My Woodsport V6 conversion.

[tommyzoom99]

looks great topdownman

will be a ace car once done   s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:  

cheers tommy

[Topdownman]

"Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.".

-Carroll Shelby

Ooops! I couldnt remember who said it so googled it and thats what the 1st post said!

[Topdownman]

Sounds spot on for your requirements then mate!

To me, the only cheap conversion is a DIY 2zz; if you're not doing it yourself then I think the costs become largely similar... if you can afford £5k you can probably stretch to £7k, and really it comes down to what you want as the end product.

If someone said to me "Cost is the same and you get 190bhp - do you prefer it to sing like a V6 or scream like 4 pot?" I'd got for the V6 every time.

Yes, when you are paying someone to do the work then the costs do seem to be fairly similar so I guess the key is getting the right option for you.

Which I hope I have done!

[frootloops]

I'd love the chance to drive one of these to see what they actually drive like. I'd be worried the extra weight may ruin the car, although it's an aluminium block isn't it? How much more does the engine actually weigh?
Anyway it looks to be an interesting project, even if it isn't what I'd do with 9k.

[martin_b]

If someone said to me "Cost is the same and you get 190bhp - do you prefer it to sing like a V6 or scream like 4 pot?" I'd got for the V6 every time.

Amen to that!

[Topdownman]

I understand that the engine is about 20 kg more than the 1ZZ. All the comments I have read have said the weight gain has not been an issue.

My battery will be moved to the froot which would help with weight distribution apart from the fact that this means I lose the spare wheel and its weight!

I may look at moving the tool kit in there as well to move some weight forward to try to compensate a bit.

[frootloops]

Relocation of the battery and a much lighter exhaust system should pretty much take care of it them.
Can the battery be relocated underneath the spare wheel and the alarm moved elsewhere?

[tomaky]

Think it goes to the passenger side of the box, the stock back box will loose you about half of that 20kg alone.

[Topdownman]

Relocation of the battery and a much lighter exhaust system should pretty much take care of it them.
Can the battery be relocated underneath the spare wheel and the alarm moved elsewhere?

There are 3 options I was offered as it needs to be moved because there is no room, battery in bottom of froot so no spare wheel,(I imagine they would have tried to keep the spare at some stage previously?) in the bin behind the driver or on top of the rear subframe. Not keen on the last 2 options personally so an easy decision.

I hope you are right about the exhaust, that would be a bonus!

[MR TWO]

If you only like yours half as much as I like mine, you will still like it more than you can imagine.

There is no weight problem. No handling quirks.

There is stunning torque which is fantastic. It's wonderful to drive. Oh and the sound,..

Congratulations!

[tomaky]

Honestly not only is the stock exhaust massive but it does way a tonne.

[loadswine]

As far as weight is concerned, it really is not an issue. My old v6, the first one done in Europe, used the heavier engine and that was fine, so this lighter lump should really give the best of both worlds.
 As for torque requirements, in everyday driving, it just satisfies like other conversions don't. I have had four turbos, and they had torque, but very different power delivery. I didn't enjoy them as much. The 2zz never really attracted me, due to its lack of torque, but may well be useful on track. Torque not required on a car weighing a ton? Oh yes it is, as it makes a good car feel a whole lot better. Of course, personal preference comes into it, but there is no feeling like wafting through superb country roads, with that superb note just behind you and the promise of instant urge from just pressing the throttle!  s:) s:)

[Jrichards20]

FUCK SAKE! That's settled it. If I wasn't hankering for an MR2 recently I am now. As of October, when my bonus is paid, I'm on the hunt for an Mr2 that I can V6 swap! Does anyone know if woodsport take credit card?  s:) s:)

Anyone fancy an Elise?  s:) s:)

[Joesson]

**** SAKE! That's settled it. If I wasn't hankering for an MR2 recently I am now. As of October, when my bonus is paid, I'm on the hunt for an Mr2 that I can V6 swap! Does anyone know if woodsport take credit card?  s:) s:)

