2zz at Santa Pod

Started by doodlepugg, May 3, 2015, 19:14

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doodlepugg

#25
After a quick play around with the wallace racing drag calculators, 13.9 quarter requires a 1.93 60ft and 94mph terminal speed. I got a 93 mph terminal, so yup... I'm still standing by everything I've said.

doodlepugg

#26
Worth noting their calculators also say 165bhp (probably whp knowing american drag tuners) is what is needed at our weight (driver included - I weigh 62kg cus I'm a scrawny little  sshit shit sshit ) to achieve 13.9.

Convinced yet? Or you need more?

Lee H

#27
Yes I've been to pod several times. Quite a few of my friends run high powered fwd cars, however they struggle for grip even at pod although I appreciate a RWD car is totally different.

I agree pod is the best place for quick times although from people who have raced both York isn't too far behind (I managed a 2.1 60ft there in a 2.0 Nova on road tyres on a decent summer day which wasn't too shabby).

The only way you will convince me is with fact (ie a timing slip), all the slips I've seen show late 14's,early 15's. Also remember I've owned a 2ZZ Roadster and it struggled to keep up with my girlfriends standard EP3.
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Anonymous

#28
I think my fastest (I don't know 60ft time sorry) was a 13.6 in a seat Ibiza Cupra - FWD running standard road tyres and engine mods, rolling roaded a few times between 270-290bhp

1979scotte

#29
This is only going to be resolved with a pod meet isnt it.
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Anonymous

#30
Quote from: "1979scotte"This is only going to be resolved with a pod meet isnt it.

Famous quote here "I live life a quarter mile at a time"   s:flame: :flame: s:flame:  

So hows the weather down there?  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

vinp182

#31
I'm up for a pod meet.... There were a few guys on mr2oc on about it a few weeks ago too
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2000 MR-S...... Between engines
1993 Rev4 Turbo mk2 300whp
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Anonymous

#32
Quote from: "vinp182"I'm up for a pod meet.... There were a few guys on mr2oc on about it a few weeks ago too

Let us know if anything goes ahead vinny

doodlepugg

#33
Quote from: "Lee H"Yes I've been to pod several times. Quite a few of my friends run high powered fwd cars, however they struggle for grip even at pod although I appreciate a RWD car is totally different.

I agree pod is the best place for quick times although from people who have raced both York isn't too far behind (I managed a 2.1 60ft there in a 2.0 Nova on road tyres on a decent summer day which wasn't too shabby).

The only way you will convince me is with fact (ie a timing slip), all the slips I've seen show late 14's,early 15's. Also remember I've owned a 2ZZ Roadster and it struggled to keep up with my girlfriends standard EP3.

Fair enough. There were a good 5-6 10 second FWD cars the weekend. Most notably a naturally aspirated EG running a 10 flat. It was ballistic. It was a dedicated drag car though, and shat its gearbox out halfway up the strip later in the day  s:D :D s:D  
My first run was against an EP3, but it had stupid scene rims and I left it behind. Second run was against a v10 m5 which decimated me, then my final run against the DC5 you know about.

In fairness a meet won't prove owt, unless someone in a 2zz wants to launch their car  s:D :D s:D

4dvti

#34
According to consensus some years ago, by those who raced regularly or competed in the FWD shootout and Honda Drag Series, Shakespeare County Raceway was held to have the best drag-strip surface in the country. But that is, at least, according to those of us (mainly fwd owners) who have either raced or competed at both Shakey and Pod. Therefore, I'd like to recommend Shakespeare County Raceway for a meet or day of racing. The staff are friendly there and the entry/race fees are much more affordable than pod. They also allow for unlimited runs and it isn't usually overly crowded.

Here are a few of my slips from a few weeks ago:











As you can see, my 60ft and overall times were very consistent. The car was driven hard but the launch could have been better; riding the clutch worked better than launch control on the day. The car was also on 225/60/15 semi slicks back then but the new ***/50/15 tyres give quicker gearing and so I think the car will break into the 12s or run closer to a 13 flat on its next visit.


190whp/143wtq & 12.7s 1/4 mile- naturally aspirated on r888s.

