Turbo kit options and considerations

ChrisGB · June 13, 2011, 18:05

First, apologies if my earlier post was seen as having a dig, honest, it was meant as a little light hearted ribbing. To the bent bits; the front suspension mount point (trailing arm mount) is tied to the body shell by a small brace at its lower end (it has the handbrake cable bolted on to it) and this should help it resist bending. Have a look and compare it to the other side to see if there are any signs of stretching or bending on mount or surrounding body shell. Hopefully it is OK and just the arms. The trailing arm, lower arm and track arm should all be straight with the U joints on the ends at 90 deg to the bars. Also check the strut leg and the rear hub for damage / cracking. Wheel bearing is going to have taken a hit, possibly drive shaft too, possibly the rose joint in the hub (lower arm joint) however, I have seen one of these on here bent worse than that repaired with just a toe arm.

You can also buy a set of after market adjustable control arms from Che (deluboz parts on Ebay).

Keeping my fingers crossed that it is fixable. Well worth keeping an eye on the for sale section here as cars come up for breaking sometimes. Try part finder on the internet too, you may be able to pick up a corner set relatively cheap.

Quote from: "muffdan"Just to play devil's advocate a little s:D s:D , Les's incident last week shows that this can happen with or without the correct tyre stagger to people very familiar or completely unfamiliar with the car. These cars are much less stable in the wet than others, for whatever reason. If the back end is going to lift in the wet, it's going to lift in the wet, regardless of what rubber is on the front. Les would have had his accident the way he had it even if he was running an extra 20mm on the front.

I did note Les had a mixed front / rear set of tyres, which may or may not have been a contributing factor. To be fair, any car can just step out of control unexpectedly, but a mid engined car is not going to have the dart like self stabilising properties of a front engined one. Even on a matched set in the right sizes it can happen (thinking of Stu in the MR2 and Mark in the VXR) both of those from unexpected standing water I believe. Geometry is a big factor in on limit grip too, going turbo (note the steer back to being on topic s:wink: :wink: s:wink: ) I had to put some rear toe in on the car to quell the rear end mid corner liveliness under power.

Hope it is sortable.

Chris

philster_d · June 29, 2011, 15:13

Dont beat yourself up too much, the wet can be deadly. Lots of people have had worrying moments even at stupidly low speeds, it happens.

Phil

stargazer30 · June 29, 2011, 18:14

Quote from: "philster_d"Dont beat yourself up too much, the wet can be deadly. Lots of people have had worrying moments even at stupidly low speeds, it happens.

Phil

+1. My first MR2 had same make and model tyres, good tread and recent alignment. But add idiot driver, turbo and rain and I still managed to fishtail mine, balls up the recovery then cross a bus lane, then a pedestrian path and end up sideways on a handy grass verge whilst magically missing everything including two trees and thankfully not damaging the car at all.

Ilogik · June 29, 2011, 19:07

Are the Sp wheels not just Team Dynamic wheels?

Anonymous · June 29, 2011, 19:14

yep team dynamic wheels.

Mike_V · June 29, 2011, 19:39

Well. Picked up my car from Matt on Friday but didn't get much opportunity to do much on the way home on the M6 as the traffic was so busy, then went to the N.E on Saturday in my other car as I had to take some things over with me. Arrived home today and took the "2" out to see what she was really like, I tried it on sections of "A" road and dual carriageway on half boost and I must say it's very, very quick and had to ease off at 4000 revs in 3rd gear s:scared: :scared: s:scared: . I can only describe the transformation as awesome with a wonderful cacophany of noises behind you and I will build things up to full boost gradually as I get to know the car, which isn't the same one that I took down to Matt's. The workmanship is superb s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: and I look forward to searching the cars capabilities, Matt said "you will love it" and I do.

PaullyP2010 · June 29, 2011, 20:29

Quote from: "Mike_V"Well. Picked up my car from Matt on Friday but didn't get much opportunity to do much on the way home on the M6 as the traffic was so busy, then went to the N.E on Saturday in my other car as I had to take some things over with me. Arrived home today and took the "2" out to see what she was really like, I tried it on sections of "A" road and dual carriageway on half boost and I must say it's very, very quick and had to ease off at 4000 revs in 3rd gear s:scared: :scared: s:scared: . I can only describe the transformation as awesome with a wonderful cacophany of noises behind you and I will build things up to full boost gradually as I get to know the car, which isn't the same one that I took down to Matt's. The workmanship is superb s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: and I look forward to searching the cars capabilities, Matt said "you will love it" and I do.

