charge cooler install

[kanujunkie]

that should give a better area to length coverage, only thing is the volume increase will create a bit more lag although that should be minimul especially with the system you have  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

[Anonymous]

Ta Stu - I was trying to remember if we decided 8 or 10" would fit in my upper boost pipe space.. I'll have to measure again  s:) s:)

I think I'll go for the 6" diameter - probably a 6x8.

I have some new 5" cores coming out next month. These fill the gap between the 4 and the 6, but don't have the over large 3" inlet and outlets that can cause installation issues sometimes.

Some more independant results. The first is from an Alpine GTA, rear engine turbo car which suffers more heat soak issues than you will occur.
He is running 1 bar of boost too, on a 50 Trim T3, so even the compressor is past efficiency too. This was tested on a 26 degree day last Summer.

 m http://www.renaultalpineownersclub.com/ ... rees#16677 m

This one is a Renault 5 GT turbo, running 1.5 bar on a T28 sized blower. Currently puts out just over 240bhp, and runs low 12 second quarter miles.

 m http://tinyurl.com/2g2p4z m

Cheers

David

[Tem]

I have some new 5" cores coming out next month. These fill the gap between the 4 and the 6, but don't have the over large 3" inlet and outlets that can cause installation issues sometimes.

Hi David,

do you have these 5" cores already? Do you have the measurements for these as your homepage only covers 4" and 6" models?

 m http://www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk/avtpwr.htm m

[Anonymous]

I have some new 5" cores coming out next month. These fill the gap between the 4 and the 6, but don't have the over large 3" inlet and outlets that can cause installation issues sometimes.

Hi David,

do you have these 5" cores already? Do you have the measurements for these as your homepage only covers 4" and 6" models?

 m http://www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk/avtpwr.htm m

Ah yes, I havent got round to adding them to the site yet, they were delayed quite a while. Give me a day and it will be all updated with prices and dimensions.

[aaronjb]

David, your store appears to be a little.. broken:

Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in C:Inetpubvhostsadvancedvehicletuning.co.ukhttpdocscatalogincludesfunctionsdatabase.php on line 44

And you should probably start cloaking your error pages, or it makes it really easy to start performing directory traversal attacks, amongst other things  s;) s;)

[custardavenger]

Hey Mark and Stu

Any chance you could post some details on how you had your CC pumps wired in and where to?

[markiii]

pumps was mounted toi teh undersideof the metal strut supportig teh front bin, then wired into the fusebox under teh nose

tap into the power busbar and mount a new relay

[custardavenger]

OK will have a look at that. Is it the 7.5A fuse you used for the Pump?

[markiii]

that I don;t know Simon and Rogers CC are wired up teh same way best bet get one of them to check

[custardavenger]

Cool I did have a search but couldn't find the power rating for the Bosch pump anywhere.

[Tem]

Cool I did have a search but couldn't find the power rating for the Bosch pump anywhere.

I'm not sure if this one is identical to the one they sell on their site, but says 1.3A:
 m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Charge-cooler-pum ... 1|240:1318 m

I'm sure 7.5A fuse is more than enough though.  s8) s8)


Ah, nevermind, they say max 5A on their site:
 m http://www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk/ ... ucts_id=28 m

[custardavenger]

Sweet. Didn't realise they sold them (couldn't afford them so didn't look).

I'm gonna start getting all the stuff at the front of the car installed then look into the tank and CC when back on the road. I guess its off to the pond center then. Haven't totally decided yet but may reduce down after the pump to 1/2" rather than 3/4", will be much easier for fittings at the other end.

[roger]

Will look this weekend Rob. That E-bay one is what I've got.

[Tem]

Yeah - Horsepowerinabox.com have good prices on the barrels.  They're in Australia, but I dealt with them when I got the turbos on the Nissan - helpful folks (at least they were then).

Thanks!

Three emails to chargecooler.co.uk without a reply. One email to horsepowerinabox.com and a reply within a day.  s:D s:D

[aaronjb]

Three emails to chargecooler.co.uk without a reply. One email to horsepowerinabox.com and a reply within a day.  s:D s:D

Good to see their customer service is still good  s:) s:)

Rob - I also have the eBay pump, and it's working fine for me. My rad is also 12mm, the rest of the system is 19mm.




[edit] Oops sorry, didn't mean to post the giant pics straight from the camera! [/edit]

[Star_69]

Do love the look of the set ups in this thread guys. Looks like the ultimate cooling solution reading around on other forums. Wish I had room   s:( s:(  

From horsepowerinabox.com total for the 4 x 6 kit with everything is 459.99 quid delivered. Probably about 528 after tax has been whacked on. Seems like a bargain!

