Quote from: rusty0273 on October  1, 2020, 09:59Never heard of these before. Thanks for the write-up.

No me either until i spotted them on demon tweeks site, this got me researching and plenty of good feedback from those using/testing so thought i would give them a try, so far no regrets

2006 Tf300 040 Owned for 7 years. (ex Toyota mechanic 1994-99)BMW motorbike mechanic now.

Wheels OEM 15x6 Toyo Proxes tr1  185/55r15
          16x7 Toyo Proxes tr1  215/45r16

These tyres were fitted to my car when I bought it. I have owned a car with these on before and never had cause for complaint,but on the mr2 they are shocking, to say they have good grip in the dry, well thats the only thing thats good,but what tyres do you know that are bad in the dry
The price is ok but in the wet they are not suited to spirited driving, (they might be good for drifting) once that back end goes you are not getting it back !!
I would never buy these tyres.
Like on a motorbike the tyres are the most important bit on the vehicle, they are the first and last thing that stops you sliding off the road, More than any other item that you could buy for your MR2, the tyres are the only thing that would make your car safer and improve your lap time.
I would love to run R888's all year for stickyness and looks, but don't have cash to waste and they are rubbish in the wet when cold.
This car is my daily driver so because its more wet than dry in this country I would reccomend some good wet weather or all-seasons tyres. I have owned this car for about 7 years now and since I had an argument with a kerb (with the TOYO's) and also driven in snow and nearly died (also with the Toyo's), I have run:-

oem front 6x15 Michelin Alpin A4 185/55r15
oem rear  7x16 Michelin Alpin A4 215/45r16
about 2 years ago I tried Good Year Vector 4seasons gen2 or 3

As soon as you drive with these you notice that they are more 'squidgey' like the side walls are softer but I dont think they are its just the softer tread or a mix of both.
These winter/all-season tyres are very good, the grip level in the dry is higher than the Toyo's, and in the wet it is like night and day, for example If I set off like an Idiot in first gear in the wet, sliding the back end with the toyo's, when I let off the accelerator the car keeps sliding (sometimes into a kerb) you are already on opposite lock trying to correct the slide but it is not fun and usually you end up overcorrecting and spinning the other way. With the Michelins they take a lot more throttle just to make them spin, but they will still slide, when you are sliding and you let off the accelerator they grip straight away (well loads better than any other tyre I have tried).
In the wet and horrible wet wintery conditions when the roads are slimy with salt they feel safe and very secure.
The greater grip level can be felt at all times compared to the Toyos.
I run them all year and they dont wear out loads quicker. They are not cheap, the last time I bought some new ones they were £400 for the set but I had to shop around. Since then I have bought neary new, or new ones off ebay with 7+mm on them at lots cheaper prices.They would be no good on a track, but it is good fun when it snows driving round and past  4x4's.
Aww I miss working on Toyota's, but they are not the same now. Thats why I like Mr2's the're proper jap lad, one of the last good proper jap sports cars from toyota.
BMW's (there not Jap lad).

Quote from: toyoda on November 16, 2020, 02:152006 Tf300 040 Owned for 7 years. (ex Toyota mechanic 1994-99)Indicatorless wonder motorbike mechanic now.

Wheels OEM 15x6 Toyo Proxes tr1  185/55r15
          16x7 Toyo Proxes tr1  215/45r16

These tyres were fitted to my car when I bought it. I have owned a car with these on before and never had cause for complaint,but on the mr2 they are shocking, to say they have good grip in the dry, well thats the only thing thats good,but what tyres do you know that are bad in the dry
The price is ok but in the wet they are not suited to spirited driving, (they might be good for drifting) once that back end goes you are not getting it back !!
I would never buy these tyres.
Like on a motorbike the tyres are the most important bit on the vehicle, they are the first and last thing that stops you sliding off the road, More than any other item that you could buy for your MR2, the tyres are the only thing that would make your car safer and improve your lap time.
I would love to run R888's all year for stickyness and looks, but don't have cash to waste and they are rubbish in the wet when cold.
This car is my daily driver so because its more wet than dry in this country I would reccomend some good wet weather or all-seasons tyres. I have owned this car for about 7 years now and since I had an argument with a kerb (with the TOYO's) and also driven in snow and nearly died (also with the Toyo's), I have run:-

oem front 6x15 Michelin Alpin A4 185/55r15
oem rear  7x16 Michelin Alpin A4 215/45r16
about 2 years ago I tried Good Year Vector 4seasons gen2 or 3

