Mini supercharger on 1zz

Started by Carolyn, February 26, 2016, 19:14

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jvanzyl

Quote from: Gibla on December 17, 2020, 23:49Just for completeness, a few months elapsed Carolyn decided to sell the beastie, to recoup at least some of the outlay spent on this project. I purchased this wondrous car a couple of weeks ago and can confirm it does indeed fulfill and exceed all expectations of how it goes.
The supercharger really does transform this car onto a completely different level, giving instant power whenever demanded, Carolyn estimated 185 bhp....who knows, but it certainly is appreciably more powerful than stock.
Maybe to the disappointment of some, it will not be my intention to 'tinker around' with it whatsoever as long as it is running as sweetly as it is at the moment.
I simply enjoy driving, although can appreciate the engineering(both mechanical and electronic) that were lavished on this very successful project
What's it going to take for you to put it on a dyno and generate some numbers so we can see exactly what it produces and where?

shnazzle

Quote from: jvanzyl on December 18, 2020, 12:51
Quote from: Gibla on December 17, 2020, 23:49Just for completeness, a few months elapsed Carolyn decided to sell the beastie, to recoup at least some of the outlay spent on this project. I purchased this wondrous car a couple of weeks ago and can confirm it does indeed fulfill and exceed all expectations of how it goes.
The supercharger really does transform this car onto a completely different level, giving instant power whenever demanded, Carolyn estimated 185 bhp....who knows, but it certainly is appreciably more powerful than stock.
Maybe to the disappointment of some, it will not be my intention to 'tinker around' with it whatsoever as long as it is running as sweetly as it is at the moment.
I simply enjoy driving, although can appreciate the engineering(both mechanical and electronic) that were lavished on this very successful project
What's it going to take for you to put it on a dyno and generate some numbers so we can see exactly what it produces and where?
Bit pointless without the "pre"
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Carolyn

Why spend the money ,when you're happy with what it does?  You can find out for your self on Ding Day!

Anyway, dynos are engine wreckers!
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Topdownman

I am not sure if I would want to listen to my car on a rolling road but if you really must know, these are the people who tuned my GT86;

https://www.tuningdevelopments.uk/rolling.php?language=en

Rolling road from £60.

Nice people and they have a good reputation on the GT86 forums.
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Gibla

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@Topdownman

That's not too far away from me

I have looked in vain for a postcode to give a precise location.....can you help please?

ps

Not especially for the rolling road + just found the info

32 Melford Court,
Hardwick Grange,
Birchwood,
Warrington,
Cheshire
WA1 4RZ
stock 2001 Dark Green MR-S (6R4)
stock 2004 Black - repurchased from guy who bought yellow 'un

Topdownman

Looks like you have found the info now and they are shown on google maps as to where exactly they are?

They were hard to find the first time I went there and Mike was taking someone out in their turbo demonstrator  when I turned up and he stopped in the road, asked if I was looking for them and gave me directions!

I thought the location would be pretty good for you. Last time I was there they were considering moving into North Wales but I guess that is on hold.
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1979scotte

If your happy don't put it on a dyno it really stresses the engine and drivetrain.
Also sometimes finding out your 250bhp install only has 170 can be a tad disappointing.
This then leads to upgraditis down which is the road to ruin.
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Carolyn

PLEASE keep it away from dynos. :)
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Ardent

I find myself in a curious position. Jekyll n Hyde, hypocrite, two faced or whatever.

I do enjoy watching dyno runs on youtube. Adore listening to a 2zz or K20 or anything for that matter on full taps.

Would I put mine there? Hell No.

Ardent

Quote from: Carolyn on December 18, 2020, 14:58PLEASE keep it away from dynos. :)

I think the bum dyno is all that's required here.
Does it make you smile? Yes!
That's enough then.

Gibla

Quote from: Carolyn on December 18, 2020, 14:58PLEASE keep it away from dynos. :)

We did discuss this .....it 'aint seeing a dyno (I take your advice)
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puma2

 :) sometime in life Just is enough hay.
you got sometime special there and if your happy use it as it is :)

why try and  find out what it can be, when happy is what it is :)

take the builders advice  8)  8)

Petrus

#812
Get the accurate weight, find a straight bit of horizontal road and a tuning app will come quite close. Closer still if you can do same with a stock car, thus can compare.
You can download good enough app for free and it puts no extra stress on the engine/transmission.

Gibla

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Quote from: Petrus on December 19, 2020, 15:56Get the accurate weight, find a straight bit of horizontal road and a tuning app will come quite close. Closer still if you can do same with a stock car, thus can compare.
You can download good enough app for free and it puts no extra stress on the engine/transmission.


