153.9bhp

Started by uktotty, June 7, 2009, 18:36

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loadswine

#25
June 7, 2009, 23:42 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Oh dear!
I've been looking at some of the results from the guys over on twoBrutal and those don't appear to be far off what you'd expect from their setups, maybe a few bhp optimistic, but not miles out from others I've seen.
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custardavenger

#26
June 7, 2009, 23:52 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Oh no they're not too bad other than they were giving crank figures rather than the actually measured wheel figures.
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aaronjb

#27
June 8, 2009, 00:13 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "custardavenger"I'm wondering if it was the skyline that was supposed to be turning up. Someone said it was the 4 wheel drive version but you could make it 2WD buy removing a fuse   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  . Maybe he totaled his diff?

Depends if it was an R32/33 (viscous center diff, IIRC) or R34 (electronic center diff) (there's a chance I have my years wrong and the 33 has the ATESSA-TS too).. oh, that's assuming it was a GTR, of course.

Mind, either way you'd be a bit nuts to put a 4wd car on a 2wd dyno if you were hoping for realistic figures..
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ChrisGB

#28
June 8, 2009, 01:45 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "custardavenger"I'm wondering if it was the skyline that was supposed to be turning up. Someone said it was the 4 wheel drive version but you could make it 2WD buy removing a fuse   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  . Maybe he totaled his diff?

Depends if it was an R32/33 (viscous center diff, IIRC) or R34 (electronic center diff) (there's a chance I have my years wrong and the 33 has the ATESSA-TS too).. oh, that's assuming it was a GTR, of course.

Mind, either way you'd be a bit nuts to put a 4wd car on a 2wd dyno if you were hoping for realistic figures..

I am getting old and senile I think, but didn't the R32 have an electrically operated clutch to hook the fronts up when the rears started to slip, or was that something else? 154 sounds a little high for decat / exhaust and AEM only. General consensus seems to be add 28 - 30bhp for flywheel figure with the MR2.

Chris
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uktotty

#29
June 8, 2009, 08:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Ilogik"
Quote from: "uktotty"Thats what I dyno'd today.
Quite pleased

sounds good which dyno? and how much torque?

Does this show the torque?

custardavenger

#30
June 8, 2009, 09:00 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Yeah peak torque about 140ftLb

Torque is the more horizontal of the two lines read on the scale on the right.
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aaronjb

#31
June 8, 2009, 09:43 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "ChrisGB"I am getting old and senile I think, but didn't the R32 have an electrically operated clutch to hook the fronts up when the rears started to slip, or was that something else?

I thought (could be wrong, it's been a while) that the 32 (and possibly the 33) had ATESSA (same as the Pulsar/GTIR) which is mechanical torque bias between front & rear, while the later models had ATESSA-TS - electronic torque bias front/rear.

Like I say, could be wrong - maybe they all had electronic center diffs.
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NickNJ

#32
June 8, 2009, 11:27 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "markiii"in whihc case the dyno is over reading

yep, most dyno's do overread, you get what you pay for with a dyno.

I got mine done cheaply as part of an owners club and it came out at 139bhp, the car is totally standard and was using oil, with lots of hot air inside the dyno building.
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onion86

#33
June 8, 2009, 12:11 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "NickNJ"I got mine done cheaply as part of an owners club and it came out at 139bhp, the car is totally standard and was using oil, with lots of hot air inside the dyno building.

Surely being +1bhp on what it's 'supposed to be' isn't too bad of a reading? Although I suppose being 8 years old in a hot building, your car possibly shouldn't be 139.
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ChrisGB

#34
June 8, 2009, 12:54 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "aaronjb"
Quote from: "ChrisGB"I am getting old and senile I think, but didn't the R32 have an electrically operated clutch to hook the fronts up when the rears started to slip, or was that something else?

I thought (could be wrong, it's been a while) that the 32 (and possibly the 33) had ATESSA (same as the Pulsar/GTIR) which is mechanical torque bias between front & rear, while the later models had ATESSA-TS - electronic torque bias front/rear.

Like I say, could be wrong - maybe they all had electronic center diffs.

Back in the day we had something apart and it had a chain driven clutch that engaged the front wheels when the rears started to slip. It was definitely Japanese and four wheel drive and as I have never seen a Pulsar stripped down, it was not one of those. Just had a feeling it was the R32 but could be wrong.

Chris
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NickNJ

#35
June 8, 2009, 13:46 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "onion86"
Quote from: "NickNJ"I got mine done cheaply as part of an owners club and it came out at 139bhp, the car is totally standard and was using oil, with lots of hot air inside the dyno building.

Surely being +1bhp on what it's 'supposed to be' isn't too bad of a reading? Although I suppose being 8 years old in a hot building, your car possibly shouldn't be 139.

Yeah in reality cars rarely make the figures quoted out of the factory, factor in loss of bhp over the years amongst other things and it shouldn't have been anywhere near 138. Most RR are just a guestimate so pretty pointless.
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aaronjb

#36
June 8, 2009, 17:09 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "ChrisGB"Back in the day we had something apart and it had a chain driven clutch that engaged the front wheels when the rears started to slip. It was definitely Japanese and four wheel drive and as I have never seen a Pulsar stripped down, it was not one of those. Just had a feeling it was the R32 but could be wrong.

You could be right - I know the center 'diff' is 'intelligent' on the 33 & 34, so I suppose it stands to reason  s:) :) s:)  - I always sort of ignored the R32, as I think it looked rather like a Mondeo  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  (always wanted an R34, though)
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northernalex

#37
June 11, 2009, 22:29 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "markiii"in whihc case the dyno is over reading


That was my thought too.. With TRD panel filter, downpipe, h+s exhaust and emanage I was on 145bhp.
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uktotty

#38
June 11, 2009, 22:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Then maybe you should do the mods I did, you can get 153.9 then!  s:) :) s:)

tom_deas

#39
June 24, 2009, 17:55 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "uktotty"Then maybe you should do the mods I did, you can get 153.9 then!  s:) :) s:)

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evileye_wrx

#40
June 24, 2009, 19:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
How about an ROC Dyno Day? We haven't had one of those in years.

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custardavenger

#41
June 24, 2009, 19:47 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "evileye_xc"How about an ROC Dyno Day? We haven't had one of those in years.

Phil

Why you feeling confident then Phill?
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DannyN

#42
June 24, 2009, 20:01 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "custardavenger"
Quote from: "evileye_xc"How about an ROC Dyno Day? We haven't had one of those in years.

Phil

Why you feeling confident then Phill?


I think power/money spent then Phil could be sitting quite pretty



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evileye_wrx

#43
June 26, 2009, 01:39 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Confident once the charge cooler and PFC are done.... and tuned   s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  

Tho now there are some big BIG boys out there who will easily make silly numbers once they are sorted

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loadswine

#44
June 26, 2009, 02:30 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Driveability is the key Phil, and that's what the PE delivers. On the twisties its just smiles all the way.
Guess we had better get your plumbing for that chargecooler sorted then.  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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