As soon as you drive with these you notice that they are more 'squidgey' like the side walls are softer but I dont think they are its just the softer tread or a mix of both.
These winter/all-season tyres are very good, the grip level in the dry is higher than the Toyo's, and in the wet it is like night and day, for example If I set off like an Idiot in first gear in the wet, sliding the back end with the toyo's, when I let off the accelerator the car keeps sliding (sometimes into a kerb) you are already on opposite lock trying to correct the slide but it is not fun and usually you end up overcorrecting and spinning the other way. With the Michelins they take a lot more throttle just to make them spin, but they will still slide, when you are sliding and you let off the accelerator they grip straight away (well loads better than any other tyre I have tried).
In the wet and horrible wet wintery conditions when the roads are slimy with salt they feel safe and very secure.
The greater grip level can be felt at all times compared to the Toyos.
I run them all year and they dont wear out loads quicker. They are not cheap, the last time I bought some new ones they were £400 for the set but I had to shop around. Since then I have bought neary new, or new ones off ebay with 7+mm on them at lots cheaper prices.They would be no good on a track, but it is good fun when it snows driving round and past  4x4's.
Aww I miss working on Toyota's, but they are not the same now. Thats why I like Mr2's the're proper jap lad, one of the last good proper jap sports cars from toyota.
Indicatorless wonder's (there not Jap lad).

I don't like T1R but they're not that bad they must be well passed their best or there is another issues somewhere.

Tyres again, thats a surprise

Well I run the Toyo's and they are TR1 not T1R and to be honest found them fine in the dry when warmed up, my MR2 does go out in the rain but I just pootle about then, so again, not had any issues

As a fellow biker, you are correct, tyre choice is key, but 100% to the application of your riding/driving, one mans "fast" on ABC tyres is another mans "slow" on XYZ tyres

Rob

I do agree with you both,the toyo's were about 500miles old when I bought the car it was one of the selling points.
Maybe I expected more in the wet but like you say there are other factors to it, also the roads round here are not great, a lot of cambered to the centre with potholes in the verges.
Thank you for your replies.

Quote from: toyoda on November 19, 2020, 13:03I do agree with you both,the toyo's were about 500miles old when I bought the car it was one of the selling points.
Maybe I expected more in the wet but like you say there are other factors to it, also the roads round here are not great, a lot of cambered to the centre with potholes in the verges.
Thank you for your replies.

I'm Sorry for any confusion they were T1R's not tr1's as I said they were.

2000 W reg original 15'' wheels all round (Carolyn supercharger project beastie)

ordered differently, but received + fitted by Kwik-Fit today (mobile service £320 all told)

185/55/15 front Continental Eco 6 x2

205/50/15 rear Continental Premium Contact 2 x2

Ordered Yokahama, received these instead on the understanding that Premium Contact 2(PC2) all round, it was only after doing an 80 odd mile drive in the wet the fronts were not in fact PC2 however ....

Drove at max 7/10ths(as very wet and still a relatively newish car to me) 

Ride good, fairly firm but still compliant

Handling really good, most impressed with the grip levels.

So the Eco 6 were ok, but I would never have chosen them in the first place, it does go to show that the undriven front wheels can have relatively modest spec tyres, and still give a decent result. Obviously the same couldn't be said for the rears, where choice in the standard size is very limited, and the PC2 was not even listed by Kwik-Fit as an option on their web-site

replaced the very tired AD08R with some.
Fronts

Rears


Far to early to offer anything more constructive than fresh rubber is better than 20k worn out rubber.
No bends yet. Just fitters n back. But observations so far. Quieter. Undeniable better grip on these slimy roads.
But they should be, as the 08s were spent.

Quote from: Ardent on December 17, 2020, 22:18replaced the very tired AD08R with some.
Fronts

Rears


Far to early to offer anything more constructive than fresh rubber is better than 20k worn out rubber.
No bends yet. Just fitters n back. But observations so far. Quieter. Undeniable better grip on these slimy roads.
But they should be, as the 08s were spent.

Maybe my ineptitude, but I cannot enlarge the piccies to see the size or make

@Gibla

Have a look on the what have you done to your 2 thread. Better pics there.
Page 58 I think.

Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 12:21Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

Not enough reviews of "budget" tyres on here. 

Thanks @SteveHarvey73.

There's a lot to say about value for money

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 12:21Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

As a carry over from another thread. Do pay attention to what the load rating of the tyre is, vs the OEM spec. (sticker in bottom of glove box)
Note if the Nokians are standard load, or labeled XL or extra load or re-inforced. Can have a bearing on correct inflation.
Worth spending a bit of time on this to get things right. 

Quote from: shnazzle on February 25, 2021, 18:51

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 12:21Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

Not enough reviews of "budget" tyres on here.

Thanks @SteveHarvey73.

There's a lot to say about value for money

Not sure Nokian would be happy being called budget, they are a Finnish brand best known for winter rubber but their summer tyres come out well in the comparisons.

Useful review here.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Tyre-Reviews-Ultimate-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm

On balance I went with the Nokian option as it seemed a really good allrounder, with no glaring weaknesses. I won't be tracking the car and wanted decent wet grip.

Quote from: Ardent on February 25, 2021, 19:08

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 12:21Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

As a carry over from another thread. Do pay attention to what the load rating of the tyre is, vs the OEM spec. (sticker in bottom of glove box)
Note if the Nokians are standard load, or labeled XL or extra load or re-inforced. Can have a bearing on correct inflation.
Worth spending a bit of time on this to get things right. 

OK, thanks - the Nokian Wetproof are XL/re-inforced, currently running them at 26psi. They felt OK. Seems I have a few things to learn in this regard though!