Anonymous

#35
Shakespeare raceway is fine with me, I know the area so can get there easier

Anonymous

#36
Nice times by the way!

doodlepugg

#37
Nice work! I think it depends on what's on at the strips when you run. At pod they were heating the track in the morning and putting that syrup stuff down every run. Only downsides are crosswinds/headwinds and running uphill. A fella I spoke to mentioned another strip that ran downhill with high crops either side which for the bike lads proved the fastest strip.

It was the all4honda crew that dominated the FWD 'street legal' class last weekend. Changed my opinions on FWD cars completely, absolutely amazing.

vinp182

#38
I've only heard great things about shakespear so I'd be up for going there too
2001 Nissan Silvia S15 SpecR
2000 MR-S...... Between engines
1993 Rev4 Turbo mk2 300whp
1994 Rev3 Turbo mk2
2004 Renaultsport Clio182

1979scotte

#39
I'm interested could be a laugh.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
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4dvti

#40
Quote from: "Meeerrrk"Nice times by the way!

Thank you. It even took me by surprise  s:) :) s:)
190whp/143wtq & 12.7s 1/4 mile- naturally aspirated on r888s.

4dvti

#41
Tracks usually prepare the surface to a high level on event days only. They have found that too many people break things on their road cars with a sticky surface, so they don't bother too much for you regular RWYB public track days.
190whp/143wtq & 12.7s 1/4 mile- naturally aspirated on r888s.

Leethesparky

#42
Sounds interesting, but a long way to walk home!
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4dvti

#43
Quote from: "doodlepugg"Nice work! I think it depends on what's on at the strips when you run. At pod they were heating the track in the morning and putting that syrup stuff down every run. Only downsides are crosswinds/headwinds and running uphill. A fella I spoke to mentioned another strip that ran downhill with high crops either side which for the bike lads proved the fastest strip.

It was the all4honda crew that dominated the FWD 'street legal' class last weekend. Changed my opinions on FWD cars completely, absolutely amazing.


That sounds like Shakespeare, it is popular with the bikers. The next track day there is in two weeks time I think. After that I am likely to SORN the car for a while. It needs some improvements and I fancy cycling again when the weather improves!


EDIT: here's this year's race calendar.


 m http://www.shakespearecountyraceway.com ... ?event=103 m
190whp/143wtq & 12.7s 1/4 mile- naturally aspirated on r888s.

stupink

#44
Hahah.. i'd be keen... quickest at pod so far was my big fat calibra with a 12.8, i'd like to think my 2 could get a high 12/low 13. But my clutch can't launch  s:( :( s:(  so may be difficult to grab more than a 2.2s 60ft. my calibra also could not launch due to weak clutch.. seems to be a running theme for me!! I should probably spend some money on clutches for my cars! best clutch ever so far that held up to anything I made myself from two standard clutches.. worked so well but kept breaking clutch cables and was a little "heavy" lol..
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vinp182

#45
Be interesting to see mk3 v mk2 (n/a, turbo, v6) results
2001 Nissan Silvia S15 SpecR
2000 MR-S...... Between engines
1993 Rev4 Turbo mk2 300whp
1994 Rev3 Turbo mk2
2004 Renaultsport Clio182

Anonymous

#46
And a 1zz vs 2zz mk3

1979scotte

#47
Quote from: "Leethesparky"Sounds interesting, but a long way to walk home!

Your going to kill your gearbox off anyway may as well have a laugh when you do.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦

4dvti

#48
Nice time in the Calibra!

I am planning to go Shakespeare Raceway on the public track weekend, which will commence on 23/05/15.

Will anyone be interested to come along? Met some nice people on the last visit there, but sadly no roadster owners although a few guys did ask to look at the motor and mentioned that a friend of theirs was considering a 2zzge swap in a mk3.
190whp/143wtq & 12.7s 1/4 mile- naturally aspirated on r888s.

doodlepugg

#49
I'd come along to show the difference between 1zz & 2zz, though don't expect big launches. Shakespeare is about an hour closer to me than pod, so that suits me. Though the weekend at pod was RWYB it was still the National street legal classes that were running for points aswell, so in the morning they were heating and coating the whole strip, then coating the launch area every single run.
I need to sort out all my mounts, as there seems to be a fair bit of slack in the drivetrain on my car. My list of to-do's is getting ever larger, as always.

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