Engine Rebuild Failure.

ginger1 · June 13, 2012, 13:53

Hoover still sat in box at front door!
They didn't turn up Monday, so I thought they'd come Tuesday...
Not I had to ring, so should be picked up today.
I will let you know as soon as it's picked up.

Not worth replacing it as it will cost a grand to do the swap,
Plus I'd have to keep for 6months to make sure it didn't fail again!

Thy only offered for half the rebuild cost no labour costs.
So basically £400 off... Rubbish.

They said after they saw the paperwork, so I'm guessing they didn't like my service receipts?
As it just says 500 mile free service tick and 3500 free service tick plus a stamp in my service history book.

Still waiting on reply from Toyota as I'm hoping that it's slightly wrong

ginger1 · June 13, 2012, 15:56

After speaking to Toyota Specialist Helpline at £1.50 a minute...

I have found a few things out.

The MR2 has a 1ZZ-FE engine not 1ZZ-FED, the MR-S has 1ZZ-FED.

Also the cyclinders bores have a glazing on them, and if during a rebuild they try and polish the cyclinder it instantly becomes scrap metal.
You will have oil loss and the oil will be thinned out by petrol... also there will be scoring on the cylinder bores.

Neither of which help me s:-( :-( s:-(
But ends the 1ZZ-FE(D) debate.

mrzwei · June 13, 2012, 16:18

The offer made is unreasonable because it requires you to undertake things which need expert knowledge (ie remove the engine).

You could acknowledge but reject the offer and tell them you will get an expert written third party opinion on the state of the engine from say the AA or RAC.

This will of course cost and it's easy to sit here and spend other peoples money!

You also will have a pm.

Anonymous · June 13, 2012, 16:40

if all goes wrong and you get nowhere with a claim against them. if you bring it to me i will take out the engine and strip it down for you. its the only way to find out if it the wrong engine, by measuring the valves. however i did look into it a bit and as long as it did not come from an avensis the engine would be the correct type.

markiii · June 13, 2012, 17:05

Quote from: "ginger1"After speaking to Toyota Specialist Helpline at £1.50 a minute...

I have found a few things out.

The MR2 has a 1ZZ-FE engine not 1ZZ-FED, the MR-S has 1ZZ-FED.

Also the cyclinders bores have a glazing on them, and if during a rebuild they try and polish the cyclinder it instantly becomes scrap metal.
You will have oil loss and the oil will be thinned out by petrol... also there will be scoring on the cylinder bores.

Neither of which help me s:-( :-( s:-(
But ends the 1ZZ-FE(D) debate.

not fully convinced, toyota themselves make oversize pistons for rebuild. Any overbore to allow there use will also remove that coating

Wabbitkilla · June 13, 2012, 17:08

Quote from: "markiii"
Quote from: "ginger1"After speaking to Toyota Specialist Helpline at £1.50 a minute...

I have found a few things out.

The MR2 has a 1ZZ-FE engine not 1ZZ-FED, the MR-S has 1ZZ-FED.

Also the cyclinders bores have a glazing on them, and if during a rebuild they try and polish the cyclinder it instantly becomes scrap metal.
You will have oil loss and the oil will be thinned out by petrol... also there will be scoring on the cylinder bores.

Neither of which help me s:-( :-( s:-(
But ends the 1ZZ-FE(D) debate.

not fully convinced, toyota themselves make oversize pistons for rebuild. Any overbore to allow there use will also remove that coating

Agreed, considering people on this forum has rebored, overbored, and honed bores the Toyota words do not stack up.
The fact that Toyota themselves supply pistons in sizes to deal with rebores just rubishes that "Technical" explanation you've been given.

ginger1 · June 13, 2012, 17:10

I just thought I'd meantion what they advised :-) :-) :-)
I thought they overbored and supplied correct (undersized) pistons?

I'm still thinking my car will end up being sold as parts...
I keep thinking about doing it myself but I think I'd rather just have less money and hassle so I can by a car sooner.
Not used to this walking lark!

Anonymous · June 13, 2012, 18:03

Breaking is an option, as you probably know, Ive broken a few. The older cars are worth more in bits than together, even with a kn*ckered engine. Its around 100 hours to strip right down. If you have time and basic tools, plus storage space/ understanding neighbours, its a win-win as you learn loads about the car, and can keep the best bits for your next 2. s:)

s:)

Alternatively you could just list it on fleabay with a 99p start and let it go. They are making good money with duff engines. I cant buy one to save my life at the mo.

ginger1 · June 13, 2012, 18:55

Thanks mate,
I keep looking at it but I don't know enough, and space is limited.
Your offer was a little on the low side s:-( :-( s:-(
If I can get some money back off the company then I can let it go for cheaper.
or I could strip some easy bits off?
Will have to chat to you about it anyway.
Just need to wait for a reply, roll on 7 days

Anonymous · June 13, 2012, 19:13

Im not allowed to deal on here. I understand the mods are looking at it though. Your car should make £800 plus on ebay, but dont forget the 10% plus possible 2.5% plus entry fees.

ginger1 · June 13, 2012, 19:17

I know mate, shame though have only ever had good dealings with you in the past.
I'll get in touch not on here after I've found out the resolution with this company.

I still can't believe eBay charge 10% on the sale of a car, crazy.
People need to discover pistonheads, shame that's not free anymore

Anonymous · June 13, 2012, 21:02

Actually, now I think, it might be a sliding scale for the more expensive stuff, stepped down as price gets higher.

paulio · June 14, 2012, 14:52

If it helps, I have just sold a car on e-bay for £3200 and been charged a listing fee of about £18 and £31.87(

) which is about 1%, based on final sale price.

ginger1 · June 14, 2012, 15:35

That's not bad at all considering the volume of people that use it.
I wouldn't be so lucky though I'd make £80 and they'd take £100 with the way my luck is going!