Would these be Legal?

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August 2, 2008, 10:02 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
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They look frikken awesome, but would they let out the light? Would reflectors work etc. Wouldn't fancy buying, or doing something similar then get pulled for it.

Phil
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August 2, 2008, 11:45 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Its a shame you are looking at them Phil, I saw them a few weeks ago for £12 !!
Not sure about the legality, the guy says they allow most of the light through but would question the reflector bit as you say.

evileye_wrx

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August 2, 2008, 13:02 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "uktotty"Its a shame you are looking at them Phil, I saw them a few weeks ago for £12 !!
Not sure about the legality, the guy says they allow most of the light through but would question the reflector bit as you say.

I was more thinking of doing something similar rather than buying at that price. I suppose I could pick up some cheap lights and see how it turns out

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August 2, 2008, 23:35 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I have seen similar on any number of chavvy fiestas, clios etc round here. They reduce the visibility of your brake and turn signals as well as your side lights and reflecctors, so really should be an off road only accessory IMO.

Chris
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August 3, 2008, 01:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Phil.. they look pants!.. complete pants... like the kinda pants that Russ would wear..
And you dont want you car looking like Russ's pants (or shirts) lol
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August 3, 2008, 02:52 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "evileye_xc"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220254803256&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

They look frikken awful...


Fixed.


They are utter crap. And they are also utterly illegal.

Sir, you do not drive a Corsa, so please, pretty please, pretty -pretty please, do not "modify" your car in the manner of a misguided Corsa owner... Honestly, blacked out lights are just never going to look like anything other than lights that have been painted...

Quote from: "GSB, to a Yaris owner several years ago, on another forum..."The sad fact is that any modification you do to your car has to be declared to your insurance company. How do you think they'll react when you say, "I've painted my rear lights black..."

The other issues here are pure physics and the legality of the blacked out lights...

The law states that your lights must be clean. Didnt know that did you? It doesn't say it in those words obviously, but it means that nothing must interfere or obstruct the lights so that other road users cant see them. If you have dirty lights the police can and will pull you, fine you, and endorse your license. By painting over them with any kind of tint, or paint, you are reducing the transmission of light from your taillamps, by making them as black as the ones in the photo they may as well be covered in mud. They certainly no longer comply with the standards set in law for taillights and thus the car no longer complys with the construction and use regs. That means your insurance is invalid.

Now another word of warning: a few years ago a man I know was involved in an accident beacuse the person behind him couldn't see his rear lights. He served time in prison for the offense...

And just one other thing reagrding the black paint on those lights... It looks crap too.
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August 3, 2008, 11:32 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "evileye_xc"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220254803256&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

They look frikken awesome, but would they let out the light? Would reflectors work etc. Wouldn't fancy buying, or doing something similar then get pulled for it.

Phil

I like the idea mate,  dunno whether I like the ones on ebay but I like the idea,
Think I'd like mine 'smoked' if that makes any sense
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August 3, 2008, 18:56 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "DannyN"
Quote from: "evileye_xc"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220254803256&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

They look frikken awesome, but would they let out the light? Would reflectors work etc. Wouldn't fancy buying, or doing something similar then get pulled for it.

Phil

I like the idea mate,  dunno whether I like the ones on ebay but I like the idea,
Think I'd like mine 'smoked' if that makes any sense

Yeah, thanks for the views people. I've been looking for some kind of cover for the rear lights ever since no one could decide on a design for Simon Tan to make. I would like something looking less big and red so a cover, darkening etc would do the trick. As per the title I did feel something along these lines might increase the chances of Police intervention so wasn't sure.  There is a guy up our way offering to make pieces in carbon fibre so perhaps I will have a word with him about what we can do. Perhaps some sort of cover which does not darken the lights/ refectors themselves but gives a new and unique look to the rear end of the car

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August 3, 2008, 19:29 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Hmmm, how about a nice carbon fibre lip spoiler covering the rear light sides and tops and running just above the rear bumper between the lights? Mind, any reduction in lift it may produce will translate to high speed understeer potentially.

My view, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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August 3, 2008, 19:33 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
There was a company that did these for the Cappuccino (my last car):



...compared to the standard ones...



It's a fibreglass shell that fits in the normal place (though you could use carbon fibre, obviously  s;) ;) s;) ) and has a couple of Hella light units in which you can buy from kit car part supplier, Demon Tweeks and various others.

evileye_wrx

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August 3, 2008, 19:35 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "ChrisGB"Hmmm, how about a nice carbon fibre lip spoiler covering the rear light sides and tops and running just above the rear bumper between the lights? Mind, any reduction in lift it may produce will translate to high speed understeer potentially.

My view, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Chris

You mean a bit like a Veilside (?) spoiler, or is it Damd? I forget. Definitely a possibility.

My view, if it looks like everyone elses, change it   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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August 3, 2008, 20:25 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Mmmm I wanted something like this...but no one makes em yet.  s:( :( s:(



Yes I know...terrible paintshop...but hopefully you get the idea

Sorry if this pic is someones car on here...I stole/borrowed etc the pic ages ago to give SimonTan the example on the thread relating to rear lights etc...it looked better in grey to show what I meant at the time
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August 3, 2008, 20:43 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Its mine,. i don't have a problem with it, but im a current member, not hard to find, would have been polite to ask.

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August 3, 2008, 20:49 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Can't see the point of doing that to your lights - looks hideous!
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August 3, 2008, 20:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Can't see the point of doing that to your lights - looks hideous!
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August 3, 2008, 20:55 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Rice, a milion paddy fields, do not do it.

Jaik

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August 3, 2008, 21:05 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I don't think it looks that bad, but it's definitely worse than stock  s:) :) s:)

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August 3, 2008, 21:24 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Ze Style Police say burn eeet!
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August 13, 2008, 07:59 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "nelix"Its mine,. i don't have a problem with it, but I'm a current member, not hard to find, would have been polite to ask.

Ahh sorry nelix...I had no intention of showing it on anywhere else than on this forum   s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:  

I was looking at something a bit more integrated for the back lights...rather than a big stuck on light cluster (I like the rear lights, was just mulling over having something a bit sexier) not to everyones taste admittedly....and my photoshop techniques ruined beutiful car pic...sorry again   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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August 13, 2008, 08:32 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I am sure that Simontan does a cover for the rear lights in a similar vein to the headlight eyebrows.
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August 13, 2008, 09:34 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
And if he doesnt then he will now  s:) :) s:)

DannyN

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August 13, 2008, 12:23 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
There was lots of discussion about a rear cover from Simon but novbody seemed to able to make up their mind what they wanted so I think the idea fell by the wayside
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