Nice one Mike s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:

Top news, I'm sure you will have lots, and lots, more fun!
Best you update your signature now s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Paul

AmeR · June 29, 2011, 20:32

Quote from: "Mike_V"Well. Picked up my car from Matt on Friday but didn't get much opportunity to do much on the way home on the M6 as the traffic was so busy, then went to the N.E on Saturday in my other car as I had to take some things over with me. Arrived home today and took the "2" out to see what she was really like, I tried it on sections of "A" road and dual carriageway on half boost and I must say it's very, very quick and had to ease off at 4000 revs in 3rd gear s:scared: :scared: s:scared: . I can only describe the transformation as awesome with a wonderful cacophany of noises behind you and I will build things up to full boost gradually as I get to know the car, which isn't the same one that I took down to Matt's. The workmanship is superb s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: and I look forward to searching the cars capabilities, Matt said "you will love it" and I do.

Dibs on first test drive when you finally let go of the keys!! s:D

s:D

Mike_V · June 29, 2011, 20:55

Hi Paul. The Dibs yours and I'll pop down to Blackpool soon. :-) :-) :-)

AmeR · June 29, 2011, 21:57

Quote from: "Mike_V"Hi Paul. The Dibs yours and I'll pop down to Blackpool soon. :-) :-) :-)

Aww get in!! But shhh, nobody tell the Mrs...

philster_d · June 29, 2011, 23:01

hahaha

andywood · June 30, 2011, 22:47

NIce one, is a great kit. What was it mapped at in terms of power/torque? Intrigued to know what you get with the bigger turbo and chargecooler etc....

Above all else, respect it and enjoy it.

Andy.

calaerial · July 1, 2011, 12:40

So all in all, how much has it cost if you dont mind me asking?

Mike_V · July 2, 2011, 22:23

Hi. For the kit that I have you won't get much change out of 6 grand, I know that I could have bought another car for this but it's something that i've always wanted to do, I'm happy have no regrets.

andywood · July 3, 2011, 15:56

Quote from: "andywood"What was it mapped at in terms of power/torque? Intrigued to know what you get with the bigger turbo and chargecooler etc....

? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Andy

muffdan · July 3, 2011, 17:53

Over 270bhp when it was fitted to Matt's car I believe.

philster_d · July 3, 2011, 18:59

I wonder what Gaspar is up to these days.

Phil

Mike_V · July 3, 2011, 19:39

Quoteandywood wrote:What was it mapped at in terms of power/torque? Intrigued to know what you get with the bigger turbo and chargecooler etc....

Hi Andy. It was remapped at Redine but Matt forgot the dynograph so I don't know the full story, I've asked him to get it for me but still waiting.

Cheers.

Mike

AmeR · July 3, 2011, 19:51

What a car that is!!

Mike you are one lucky guy!!!!

Mike_V · July 3, 2011, 19:53

Thanks Paul!! I hope you enjoyed your drive in it, it was great to meet you and many thanks for the much needed brew... :-) :-) :-)

andywood · July 3, 2011, 21:54

Will look forward to hearing what it is kicking out, just can't imagine having a stack load more power/torque than what is in mine, must be mental!! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Are the engine internals and gearbox still stock?

Will be worth every penny that you spent on it, the smile is always there everytime i drive mine.

Andy.

MattPerformance · July 3, 2011, 22:00

260bhp/ 240ftlb more or less. Just need to get hold of the dyno sheet to confirm exact figures. Stock engine and gearbox are good for 240ftlb although I'd be kidding myself (and Mike) if I said that the life of both is not likely to be shortened by running at these kind of outputs, especially if used on track.

markiii · July 3, 2011, 22:07

Same as my hass dynoed

Very entertaining

Mike_V · July 3, 2011, 22:29

Cheers Matt. I really must compliment you on your workmanship, in my book you are the only option for turbo fitting and tuning.

Mike :-) :-) :-)

silversprint · July 12, 2011, 06:39

MWR 2zz base turbokit. 700CC deutchwerk injector, PFC, J$S safeguard, Methanol/water injection.

310whp@10psi s:D

s:D on a stock 2zz engine, 295whp@9psi, 280whp@8psi.

Plan in to install Mahle pistons and run 17psi in 2012.