Anyone fancy an Elise?  s:) s:)

That loadswine is so poetic  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

[Jrichards20]

**** SAKE! That's settled it. If I wasn't hankering for an MR2 recently I am now. As of October, when my bonus is paid, I'm on the hunt for an Mr2 that I can V6 swap! Does anyone know if woodsport take credit card?  s:) s:)

Anyone fancy an Elise?  s:) s:)

That loadswine is so poetic  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  I've told the other half its Nigel's fault  s:) s:)

[Bernie]

**** SAKE! That's settled it. If I wasn't hankering for an MR2 recently I am now. As of October, when my bonus is paid, I'm on the hunt for an Mr2 that I can V6 swap! Does anyone know if woodsport take credit card?  s:) s:)

Anyone fancy an Elise?  s:) s:)

Lotus independent where I get my 2 serviced says prices are on the rise !

[TiM3]

Relocation of the battery and a much lighter exhaust system should pretty much take care of it them.
Can the battery be relocated underneath the spare wheel and the alarm moved elsewhere?

It can all be squeezed in but you might need a smaller battery. Alarm relocated to top right of pic.

[nadeemxb]

Paul is in the process of sourcing me an RX300 donor at present.  Really hoping to get things done this calendar year but his waiting times are long.  Kind of glad to hear it though - he deserves the long line of people.  His work is that good!!

Topdownman - that was definitely your car up on the ramps when I went in.  Yours on the right and a black 2 on the left getting a 2GR.  Really looking forward to pics of the finished engine bay on this one.  Colour scheme seems to be what I was looking for too!

and yes - Woodsport do take credit cards!

[Anonymous]

Relocation of the battery and a much lighter exhaust system should pretty much take care of it them.
Can the battery be relocated underneath the spare wheel and the alarm moved elsewhere?

It can all be squeezed in but you might need a smaller battery. Alarm relocated to top right of pic.

Nicely done & very neat. Would a small battery like that be ok to crank a v6?

[TiM3]

Don't know to be honest, they're meant to be more powerful the the equivalent traditional battery. The specs  on the odyssey website tell you what size engine and cold cranking amps etc. there is space probably for the next size up too, you definitely couldn't do it with the stock battery though.

[1979scotte]

To me torque is of the utmost importance.
The V6 conversions provide it in spades from tick over.
The 1mz converted car I was taken for a ride in accelerated like a bat out of hell.
My turbo was probably quicker at the top end but can't compete lower down the Rev range.
Once I've moved house and the Mrs is docile i may well look into this again.

[jonty]

Sounds good chaps!

I drove my 2zz for the first time yesterday on the way to MOT station; only up to 4k rpm as it's got new main/BE bearings, and man is it loud through the firewall. I am missing the cubby boxes and covers at the moment which really isn't helping, but if they don't sufficiently reduce the noise I can see it being rather intrusive when on the cruise... when giving it full beans I bet the 2zz will scream wonderfully and have a huge grin slapped on my face, but a quieter and more tuneful V6 song would definitely go down nicely for the daily commute!

... I never thought I would say this, but I may even invest in some dynamat type stuff for the firewall.....

[Anonymous]

Sounds good chaps!

I drove my 2zz for the first time yesterday on the way to MOT station; only up to 4k rpm as it's got new main/BE bearings, and man is it loud through the firewall. I am missing the cubby boxes and covers at the moment which really isn't helping, but if they don't sufficiently reduce the noise I can see it being rather intrusive when on the cruise... when giving it full beans I bet the 2zz will scream wonderfully and have a huge grin slapped on my face, but a quieter and more tuneful V6 song would definitely go down nicely for the daily commute!

... I never thought I would say this, but I may even invest in some dynamat type stuff for the firewall.....

I'm looking to do the same!

[jonty]

I'm looking to do the same!

I turned 30 this weekend just gone... didn't realize I would feel the effects quite so fast!!

[Anonymous]

I feel your pain lol