TTE Turbo ... any more news?

Started by Anonymous, September 21, 2003, 09:57

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markiii

#25
Quote from: "Emmanuel"
Quote from: "markiii"Where I do it, I'd install myself and then go to somewhere good to tune it.

Would it not invalidate your warranty?  After all, that's the main reason for going for the TTE one.

An interesting point.

Let Toyota install it, know they'll stuff it up, but cover the mess by warranty.

Or do it myself with no warranty?

Whilst I take your point it's going to have to be very cheap to begin with, if the cost of main dealer labour isn't going to make it the most expensive option on the market.

With the greatest respect to what Martin has acheived, I have an idea what he's spent to date, and with fitting by a main dealer I wouldn't expect the TTE to be much cheaper. If I'm going to spend that kind of money I'd be tempted o change the car  s:-( :-( s:-(
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Anonymous

#26
yeah, this is the problem.  The price point has to be such that I don't say to myself, "sod that, I'll trade up to a [boxster/elise/etc....]".

Tem

#27
Quote from: "markiii"Let Toyota install it, know they'll stuff it up, but cover the mess by warranty.

Or do it myself with no warranty?

At least over here the TTE supercharger for IS200 doesn't affect cars warranty if installed by dealer. If you install it yourself, the warranty of the car expires (not fully, but for the engine and transmission and so on).

But the kit itself has a years warranty, even if you install it yourself. So if your Roadster is already out of warranty, like the first already are, it makes no difference if you install it yourself or have the dealer install it.

(assuming this kit will go by the same rules, if it ever comes out)
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

mph

#28
Quote from: "Tem"I don't need any support for it, I can tune it myself...obviously only on a dyno and with a guy who knows what he's doing, but just meant I don't need any expert to change the values on PFC.
Yes you do need support. Sure you might have the little handheld thing, but without the full laptop software to see the spreadsheets, create the mappings across the different parameter sets etc etc, you're really severely hampered. Neither are there any guys over in Europe that really know how this box runs and more importantly what quirks it has. As for not plug and play - having to splice a few wires in the scheme of things this doesn't even register.
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Tem

#29
Quote from: "mph"Sure you might have the little handheld thing, but without the full laptop software to see the spreadsheets, create the mappings across the different parameter sets etc etc, you're really severely hampered.

Well...obviously that would be the easiest way. And I believe the Datalogit does just that. Please don't ignore this great piece of software  s;) ;) s;)

Anyway, since the dyno software already produces those charts, I really don't see the need for getting the same values to laptop. Maybe I'm just missing some point here...


Quote from: "mph"As for not plug and play - having to splice a few wires in the scheme of things this doesn't even register.

It's a huge bonus for me, if I can do something and then return it to the 100% stock state if I want to. It's a matter of personal opinion I guess.
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

Anonymous

#30
Quote from: "markiii":lol:   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

It should come with instructions, spend a couple of hundred on a good socket set and the workshop manuals.

Now all you need is patience. It's only a matter of undoing bolts replacing parts (ok theres some additional piping) and putting bolts back in. It's not particluarly technical and you certianly don't need to know a lot about engines or turbos. Just take your time and be thorough.

If you can do Ikea furniture it should be a sinch.

I'd probably get the piggyback installed if it had one, as theres the chance of stuffing up there, but everything else shouldn't be that hard.

I agree.If anyone has changed their exhaust and header themselves before then they can INSTALL the turbo themselves.It is really simple, took me 3hours total, on my own, but i had a pre-modded sump which saved about an hour.

Tuning it is the specialists job, and finding the specialists in this country is a nightmare.How many Toyota dealers have rolling roads so they'll be able to tune then turbo after install???  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  My e-manage came pre-programmed and the only place i have found in the country is in Manchester that have experience with it.

They'll probably release this turbo package with 4.5psi, a pre set piggy back system that is tuned on the conservative side so it will work "well" on all '2s with no tuning with a plug in harness,or no piggyback ecu at all as at that low a pressure the stock ecu is said to be able to compensate enough!,install it in 1 day,charge £4k+ and with only 30-40bhp increase,will leave you wanting more.  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:  

Don't know how many are thinking more about warranty or that TTE are going to release a better system than what's presently available but the PE can be bought for less than 3k, you can choose your own piggyback system that your nearest garage can confidently tune,and as Martin did with Millway, work together to make it all work.

Worth waiting though to see what they do release, then make your minds up then.

Anonymous

#31
c'mon, Lay the cards down, turbo-guys.
How much have your custom systems cost you?

Anonymous

#32
I bought MonkeyWrenchs used turbo. This saved me some money.The e-manage was pre-programmed by them and i also bought the profec e-01, which costs about £400,this isn't really needed so shouldn't be included in a price for a starter kit.It cost £2900 for everything including shipping for mine.There is import duty to pay but there are ways around it being alot.

I installed everthing myself, so no cost there.Car is running fine at 6.5psi MWR pre-programming is great but as expected to be cautious they tuned it to run rich on boost and retarded the timing.

Total as it is £2900   s:o :o s:o  

List of other bits waiting to go on before it's properly tuned.