As well as chucking out more power is the throttle response response from less lag compared to an intercooler noticeable?

Also they have 2.3" intake diameter. Would flanging down from 2.5 or 2.75 matter or is it immaterial?

[Tem]

Do you have a pic of that with the bumper on?  s8) s8)

[aaronjb]

I do, but the full-size UK plate I had on at the time covers pretty much everything:

[Tem]

That's good enough, thanks!  s:D s:D  


Browsing around eBay, I came up with radiators like this:
 m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-CITROEN-A ... dZViewItem m

Any thoughts about these for chargecooler coolant? I like how it has an integrated tank and pressure cap...and the price is pretty nice too. Radiator for 1.6l GTI/VTS cars should be more than enough for a chargecooler coolant, right?

No idea if that specific model fits us, but there are other similar models and there's quite a lot of room between our radiator and the bumper.

[aaronjb]

Capacity wise that would be fine, but room wise there's less room than you'd think, especially if the rad has outlets that face 'backward' toward the car - there's not enough room to get a 32mm bend (the usual ID of radiator hose, if memory serves) in there..

You really need a rad with two outlets at one end if you're using a car radiator - like the Rover Metro Turbo rad that Stu and Mark used (for the early model Metro only, late models from 84 onward used one rear facing outlet if memory serves).  Like this one.

[Tem]

Capacity wise that would be fine, but room wise there's less room than you'd think, especially if the rad has outlets that face 'backward' toward the car - there's not enough room to get a 32mm bend (the usual ID of radiator hose, if memory serves) in there..

I was thinking the other way around, facing the outlet forward and then using a 90degree silicone bend, which reduces it from 32mm to 25mm (happen to have a pair of those) and then using a metal garden hose connector, which happens to be 25mm on the other end and meant for 19mm hose.

I didn't really check the fitment though..  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

You really need a rad with two outlets at one end if you're using a car radiator - like the Rover Metro Turbo rad that Stu and Mark used (for the early model Metro only, late models from 84 onward used one rear facing outlet if memory serves).  Like this one.

That would be easier. I just searched eBay for "radiator" and browsed the first 30 pages of pics and didn't see any of these.  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

[custardavenger]

That's good enough, thanks!  s:D s:D  
Browsing around eBay, I came up with radiators like this:
 m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-CITROEN-A ... dZViewItem m

Any thoughts about these for chargecooler coolant? I like how it has an integrated tank and pressure cap...and the price is pretty nice too. Radiator for 1.6l GTI/VTS cars should be more than enough for a chargecooler coolant, right?

No idea if that specific model fits us, but there are other similar models and there's quite a lot of room between our radiator and the bumper.

I would say it might work it if you had the outlets facing forward but as Aaron says it could be very tight. The thing I would worry about is whether the top of the rad is higher than your charge cooler. Depending on your instalation than mught be difficult.

Rob - I also have the eBay pump, and it's working fine for me. My rad is also 12mm, the rest of the system is 19mm.

I've already got the pump and Metro rad. So rad to the header on your is 12mm and to the CC is 19mm? I'm looking at the other way round? Mighty funky hose you've used. Is that vacuum hose

I guess as there is a fair bit of interest I may try and do a drawing of the brackets needed to mount a metro rad for anyone else who wants to do it. Has anyone got pictures of theirs? I've had a look already but am not sure that my first idea will be strong enough as the rad whan full is gonna be pretty heavy and it's weight is only supported by the bottom brackets.

[Tem]

The thing I would worry about is whether the top of the rad is higher than your charge cooler. Depending on your instalation than mught be difficult.

The cooler will be quite low, barely above the rear subframe.

Btw, why's that? I've read it before, but didn't quite get it. Is it because air is supposed to end up to the highest point? Does it do that anyway on the '2, cause the rad and CC will be high points with the hoses going under the car?

[custardavenger]

The thing I would worry about is whether the top of the rad is higher than your charge cooler. Depending on your instalation than mught be difficult.

The cooler will be quite low, barely above the rear subframe.

Btw, why's that? I've read it before, but didn't quite get it. Is it because air is supposed to end up to the highest point? Does it do that anyway on the '2, cause the rad and CC will be high points with the hoses going under the car?

Its the air thing and also when you undo the cap the water above that level will flow out. If your below that then no problems.

[Tem]

also when you undo the cap the water above that level will flow out

Ah, of course.  s:oops: :oops: s:oops: