Red Exhaust Plume

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StuC

#50
June 14, 2015, 21:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Oooooo nasty.
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Leethesparky

#51
June 14, 2015, 21:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Oh!!!.. just found this thread.

Sh!t news mate, I did my turbo on my saab last year, the blades were wrecked. Bought a shiney new turbo for 600 quid and it lasted 2 weeks..  forgot to prime it before running it... ouch, bought a recon turbo and touch wood it's been ok since.
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#52
June 14, 2015, 21:11 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Nasty,what would cause that?

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#53
June 14, 2015, 21:21 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Something went into the blades is the only way it happen. No play on the shaft at either end but the balance will be off.

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#54
June 14, 2015, 21:22 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
What would the cause of the red smoke be?

Red arrows formation flying?

1979scotte

#55
June 14, 2015, 21:35 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Fuel additives. Rust in the exhaust. Not 100% but we found no evidence of coolant in the turbo.
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1979scotte

#56
June 14, 2015, 21:40 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Leethesparky"Oh!!!.. just found this thread.

Sh!t news mate, I did my turbo on my saab last year, the blades were wrecked. Bought a shiney new turbo for 600 quid and it lasted 2 weeks..  forgot to prime it before running it... ouch, bought a recon turbo and touch wood it's been ok since.

Any ideas what caused your problems in the first place? We found nothing to blame the damage on.
Tbh my car seems to be running fine although i am trying to stay under 3k rpm.
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carolineasb

#57
June 14, 2015, 22:09 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Showed my hubby pic of bent blades and said nothing else about the post and he immediately said "Bearing in a turbo has collapsed"  s:( :( s:( .  He says there must have been a blockage in the oil feed or a leak in the oil feed  s:( :( s:(
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Mikeymead

#58
June 14, 2015, 22:25 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
You say that you found the water issue, what was it?  Is there end float on the compressor shaft?
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1979scotte

#59
June 14, 2015, 22:38 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I'm no expert Caroline but there is 0 play in the turbo.
Surely if the bearing is shot it would wobble all over the shop.
Doesn't matter really it's scrap either way.
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Anonymous

#60
June 14, 2015, 22:43 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Nope no float at all, to shaft was spot on with no play. Water was going as the rad is poorly. The orange I can only really think is down to fuel additives as it not doing it today, but you could see places that showed it had.

1979scotte

#61
June 14, 2015, 22:48 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "Mikeymead"You say that you found the water issue, what was it?  Is there end float on the compressor shaft?

The radiator leaks mike. We pressurised the coolant to over 15 psi and the only place we found any coming out of was the rad.

End float mate? Best explain that to me.
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mrzwei

#62
June 14, 2015, 23:21 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
[quote="1979scotte"

End float mate? Best explain that to me.[/quote]

Basically you have shafts rotating within bearings. You shouldn't be able to rock the shaft backwards and forwards, if you can then there may be an issue.
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#63
June 15, 2015, 08:30 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Good to know that the water leak is only the radiator, that's a cheap fix, shame about the turbo but at least the engine seems ok.

I was just thinking that if the turbo spindle was moving longitudinally in it's casing the compressor fins could be fouling on the case. Either way as you say it's toast. Not an expense you need at the moment.
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#64
June 15, 2015, 10:49 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
It's so strange mike.
Something has obviously hit the blades but there where no bits of debris anywhere.
It has no play and spins freely.
Driving it you wouldn't know anything was wrong.
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Before i replace it everything will need to be checked.
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Leethesparky

#65
June 15, 2015, 12:40 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "1979scotte"
Quote from: "Leethesparky"Oh!!!.. just found this thread.

Sh!t news mate, I did my turbo on my saab last year, the blades were wrecked. Bought a shiney new turbo for 600 quid and it lasted 2 weeks..  forgot to prime it before running it... ouch, bought a recon turbo and touch wood it's been ok since.

Any ideas what caused your problems in the first place? We found nothing to blame the damage on.
Tbh my car seems to be running fine although i am trying to stay under 3k rpm.


No mate, one min was ok, next min made horrible wining noise. Tracked it down to the turbo, took off the inlet pipe and it was completely knackered. Fan blades bent and mangled and the shafts completely collapsed.
I put it down to high mileage , one of those things. Found nothing obvious wrong and it's been ok for the last year
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carolineasb

#66
June 15, 2015, 19:16 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Hubby says it wouldn't necessarily wobble about and it could have just been a bit of the bearing that has come loose  s:( :( s:(
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tricky1138

#67
June 16, 2015, 10:01 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Just getting caught up on this after a weekend away at a stag do!

Well looks like good and bad news there Scotte.

Its always hard to diagnose problems when there are actually 2 different problems. You assume they are related when as you've found out it was just coincidental.

Hope you can manage to get it fixed. Looks like an easy, but expensive fix!   s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
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1979scotte

#68
June 16, 2015, 20:04 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
This radiator as good as any?

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Its the cheapest i could find.
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tomaky

#69
June 16, 2015, 20:16 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
That will do the job  s:) :) s:)
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#70
June 19, 2015, 09:39 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
That's the one I've had for 1.5 years
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1979scotte

#71
June 19, 2015, 13:13 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Ordered.
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StuC

#72
June 19, 2015, 16:13 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Whats going on with the other bits that need replacing?
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1979scotte

#73
June 19, 2015, 20:21 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Awaiting wife approval mainly but also some checking to do about the technicalities
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StuC

#74
June 19, 2015, 22:28 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Good luck with that!  s;-) ;-) s;-)
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