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Anonymous · July 9, 2007, 12:30

Hi, I shall be back on the road this week with half a new engine courtesy of MrT.

Problems In Brief: my precats failed, this was caused by excess oil burning, this was caused by oval pistons. Oil burning went up to 1.5L over 200miles.

my car is 2001, no mods (unless you include no pre-cats as a mod?), only 50% service history.

I just took it to Oakmere Toyota, Northwich. They did the compulsary oil burning test and then the service controller pulled out a document pertaining to extended warranty on the 1zz fe - I didn't get to read it but basically it covers OVAL PISTONS!!! and they are now replacing half my engine for nothing! - verrry good of them considering the age of my car and the very limited service history s:D

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So, anyone BURNING OIL - take it to MrT and mention that you know about the "recognised problems"... see where it gets you s:!: :!: s:!:

spit · July 9, 2007, 12:43

Result! Nice one Gav.

I think you're the second member to refer to this MrT briefing document now. I wonder if anyone knows a friendly MrT who'd care to share it with us?

... and will the MrT repair include a new Cat?

Chris_h · July 9, 2007, 12:59

Hi Gav,

Good news!

When you say 50%, do you mean they are replacing 50% of the block (i.e 50% of the engine - the dead bit) or they are contributing 50% of costs?

Either way, great news.

I am surprised they do it with incomplete SH as I imagined they would go on the 'unable to guarantee mileage' line - or maybe I am just hardended to the ways of VW and Audi and Toyota deserves more respect.
this is great news

uktotty · July 9, 2007, 13:42

Mine was replaced under the same scheme, they have replaced the "shirt block" on my 2000 model.
Not bad for £3000 worth of free stuff!

northernalex · July 9, 2007, 15:37

Quote from: "uktotty"Mine was replaced under the same scheme, they have replaced the "shirt block" on my 2000 model.
Not bad for £3000 worth of free stuff!

I think you mean the short block?

Alex

Anonymous · July 9, 2007, 16:12

short block replaced, would have cost me about £2225 otherwise - will see what I can get out of the garage when I pick the car up tomorrow - will certainly be listing as much detail on here as I can get out of them.

I'm so unbelievably happy right now!!! s:D

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Oh - and apparently the Japanese manufacturers are generally much more generous when it comes to ensuring customer satisfaction (and hence loyalty) than other certain German manufacturers mentioned... so it's well worth trying your luck with MrT s:!: :!: s:!:

spit · July 9, 2007, 20:11

Quote from: "spit"... and will the MrT repair include a new Cat?

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northernalex · July 9, 2007, 21:06

Quote from: "spit"
Quote from: "spit"... and will the MrT repair include a new Cat?

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Seconded!!

If you have a new short block and you still have the same cat then if its blocked up with oil and precats then the backpressure will kill your new engine!!!

MAKE SURE YOU ASK ABOUT THE CAT!!! ASK THEM TO TEST THAT ITS EITHER OK or put a new one on.

Anonymous · July 10, 2007, 05:58

Exhaust manifold and main cat need to be replaced at the same time as the short block or the problem repeats itself.

Also, the rear suspension alignment must be checked or you'll scrub off tires FAST.

kanujunkie · July 10, 2007, 08:09

i'm trying to arrange a meeting at the mo at Toyota GB HQ, i'll add this to the list of subjects, especially se if i can get a copy of that SB

Anonymous · July 10, 2007, 08:26

I replaced the Main Cat about 1500 miles ago - with a 19,000 mile one off a 2004 - when it got filled up with pre-cat - had remaining pre-cats gutted at same time.

Would you say that the excess oil burning is likely to have knackered my replacement Cat within 1500miles s:?: :?: s:?: s:?: :?: s:?: s:?: :?: s:?:

Hope not - I'll ask MrT though anyway seeing as they're in a generous mood at the moment!

northernalex · July 10, 2007, 11:05

Quote from: "Gav1980"I replaced the Main Cat about 1500 miles ago - with a 19,000 mile one off a 2004 - when it got filled up with pre-cat - had remaining pre-cats gutted at same time.

Would you say that the excess oil burning is likely to have knackered my replacement Cat within 1500miles s:?: :?: s:?: s:?: :?: s:?: s:?: :?: s:?:

Hope not - I'll ask MrT though anyway seeing as they're in a generous mood at the moment!

Its not imposible that its knackared the cat, I would ask them if there is a gas flow test they can do. Alternativley just buy a downpipe and enjoy the increased sound and peformance s:)

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northernalex · July 10, 2007, 11:05

Quote from: "kanujunkie"i'm trying to arrange a meeting at the mo at Toyota GB HQ, i'll add this to the list of subjects, especially se if i can get a copy of that SB

Good luck on this stu!

kanujunkie · July 10, 2007, 11:09

gotta live in hope s:roll: :roll: s:roll: , and its not the main reason i'm going

Anonymous · July 10, 2007, 12:01

just asked, they check downstream as routine part of the operation - mine's fine thankfully! He didn't mention the lack of pre-cats though s:!: :!: s:!: wonder if they've replaced them??? s:? :? s:?

northernalex · July 10, 2007, 12:28

Quote from: "kanujunkie"gotta live in hope s:roll: :roll: s:roll: , and its not the main reason i'm going

Its for a free toyota mug isnt it ? s:)

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Anonymous · July 12, 2007, 16:48

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s:D Hooray - just going to pick my car up now!

Apparently they have actually replaced the Cat aswell as it was just starting to shows signs of going. BONUS! shame I wasted £180 on that second hand one a few months ago but never mind, I have a shiny new one now!

Will report back on everything I can find out as soon as possible...

GAV

kanujunkie · July 12, 2007, 17:33

Quote from: "northernalex"
Quote from: "kanujunkie"gotta live in hope s:roll: :roll: s:roll: , and its not the main reason i'm going

Its for a free toyota mug isnt it ? s:) s:)

ok its for the free mug, ya got me s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Anonymous · August 15, 2007, 15:51

hi i have a 2002 mr2 and basically looks like new engine needed but does anyone know when excatly toyota made thier design changes in 2002 to retify the pre cats/ oil control rings problems?
am writing to toyota bout it and wanna have the facts. also who and where is mrt? seems he has helped others in this situation cheers

Anonymous · August 15, 2007, 15:53

Mr T = Toyota themselves (dealership usually, but can refer to Toyota GB). s;)

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markiii · August 15, 2007, 15:54

Mr T(oyota)

Anonymous · August 15, 2007, 16:52

ah right sorry new to all this!

so are you saying that you can take it there with this problem and they will ofter to fix it 4 cheaper if you buy extended warrenty or should you have bought warrety b4 problem shows?

markiii · August 15, 2007, 16:53

you;d have to have teh warranty in place at teh time of teh problem occuring

that said £6K is ridiculous

you could have a 2zz put in for that with cash to spare

Anonymous · August 15, 2007, 17:01

no not had quote on price to fix yet been told bout £2k am just considering contacting toyota on the matter?

roger · August 15, 2007, 17:16

Natz, read what Gav did i.e. Go to your local Toyota garage and refer to the known piston / bore problem which you understand means they will put in a new short block.

Only if that fails do you need to push it higher to Toyota themselves.