Problem with rear view mirror.

Started by Dev, November 29, 2022, 16:03

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Dev

 My Mirror is not holding its position and is flopping down. This is due to the age and vibrations since I have poly engine mounts. It only does it rarely if there is a strong vibration at take off at a particular RPM otherwise the car is smooth all around including idle. It happened for the first time on the last drive of the season three times.
 I do not want to replace the mirror because I am afraid that the mounting will be very hard to remove since it's been on the car from the factory so I want to avoid it at all costs. 

 Is there anything I can add to the joint to make it rough so it holds its position.
I was thinking of trying some blue thread locker and setting it to buy myself some time.





 

Joesson

@Dev, I did manage to remove and replace my (2002) interior rear view mirror some years ago, when I fitted a dash cam, so likely possible, but for such an item you likely want a more positive / detailed response.
However, I do recall a film where the Italian style of driving/ racing was shown by the removal of the mirror!
Someone on here, iirc, did something very similar, no names though, in case the GC are reading this!

Dev

Thanks Tony. Now you have me thinking of the usefulness of having a dash cam rear view mirror. This might actually be a smart move in this day and age of diving mishaps of he said she said. 


Joesson

Quote from: Dev on November 29, 2022, 17:49Thanks Tony. Now you have me thinking of the usefulness of having a dash cam rear view mirror. This might actually be a smart move in this day and age of diving mishaps of he said she said. 



My mention of the film was light hearted. We visited New York one time on our wedding anniversary. I thought Breakfast at Tiffany's would be nice. I telephoned the store to enquire and the receptionist advised  "That's only in the movies"!

Dev

Quote from: Joesson on November 29, 2022, 19:03My mention of the film was light hearted. We visited New York one time on our wedding anniversary. I thought Breakfast at Tiffany's would be nice. I telephoned the store to enquire and the receptionist advised  "That's only in the movies"!

Hilarious.
That's one crazy messed up degenerate movie. People romance about what they think it's about but when I explain it to them they hate me for it.

 


Bossworld

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Dev, from your previous posts you strike me as someone with a good amount of mechanical sympathy. Follow at your own risk as I've not got a car to reference but it's not as fragile as it may appear.

The stock mirror will come off from the windscreen mount, I had to do it to trial reversing the rear neck position (has been posted about before for taller drivers). https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?topic=67557.0

From memory, the square piece that touches the screen slowly, but firmly pushes upwards towards the roof. Once removed you can see there is something resembling a built in circlip that keeps it attached to the screen's bonded protrusion, once slipped over.

It then sounds like you may need a replacement mirror (if slack has developed between the ball and mirror) but at least if you can get the mirror plus neck off in one piece, you will be able to see what you're working with

Dev

Quote from: Bossworld on November 29, 2022, 22:42Dev, from your previous posts you strike me as someone with a good amount of mechanical sympathy. Follow at your own risk as I've not got a car to reference but it's not as fragile as it may appear.

The stock mirror will come off from the windscreen mount, I had to do it to trial reversing the rear neck position (has been posted about before for taller drivers). https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?topic=67557.0

From memory, the square piece that touches the screen slowly, but firmly pushes upwards towards the roof. Once removed you can see there is something resembling a built in circlip that keeps it attached to the screen's bonded protrusion, once slipped over.

It then sounds like you may need a replacement mirror (if slack has developed between the ball and mirror) but at least if you can get the mirror plus neck off in one piece, you will be able to see what you're working with

Thanks.
What worries me is someone  in the past reported the stalk frozen on the windshield. I have not explored it yet but I think I should as you suggest and give it a try.  If it comes off I will buy another from a wrecker. I thought maybe there is an easier way to solve this by giving the ball socket more grip. 

Petrus

Quote from: Joesson on November 29, 2022, 17:32I do recall a film where the Italian style of driving/ racing was shown by the removal of the mirror!
Someone on here, iirc, did something very similar, no names though, in case the GC are reading this!

I remove mine every year. Only refit it for peridiotic inspection. It is not obligatory when you have two side mirrors (a bit more to it for newer cars) but it avoids the issue. Very simple pull and unclip.

steveash

Two thoughts. I have carbon seat pin on my mountain bike and as you can't clamp it as hard as metal I have some 'carbon gripper paste' to stop it moving. It might just work.

Alternatively, Zoom Engineering do a bespoke mirror arm (G03) for our car so you can fit one of their rather cool mirrors.

Dev

Quote from: steveash on December  4, 2022, 21:19Two thoughts. I have carbon seat pin on my mountain bike and as you can't clamp it as hard as metal I have some 'carbon gripper paste' to stop it moving. It might just work.

Alternatively, Zoom Engineering do a bespoke mirror arm (G03) for our car so you can fit one of their rather cool mirrors.

 I like the clamp idea. It has me thinking I could use some very strong black electrical tape wound tightly. It just might arrest the movement and dampen vibrations so I don't have to replace anything since I am the only driver and never touch the rear view adjustment.




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