Anonymous

#33
Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"I bought MonkeyWrenchs used turbo. This saved me some money.The e-manage was pre-programmed by them and i also bought the profec e-01, which costs about £400,this isn't really needed so shouldn't be included in a price for a starter kit.It cost £2900 for everything including shipping for mine.There is import duty to pay but there are ways around it being alot.

I installed everthing myself, so no cost there.Car is running fine at 6.5psi MWR pre-programming is great but as expected to be cautious they tuned it to run rich on boost and retarded the timing.

Total as it is £2900   s:o :o s:o  

List of other bits waiting to go on before it's properly tuned.

Hey mr-s turbo,

If you don't mind, could you post up your e-manage settings that MWR had on your e-manage @ 6.5 psi?  Thanks.

Anonymous

#34
What about running costs?

Anonymous

#35
143 i will PM them to you.Won't be till weekend, if thats ok.

Running costs so far are not more than standard.Using more fuel obviously and i've changed the oil/filter twice since install just incase.But apart from that you wouldn't know it was there.   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Tem

#36
Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"But apart from that you wouldn't know it was there.   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

I think you need to raise the boost then  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

Anonymous

#37
Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"143 i will PM them to you.Won't be till weekend, if thats ok.

That'd be great, thanks!   s:D :D s:D

Anonymous

#38
Quote from: "Tem"I think you need to raise the boost then  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:

  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Anonymous

#39
Perhaps Victor could shed more light on this turbo:
http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6319

Anonymous

#40
Quote from: "Jonny Turbo"Perhaps Victor could shed more light on this turbo:
http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6319

I havent been following this topic. I guess the Turbo would be too expensive for me  s:( :( s:(  However, I took  a quick look at the Lampka website, which at the moment is being re-designed and there isnt mush there other than a statement they design turbos for the MR2 W30 and can provide more info on request.

Maybe someone wants to drop them a request.

Anonymous

#41
Quote from: "victor"
Quote from: "Jonny Turbo"Perhaps Victor could shed more light on this turbo:
http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6319

I havent been following this topic. I guess the Turbo would be too expensive for me  s:( :( s:(  However, I took  a quick look at the Lampka website, which at the moment is being re-designed and there isnt mush there other than a statement they design turbos for the MR2 W30 and can provide more info on request.

Maybe someone wants to drop them a request.

Sorry Victor, I guess just because you live there....etc..etc.
I'll drop a line.

Tem

#42
There's quite a bit of info on the german Roadster-board about the lampka turbokit. Starting from early development times. Lots of interesting reading...even though my german sucks and I had to live with Altavistas translations.

Sorry, don't have the url on this computer...anyone else?
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

Anonymous

#43
Thing is this is gonna be another turbo using a piggy back system that will cost about the same as the rest, everone will wait till somone has tried it before even considering it, invalidate toyota warranty still.The PE kit is available now, used by many, available as a base kit for <3k. What more from a turbo system do you want that the others don't offer (apart from TTE's possibly not affecting warranty)?

Tem

#44
Quote from: "mr-s_turbo"What more from a turbo system do you want that the others don't offer (apart from TTE's possibly not affecting warranty)?

Personally, I want it to be smog-legal. Otherwise I can't install it legally. And I don't wanna do it illegally, cause if something happens, all sh*t will break loose. If Toyota ever offers TTE turbokit, it will be smog-legal.
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

Slacey

#45
Ex 2002 Black / Red Leather Hass Turbo

MadMigMR2

#46
it was me who was at lamka and made a test drive on the car (passenger seat   s:? :? s:?  )

I will probably buy one kit from lampka if tte doesn't release one.


The setup looks very good and expensive, but don't forget that the prices they are giving is including install and tuning.
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Anonymous

#47
Quote from: "MadMigMR2"it was me who was at lamka and made a test drive on the car (passenger seat   s:? :? s:?  )

I will probably buy one kit from lampka if tte doesn't release one.


The setup looks very good and expensive, but don't forget that the prices they are giving is including install and tuning.

Yes , I saw your report on SC, and that prompted one of my replies on this thread.  Do you have any more information, like do Lampka look like a quality organisation?  And, can you remind us of the prices.

BTW, what's the latest on the Apexi turbo?  this all seems to have been updated: http://www.takakaira.co.jp/asp/template.asp?cat=2&id=877&prodID=FGgCdDd_a@b^eA`

Tem

#48
Quote from: "Jonny Turbo"Do you have any more information, like do Lampka look like a quality organisation?  And, can you remind us of the prices.

I wonder if you can call them a "quality organisation" when they clearly copy TRD  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  Their products might be good though.

The thread on SC had prices. $4000 without install and tune, about $6000 with them.


Quote from: "Jonny Turbo"BTW, what's the latest on the Apexi turbo?

The same as always. It's available from Japan, but probably won't ever be officially available in US/EU.
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

Anonymous

#49
Quote from: "Tem"I wonder if you can call them a "quality organisation" when they clearly copy TRD  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

I agree with you,  ..........and copies from Cusco too.

When the Turbo get the TÜV ( german Technics org.) the emission should pass the Euro 3 Norm, so therefore legal for mount.

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