Aaron gets blown (or, the Top Secret Turbo Kit thread)

Started by aaronjb, September 21, 2007, 10:47

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Tem

#25
Quote from: "aaronjb"I did wonder if there'd be more lag from the plain bearing.

I'm sure there is a difference, there kinda has to be, but it's just fractions of seconds. Would be interesting to try a BB turbo to see if you could notice any difference.  s8) 8) s8)
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

aaronjb

#26
Quote from: "Tem"I'm sure there is a difference, there kinda has to be, but it's just fractions of seconds. Would be interesting to try a BB turbo to see if you could notice any difference.  s8) 8) s8)

I'll just pinch Mark's when he's not looking  s;) ;) s;)   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Although getting to some of the bolts with it all in the car will be a nightmare I feel - especially one of the dump-pipe bolts, as you can't get the nut on if you fully seat it against the turbo as it is - you have to put the dump pipe on just enough to get the nut on, and then seat it, or the nut just hits the pipework.  Masterstroke of design, that bit  s;) ;) s;)   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

Tem

#27
Quote from: "aaronjb"Although getting to some of the bolts with it all in the car will be a nightmare I feel - especially one of the dump-pipe bolts, as you can't get the nut on if you fully seat it against the turbo as it is - you have to put the dump pipe on just enough to get the nut on, and then seat it, or the nut just hits the pipework.  Masterstroke of design, that bit  s;) ;) s;)   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

It's actually quite easy to remove the whole thing, just undo the 5 manifold/head nuts and 3 downpipe/exhaust bolts...and of course the intake pipes and you can lift the whole package up.  s;) ;) s;)
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

aaronjb

#28
Actually fair point - it's quite self contained if you pull it all as a unit  s:) :) s:)

The turbo is a lot heavier than I remember turbos being mind.. either that or I'm getting weaker  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

loadswine

#29
Its cos the turbo housing is made from Kryptonite and its sapping your powers Aaron.  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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kanujunkie

#30
ok then Aaron, when are we getting together to fit it?  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

she looks a beaut though matey, the build quality looks second to none
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aaronjb

#31
Not for a little while yet I reckon - though you're welcome to come over for a look at it if you want  s;) ;) s;)

I still need to get the remaining bits yet - PWR barrel, injectors, wideband, datalogit (there's one on eBay - no sod better buy it!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  ) etc.. I mean - I could throw it on with no intercooling, stock injectors and the PFC if I had the wideband..
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tonigmr2

#32
Oooh that manifold is a work of art....!  What power does the kit claim?
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aaronjb

#33
It doesn't claim any, but should make good power..
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

Tem

#34
Dyno claims +250whp @ 10psi.  s8) 8) s8)
Sure you can live without 500hp, but it\'s languishing.

aaronjb

#35
Quote from: "Tem"Dyno claims +250whp @ 10psi.  s8) 8) s8)

I can live with that  s;) ;) s;)


For now..
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heathstimpson

#36
That does look like a quality bit of kit indeedy  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
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markiii

#37
reckon thats goin to be a £4.5K kit when finished though   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
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aaronjb

#38
Easily... I should add up what it's all cost me at some point, but I don't want to scare myself.

Incidentally - I'm now also the proud owner of a Datalogit to go with the PFC  s:) :) s:)
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

markiii

#39
and a moroso plan I beleve  :-) :-) :-)
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heathstimpson

#40
Quote from: "markiii"and a moroso plan I beleve  :-) :-) :-)
Looks like only the best will do for our Aaron  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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aaronjb

#41
Quote from: "heathstimpson"
Quote from: "markiii"and a moroso plan I beleve  :-) :-) :-)
Looks like only the best will do for our Aaron  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Well, in for a penny and all that  s;) ;) s;)  If I'm spending nearly £3k on the turbo and a few bits of pipe, I might as well blow some more on a few sheets of ally welded together  s;) ;) s;)
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

scottish_turbo

#42
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "heathstimpson"
Quote from: "markiii"and a moroso plan I beleve  :-) :-) :-)
Looks like only the best will do for our Aaron  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Well, in for a penny and all that  s;) ;) s;)  If I'm spending nearly £3k on the turbo and a few bits of pipe, I might as well blow some more on a few sheets of ally welded together  s;) ;) s;)

It looks so good though you have to have 1. It's just a shame you can't see it once it's on the car.

aaronjb

#43
Ooh an update.. not exactly 'turbo kit' related, but as the kit is pretty useless without some kind of engine management..

I invested in a secondhand 1ZZ PFC + commander from the US, which arrived a little while ago, then added to that a secondhand Datalogit box and a copy of Kevin Beanes Copilot software.

It's been sitting around for a little while now, so I thought I'd see if it actually worked this afternoon  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Good news is, it does! And, after fixing the injector sizes (it's clearly been on a turbo'd car, as the injector size correction was set to 48%) it even idled smooth as silk.  Datalogit, Copilot and FC-Edit all worked as expected, too:

Copilot being a dashboard - hmm.. Carputer?  s;) ;) s;)


PFC Commander showing realtime data in 8ch mode:


It even does realtime graphing - less useful right now, but perhaps useful if I get it to read a boost module:



I've removed it again for the time being - a) so I can get my immobiliser back, and b) I need to compare the maps in the PFC to a base 1ZZ map and get the maps back to a sane place for an NA car.. then I think I might as well sling the PFC in and run with it for a while  s;) ;) s;)  Get some road tuning done with Copilot and see just how much advance I can run..
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

philster_d

#44
Shame we never got time to show you the odbc bluetooth stuff, I may also end up with a semi carputer like setup displaying the extra ecu info (pocket pc based)

aaronjb

#45
So, I succumbed today:

3729 Heat Sink Bung Extender  £66.00
3736 Stainless Bung and Plug kit   £6.00
3781 XD-16 Standalone Gauge Kit (16 in 1) £239.00


Prices aren't too bad buying locally, so for once I'm not actually importing something from the US :icon_lol:

This will go in with the PFC once it arrives, and I'll work with it while NA for a while - I'll call it the LordTakuban method of going turbo  s;) ;) s;)

[edit] The LT bit made more sense on SpyderChat - LT did the W/B O2 + PFC while NA, before adding a PE turbo.. so I'm rather following in his footsteps  s:) :) s:)
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

aaronjb

#46
Damn that's service - ordered Sunday evening, arrived today!

The guage - very pretty, changeable faces (you can program it to read other things) and there's a silver bezel included too:


The sensor, controller, two O2 bungs (mostly for the stoppers!) and the O2 heat shield as the sensor is right next to the turbo outlet and it's only rated for <1300*F:
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spynish

#47
Hi Aaron,

Do you think that gauge will fit nicely in front of the rpm stock gauge or is too big?

aaronjb

#48
That's where Corky and.. someone else (I forget who) have theirs fitted - it obscures <500rpm, but nothing else..

Personally I don't like the 'guages stuck to my guages' look though, so I'm going to put it in a navpod for now (or a Greggs guage pod, when he releases the RHD one!) - may move it to the front of the glovebox however, as I might put a carpc screen in the navpod instead..
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ex-2002 MR2 TopSecret Turbo Roadster[/size]

Wabbitkilla

#49
Quote from: "spynish"Hi Aaron,

Do you think that gauge will fit nicely in front of the rpm stock gauge or is too big?

You mean like this


I like it, but not everyones' taste.
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