Red Exhaust Plume

[Leethesparky]

Good price for the turbo, mine was about £300 plus the returnable 100 for the Saab last year, came with all new gaskets and bolts.

Are you fitting it?, don't forget to prime it with oil, I killed the first replacement turbo forgetting to do that. Gets expensive buying a second.

[1979scotte]

Turbo came today.
Same as yours Lee 300 or 250 plus Vat.
Just need help fitting it and the Rad.

[Leethesparky]

Happy to help at the weekend,  and I've got a big workshop!

Assuming
 it's drivable

[s12vea]

How long did your broken one live for Scotte?

No idea mate it was third hand. Steve had it before me and someone else previous to that.
I've put maybe 7k miles on it.

If you have done 7k the kit has only done about 15k

[Leethesparky]

How long did your broken one live for Scotte?

No idea mate it was third hand. Steve had it before me and someone else previous to that.
I've put maybe 7k miles on it.

If you have done 7k the kit has only done about 15k

If it's only done 15k a good look around is needed,

It may be worth getting some gauges eventually Scott. So you can keep an eye on things, oil pressure, boost etc.
I find mine so useful,  oil pressure to see when it's warm enough to give it some and oil temp to tell me when I've given it too much.

[MattPerformance]

It's a very odd symptom. I've never come across this.
The turbo is off a Saab 9000 so it might be worth a search on that car too for this symptom?

[tomaky]

Gauges are very very helpful, im going to have the laptop in the car also for the Link.

[1979scotte]

Nigel is going to give me a guiding hand on Sunday to sort this out.
Hopefully I have all the bits required.

Still no idea what caused it will check all the hoses throughly on Sunday.

Gauges will be on the agenda but money is tight currently.

[Anonymous]

Good luck mate hope you don't hit any issues

[wotugonado]

Shafts not only wear on the journals causing play, the blades sometimes catch the housings causing damage or even start to melt due to incorrect setup of engine

taken from a turbo rebuild website^^^^

Blockage in oil pipe was also mentioned, not sure if its relevant but may be worth checking while you have it apart

[1979scotte]

Oil can cause problems that's for sure.
And is something to keep an eye on.
My oil is changed very regularly.

[carolineasb]

Exactly what I said................................

[1979scotte]

Exactly what I said................................

I know you did Caroline.
Sorry if you felt overlooked.
Hopefully when we fully remove it Sunday we will find out for sure.

[Joesson]

While pondering your problem I thought of the damage the pre cats can do when breaking up.
I wondered if this could be applied to a main cat with the increased pressures from a turbo.
I Googled and found a site that discusses ways to kill a new turbo.
This describes how oil can bypass the turbo and start to block the catalizer.
The back pressure generated can then push the turbine in to the housing!
I can' tdo links on my tablet but Google :
How to kill anew turbo quick part 2. Catalytic converter

[Anonymous]

But if there was movement I would expect the damage to be uniform on the turbo. One blade looks fine on the edge but bent in the middle.

[1979scotte]

I will try to explore all avenues I'm no expert but I still think something somewhere has come loose and hit the blades.

[Lee H]

To me it's certain something has gone through the blades rather than a bearing issue to cause damage like that. Bearing failure will have caused more damage to the parts of the blades you won't be able to see until the compressor housing is removed. Is your air flow meter all intact as that's the only thing I can think of in the inlet tract?

[tomaky]

Say something went into it would it remain in there or would it be fired through further? If further where would you expect it to ause damage next?  (still gaining and exploring turbo workings myself)

[1979scotte]

My MAF is fine we cleaned it at ding day plus the car runs well all things considered.

[tomaky]

It does indeed still run really well, be interesting to see if you notice the difference once its done.

[Leethesparky]

My MAF is fine we cleaned it at ding day plus the car runs well all things considered.

Wasn't it ding day when you had the problem? , taking the maf out leaves a big entrance to your turbo... maybe a small squirrel crawled in there. Would explain the red smoke.
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[tomaky]

haha unfortunatly the red plume was before all the maf was cleaned. Noticed it when we met up at chester zoo then travelled down to wrexham.

[1979scotte]

My MAF is fine we cleaned it at ding day plus the car runs well all things considered.

Wasn't it ding day when you had the problem? , taking the maf out leaves a big entrance to your turbo... maybe a small squirrel crawled in there. Would explain the red smoke.
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There is always the posibility that something found it's way in whilst cleaning the MAF.
How unlucky would that be. Trying to diagnose one fault lead to causing another.
I think it happened 3 months ago tbh. There was an incident on a slip road. Blinding flash and temporary loss of power.
If I hadn't had an a rad leak I would still be driving it. Pulls like a train.

[s12vea]

Don't worry it will be fixed soon enough mate. If you still think it's quick I would imagine it will be noticeably faster once turbo replaced. Be Interesting to find out what caused it.

[1979scotte]

Have done some reading and they reckon even a bit of rag can cause damage!!!!
I suppose they do spin a 100k rpm.