Yes again another oil question

[pauljb]

Hi Guys,

Sorry to bother, i know the ethos of the forum as i have posted a few times, however even after looking around first i still cant get a clear answer.

I need oil as the titles suggests, but i am unclear what to get. My car is a 2001 MR2 MK3, engine has only got 35000 (new one fitted by toyota) it is not driven hard and has not been modded.

So what do you suggest. 5w30 is recommeded by halfords and manual.

I was looking at either these two
 m http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... RRWidgetID m

or

 m http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165581 m

Know i know mobil was mentioned a few times but not sure if this mobil super 3000 is included as the good mobil oils.

Basically can you give me a oil i can go out and buy easily from the shop that will keep my car well protected?

Thanks
Paul

[Anonymous]

Speak to opie oils in the affiliates section, let them advise you.

[SimonC_Here]

there is a nice big thread on here about oils:

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Oilman thinks

5w-30 or 5w-40 synthetic would be my choice, from a reputable brand.

Cheers

Guy

[mrzwei]

I think 5W-30 is recommended because it covers the temperature range -29degrees C to 38 degrees C! Where do Toyota think we all live and work?   s:D s:D  I wish I was there in the summer.

[pauljb]

thanks i already read that thread, its what confused me.

so what brand should i go for and should i stick with fully or semi synthetic? what is the difference between 5w30 and 5w40? also is 10w too too thick?

thanks for the help

[sh4branze]

I use Lubro Molly 5w/40.I have noticed a distinct smoothness in my engine and a quieter valve train.

[ChrisGB]

thanks i already read that thread, its what confused me.

so what brand should i go for and should i stick with fully or semi synthetic? what is the difference between 5w30 and 5w40? also is 10w too too thick?

thanks for the help

Pretty much any 5w30 will be "OK". If you want better than Ok, you need a decent synthetic. Off the shelf, you will be looking at something like Castrol Edge (in Makro at £30 + VAT at the moment), or something from one of the reputable brands. You get what you pay for with oil. I don't know much about Halords own but have read less than good things about it by people who know. I would not put it in my engine.

As for grades, a 10w may be a bit slow to get round the engine in cold weather. If you are using the car in very hard conditions, like sustained high speed use on track or autobhan, a 5w40 is a good idea. Otherwise 5w30 will be fine.

It is not too critical what you put in unless you want to run hard or to high mileage. If you want optimum protection, shell out an extra £20 and get something exceptional like Motul 300V or silkolene Pro S or Pro R.

Chris

[markiii]

personally I found 5w way to thin, always ran better on 10w

[ChrisGB]

personally I found 5w way to thin, always ran better on 10w

It is only 5W when cold though and that is when you want it thin, W30 or W40 or whatever grade will be the same regardless of the lower number. Having said that, there is quite a big range of viscosities for each grade and some of the thinner W40s are maybe a little thinner than some of the thicker W30s at higher temperatures.

I never found the Motul 300V in 5W30 to be too thin on a N/A car.

Chris

[philster_d]

My new car is recomended for 10/30, seing as i have seen the oil gets hot does 10/40 make logical sense? as far as I know its not a high mileage engine. But I think the 2 turbos make a lot of the heat.


Phil

[pauljb]

so is this the mobil 3000 you are talking about

 m http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165581 m

That is quite i good price i think?

Think i should go for this one? am not driving the car, but would like to make the engine a bit smoother as it does sound a bit rough sometimes.

THanks
Paul

[pauljb]

Or how about these 5w40

 m http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165581 m

 m http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165581 m

I think i will go for one of these three with your advice.

Thanks

[pauljb]

Any one able to recommend any of these oils for my use? What ones would you buy?

[ChrisGB]

Any one able to recommend any of these oils for my use? What ones would you buy?

The only one I have used of those is the Castrol Edge 5W40 for turbo diesels. It was very good, keeping my significantly uprated PD130 engine running smooth and sweet. Although the Halfords blurb does not recommend it for petrol engines, Castrol do, so I would take that one.

EDIT: Remember to take Halfords up on the free 1L top up bottle when you buy it too  s:!: :!: s:!:  

Chris

[frogger]

I'll let others comment on the viscocity grade as I'm still experimenting myself! However don't go for the halfords own brand. Mobil or Castrol would be a worthwhile investment.

[pauljb]

Cheers chris,
unless anyone else can recommend the mobil over the castrol edge then I will prob go for that one.

Thanks for the help

[Anonymous]

Cheers chris,
unless anyone else can recommend the mobil over the castrol edge then I will probably go for that one.

Thanks for the help

And if someone then recommends the castrol edge over the mobil again? Oil has formed quicker from fossils than this decision has taken!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

[pauljb]

Is that a recommendation for castrol? If I get another nod for castol then it will be castrol. And since I haven't got a straight answer is the reason the post has went on for so long

[Anonymous]

Which is the reason i suggested, right at the start, that you spoke to opie oils.

[mrzwei]

Hi Guys,

Sorry to bother, i know the ethos of the forum as i have posted a few times, however even after looking around first i still cant get a clear answer.

As long as we answered your question, we aim to please and have a nice day, missing you already!   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

[markiii]

personally I found 5w way to thin, always ran better on 10w

It is only 5W when cold though and that is when you want it thin, W30 or W40 or whatever grade will be the same regardless of the lower number. Having said that, there is quite a big range of viscosities for each grade and some of the thinner W40s are maybe a little thinner than some of the thicker W30s at higher temperatures.

I never found the Motul 300V in 5W30 to be too thin on a N/A car.

Chris

whereas that same oil in mine sounded like a bag  of nails

weird

[Captain Vimes]

I've just put some of this in my M3. Should work well in the mr2 as well and at £25 for fully synthetic it seems a good deal.

 m http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-984-fuchs-t ... e-oil.aspx m

[ChrisGB]

personally I found 5w way to thin, always ran better on 10w

It is only 5W when cold though and that is when you want it thin, W30 or W40 or whatever grade will be the same regardless of the lower number. Having said that, there is quite a big range of viscosities for each grade and some of the thinner W40s are maybe a little thinner than some of the thicker W30s at higher temperatures.

I never found the Motul 300V in 5W30 to be too thin on a N/A car.

Chris

whereas that same oil in mine sounded like a bag  of nails

weird

Was yours boosted when you ran the 300V? Just wondering as bigger heat loads would push the W30 viscosity down at high temperature.

I've just put some of this in my M3. Should work well in the mr2 as well and at £25 for fully synthetic it seems a good deal.

 m http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-984-fuchs-t ... e-oil.aspx m

I was looking at that one too. I have run the Titan Supersyn a few times in other cars. It is not an ester based oil, but at that price, possibly a good alternative to Mobil 1.

Is that a recommendation for castrol? If I get another nod for castol then it will be castrol. And since I haven't got a straight answer is the reason the post has went on for so long

Straight answer: Saving money on oil is false economy. Spend less than the cost of one tank of fuel on Silkolene Pro S 5W40 from Opie oils (next day delivery and with membership and club membership discounts it is very reasonable). You then know you have one of a select group of the very the best possible oils in the sump and could not do significantly better. Castrol Edge, off the shelf as recommended, good stuff, generally rated well above average. Go for a £25 intermediate and save £15 (around 0.15p/mile), have some very average slop in the sump and get average protection.

Chris