Any clues as to what are good tuning apps @Petrus ?

Today was another horrible day regarding the weather, but I did give the car something closer to the beans today, and still well under 7000rpm red-line

My estimate would be 0-60mph in under 6 secs, 0-(erm. ain't saying more officer) in ....poa.
stock 2001 Dark Green MR-S (6R4)
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Petrus

Quote from: Gibla on December 19, 2020, 16:20Any clues as to what are good tuning apps @Petrus ?


I have used several and it really makes no difference.
Have look at what pops up the app store of yoúr phone and look those up on the web.
All you need it secure the phone horizontally on the floor and .... floor the car :-) and repeat a few times.
The actual numbers are nice to know only.
Repeat with an OEM and you have an accurate, hard % comparison as any dyno can give. For free, more fun and less hassle.

Carolyn

Some of the functions are bring done by the parallel ECU (Speeduino).  The software for that is on the DVD you got with the car.

The rest are done by the Toyota ECU.

A lot of runs went into tuning the car.  I do suggest you leave the tune well alone.  By all means take a look at what's going on, though. ;D
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Petrus

Quote from: Carolyn on December 19, 2020, 17:41Some of the functions are bring done by the parallel ECU (Speeduino).  The software for that is on the DVD you got with the car.
....
A lot of runs went into tuning the car. 
....
By all means take a look at what's going on, though. ;D

That is übercool; ´video game´ and performance app included :-)

Gibla

Quote from: Carolyn on December 19, 2020, 17:41Some of the functions are bring done by the parallel ECU (Speeduino).  The software for that is on the DVD you got with the car.

The rest are done by the Toyota ECU.

A lot of runs went into tuning the car.  I do suggest you leave the tune well alone.  By all means take a look at what's going on, though. ;D

Really am a philistine and a technophobe rolled into one, there is zero prospect of me plugging anything into the ECU ....rest assured Carolyn. The car is running wonderfully, my 0-60 estimate is of far more importance to me than some abstract bhp number. 
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1979scotte

If we belive the car to be producing 185 ish then I would imagine it would be 0-60 in the low 5s.
The tte turbo was sub 6 and that had to spool up something a root's supercharger doesn't have to contend with.
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Gibla

That's an interesting 0-60 estimate @1979scotte, my ~ was done at only about 6200rpm max, so still some scope for even better acceleration eh?

But, even though surrounded by some fantastic empty roads around here, I only plan to push the car to such acceleration very briefly on an occasional basis only(very few cameras or police, however........)
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Petrus

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Quote from: 1979scotte on December 19, 2020, 18:55If we belive the car to be producing 185 ish then I would imagine it would be 0-60 in the low 5s.
The tte turbo was sub 6 and that had to spool up something a root's supercharger doesn't have to contend with.

Hmmm. From stock car doing low/mid 8s to 5 secs is rather quick.

Here is a generic power/weight 0 - 60 calculator (do add the driver):

https://www.carspecs.us/calculator/0-60

1979scotte

Also most sane people don't launch the cars in the same way motoring journalists do so you're unlikely to match manufactures figures.
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1979scotte

Quote from: Petrus on December 19, 2020, 19:24
Quote from: 1979scotte on December 19, 2020, 18:55If we belive the car to be producing 185 ish then I would imagine it would be 0-60 in the low 5s.
The tte turbo was sub 6 and that had to spool up something a root's supercharger doesn't have to contend with.

Hmmm. From stock car doing low/mid 8s to 5 secs is rather quick.

Here is a generic power/weight 0 - 60 calculator:

https://www.carspecs.us/calculator/0-60

EVO magazine had the roadster at under 8 seconds.
The TTE turbo is 100% sub 6 every review I've read agrees with my butt dyno that they're quick.
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Gibla

Quote from: Petrus on December 19, 2020, 19:24
Quote from: 1979scotte on December 19, 2020, 18:55If we belive the car to be producing 185 ish then I would imagine it would be 0-60 in the low 5s.
The tte turbo was sub 6 and that had to spool up something a root's supercharger doesn't have to contend with.

Hmmm. From stock car doing low/mid 8s to 5 secs is rather quick.

Here is a generic power/weight 0 - 60 calculator (do add the driver):

https://www.carspecs.us/calculator/0-60

Assuming 185bhp and the weight inc. driver to be 2550 lbs that gives an estimate of 5.98 secs using that calculator
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shnazzle

TTE has to be sub-6.

We've had a couple 5-6 second cars and when Helen's was running the nasty/dangerous dastek tune at full boost (peak 12psi) it felt a good bit faster than any of those cars. So a "stock" TTE setup, which sounds similar to the SC, must be 6 seconds tops.
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