@SteveHarvey73

Most of us here are aware of Nokian and their winter tyres. Never considered them for summer rubber so thanks for that.
From the point of view of someone that generally fits yokohama AD08R on their 2 nokians are pretty budget.
Yoko are £95
Goodyear £90
Uni royal £80

Admittedly fully fitted prices

Didn't mean to offend. I guess I have grown accustomed to tyres 85gbp and over.

Quote from: 1979scotte on February 25, 2021, 21:26@SteveHarvey73

Most of us here are aware of Nokian and their winter tyres. Never considered them for summer rubber so thanks for that.
From the point of view of someone that generally fits yokohama AD08R on their 2 nokians are pretty budget.
Yoko are £95
Goodyear £90
Uni royal £80

Admittedly fully fitted prices

I used to run Yokos on my race car. I considered Yoko ADO8R but couldn't source any and have seen negative feedback on the later AD08RS so looked elsewhere. Budget has pretty negative associations and might put people off my recommendation, so just trying to highlight my view of them being good tyres at any price - all in per corner was just over £70.

All the best.

Cheers,

Steve.

I am after some new tyres and if they have these in my sizes I may give them a try. 
Need 195/50/15 and 225/45/16

Quote from: shnazzle on February 26, 2021, 08:23I am after some new tyres and if they have these in my sizes I may give them a try.
Need 195/50/15 and 225/45/16

Why so big?

Quote from: 1979scotte on February 26, 2021, 08:37

Quote from: shnazzle on February 26, 2021, 08:23I am after some new tyres and if they have these in my sizes I may give them a try.
Need 195/50/15 and 225/45/16

Why so big?

195 front as I'm on 7in wheels in front. And 225 rear because I like how that grips vs 215.
It's not THAT big. It's only 1 size up from stock

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 20:39

Quote from: Ardent on February 25, 2021, 19:08

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 12:21Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

As a carry over from another thread. Do pay attention to what the load rating of the tyre is, vs the OEM spec. (sticker in bottom of glove box)
Note if the Nokians are standard load, or labeled XL or extra load or re-inforced. Can have a bearing on correct inflation.
Worth spending a bit of time on this to get things right. 

OK, thanks - the Nokian Wetproof are XL/re-inforced, currently running them at 26psi. They felt OK. Seems I have a few things to learn in this regard though!

What is the load rating of the tyre?

Quote from: shnazzle on February 26, 2021, 08:39

Quote from: 1979scotte on February 26, 2021, 08:37

Quote from: shnazzle on February 26, 2021, 08:23I am after some new tyres and if they have these in my sizes I may give them a try.
Need 195/50/15 and 225/45/16

Why so big?

195 front as I'm on 7in wheels in front. And 225 rear because I like how that grips vs 215.
It's not THAT big. It's only 1 size up from stock

I must not drive hard enough because I really enjoy 185 205.
Or maybe I need more torque? 🤔
Although as @s12vea will confirm its pretty lively in the wet.

Quote from: Ardent on February 26, 2021, 09:48

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 20:39

Quote from: Ardent on February 25, 2021, 19:08

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 12:21Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

As a carry over from another thread. Do pay attention to what the load rating of the tyre is, vs the OEM spec. (sticker in bottom of glove box)
Note if the Nokians are standard load, or labeled XL or extra load or re-inforced. Can have a bearing on correct inflation.
Worth spending a bit of time on this to get things right. 

OK, thanks - the Nokian Wetproof are XL/re-inforced, currently running them at 26psi. They felt OK. Seems I have a few things to learn in this regard though!

What is the load rating of the tyre?

He's on one now @Dev has set him on the path.

Quote from: Ardent on February 26, 2021, 09:48

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 20:39

Quote from: Ardent on February 25, 2021, 19:08

Quote from: SteveHarvey73 on February 25, 2021, 12:21Have just put on a set of Nokian Wetproof 185 55 R15 on the front of my MR2, as it had mismatched tyres across the front axle when I bought the car (a budget and a cheap yoko) - have kept the Avon ZV7s on the rear as they seem OK and have plenty of tread left.

Nokian do supply the right size 215 45 R16 for the rear also in case you are interested!

First impressions on a brief wet drive home from the tyre fitters down some cruddy b-roads, is that they are great tyres - confidence inspiring on the road. Happy so far.

Tyres supplied by Camskill at £52 per corner, plus delivery. Local tyre place charges me £15 per tyre to fit and balance.

Hope this might help you to decide.

Cheers,

Steve.

As a carry over from another thread. Do pay attention to what the load rating of the tyre is, vs the OEM spec. (sticker in bottom of glove box)
Note if the Nokians are standard load, or labeled XL or extra load or re-inforced. Can have a bearing on correct inflation.
Worth spending a bit of time on this to get things right. 

OK, thanks - the Nokian Wetproof are XL/re-inforced, currently running them at 26psi. They felt OK. Seems I have a few things to learn in this regard though!

What is the load rating of the tyre?

They are 86H.