket and chassis rail to provide a bettee fitment.

With the brackets newly modified I was able to get the brace up snug against the other.

A couple of pilot holes, the I dropped the brace down and put in some M10 rivnut into the chassis rail, having a decent impact gun was a godsend to get the rivnut to crimp up.

Once they were in brace then bolted Straight in, it's also enabled me to keep the original centre brace, but I do have a cusco one laying around but might put that up for sale.

Then moved onto the exhaust, a quicn mock up front the top now has an 8" silencer/muffler in.

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Tomorrow is getting the frunk plastic back on along with arch liners and start measuring up for some under body aero and fiishing up the exhaust.
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Gaz2405

Preparing for another day on the car, with another full English 😂 different cafe this time.

I've realised there's a couple of spots near where the rear Control arms mount that needs some rust treatment and stone chip so I'll get those done first thing.
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Gaz2405

Managed to get all the plastics back in the arches, silencer added to exhaust system and all back together.

That'll do for today.

You can see below how I've had to modify the centre brace bracket.

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thetyrant

Productive weekend :) , does it sound much different with that little silencer added in?   is suspect it wont do much for overall noise but should help with drone when cruising :D

Ive been busy with mine as well this weekend, just got it all back together but need to fabricate pipe for oil return once tube arrives then im good to fire up again.
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Gaz2405

It's not been out for a drive yet, but definitely quieter at idle.

Installed a 3.3ohm resistor yesterday for the airbag light for the steering wheel, had a bit of trouble getting it to register as the fitment wasn't quite as snug as I'd like, but a bit of solder over the legs to thicken them up worked a treat.

Although did find a quick way of deleting the lght altogether, airbag ECU behind the stereo pull out the first plug, no lght at all.

Bought some cheap 5mm foamex board 8 sheet of A1 for £10 to mock up a flat undertray and possible rear diffuser.

Front bumper wise think I'm going to go TRD style splitter with a flat slitter attached to that and TRD skirts or similar and most likley the HZ Dynamics bonnet for better flow through the radiator and create an air dam to feed it.

Still looking into rear aero, from research so far looks like big wang gang provides best down force, but I don't lile the look so will probably go for a ducktail.
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Gaz2405

So yeah, that thing when you go to check when your MOT runs out and find it ran out in November!

Ooooppps!

Did the mad panic and checked all the other cars in the house, luckily they're all still in in date. Campervan van is due March so caught that one in the nick of time!

I'll go for th text alert next time!

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1979scotte

Quote from: Gaz2405 on January 31, 2020, 09:06So yeah, that thing when you go to check when your MOT runs out and find it ran out in November!

Ooooppps!

Did the mad panic and checked all the other cars in the house, luckily they're all still in in date. Campervan van is due March so caught that one in the nick of time!

I'll go for th text alert next time!



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Gaz2405

Car is getting dropped off tomorrow at the garage for its MOT later in the week.

I'm pretty certain it should be OK on and go through.

Handbrake holds on our drive which is on a considerable slope if yanked all the way up.

But I did have a thought last night about emissions.

It's only running a 200 cell cat, idle afr is stoich,  but will have to check fast idle later.


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thetyrant

Will be interesting to see how it goes on emmisson test but hpoefully ok, a 200cell cat should pass if decent quality but will take some extra heating up i think, also will see how good your fueling map is for the Lambda etc :)  im guessing the PFC doesnt have closed loop fuelling control ?  ive just turned activated mine on the Link after spending ages getting fuelling as close as i could manually, pleased to see the closed loop isnt havent to do much (2-4% typically) to keep idle and cruise at 14.7 :)

Good luck :D
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Gaz2405

Yes it does have closed loop, but its very poor and lots of people in the states run it open.

Just set AFR's in the rev range for slow to fast idle and got all to around 14.7, so fingers crossed!


Worst case I'll go and sit in the car whilst they do the test and alter the mpa on the fly!
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Gaz2405

Pre mot check results are in, needs handbrake cables....😂

Also splashed out on some BRD front and rear engine mounts and a new oil feed braided line for the turbo as it was kinked.
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Gaz2405

Car now has another 12 months mot.

As a treat I've bought her some Molnar rods! 😜

Now need to make a decision on pistons and whether to go 0.5mm over bore or fully sleeved.... 🤔
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s12vea

Congrats on the mot pass

May the build commence
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WinstonTodge

Great thread and inspiring stuff.

Just in the stages of forging my motor at the moment for my MR... It's a 1.8t VAG unit with a K04-064 turbo though, so everyone just takes the piss.  :))

Interested in the results of your motor build.

Hope it all goes well.

C.

Gaz2405

Well less than two weeks after ordering them from the US, my molnar rods have arrived this morning.

Got a few bits to fit when I'm next working on her now, starting with new BRD engine bushes and new oil feed line as the old one had a slight kink in it.

Still undecided on pistons and whether to sleeve the block or not, anyone know power limits of 79.5mm pistons in a non sleeved block.

Gearbox isn't as issue, as I've promised myself a sequential instead of a new mtb this year 😂
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Gaz2405

A few bits done on the far last night and early this morning.

BRD engine mounts fitted, slightly more vibrations through the cockpit, but more than fine.

New oil feed braided hose fitted, exact replacement, juts to take out the kink in it.

Treated her to a wash now going out for a bit of mapping.

Also new rods are here woo hoo!

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Gaz2405

Brilliant day out in the car today, didn't miss a beat.

New charge cooler set up is working very well, highest intake temp of 32 all day after a serious beating!

So nice to have dry roads again!

On the hunt for some pistons now and doing a bit of research on whether Sleeve or not to sleeve!
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Gaz2405

Well decision made on pistons, just picked some up on ebay wiesco 82mm 3k done on them for £210..that'll do donkey that'll doo!
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